The reason they call it a "Modem" rather than a bridge is the less technologically inclined would try to use pairs of bridges to span small bodies of water and run over them with cars.:P
According to one SWB technician: "We call them modems because that's what the users call them, technically it's a DSL-ATM to Ethernet bridge router or "brouter" most people don't know what this is so they refer to it as "modem" or "black box" (in the case of the SpeedStram 5260,5660 modems)"
In the case of Time Warner Cable:"We call them modems because the users call them modems. If we started calling them highspeed routers they would get confused. Ever listen to someone refer to the mouse as "the clicky thing" and when you ask about the mouse they give you a funny look?""
Or... after the TW/AOL merger: "We call them modems because AOL says they're modems and we figure that they MUST be right because they have been spoonfeeding us the internet ever since they created it. "
FYI: The AOL/TW merger and the bridges comments are jokes, the rest are actual fact. I'm going back to bed now.
and they have had converters from every known standard to every other known standard and they're JUST NOW figuring this out?
That's why people can view (read: copy) DVD's with a TV that doesn't support the S-video standard although most if not all DVD players do. Translate S-video to stereo RCA+videousing a box that RadioShack sells( I can't remember the partno..), into a Line-In on a VCR and there ya go! to heck with CSS and etc..
I am detecting someone's mucking with the javascript....
You go to this site http://www.riaa.comand you get the generic error:
HTTP Error 403
403.9 Access Forbidden: Too many users are connected
This error can be caused if the Web server is busy and cannot process your request due to heavy traffic. Please try to connect again later.
Please contact the Web server's administrator if the problem persists.
However..... if you rightclick and go to "View Source" you see the source page for their index.htm like so: (note: code mangled to prevent rendering... Don't want to fsck Slashdot by accident!)
< html > < head > < title >Recording Industry Association of America</title > < meta HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" > <meta content="ISRC, International Standard Recording Code" > <script language="JavaScript" > < !-- hide from JavaScript-challenged browsers function openWindow() {
function popUp(){return}; function popDown(){return};
(damn lameness filter, place an <hr> here)
Just my.02c (Note: by reading this message and the text within you agree not to hold, this user, this user's ISP or slashdot responsible for any of our actions....
Sorry to burst your bubble, PC-104 is designed for embedded systems however the data width is 16 bit much like the ISA slot in older PCs. It is designed for what it is used for, basic bus for I/O controllers, etc. If you are looking for processing power there is a whole slew of embedded PCs that have up to a P-2 266 in them now. This company Advantech does a lot with embedded systems. They're a bit pricey, but they have great hardware.
Why is this a troll? I am legitimately interested in this device's operations under Linux. As such this is a legitimate question. Although I didn't post this question I am considering getting one in my Linux-only shop and since I don't have any windows software in my house this is a significant concern.
Although I do agree with this user's views on somethings, e.g. his disstaisfaction with the (lack of) truetype fonts in X I also think that he isn't exactly right in his findings.
He states that he's no programmer and he doesn't like having the sources to his programs, he doesn't want to have to compile his programs in order to run them. In actuality, getting the sources and compiling is doing your system far better then downloading a huge kludge of packages and figuring out which go where. I don't know Crap about programming yet I know how to compile a program and custom-configure it should I need to.
The./configure script provided with about 95% of all source packages custom tailors the Makefile (the file that the compilers use to actually build the program) to the particular system's needs. If he doesn't have a certain library installed, it will let him know, or in some rare cases it will build that needed library. If he doesn't have some function call then the script will make a workaround, This in itself is far better IMO because it analyzes what your computer really needs rather then shoving a bunch of crap into %systemroot%/system(32)
If he's having to compile his kernel every time he needs to add new hardware, then he isn't doing something correctly. THe kernel has the ability to directly compile drivers into the kernel, or to have them as minor chunks of code called modules. When I compile kernels, i have everything possible as modules, less some of the more signficant hardware that gets compiled straight in. If he's coming from the "educated average user" that knows what's in his box, then I fail to see what the problem is unless he's going at it from a diffrent perspective.
I also agree with the fact that he states that Linux is in force on the server platform, but is lacking on the workstation side. I have several large linux servers and have never had a lick of problems with, Some run X some don't. I think it's kind of ironic that there hasn't been a divergence of distros where Server and Workstation are custom tailored for each application. Does a workstation really, really need sendmail? and I doubt very seriously that a server needs OpenOffice. Right now, it would appear that RedHat has become a server-side standard and that Mandrake has become the client side standard. (don't flame me about distros, I'm only calling it as I see it) I think that other distros are improving well though they haven't had as much exposure then either RH or Mandrake.
I would like to question him as to why he is deciding to use XP? IMO XP is just as bad as windows 95, It may look pretty on the outside but it's as crappy an OS as Win95. If he's really trying to avoid the DRM garbage I would've recommended Win98SE or Win2K. Both have excellent support in hardware and software, are reasonably crash-resistant and have the capability to run games, office stuff, Internet, etc.. I do applaud the fact that he's not using Internet exploiter and Microsoft Outlook as well as the fact that he is more responsible than most of the XP junkies that I know because he has put his computer behind a firewall(linux or otherwise.)
I too have considered rebuilding my desktop computer so that I can play Unreal Tournament and Half-Life again... (insert sound: MONSTER KILL) because the support for OpenGL and games in Linux just isn't there yet.
just my.02
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Ooh.. i can just see the security implications in this one. Imagine what would happen if someone managed to write a malicous c#(or any other language here) script that could read the data as entered and redirect it.. That and.Net as is adds up to one helluva security risk. Pretty soon I will be willing to bet that this new method of "authentication" is going to tie directly to Longhorn and Palladium, and DRM, and all that crap. I sincerely believe that Microsoft is trying to turn every windows computer into a card-swipe-register...
We're sorry, your computing license has expired. Please swipe your card for service
NEWS: Dell, HPaq and Microsoft in a revoloutionary change have started adding card-swipe magnetic readers into the keyboards of their Longhorn enabled computers.
I won't be surprised if I get flamed for this but then again, why would MS be so hot on DRM and all of a sudden Palladium, and now this?
Here at some big fancy business we have 6 servers and about 300 workstations scattered throughout four buildings. We have 70% win2KPro workstations, 8% Windows XP, and the rest are a mix of Win98SE and MACs and the only computers that STILL refuse to talk to the domain controllers is the XP boxes. Even Windows 95 had no problems logging to the domain controllers.
We have contacted Micro$haft and all they tell us is, "It's your network".. Uhh No.. it's your cheap @$$ software!!
Whatcha gonna do when the RIAA comes for you.. heh heh
It sounds like a nice thing but I'd rather prefer a 1,200$ laptop.. (My MP3 player can get on the Internet and play Q3A, what does yours do?)
I think this is a cool idea but this is gonna be really bad if they do get the bluetooth thing going..
.oO(Sound of COPS music)Oo. COP:Do you know why I pulled you over? Driver: No sir COP:Do you know how fast you were going? Driver: Uhh.. 65? Cop: Try 384K/Sec.. You do know that the speed limit in this zone is 256K/Sec? Driver: But Officer! It wasn't me!! Cop: Tell that to the judge.. You have MP3's spewed all over the place.
How will we be able to tell the RIAA police from the Real cops? will they have dark blue cop cars? In Houston the cop cars are sky-blue...
Just my.02c (hope this is funny)
You haven't tried a "custom" install have you?
nineteen servers running RH7.2 and the only one that has sendmail is the MX..
Don't get me wrong, I agree that too many packages is too much, (suse weighing in at 4.5GB install media) but I use the custom installer on all my boxes and have never had the problem with cron needing Sendmail.
and again I agree.. LFS ROCKS!
give me a good ol' compiler and I'll SHOW YOU a distro...:)
I am tired of hearing people bitch about Redhat v. Mandrake v. Suse v. Caldera v. LFS v. whatever...
If you aren't sure of something, download the ISOs burn them to CD, try it out on a box that is not a critical box, and have at! If you like it then great, build a more critical box and install it there. if not, then fdisk the HD and try some other distro! It's not windows for crying out loud so you can try whatever you want!.
Personally, I run RedHat but I like Mandrake because it is a little more user-friendly then RH is but that doesn't mean that I am All-Redhat. It depends on what you're going to do with it..
If you're REALLY tired of all these distros then why not try Linux From Scratch.. (hehe talk about stripped down) http://www.linuxfromscratch.org
I wouldn't be surprised.. after all, it IS just a computer inside a funky box... get enough of these and a load of gig-E nics and a gig-E switch, and a lot of cat-5 cables.. heh heh... BIG @$$ electric bill:)
I think that getting the display pole is pretty schweet, however the "embedded PC" at the cash register is not anything unexpected. I have a pair of SASI terminals that used to belong to a CoastalMart in town. They had a log 16bit ISA card that connected their peripherials to the box as well as a laptop's 1.2GB HDD downsized to 500MB.. (1024,16,63... familiar?) All I had to do was remove the propietary card that contained a bootROM and voila, a perfectly good P200,32mB RAM 4MB ATI video.. These had PCI in them as well.. One's my router and one is my webserver..
If you are a hardware freak, like I am, you are always on the constant lookout for embedded boxes of this sort.. Cash registers are higly sought out after for this reason... After all, why use a suitcase for a router when you have a shoebox available..
I do think that the VNC thing is a good idea, but I think it'd be better that it be a user-initiated program, I don't like the idea of having a constantly running daemon in winDoh!s/Mac/Linux/whatever that gives anyone access to the box. As far as the connectivity software there are a few issues here:
DSL users Here in Tx, SWB DSL users are required to run a program called "Enternet 300" which is a PPPoE driver pack for Windows. I personally can't stand it because it's all javascript. (ever wonder why the Enternetfolder program makes so much clicking? I know how to stop it.)Luckily this PPPoE pack has been integrated into almost every kind of broadband router out there so for most of us there is no need for Enternet300.Linux users are saved by using Roaring Penguin's PPPoE driver for Linux
Power Users> These usere already know how to do this stuff and don't use the CDs in the first place.. the CD's are fishtank fodder.
Newbies these people have a minimal grasp of the internet and of network connectivity and need their hands held while they connect for the first time. AOL is so popular because of the "One Icon Does All"(OIDA) and they are too ignorant to know better. (not intended as flame fodder either)
I don't know how many newbies I've had to almost slap their hand with a ruler to stop them from using AOL when thay have a T-3 at their disposal.
then you get the wonders of the computing community..
The Absoloute idiots, aka "the Cave people" These people NEED to he walked through every little setup and checkbox. These people feel lost when even the word "PPP" is mentioned. They don't know a modem from the microwave and constantly plague CCs with tech support questions.
I think that for the Idiots that the pre-packaged software is a good thing. It comes pre-configured (usually) and is already ready to set-up. They are looking for the OIDA soloution and call in when they can't get it.
I don't think it is important which software is packaged as long as the packaged software matches the person receiving it.
1: The government is proposing building up a list of child porn related sites. (excusing the obvious problems with sites that are NOT child porn but will eventually get slapped with this label) This in itself is admirable. I believe that this will help clean out the wasteland of porno and sick **** that the Internet has become famous for.
2: With this new list they are going to force ISPs to block access to them through the ISP's individual infrastructure, routers, hubs, dialin points, etc.. This means that the routers, etc.. will have to keep track on this (ever-growing) list. Ooh Ooh batman!! it's going to be DonTDns!! That's right ! the DNS that DOESN'T work! the government will implement a DNS-like strategy to dynamically block websites all over the US through posting to a single list! Won't this be fun boys and girls?
3: With the new DonTDNS in effect MS screws up and dumps all of it's DNS "A" records into the blacklist and suddenly all microsoft sites will be BANNED as child porn!! (this is not necessarily a bad thing!)
----- Joking aside. Anyone looking at child porn needs to have a 12 guage head exam. Although I agree that we need to hold up our rights under the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights was also written so that it could be interpreted by the people as the bill progressed in age. There isn't one person that actually thinks that looking at young kids doing the nasty as something that should be legalized? I would like to see someone try to defend WHY child porn should be allowed to exist at all?
OTOH I do not agree that it is the ISP's job to control access. I believe that it is the Hosting service provider (HSP) that should be patrolling their own LAN to tell whether or not material falls within the "child porn" category as most HSPs state in their terms of service.
And people expect what? Orginizations to be honest about what they do? Heck everyone's going to the ad-banner craze now. Thank god doubleclick went to/dev/null and I guess this will too. Everyone's trying to make a buck and they're going to do it regardless what is "right" "moral" or "ethical" I have been using LimeWire ever since it came out and I refuse to upgrade simply because I know that Limewire is starting to take stats on what people search for. If they can cause ads to popup or display within the Limewire program through the Java API that limewire runs in I can only imagine what someone could do with the Jave API anf Limewire itself! If people are worried about their browsers links being hijacked, then use VMware and build a virtural PC inside of your existing OS and ONLY use it for searching for files!
Remember, they CAN'T jack with/learn/save/report anything that YOU DON'T do on that box!
just my.02 (it's my 1st post, be gentle)
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You are correct sir.
:P
The reason they call it a "Modem" rather than a bridge is the less technologically inclined would try to use pairs of bridges to span small bodies of water and run over them with cars.
According to one SWB technician: "We call them modems because that's what the users call them, technically it's a DSL-ATM to Ethernet bridge router or "brouter" most people don't know what this is so they refer to it as "modem" or "black box" (in the case of the SpeedStram 5260,5660 modems)"
In the case of Time Warner Cable:"We call them modems because the users call them modems. If we started calling them highspeed routers they would get confused. Ever listen to someone refer to the mouse as "the clicky thing" and when you ask about the mouse they give you a funny look?""
Or... after the TW/AOL merger: "We call them modems because AOL says they're modems and we figure that they MUST be right because they have been spoonfeeding us the internet ever since they created it. "
FYI: The AOL/TW merger and the bridges comments are jokes, the rest are actual fact. I'm going back to bed now.
and they have had converters from every known standard to every other known standard and they're JUST NOW figuring this out?
That's why people can view (read: copy) DVD's with a TV that doesn't support the S-video standard although most if not all DVD players do. Translate S-video to stereo RCA+videousing a box that RadioShack sells( I can't remember the partno..), into a Line-In on a VCR and there ya go! to heck with CSS and etc..
Sheesh...
I am detecting someone's mucking with the javascript....
/title >
// done hiding -->
.02c (Note: by reading this message and the text within you agree not to hold, this user, this user's ISP or slashdot responsible for any of our actions....
You go to this site http://www.riaa.comand you get the generic error:
HTTP Error 403
403.9 Access Forbidden: Too many users are connected
This error can be caused if the Web server is busy and cannot process your request due to heavy traffic. Please try to connect again later.
Please contact the Web server's administrator if the problem persists.
However..... if you rightclick and go to "View Source" you see the source page for their index.htm like so: (note: code mangled to prevent rendering... Don't want to fsck Slashdot by accident!)
< html >
< head >
< title >Recording Industry Association of America<
< meta HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" >
<meta content="ISRC, International Standard Recording Code" >
<script language="JavaScript" >
< !-- hide from JavaScript-challenged browsers
function openWindow() {
popupWin = window.open('Glossary.cfm', 'glossary', 'scrollbars,width=500,height=300')
}
function openPrintWindow() {
printWin = window.open('Printing.cfm', 'printing', 'scrollbars,width=500,height=300');
}
</script>
<script LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
<!--
NS4 = (document.layers);
IE4 = (document.all);
ver4 = (NS4 || IE4);
isBlueberry = (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("Mac") != -1);
isPC = (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("Win") != -1);
isCool = (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("X11") != -1);
isMenu = (NS4 || (IE4 && !isBlueberry));
function popUp(){return};
function popDown(){return};
(damn lameness filter, place an <hr> here)
Just my
Sorry to burst your bubble, PC-104 is designed for embedded systems however the data width is 16 bit much like the ISA slot in older PCs. It is designed for what it is used for, basic bus for I/O controllers, etc. If you are looking for processing power there is a whole slew of embedded PCs that have up to a P-2 266 in them now. This company Advantech
does a lot with embedded systems. They're a bit pricey, but they have great hardware.
Why is this a troll? I am legitimately interested in this device's operations under Linux. As such this is a legitimate question. Although I didn't post this question I am considering getting one in my Linux-only shop and since I don't have any windows software in my house this is a significant concern.
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Although I do agree with this user's views on somethings, e.g. his disstaisfaction with the (lack of) truetype fonts in X I also think that he isn't exactly right in his findings.
./configure script provided with about 95% of all source packages custom tailors the Makefile (the file that the compilers use to actually build the program) to the particular system's needs. If he doesn't have a certain library installed, it will let him know, or in some rare cases it will build that needed library. If he doesn't have some function call then the script will make a workaround, This in itself is far better IMO because it analyzes what your computer really needs rather then shoving a bunch of crap into %systemroot%/system(32)
.02
He states that he's no programmer and he doesn't like having the sources to his programs, he doesn't want to have to compile his programs in order to run them. In actuality, getting the sources and compiling is doing your system far better then downloading a huge kludge of packages and figuring out which go where. I don't know Crap about programming yet I know how to compile a program and custom-configure it should I need to.
The
If he's having to compile his kernel every time he needs to add new hardware, then he isn't doing something correctly. THe kernel has the ability to directly compile drivers into the kernel, or to have them as minor chunks of code called modules. When I compile kernels, i have everything possible as modules, less some of the more signficant hardware that gets compiled straight in. If he's coming from the "educated average user" that knows what's in his box, then I fail to see what the problem is unless he's going at it from a diffrent perspective.
I also agree with the fact that he states that Linux is in force on the server platform, but is lacking on the workstation side. I have several large linux servers and have never had a lick of problems with, Some run X some don't. I think it's kind of ironic that there hasn't been a divergence of distros where Server and Workstation are custom tailored for each application. Does a workstation really, really need sendmail? and I doubt very seriously that a server needs OpenOffice. Right now, it would appear that RedHat has become a server-side standard and that Mandrake has become the client side standard. (don't flame me about distros, I'm only calling it as I see it) I think that other distros are improving well though they haven't had as much exposure then either RH or Mandrake.
I would like to question him as to why he is deciding to use XP? IMO XP is just as bad as windows 95, It may look pretty on the outside but it's as crappy an OS as Win95. If he's really trying to avoid the DRM garbage I would've recommended Win98SE or Win2K. Both have excellent support in hardware and software, are reasonably crash-resistant and have the capability to run games, office stuff, Internet, etc.. I do applaud the fact that he's not using Internet exploiter and Microsoft Outlook as well as the fact that he is more responsible than most of the XP junkies that I know because he has put his computer behind a firewall(linux or otherwise.)
I too have considered rebuilding my desktop computer so that I can play Unreal Tournament and Half-Life again... (insert sound: MONSTER KILL) because the support for OpenGL and games in Linux just isn't there yet.
just my
Ooh.. i can just see the security implications in this one. Imagine what would happen if someone managed to write a malicous c#(or any other language here) script that could read the data as entered and redirect it.. That and .Net as is adds up to one helluva security risk. Pretty soon I will be willing to bet that this new method of "authentication" is going to tie directly to Longhorn and Palladium, and DRM, and all that crap. I sincerely believe that Microsoft is trying to turn every windows computer into a card-swipe-register...
We're sorry, your computing license has expired. Please swipe your card for service
NEWS: Dell, HPaq and Microsoft in a revoloutionary change have started adding card-swipe magnetic readers into the keyboards of their Longhorn enabled computers.
I won't be surprised if I get flamed for this but then again, why would MS be so hot on DRM and all of a sudden Palladium, and now this?
Here at some big fancy business we have 6 servers and about 300 workstations scattered throughout four buildings. We have 70% win2KPro workstations, 8% Windows XP, and the rest are a mix of Win98SE and MACs and the only computers that STILL refuse to talk to the domain controllers is the XP boxes. Even Windows 95 had no problems logging to the domain controllers.
/rant .03c (prices go up)
We have contacted Micro$haft and all they tell us is, "It's your network".. Uhh No.. it's your cheap @$$ software!!
Just my
Whatcha gonna do when the RIAA comes for you.. heh heh
.oO(Sound of COPS music)Oo.
.02c (hope this is funny)
It sounds like a nice thing but I'd rather prefer a 1,200$ laptop.. (My MP3 player can get on the Internet and play Q3A, what does yours do?) I think this is a cool idea but this is gonna be really bad if they do get the bluetooth thing going..
COP:Do you know why I pulled you over?
Driver: No sir
COP:Do you know how fast you were going?
Driver: Uhh.. 65?
Cop: Try 384K/Sec.. You do know that the speed limit in this zone is 256K/Sec?
Driver: But Officer! It wasn't me!!
Cop: Tell that to the judge.. You have MP3's spewed all over the place.
How will we be able to tell the RIAA police from the Real cops? will they have dark blue cop cars? In Houston the cop cars are sky-blue... Just my
You haven't tried a "custom" install have you? nineteen servers running RH7.2 and the only one that has sendmail is the MX.. Don't get me wrong, I agree that too many packages is too much, (suse weighing in at 4.5GB install media) but I use the custom installer on all my boxes and have never had the problem with cron needing Sendmail. and again I agree.. LFS ROCKS! give me a good ol' compiler and I'll SHOW YOU a distro... :)
I am tired of hearing people bitch about Redhat v. Mandrake v. Suse v. Caldera v. LFS v. whatever...
If you aren't sure of something, download the ISOs burn them to CD, try it out on a box that is not a critical box, and have at! If you like it then great, build a more critical box and install it there. if not, then fdisk the HD and try some other distro! It's not windows for crying out loud so you can try whatever you want!.
Personally, I run RedHat but I like Mandrake because it is a little more user-friendly then RH is but that doesn't mean that I am All-Redhat. It depends on what you're going to do with it..
If you're REALLY tired of all these distros then why not try Linux From Scratch.. (hehe talk about stripped down) http://www.linuxfromscratch.org
I wouldn't be surprised.. after all, it IS just a computer inside a funky box... get enough of these and a load of gig-E nics and a gig-E switch, and a lot of cat-5 cables.. heh heh... BIG @$$ electric bill :)
man i gotta lay off the fscking coffee....
I think that getting the display pole is pretty schweet, however the "embedded PC" at the cash register is not anything unexpected. I have a pair of SASI terminals that used to belong to a CoastalMart in town. They had a log 16bit ISA card that connected their peripherials to the box as well as a laptop's 1.2GB HDD downsized to 500MB.. (1024,16,63... familiar?) All I had to do was remove the propietary card that contained a bootROM and voila, a perfectly good P200,32mB RAM 4MB ATI video.. These had PCI in them as well.. One's my router and one is my webserver.. If you are a hardware freak, like I am, you are always on the constant lookout for embedded boxes of this sort.. Cash registers are higly sought out after for this reason... After all, why use a suitcase for a router when you have a shoebox available..
Good catch on the hardware!!
I do think that the VNC thing is a good idea, but I think it'd be better that it be a user-initiated program, I don't like the idea of having a constantly running daemon in winDoh!s/Mac/Linux/whatever that gives anyone access to the box. As far as the connectivity software there are a few issues here:
.02c Sorry it's so long
DSL users Here in Tx, SWB DSL users are required to run a program called "Enternet 300" which is a PPPoE driver pack for Windows. I personally can't stand it because it's all javascript. (ever wonder why the Enternetfolder program makes so much clicking? I know how to stop it.)Luckily this PPPoE pack has been integrated into almost every kind of broadband router out there so for most of us there is no need for Enternet300.Linux users are saved by using Roaring Penguin's PPPoE driver for Linux
Power Users> These usere already know how to do this stuff and don't use the CDs in the first place.. the CD's are fishtank fodder.
Newbies these people have a minimal grasp of the internet and of network connectivity and need their hands held while they connect for the first time. AOL is so popular because of the "One Icon Does All"(OIDA) and they are too ignorant to know better. (not intended as flame fodder either)
I don't know how many newbies I've had to almost slap their hand with a ruler to stop them from using AOL when thay have a T-3 at their disposal.
then you get the wonders of the computing community..
The Absoloute idiots, aka "the Cave people" These people NEED to he walked through every little setup and checkbox. These people feel lost when even the word "PPP" is mentioned. They don't know a modem from the microwave and constantly plague CCs with tech support questions.
I think that for the Idiots that the pre-packaged software is a good thing. It comes pre-configured (usually) and is already ready to set-up. They are looking for the OIDA soloution and call in when they can't get it.
I don't think it is important which software is packaged as long as the packaged software matches the person receiving it.
Just my
Let's analyze this shall we?
1: The government is proposing building up a list of child porn related sites. (excusing the obvious problems with sites that are NOT child porn but will eventually get slapped with this label) This in itself is admirable. I believe that this will help clean out the wasteland of porno and sick **** that the Internet has become famous for.
2: With this new list they are going to force ISPs to block access to them through the ISP's individual infrastructure, routers, hubs, dialin points, etc.. This means that the routers, etc.. will have to keep track on this (ever-growing) list. Ooh Ooh batman!! it's going to be DonTDns!! That's right ! the DNS that DOESN'T work! the government will implement a DNS-like strategy to dynamically block websites all over the US through posting to a single list! Won't this be fun boys and girls?
3: With the new DonTDNS in effect MS screws up and dumps all of it's DNS "A" records into the blacklist and suddenly all microsoft sites will be BANNED as child porn!! (this is not necessarily a bad thing!)
-----
Joking aside. Anyone looking at child porn needs to have a 12 guage head exam. Although I agree that we need to hold up our rights under the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights was also written so that it could be interpreted by the people as the bill progressed in age. There isn't one person that actually thinks that looking at young kids doing the nasty as something that should be legalized? I would like to see someone try to defend WHY child porn should be allowed to exist at all?
OTOH I do not agree that it is the ISP's job to control access. I believe that it is the Hosting service provider (HSP) that should be patrolling their own LAN to tell whether or not material falls within the "child porn" category as most HSPs state in their terms of service.
ok
And people expect what? Orginizations to be honest about what they do? Heck everyone's going to the ad-banner craze now. Thank god doubleclick went to /dev/null and I guess this will too. Everyone's trying to make a buck and they're going to do it regardless what is "right" "moral" or "ethical" I have been using LimeWire ever since it came out and I refuse to upgrade simply because I know that Limewire is starting to take stats on what people search for. If they can cause ads to popup or display within the Limewire program through the Java API that limewire runs in I can only imagine what someone could do with the Jave API anf Limewire itself! If people are worried about their browsers links being hijacked, then use VMware and build a virtural PC inside of your existing OS and ONLY use it for searching for files!
Remember, they CAN'T jack with/learn/save/report anything that YOU DON'T do on that box!
just my .02 (it's my 1st post, be gentle)