I got given on the tour in the UK some cds. The cds were the final beta for visual studio.net 2k3.
It doesn't come with serial numbers for obvious reasons. Now, the license with *-this-* is on the cd.
In regard to the free copies of Wndows XP Pro and also Visual Studio.NET. These come with 'Do not lend or make illegal copies of this software' on the top. It also has a unique serial number (for the cd) on the top.
All the licensing agreements come up when you actually install the software. Since you didn't buy it, you don't need to accept the license to put the cd in your drive or open it. You had to fulfill the requirements to be given the cd.
What really pisses me off is that people like me, i.e. students who can't afford to buy operating systems have huge problems because of the likes of you lot. If I need to run a piece of software for my PC, it WILL be for Windows. So, I'll have to buy Windows just to get along. (don't even try to give me crap about WINE. You know, as I know, that Visual Studio could only run under some supercomputer for WINE.) That's a fuck load of money for Windows. Do you want to pay for my copy of Windows (if you do, email me)???
Since you don't, stop criticising Microsoft. They're trying to do something positive to help people. When you're doing something so positive, and really incredibly helpful respond to this.
You criticise Microsoft for trying to actually help.
Get a life. Stop being so small minded, and open your eyes.
To summarise:
These pieces of software do come with licenses.
You have to agree to them to install.
Intersting Thought:
Perhaps Microsoft should sue the guy for being a prat and getting his facts wrong. Or even better, remove his license for all microsoft stuff.
Using a traceroute, you can normally give a good approximation of whereabouts people live anyway. Surely, if it says that I live in New York, that is vague enough to still protect your privacy. Perhaps a proportion of your zip code could be used? I know that that could work in Britain, jsut providing say the first two letters and first number fo your postcode.
That needs a very late version of java. He said that nothing was to be installed. I may be wrong, but I thought that you needed the Sun JVM for Web Start?
I for one am sick of half-hearted, poorly researched , and blatently inaccurate news articles. I read articles from all over the place, including large newspapers and they seem to just get the wrong end of the stick. If the author had actually researched the articles, it would be clear:
a) PowerMacs came out at about the Internet boom.
b) The PowerMacs of this era were stable. (the performas were not as stable unfortunately)
c) Word versions >6 etc work fine on all PowerMacs.
d) Which latest software is he referring to exactly?
e) has the author actually tried the latest updates, or did he just try the earlier ones that perhaps came with his PowerMac?
f) Which other sales does Dell rely on? I only thought it sold hardware? If someone can enlighten me (I really can't be bothered to check, since this is what the author did!) then plesae do so.
g) Well done for remembering the sales figures etc. They could well be wrong though since you didn't actually describe your sources.
blah. Canada.com, get some decent writers.
On a side note: I can see what the author means about Apple going down the pan. Before they do, can they sell the interface or something please? Thanks;)
When was this vulnerability discovered? People are always comparing Microsoft to OpenSource in the speed of the correction of security flaws. I was wondering if anyone knew, so that I could see if Microsoft is *-that-* bad, or if they're getting better.
I think that you're right. The ads were crap. Period.
Annoying music, and not really typical people. Come on! A LAN Administrator, a Computer & Business Manager, and an illustrator. Most illustrators are on the Mac already, and most computer-related people use pcs (not necessarily windows).
As one person said, they should say why it is better, and well, none of them really got it accross.
Personally, I'd advise Apple to keep their products up-to-date, instead of wasting money on poor adverts. The iTunes and the iMac adverts were on a level above this.
In the UK, at least, there are little pieces of text which say 'E&OE.', which means that even if the advert is wrong, they don't have to sell it at that price. As soon as you agree a price, then it is (afaik) a legally binding contract. For this reason, if they advertise something at a price, they don't necessarly have to honour the price, although most bigger companies will.
I was wondering about what would happen if they took the money from your bank account, and then told you that the product was now unavailable for resale. Then, they gave the money back (i.e. refund).I would have thought that this was breach of contract, and hence you could take legal action. However, is legal action really worth it? Legal expenses alone will probably out-weigh the money you might gain.
I would have thought that the copany could refuse to sell the products though. (esp. in UK). I'm not confident with US law though. Ny experts? (I'm sure most US magazines will tell you your rights)
I'm sure that you can recode the back button to do something else. Anyone know anything further about this? Then you could just reporgram the back button for each page to go to the inbox.
Personally I feel that they should provide all the software that newbies need. That includes, Internet Explorer, Netscape, ICQ, a load of chat programs, a couple of FTP programs, VNC if the ISP feels up-to-it, and a load of other utilities that you might use. (web page design?)
Then, to cater for more users, you provide Mac versions, and Linux versions. And, for more expert users you grab all the bigger downloads (5 meg upwards, say) of all the latest good software that people commonly download anyway. (Then you don't get as much bandwidth usage)
As for the techies, well let'f face it - give them the ips/ports/dns etc. All the technical info about the system.
On a side note, most ISPs give out only one cd, which for any of the later versions of main-stream linux, would be far too small.
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I got given on the tour in the UK some cds. The cds were the final beta for visual studio .net 2k3.
It doesn't come with serial numbers for obvious reasons. Now, the license with *-this-* is on the cd.
In regard to the free copies of Wndows XP Pro and also Visual Studio .NET. These come with 'Do not lend or make illegal copies of this software' on the top. It also has a unique serial number (for the cd) on the top.
All the licensing agreements come up when you actually install the software. Since you didn't buy it, you don't need to accept the license to put the cd in your drive or open it. You had to fulfill the requirements to be given the cd.
What really pisses me off is that people like me, i.e. students who can't afford to buy operating systems have huge problems because of the likes of you lot. If I need to run a piece of software for my PC, it WILL be for Windows. So, I'll have to buy Windows just to get along. (don't even try to give me crap about WINE. You know, as I know, that Visual Studio could only run under some supercomputer for WINE.) That's a fuck load of money for Windows. Do you want to pay for my copy of Windows (if you do, email me)???
Since you don't, stop criticising Microsoft. They're trying to do something positive to help people. When you're doing something so positive, and really incredibly helpful respond to this.
You criticise Microsoft for trying to actually help.
Get a life. Stop being so small minded, and open your eyes.
To summarise:
These pieces of software do come with licenses.
You have to agree to them to install.
Intersting Thought:
Perhaps Microsoft should sue the guy for being a prat and getting his facts wrong. Or even better, remove his license for all microsoft stuff.
This isn't an April fools!
Using a traceroute, you can normally give a good approximation of whereabouts people live anyway. Surely, if it says that I live in New York, that is vague enough to still protect your privacy. Perhaps a proportion of your zip code could be used? I know that that could work in Britain, jsut providing say the first two letters and first number fo your postcode.
That needs a very late version of java. He said that nothing was to be installed. I may be wrong, but I thought that you needed the Sun JVM for Web Start?
I for one am sick of half-hearted, poorly researched , and blatently inaccurate news articles. I read articles from all over the place, including large newspapers and they seem to just get the wrong end of the stick. If the author had actually researched the articles, it would be clear: a) PowerMacs came out at about the Internet boom. b) The PowerMacs of this era were stable. (the performas were not as stable unfortunately) c) Word versions >6 etc work fine on all PowerMacs. d) Which latest software is he referring to exactly? e) has the author actually tried the latest updates, or did he just try the earlier ones that perhaps came with his PowerMac? f) Which other sales does Dell rely on? I only thought it sold hardware? If someone can enlighten me (I really can't be bothered to check, since this is what the author did!) then plesae do so. g) Well done for remembering the sales figures etc. They could well be wrong though since you didn't actually describe your sources. blah. Canada.com, get some decent writers. On a side note: I can see what the author means about Apple going down the pan. Before they do, can they sell the interface or something please? Thanks ;)
FYI, the link is without the space
I'm intrigued with the suggestion of doing the L5 thing. Web site, url?? Cheers Ed
When was this vulnerability discovered? People are always comparing Microsoft to OpenSource in the speed of the correction of security flaws. I was wondering if anyone knew, so that I could see if Microsoft is *-that-* bad, or if they're getting better.
I think that you're right. The ads were crap. Period. Annoying music, and not really typical people. Come on! A LAN Administrator, a Computer & Business Manager, and an illustrator. Most illustrators are on the Mac already, and most computer-related people use pcs (not necessarily windows). As one person said, they should say why it is better, and well, none of them really got it accross. Personally, I'd advise Apple to keep their products up-to-date, instead of wasting money on poor adverts. The iTunes and the iMac adverts were on a level above this.
In the UK, at least, there are little pieces of text which say 'E&OE.', which means that even if the advert is wrong, they don't have to sell it at that price. As soon as you agree a price, then it is (afaik) a legally binding contract. For this reason, if they advertise something at a price, they don't necessarly have to honour the price, although most bigger companies will. I was wondering about what would happen if they took the money from your bank account, and then told you that the product was now unavailable for resale. Then, they gave the money back (i.e. refund).I would have thought that this was breach of contract, and hence you could take legal action. However, is legal action really worth it? Legal expenses alone will probably out-weigh the money you might gain. I would have thought that the copany could refuse to sell the products though. (esp. in UK). I'm not confident with US law though. Ny experts? (I'm sure most US magazines will tell you your rights)
I'm sure that you can recode the back button to do something else. Anyone know anything further about this? Then you could just reporgram the back button for each page to go to the inbox.
Personally I feel that they should provide all the software that newbies need. That includes, Internet Explorer, Netscape, ICQ, a load of chat programs, a couple of FTP programs, VNC if the ISP feels up-to-it, and a load of other utilities that you might use. (web page design?)
Then, to cater for more users, you provide Mac versions, and Linux versions. And, for more expert users you grab all the bigger downloads (5 meg upwards, say) of all the latest good software that people commonly download anyway. (Then you don't get as much bandwidth usage)
As for the techies, well let'f face it - give them the ips/ports/dns etc. All the technical info about the system.
On a side note, most ISPs give out only one cd, which for any of the later versions of main-stream linux, would be far too small.