This is true, but the consequences of it being found out would be *tremendous*... they stick it in the Windows kernel and someone finds out, theoretically anyway the entire kernel would become open source. Same with office, etc. Suddenly MS has lost half its market 'cause people would legally spread it for free.
Even with something like anticompetitive practices, the penalty is not set down, and as we've seen almost none was actually applied. The GPL mandates the (what MS would see are) penalties to be handed out, and there's no negoiating. You used the code? It's open source. No "well, what do you deserve" thinking by the judge.
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Just because you don't hit them doesn't mean others won't... Do you think everyone traverses the exact same 6 inch wide lanes with cars that are the exact same width?
Also, it could be that minor damages in untraveled areas could spread.
>>It's hard enough to learn even a simple language like Spanish. It must be a real bitch to learn English as a second language. I'm glad it's my first.
I studied Spanish (as well?) and often wondered what it would be like trying to learn English. Like on one hand verb forms are often really screwy and spelling's messed up, but on the other hand you don't have to worry about whether this word is masculine or feminine and whether the adjuctive takes the same form as the subject and stuff like that. (Normally remembering el or la isn't too hard, but the pathological cases like el pregunta and la mano drove me absolutely insane.) I hear German has a neutral gender for some nouns...
This is because before a couple centuries ago, there was little sense of a word having a "correct" spelling; only after dictionaries came into wide use in the 1700s and 1800s did the notion that a word has (usually) one particular spelling come into common thought.
The readers that are in vending machines and all other devices that are open to the general public (as opposed to, say, at a checkout counter in a store) hold the card while it is in use so you *can't* remove it early.
To be fair, I have suspicions that one particular reader in a vending machine in my dorm somehow screwed things up because it seemed to have problems after I attempted to use it on several of the many occasions that the reader malfunctioned. Normally this wouldn'd bother me, but it also affected it's performance (if in fact that's the cause) in other machines as well.
Penn State started out as an ag school, and still has a very big (at least by ag school standards) program, helped by the fact that it owns an unbelieveable amount of land around central PA. I don't know what I'd classify it as though actually, but if I had to I'd say it's biggest area would be engineering anymore.
I never claimed it made it correct; I merely said it was interesting that the US spelling may predate the British spelling. However, what it does (or should anyway) stop is people from yelling at the US for "changing" spellings that were in place before the Americas were even discovered by Europeans. The proper complaint is that we didn't keep up with them.:-p
I don't like that idea... I have a chip like that on my PSU ID and despite being only about a year old it sporadically decides not to work. I wouldn't want to carry around a couple hundred bucks on one.
>>Webster started changing shit just cause he could.
Keep in mind that I've looked up several words in the OED over the course of this discussion, and en *every case* the current US spelling was around earlier than Webster. Case in point: "flavor" dates to no later than 1641, and pollibly as early as the 1300s, though I doubt my reading of the entry as far as that in concerned (however, if correct, "flavor" predates "flavour"). Same goes with center, color, and favor.
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If you 506 million is right, with 260} of them in the US, that still gives us a majority, albeit not a large one.
The source there is the American Heritage Dictionary as someone else pointed out. A look at the OED reveals something very interesting: the spelling flavor may be older than flavour. If I read the entry and help sections right, "flavor" was introduced in the 14th century while "flavour" wasn't around until the 15th.
Here are the relavent lines from the entry:
"Forms: . 4- flavor, 5 Sc. flewoure, 5- flavour. . 6 Sc. fleoure, fleure, fleowre, fleware, -ere, 8 Sc. flaur."
and the help file:
"Variant forms are the alternative spellings in which a word has been found over the centuries. Centuries are given in abbreviated form in the Second Edition. For instance, 4-8 should be read as 14th to 18th centuries, and 1 means before 1100 AD."
The above is the best guess as to what the numbers mean in the entry itself, but that would mean that the other forms which look like Old English would be more recent. Also, in the quotations given "flavour" precedes "flavor" in time. So I'm confused.
Anyway, the entry for "favour, favor" says "As in other words with the same ending, the spelling with -our is preferred in the British Isles, while in the U.S. -or is more common."
Instrument choices can turn into religious wars the likes of Vi vs. Emacs or Debian vs. Gentoo...
Af course, it's all pointless; Emacs, cellos, and either Gentoo or Debian are the proper choices;-)
On a more serious note (no pun intended), I kinda feel sorry for violists sometimes 'cause it seems like they are often cut out of the good parts because they fall kinda overlapping the cello and violin ranges. Like most accompaniment stuff violas can play can be played on either a violin or cello (assuming, especially in the latter case a good player). Hence it seems that a lot of composers give the melody and such to one of them.
It's kinda sad; we had an amazing violist at my high school who gave an outstanding performance of the Walton concerto and it sounded better than a good number of violinists and cellists I've heard real recording from. He's now continuing his studies at Juliard, though very slowly due to a very bad case of tendonitis he got late senior year. More composers should highlight the viola...
I know, but I have yet to use an open source program with it. (I have yet to try Eclipse.)
>>One more thing, the Visual C++ compiler is utter crap. As late as one year ago it wasn't even ISO compliant (bet it still isn't)
As of today, there is only *1* compiler that claims to be fully compliant, and that's only with one particular library. (That's Comeau C++ and the Dinkumware library if you're curious.) The new release of VC moves it much closer to compliance with partial template specialization.
I agree. Show me the OS software that has the completion features like VS does (type cout. and it pops up the members) and the function argument lists (after you type cout.ignore( it shows the overloads with argument names and types).
Flame me for not being a "real programmer" if you'd like, but I very much like being able to type less and make sure that what I am doing is what I think and not have to wait until compile time to discover I swapped 2 arguments or typed ignoer instead of ignore.
If you had drowned in one of said pools do you think that the owners should have been held responsible?
Whether people do it or not is not the issue... People go out and murder and rob and vandalize knowing it's illegal. There are even plenty of laws that most people could easily and honestly state that they didn't know they were breaking. Are they still responsible for it? You bet...
>>Besides, you would be absolutely amazed at what a 7 year old can do
If they're 7, they should know not to enter a fenced in area where they are not allowed. I know 5 year olds who have known stuff like that for some time...
I agree in that position the owner should be held partially responsible, though to what degree I'm not sure and can't say without knowing of the full situation. (Since it was under construction)
I understand the problems with the anecdotal evidence thing, but there are WAY too many cases of misplaced blame by judges and juries.
>>You are hung up on this "trespassing" notion. Young kids can't trespass because they lack the requisite intent. Therefore, you folks are seeking a substitute by which the intent can be derived through the child by the parent's actions or inactions. Sorry, but the legal status of the child and the remedies available to the child do not depend upon the parent's actions or inactions. The child (rightly so) has a separate and independent legal status under the law.
What if there's a fence? I suspect any kid who is big enough and strong enough to jump a decent fence would also know that they aren't supposed to.
>>(and any deck with no railings fails to meet resonable guidelines)
What? Where'd this deck thing come from? The original poster asked about jumping a fence... whether there is one or not aroung the coaster, I don't know. But if there's a decent fence, and someone jumps it and hurts themself on the inside, the owner should NOT be held responsible. Period. Similarily, if, as I suggested earlier, the owner locks up the cart, and someone still manages to hurt themself, the owner should not be held responsible.
The poster you replied to is not saying that parents are the sole people that can are responsible for all accidents, rather that in many cases people are held responsible for things that they absolutely shouldn't be.
(For instance, the post in another branch commenting on the/sucessful/ lawsuit by a robber who brok in somewhere, and while he was breading and entering hurt himself on a knife and sued the owner. It's despicible that this case was even tried let alone reached the decision that it did.)
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This is true, but the consequences of it being found out would be *tremendous*... they stick it in the Windows kernel and someone finds out, theoretically anyway the entire kernel would become open source. Same with office, etc. Suddenly MS has lost half its market 'cause people would legally spread it for free.
Even with something like anticompetitive practices, the penalty is not set down, and as we've seen almost none was actually applied. The GPL mandates the (what MS would see are) penalties to be handed out, and there's no negoiating. You used the code? It's open source. No "well, what do you deserve" thinking by the judge.
Just because you don't hit them doesn't mean others won't... Do you think everyone traverses the exact same 6 inch wide lanes with cars that are the exact same width?
Also, it could be that minor damages in untraveled areas could spread.
Of course, the English units of measure (foot, mile, oz.), was created by the English, who use the metric system.
(Actually this is why I use the term "Imperial system" rather than "English system")
That misses the potholes you don't run over directly with your wheels.
>>It's hard enough to learn even a simple language like Spanish. It must be a real bitch to learn English as a second language. I'm glad it's my first.
I studied Spanish (as well?) and often wondered what it would be like trying to learn English. Like on one hand verb forms are often really screwy and spelling's messed up, but on the other hand you don't have to worry about whether this word is masculine or feminine and whether the adjuctive takes the same form as the subject and stuff like that. (Normally remembering el or la isn't too hard, but the pathological cases like el pregunta and la mano drove me absolutely insane.) I hear German has a neutral gender for some nouns...
This is because before a couple centuries ago, there was little sense of a word having a "correct" spelling; only after dictionaries came into wide use in the 1700s and 1800s did the notion that a word has (usually) one particular spelling come into common thought.
The readers that are in vending machines and all other devices that are open to the general public (as opposed to, say, at a checkout counter in a store) hold the card while it is in use so you *can't* remove it early.
To be fair, I have suspicions that one particular reader in a vending machine in my dorm somehow screwed things up because it seemed to have problems after I attempted to use it on several of the many occasions that the reader malfunctioned. Normally this wouldn'd bother me, but it also affected it's performance (if in fact that's the cause) in other machines as well.
Penn State started out as an ag school, and still has a very big (at least by ag school standards) program, helped by the fact that it owns an unbelieveable amount of land around central PA. I don't know what I'd classify it as though actually, but if I had to I'd say it's biggest area would be engineering anymore.
I never claimed it made it correct; I merely said it was interesting that the US spelling may predate the British spelling. However, what it does (or should anyway) stop is people from yelling at the US for "changing" spellings that were in place before the Americas were even discovered by Europeans. The proper complaint is that we didn't keep up with them. :-p
I don't like that idea... I have a chip like that on my PSU ID and despite being only about a year old it sporadically decides not to work. I wouldn't want to carry around a couple hundred bucks on one.
>>Webster started changing shit just cause he could.
Keep in mind that I've looked up several words in the OED over the course of this discussion, and en *every case* the current US spelling was around earlier than Webster. Case in point: "flavor" dates to no later than 1641, and pollibly as early as the 1300s, though I doubt my reading of the entry as far as that in concerned (however, if correct, "flavor" predates "flavour"). Same goes with center, color, and favor.
If you 506 million is right, with 260} of them in the US, that still gives us a majority, albeit not a large one.
The source there is the American Heritage Dictionary as someone else pointed out. A look at the OED reveals something very interesting: the spelling flavor may be older than flavour. If I read the entry and help sections right, "flavor" was introduced in the 14th century while "flavour" wasn't around until the 15th.
Here are the relavent lines from the entry:
"Forms: . 4- flavor, 5 Sc. flewoure, 5- flavour. . 6 Sc. fleoure, fleure, fleowre, fleware, -ere, 8 Sc. flaur."
and the help file:
"Variant forms are the alternative spellings in which a word has been found over the centuries. Centuries are given in abbreviated form in the Second Edition. For instance, 4-8 should be read as 14th to 18th centuries, and 1 means before 1100 AD."
The above is the best guess as to what the numbers mean in the entry itself, but that would mean that the other forms which look like Old English would be more recent. Also, in the quotations given "flavour" precedes "flavor" in time. So I'm confused.
Anyway, the entry for "favour, favor" says "As in other words with the same ending, the spelling with -our is preferred in the British Isles, while in the U.S. -or is more common."
Which one? Dictionary.com? Merriam-Webster? The American Heritage? The Oxford English Dictionary? I can't find it.
Why is this legal? It seems to my NAL mind that it violates the first sale doctrine...
>>I'm partial to the viola myself...
;-)
Instrument choices can turn into religious wars the likes of Vi vs. Emacs or Debian vs. Gentoo...
Af course, it's all pointless; Emacs, cellos, and either Gentoo or Debian are the proper choices
On a more serious note (no pun intended), I kinda feel sorry for violists sometimes 'cause it seems like they are often cut out of the good parts because they fall kinda overlapping the cello and violin ranges. Like most accompaniment stuff violas can play can be played on either a violin or cello (assuming, especially in the latter case a good player). Hence it seems that a lot of composers give the melody and such to one of them.
It's kinda sad; we had an amazing violist at my high school who gave an outstanding performance of the Walton concerto and it sounded better than a good number of violinists and cellists I've heard real recording from. He's now continuing his studies at Juliard, though very slowly due to a very bad case of tendonitis he got late senior year. More composers should highlight the viola...
THE funniest court document ever read. "Literally millions of Fucking records have been sold..."
>>Autocompletion is a feature in lots of IDEs.
I know, but I have yet to use an open source program with it. (I have yet to try Eclipse.)
>>One more thing, the Visual C++ compiler is utter crap. As late as one year ago it wasn't even ISO compliant (bet it still isn't)
As of today, there is only *1* compiler that claims to be fully compliant, and that's only with one particular library. (That's Comeau C++ and the Dinkumware library if you're curious.) The new release of VC moves it much closer to compliance with partial template specialization.
I agree. Show me the OS software that has the completion features like VS does (type cout. and it pops up the members) and the function argument lists (after you type cout.ignore( it shows the overloads with argument names and types).
Flame me for not being a "real programmer" if you'd like, but I very much like being able to type less and make sure that what I am doing is what I think and not have to wait until compile time to discover I swapped 2 arguments or typed ignoer instead of ignore.
If you had drowned in one of said pools do you think that the owners should have been held responsible?
Whether people do it or not is not the issue... People go out and murder and rob and vandalize knowing it's illegal. There are even plenty of laws that most people could easily and honestly state that they didn't know they were breaking. Are they still responsible for it? You bet...
>>Besides, you would be absolutely amazed at what a 7 year old can do
If they're 7, they should know not to enter a fenced in area where they are not allowed. I know 5 year olds who have known stuff like that for some time...
>>Read the parent post from A.C.
Hmmm, somehow I missed that...
I agree in that position the owner should be held partially responsible, though to what degree I'm not sure and can't say without knowing of the full situation. (Since it was under construction)
I understand the problems with the anecdotal evidence thing, but there are WAY too many cases of misplaced blame by judges and juries.
>>You are hung up on this "trespassing" notion. Young kids can't trespass because they lack the requisite intent. Therefore, you folks are seeking a substitute by which the intent can be derived through the child by the parent's actions or inactions. Sorry, but the legal status of the child and the remedies available to the child do not depend upon the parent's actions or inactions. The child (rightly so) has a separate and independent legal status under the law.
What if there's a fence? I suspect any kid who is big enough and strong enough to jump a decent fence would also know that they aren't supposed to.
>>(and any deck with no railings fails to meet resonable guidelines)
/sucessful/ lawsuit by a robber who brok in somewhere, and while he was breading and entering hurt himself on a knife and sued the owner. It's despicible that this case was even tried let alone reached the decision that it did.)
What? Where'd this deck thing come from? The original poster asked about jumping a fence... whether there is one or not aroung the coaster, I don't know. But if there's a decent fence, and someone jumps it and hurts themself on the inside, the owner should NOT be held responsible. Period. Similarily, if, as I suggested earlier, the owner locks up the cart, and someone still manages to hurt themself, the owner should not be held responsible.
The poster you replied to is not saying that parents are the sole people that can are responsible for all accidents, rather that in many cases people are held responsible for things that they absolutely shouldn't be.
(For instance, the post in another branch commenting on the
Keep the car locked up. That would significantly decrease the chance someone would hurt themselves on it.