Let's say we did patent it. I'll agree that prior art probably won't stop the USPTO from granting a patent. But now, the RIAA and MPAA ignore the patent and DoS someone. What could we do? Nothing. If we sue, it's a trivial task for them to prove prior art IN THE COURTS, which are fortunatly somewhat less corrupt than the USPTO.
In short, yeah, we MIGHT be able to get a patent, but it'd be useless.
I do the shift-click think on forums too, but tghe ones I visit (no longer) have pop-ups.
As for the flashing, I haven't seen it. I just assumed it was the flashing thing I've seen other windows do, but I gyess that may not be it. (I have hide taskbar on, so I usually don't see it.)
There was a story out west somewhere of some people on an overlook platform getting hit. I believe several people died in that strike. (There's a picture in the Hallady, Resnik, and Walker Fundamentals of Physics book we just used in class of one lady with he hair standing on end shortly before the strike from the buildup of charge.)
But since 9 times out of 10 the window that spawned them is the one you're using, you're fine. (At least for me, I hardly ever switch to another window before it's loaded enough to spawn the windows.)
As for the flashing, it's just letting you know that the window may need you attention. For instance, AIM flashes its chat windows when you get a message so you know to go look. There's an Windows API function -- BOOL FlashWindow(hwnd, TRUE) -- that will do it.
Physical mail you can at least throw away. And it comes all at once. You get you mail, sort into junk/not junk, toss the junk pile into the trash, and you're good for another day. Pop-ups you have to close every time you go to a new page.
And pop-unders at least don't steal the window focus, so you can work w/o interruption until you're done with the browser. (I.e., it's closer to the do it all at once model of junk mail)
Actually, I believe Win2K just reboots. That's what XP does at least if something happens that would previously have made a BSOD. (You can turn off the auto-reboot, but I don't know what happens then.)
This is according to a C|Net article and a couple times when Win2K rebooted on me.
By "translation", I was trying to play on the difference between the English that normal people speak and the English lawyers speak. If you really can't figure out what I meant, here is my post reworded:
"If you have time, you might want to make a list of the restrictions the EULA makes and put that into a database so you're not breaking the copyright on them."
Consequences of copyright violation (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ch5.html):
-Be forced to remove EULA from site -actual damages: lost profits in this case, or -statuatory damages, $750 to $30,000 normally (as determined "just" by the court) or $150,000 if the infringement was willful. If it wasn't willful, the minimum drops to $200 -legal costs
But there is US law to cover the EULA, assuming you're in the US. Reading through USC Title 17, I see no excemption that would make EULAs public domain. May have to summarize them.
It appears USC Title 17 also has a prohibition... IANAL, but I can't see anything that would exempt EULAs from the typical restrictions on copying material.
Might have to make a summary of the EULAs rather than posting them word for word.
But you're stealing from the advertisers if you do that. It's theft. Your contract with the store when you walk in is that you're going to listen to the ads. Otherwise they couldn't sell as many things. Any time you don't listen to one of our advertisements you're actually tresspassing in the store.
(If that sounds familiar, you might be thinking of this article)
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Sound doesn't deafen people. People deafen people.
Reading over my first post again, I'm now surprised you didn't say anything about the "anti-trust trail." "Where is it? I want to hike it." "Oh, it runs through Microsoft's campus. Right by the tennis courts."
Parent companies tend to leave child news companies largely alone. If they get too involved and it becomes biased, the news source looses credibility and some people go elsewhere. If you'll remember, MSNBC also ran several articles about the anti-trust trail with a decidedly anti-MS tone.
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Now all you'd need is a robot to put things in the oven/microvave/toaster for you. Kind of like those robots that serve backup tapes to the drives.
50 comments and IT'S STILL UP! Very slow, but up.
Let's say we did patent it. I'll agree that prior art probably won't stop the USPTO from granting a patent. But now, the RIAA and MPAA ignore the patent and DoS someone. What could we do? Nothing. If we sue, it's a trivial task for them to prove prior art IN THE COURTS, which are fortunatly somewhat less corrupt than the USPTO.
In short, yeah, we MIGHT be able to get a patent, but it'd be useless.
I do the shift-click think on forums too, but tghe ones I visit (no longer) have pop-ups.
As for the flashing, I haven't seen it. I just assumed it was the flashing thing I've seen other windows do, but I gyess that may not be it. (I have hide taskbar on, so I usually don't see it.)
Two words: prior art
There was a story out west somewhere of some people on an overlook platform getting hit. I believe several people died in that strike. (There's a picture in the Hallady, Resnik, and Walker Fundamentals of Physics book we just used in class of one lady with he hair standing on end shortly before the strike from the buildup of charge.)
But since 9 times out of 10 the window that spawned them is the one you're using, you're fine. (At least for me, I hardly ever switch to another window before it's loaded enough to spawn the windows.)
As for the flashing, it's just letting you know that the window may need you attention. For instance, AIM flashes its chat windows when you get a message so you know to go look. There's an Windows API function -- BOOL FlashWindow(hwnd, TRUE) -- that will do it.
Physical mail you can at least throw away. And it comes all at once. You get you mail, sort into junk/not junk, toss the junk pile into the trash, and you're good for another day. Pop-ups you have to close every time you go to a new page.
And pop-unders at least don't steal the window focus, so you can work w/o interruption until you're done with the browser. (I.e., it's closer to the do it all at once model of junk mail)
But then you still have the problem of it being in Leagalish. And I think it would look even better if you kept quotes for milestone clauses.
Actually, I believe Win2K just reboots. That's what XP does at least if something happens that would previously have made a BSOD. (You can turn off the auto-reboot, but I don't know what happens then.)
This is according to a C|Net article and a couple times when Win2K rebooted on me.
By "translation", I was trying to play on the difference between the English that normal people speak and the English lawyers speak. If you really can't figure out what I meant, here is my post reworded:
"If you have time, you might want to make a list of the restrictions the EULA makes and put that into a database so you're not breaking the copyright on them."
Consequences of copyright violation (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ch5.html):
-Be forced to remove EULA from site
-actual damages: lost profits in this case, or
-statuatory damages, $750 to $30,000 normally (as determined "just" by the court) or $150,000 if the infringement was willful. If it wasn't willful, the minimum drops to $200
-legal costs
>>There's no EULA to cover the EULA
But there is US law to cover the EULA, assuming you're in the US. Reading through USC Title 17, I see no excemption that would make EULAs public domain. May have to summarize them.
It appears USC Title 17 also has a prohibition... IANAL, but I can't see anything that would exempt EULAs from the typical restrictions on copying material.
Might have to make a summary of the EULAs rather than posting them word for word.
If the prohibition is in the EULA and not because of copyright law, all you'll need is someone who didn't agree to the EULA to sent it.
Then all we'll need is someone to not agree to the EULA. Then we'll be able to post it only (possibly) violating copyright law.
If you really have time, you might want to try to make an English translation of the EULAs so you're not breaking the copyright on them.
I KNEW R2 was always meant to serve drinks...
But you're stealing from the advertisers if you do that. It's theft. Your contract with the store when you walk in is that you're going to listen to the ads. Otherwise they couldn't sell as many things. Any time you don't listen to one of our advertisements you're actually tresspassing in the store.
(If that sounds familiar, you might be thinking of this article)
Sound doesn't deafen people. People deafen people.
Then you need to either run your volume too loud or suffer from the golden oldies bleeding through.
Reading over my first post again, I'm now surprised you didn't say anything about the "anti-trust trail." "Where is it? I want to hike it." "Oh, it runs through Microsoft's campus. Right by the tennis courts."
I made a typo. Sue me. You're not perfect either; "English" is capitalized, at least in American English. I can't vouch for British English.
Parent companies tend to leave child news companies largely alone. If they get too involved and it becomes biased, the news source looses credibility and some people go elsewhere. If you'll remember, MSNBC also ran several articles about the anti-trust trail with a decidedly anti-MS tone.
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