Also, one man's junk is another's treasure. I may not like how Evolution looks/feels while you may love how it works. To each his own. This allows personalization within an application type (and also the ability to further manipulate it for your corporate use) and also freedom of dependence.
Interesting point. I keep thinking that the only jobs an American will have is management and service. If lower management and labourers are outsourced to another country, then only the management is left here and the McDonalds to serve their food. Or any other service industry type. So the only thing that will save us is services instead of goods. We have to become slaves to our own desires to survive -- how ironic.
Could this be the demise of the First World as we know it? If we outsource everything, isn't the control in someone else's hands simply because their hands are cheaper? If you think about it, we could soon be slaves to those whom we are "enslaving" now. If those in Third World countries make the decisions, build the products, and sell them, haven't we lost all economic power?
This is eerily similar to the talk Neo had in Matrix: Reloaded. The discussion on whether the machines had control even at the most basic level -- purifying water, cleaning the air. Do we even now have a lack of control? What if all Asian countries decided to stop producing goods -- would our economy survive? Think of how many companies have ties in Asian countries. The automobile industry, heck even the IT industry with it's reliance on Chinese and Taiwanese manufacturing would nosedive. The stock markets would fold, there'd be a mass hysteria trying to create those products again. We'd have to figure out how to deal with it and the first thing we'd do is take the jobs to South America or elsewhere and start the whole thing again.
Or perhaps I'm just giving the worst case scenario. At any rate, it's interesting to think about the implications of globalization for those being "served."
I can't begin to try and understand your logic. Go to http://www.zone-h.org/en/defacements and look at the servers that are getting defaced. It's mostly linux servers. If linux were the "it" OS, there would be tons of people who would be writing viruses saying "Linus, why do you make it so easy!!!1"
I think this has to do more wiht the type of user we are talking about here. Joe Sixpack doesn't know anything about computers and thus uses Windows. Then we blame him when his computer has a worm. Well, if JS used Linux he wouldn't update his system either.
The only way to get everyone patched (moreso than the auto-download and ready to install of Windows) is to force everyone to patch. However, there would be several dupes on slashdot about how our rights are being taken away and how Microsoft can look into our computer. A step further, if people started using Linux, you might see the same thing with Linux...
but you need to realize that Microsoft and others have poured a lot of money into making it's system very user-friendly -- perhaps a little too much for nerds who aren't used to friends. As such, they front-end of their system (I would like to see a critique based on the actual interface) is very intuitive especially since us kids have been using Windows as long as we've used computers. So the Windows feel and the "this looks like Windows so it should act like it" is actually something we should want. Linux can only catch up in terms of end-user usability, but once it does that, it can then start to innovate. That's what I'm looking towards Mandrake and others to do.
I'm an American who lived in the Philippines for a decade, and when I went to Germany to visit some friends I had quite an experience. On our flight back to the Philippines, I, as a caucasian, was told to see the front desk about being "bumped up" to first class. As I sat in the first class lounge, I saw the ticket guy do that for every caucasian, but didn't mention anything to the hundreds of Filipinos that came through the same line.
If this had happened in the U.S., there'd be several lawsuits just waiting to happen. I think it's better that we have a ton of lawsuits than be allowed to discriminate even by the letter of the law.
Perhaps he's just now realizing how rock solid his case is. When SCO comes out with code that he wrote himself, he can point and laugh at them with no excuse needed. Basically he's fearless.
I just called them and it was pretty simple. I explained that I was calling and wanting them to investigate SCO because of the aforementioned issues and the guy was like "yeah, I've gotten a lot of these." So it seems like slashdotters are doing something. Or at least someone is.
I read somewhere (the infamous somewhere...) that it's the product placement and the McDonalds tie-ins that make or break the movie. Perhaps not enough in this case, but enough to make other movies that seem like bombs worthwhile.
Is that what makes it your favourite? "It starts quick, has message rules etc, and is easy to use." My friend, any e-mail client worth it's beans can do that. And so much more. I use M2 (with Opera) personally since it's all integrated so nicely into a bitchin browser. But Mozilla has theirs, and there are millions of quicker loading, more features and easier to use programs that OE.
This is something I"ve been saying all along! When you give Linux to someone who has been using windows their whole life of course they're going to have issues becuase they'll be going "Ok, here's how I _used_ to do it, now how do I _have_ to do it?" And it becomes a chore. On the other hand --
My grandma turned 80 a few months back and the one thing she wanted was a computer and she has never had one much less used one. So a few of us pitched in and built one for her and we put Lycoris on there. We touched nothing but as soon as it booted up we sat her down in front and showed her where the things she'll use are. Like Mozilla, GAIM, OpenOffice.org, and that's about it. Fastforward to the present day and she loves it. She never gets viruses or the porn pop-ups that her friends get. She hasn't turned it off yet. She is IMing me right now seeing when I'll come up to Indiana again.
The most important thing to do when you have a new user or a switching user is a support base. Perhaps family members or a Linux User Group. Because installation or upgrades are still crappy in Linux (for any user!) my cousin has gone over and updated OOo and GAIM and the such, but for the most part it's doing really good. One last word, Lycoris takes a brilliant approach: Don't organize things by their name (KWord, GAIM, GIMP) which don't help the new user -- they organize it by what it does.
And one last final word. What needs to happen is serveral distros for differing levels of nerdiness. We're seeing it emerge but it needs to become a community effort -- this will allow the power Linux user to use the distro that is suited for their needs and for the n00b to use a simple clean interface.
I have to say that exactly what you are describing is what has drawn me to UO and several other MMORPGs. Although I've stayed away (like an addict staying away from the dealer) I'm always fascinated by the economics of "fake" realities. For example, the situation with tamers is exactly what happened in the IT industry during the dot.com boom. We got people in here who's qualifications were MCSE and "I built a web site once..." Unfortunately, there are no admins to clean up. Yet the market cleaned itself up.
I'll address you by your closing name, ex-Frigax, and I have a question. Do you think an MMORPG that sets it's own rules might be better off than an admin one? Complete with elections for psuedo-admins who all have limited power. Perhaps that is too real of a scenario? It's something I've pondered and seeing as you are able to look at the game objectively I'd be interested in your thoughts.
I think this is what makes it all the more interesting. When you take away the most often used reason for using Linux (price), people are still using it. That says something about it's usability and support.
Yeah, have you tried to rip Thai money? A friend of mine handed me a bill and said he'd bet me two of em if I could tear it in half. Being a manly man, I agreed and proceeded to spend quite some energy on doing nothing. It's also nice to be able to have it come out of the laundry just fine...
Actually a couple of reps at my local Fry's are old *nix admins who got laid off and couldn't find a job. I usually am there about an hour or two shootin the breeze and discussing the moral decay of today's Windows users...
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As you can see, here at Baylor we have a few options to choose from -- more choices mean better pricesSic 'Em Bears!
Also, one man's junk is another's treasure. I may not like how Evolution looks/feels while you may love how it works. To each his own. This allows personalization within an application type (and also the ability to further manipulate it for your corporate use) and also freedom of dependence.
Interesting point. I keep thinking that the only jobs an American will have is management and service. If lower management and labourers are outsourced to another country, then only the management is left here and the McDonalds to serve their food. Or any other service industry type. So the only thing that will save us is services instead of goods. We have to become slaves to our own desires to survive -- how ironic.
This is eerily similar to the talk Neo had in Matrix: Reloaded. The discussion on whether the machines had control even at the most basic level -- purifying water, cleaning the air. Do we even now have a lack of control? What if all Asian countries decided to stop producing goods -- would our economy survive? Think of how many companies have ties in Asian countries. The automobile industry, heck even the IT industry with it's reliance on Chinese and Taiwanese manufacturing would nosedive. The stock markets would fold, there'd be a mass hysteria trying to create those products again. We'd have to figure out how to deal with it and the first thing we'd do is take the jobs to South America or elsewhere and start the whole thing again.
Or perhaps I'm just giving the worst case scenario. At any rate, it's interesting to think about the implications of globalization for those being "served."
I can't begin to try and understand your logic. Go to http://www.zone-h.org/en/defacements and look at the servers that are getting defaced. It's mostly linux servers. If linux were the "it" OS, there would be tons of people who would be writing viruses saying "Linus, why do you make it so easy!!!1"
It's actually starting to get to me how commercial this site is starting to feel...
The only way to get everyone patched (moreso than the auto-download and ready to install of Windows) is to force everyone to patch. However, there would be several dupes on slashdot about how our rights are being taken away and how Microsoft can look into our computer. A step further, if people started using Linux, you might see the same thing with Linux...
but you need to realize that Microsoft and others have poured a lot of money into making it's system very user-friendly -- perhaps a little too much for nerds who aren't used to friends. As such, they front-end of their system (I would like to see a critique based on the actual interface) is very intuitive especially since us kids have been using Windows as long as we've used computers. So the Windows feel and the "this looks like Windows so it should act like it" is actually something we should want. Linux can only catch up in terms of end-user usability, but once it does that, it can then start to innovate. That's what I'm looking towards Mandrake and others to do.
If this had happened in the U.S., there'd be several lawsuits just waiting to happen. I think it's better that we have a ton of lawsuits than be allowed to discriminate even by the letter of the law.
Welcome Coach Drew!!!
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*sigh* I got karma to burn...
Perhaps he's just now realizing how rock solid his case is. When SCO comes out with code that he wrote himself, he can point and laugh at them with no excuse needed. Basically he's fearless.
I just called them and it was pretty simple. I explained that I was calling and wanting them to investigate SCO because of the aforementioned issues and the guy was like "yeah, I've gotten a lot of these." So it seems like slashdotters are doing something. Or at least someone is.
I guess you're darmed if you do, darmed if you don't...
/American Saying -- sorta
I read somewhere (the infamous somewhere...) that it's the product placement and the McDonalds tie-ins that make or break the movie. Perhaps not enough in this case, but enough to make other movies that seem like bombs worthwhile.
Is that what makes it your favourite? "It starts quick, has message rules etc, and is easy to use." My friend, any e-mail client worth it's beans can do that. And so much more. I use M2 (with Opera) personally since it's all integrated so nicely into a bitchin browser. But Mozilla has theirs, and there are millions of quicker loading, more features and easier to use programs that OE.
I just got a new hotmail account and haven't told anyone about it and I'm waiting to see how much spam I get just from them.
Baylor University has IMAP etc. as well as OWA (Outlook Web Access) which is basically webmail off the exchange server.
My grandma turned 80 a few months back and the one thing she wanted was a computer and she has never had one much less used one. So a few of us pitched in and built one for her and we put Lycoris on there. We touched nothing but as soon as it booted up we sat her down in front and showed her where the things she'll use are. Like Mozilla, GAIM, OpenOffice.org, and that's about it. Fastforward to the present day and she loves it. She never gets viruses or the porn pop-ups that her friends get. She hasn't turned it off yet. She is IMing me right now seeing when I'll come up to Indiana again.
The most important thing to do when you have a new user or a switching user is a support base. Perhaps family members or a Linux User Group. Because installation or upgrades are still crappy in Linux (for any user!) my cousin has gone over and updated OOo and GAIM and the such, but for the most part it's doing really good. One last word, Lycoris takes a brilliant approach: Don't organize things by their name (KWord, GAIM, GIMP) which don't help the new user -- they organize it by what it does.
And one last final word. What needs to happen is serveral distros for differing levels of nerdiness. We're seeing it emerge but it needs to become a community effort -- this will allow the power Linux user to use the distro that is suited for their needs and for the n00b to use a simple clean interface.
I'll address you by your closing name, ex-Frigax, and I have a question. Do you think an MMORPG that sets it's own rules might be better off than an admin one? Complete with elections for psuedo-admins who all have limited power. Perhaps that is too real of a scenario? It's something I've pondered and seeing as you are able to look at the game objectively I'd be interested in your thoughts.
I think this is what makes it all the more interesting. When you take away the most often used reason for using Linux (price), people are still using it. That says something about it's usability and support.
Yeah, have you tried to rip Thai money? A friend of mine handed me a bill and said he'd bet me two of em if I could tear it in half. Being a manly man, I agreed and proceeded to spend quite some energy on doing nothing. It's also nice to be able to have it come out of the laundry just fine...
Isn't that Texas A&M? Oh wait, that's aTm...
I live in Texas and I use a smart card every day. I have never met a cocky Swiss, but I guess there's always a first. Seriously, go fuck yourself.
Actually a couple of reps at my local Fry's are old *nix admins who got laid off and couldn't find a job. I usually am there about an hour or two shootin the breeze and discussing the moral decay of today's Windows users...
I can't wait for September 13th when our football team gets to beat the crap out of 'em. Sic 'Em Bears.