...done that. I helped start a computer club a long time ago. Long ago enough in fact that I've forgotten most of what we actually did. ^_^
But finding a teacher who teaches computers / science to sponsor you is a great idea. I think you should also find about 5 prospective members who are willing to help out in a substantial way. It'll be easier to have a club if there's more than just one person in it. You don't have to be an official club to have fun with computers, we just used to go over each other's houses at first and mess around with Apples.
Houses are better than school buildings. You can just watch TV instead of work, if you want, and the food in the fridge is always better than what's in the vendening machines. ^_^
Waterthread also had a review and some comments on Eve on their forums. Overall, they were not great. Eve looks great graphically but suffers from both gameplay issues (it's boring and the death penalty is huge) and stability issues. Basically it's another MMOG that was pushed out the door early. So sad. Why can't someone plan and execute a decent MMOG?
1. Err, actually, I have a hotmail account, and if there's a way to view the headers on hotmail, I can't find it. Hotmail appears to strip all header information when it stores the htmlized version for your webpage view (pop access or something might be different, I haven't tried that.)
2. My firewall is on a DHCP connection to my ISP, so tomorrow, the IP different is gona be different. Curses, foiled spammers again! ^_^
Q: What changes would you like to see the Linux / Gnu community make to their source base? What changes would benefit the home desktop user the most? What changes would make your job as a suppiler of those home systems easier? (Actually, make that any Free Open Source Software organization, not just Gnu or the kernel folks.)
Let's face it: SMTP is broken and it needs to be fixed. There has to be some way of authenticating senders and attachments to messages?
SMTP is not broken and does not need to be fixed. For example, this virus would never succeed on my windows system. First, my IP address, 10.0.0.11, would not be of much use to the spammer. (And if you know anything about networks, you know why, and why I can post it and not worry.)
Second, in between my windows machine and the rest of the internet I have a firewall. THAT'S what really renders the virus moot. Nobody connects to any machine I have from the outside, period, ever. (Now of course there's ways to defeat a firewall, but that's also a much more difficult task.)
SMTP is not the issue. Naked machines on the 'net and crappy mail readers are. If a virus can take control of your machine, what authentication process can you devise that the virus can't duplicate now that it has control of the very same program you use to send email in the first place?
Even typing a password with every single email you send wouldn't work, because all a virus has to do is pop up a fake password box once, record what you type, and it can send all the authenticated email it wants. PGP and cookies don't help either, becuase that virus still has control of your machine. It can run your email program directly and just send mouse clicks to drive your email program. (Yes, this is done all the time for automated testing of windows programs.)
Basically, what's really needed is to put some or all of these SOBs in jail. And technical measures like SECURITY are the ticket, not just SMTP. This must be automatic for home users--ISPs must get involved as well as MS (and desktop Linux) to ensure that home users are adequately protected. And Outlook should just plain be made illegal. Period. Scrub that POS off the hard drive and forget it.
The ESPC website is darn interesting, check it out. In particular, they have a mailing list on yahoo groups, ostensibly for people to complain about false positives by spam filtering software. Really, it's a way for spammers to communicate about filtering, but it's really interesting to go there and browse through the list archives, which are freely available. Any admins out there might be well served by checking up on this list periodically.
The ESPC website also has a box where you can add your email address and receive "information" from them about the ESPC itself, which I would *ahem* not recomend.;-)
Sorry to bust your bubble, but there doesn't seem to ba any Stoneville, CA at all. 916 is my area code, and there's certainly no such place around here.
Furthermore, Mike Stone, 12345 Stone Road, Stoneville, CA.
Kinda makes you think the info might be bogus, eh?
In its latest attempt to crack down on spam, America Online has started blocking what it deems to be suspicious e-mail sent by customers of Comcast's High-Speed Internet and AOL Time Warner's Road Runner broadband services.
AOL, the interactive arm of AOL Time Warner, began in the last week to reject some e-mail sent by users of those services, according to AOL. AOL and Comcast, in particular, have worked together to identify a range of Internet protocol addresses of Comcast customers who have set up their own mail server to send messages, as opposed to using Comcast's mail servers like most subscribers do.
So this only affects you if you're 1) using Comcast, and 2) are running your own SMTP server. I have a different ISP and I use their SMTP server, even tho I have a server running for other protocols. It works fine, and there's no functionality I feel I'm missing. Mostly my server is there for firewall and NAT.
Can't send mail to mom, timmy? Use Comcast's goddamn mail server.
This move by AOL is a good thing. It eliminates one more source of potential spam, and closes many open relays, many of which were open only through ignorance. This is the way of the future, and I assume what everyone using the internet wants: close those damn open relays. I certainly am sick of spam, and I can't see how this is truly a cause of any inconvenience for anyone.
If Comcast was closing off incomming port 80 for all customers, and then charging an ass reaming to reconnect the service, that would be different. But having your own SMTP server doesn't provide any functionality that you can't get from Comcast at base price anyway.
In summary, good, and I hope many ISP's will follow Comcast's lead on this one.
There's also a good summary page of rescue discs that are available. Didn't look at windows specifically but I have used this to mount and fix various FAT type partitions. NTFS may be a slightly different animal.
#10, Space Shooter, for examble, I would say is not dead. What is dead is the simple 2D space shooters. Now we have space shooters in glorious 3D. Freelancer, for example. Who would want to go back to 2D? Heck, remember those power-ups that you could grab to give your ship extras, like shields, or extra guns, or better rate of fire? Freelancer allows you to, guess what, up-grade almost the exact things that those early power-ups did.
Ditto for the "Beat 'em Up". Their description: "Most beat 'em ups were fairly straightforward, you were a guy and your goal was to beat up other guys until they disappeared into thin air." Except now instead of a 2D side scrolling guy, we have a first person shooter, with a 3D environment and a Space Marine or Solid Snake whose job it is to get to the end of the level while beating up (or fraging) all the dudes along the way. My, how things have (not) changed.
Maze games could be argued are incorporated into other genres, like the above mentioned FPS, although the genre as a distinct entity does seem to have gone away. Other genres metioned in the article I do not miss. Text adventure, ugh. These things were just obtuse on purpose and a waste of time. (Although perhaps a connection between EverQuest and it's Diku Mud progenitory would be appropriate.) Educational games, sorry. I have A&E now. And virtual reality games were never really popular enought to say the genre has vanished -- it just never caught on in the first place.
But two I truly do miss. Full motion video: Sierra produced a 9 CD adventure game called Phantasmagoria that was just amazing. It featured live actors against rendered back drops. The range of emotion and expression achieved was far superior to any full CGI you get now. Sorry for all you CGI Spirits Within fans;), but all of the CGI used in theater and games just has a flat look to it.
The other genre I do miss is the graphical adventure. I don't know why these aren't more popular. Maybe because they were made too difficult of many people to play? I think that must be the reason. Stupid puzzle of ridiculous complexity will turn all but the most hard core off to these types of games.
Games have become much more costly to produce. I believe that that is the main reason we see (or seem to see) fewer genres these days. Producers can no longer take a chance on a game that may sel less than 50 thousand copies, I suppose. I wonder if consumers would accept cheaper games, if it meant that some of the more specialized genres could come back. I wonder if that would ba a good question for an Ask Slashdot.
I did see the part about subpeonas, but I assumed it was frivolous. My intent in saying "make ISPs liable" was to force responsible behaviour. If an ISP cooperates with the authorities, then the blame should be passed back along to the person doing the spamming.
I won't debate that your feel you are fighting hard against spam, but there are a few points in your reply that don't make sense to me.
They run form mail scripts against unsecure servers (we can't exactly block port 80, now can we?). They find open relays running on other ports....if that law passed, we would shut down our SMTP server and that would be that. No outbound mail for anyone.
How does shutting down your SMTP server block port 80 or access to open relays running on other ports? I think you've exagerated a bit here.
You want a workable solution? Allow us to block access to anyone blocking caller ID. Most professional spammers block caller ID because they know we can and do block them by their phone number
Okaaaay. Why can't you block based on caller ID now? Is there really some law preventing you from doing so? So basically you claim the same guy from the same phone is repeatedly zinging you for a $20 monthly fee, and you haven't done something about it? And the authorities and banks don't care that this guy is stealing "10 credit card numbers a week"? Hmmmm....
Maybe you *should* just shutdown your business, I don't see you you guys managed to figure out how to work your web browser to post this, let alone setup an SMTP server. Wait, this isn't a Microsoft server is it? I hear any idiot can get one of those running.
Sorry for the cut down but the more I tried to post a reasonable response, the more I realized that your excuses were totally bogus. 10 credit card numbers a week, my ass. I'd go after the guy with a gun if it was my business, and frankly so would any small business owner I've ever worked for.
While I'm not a fan of Mircosoft, they have never sent me spam, never that I can recall. This shows the real problem behind spam. A large company feels it has a legitimate need to use email advertising, yet the laws designed to deal with porn, scams, MMF schemes and outright law breaking that show up in my email on a daily basis are preventing MS and other from doing anything legitimate.
Let's take back the internet. Make ISPs responsible for ANY fraudulent email they transmit or relay. Legally reposnsible as in fines and jail terms. Then allow companies to send out unsolicited email provided the have a reasonable opt-out policy. Primary sellers only, email lists just for the sake of emailing people should be made illegal.
Then I think you have the problem solved. ISPs aren't going to allow just anyone to use their mail servers, esp. companies who go through a foriegn ISP, if the ISP here may be held accountable for anything passing through their systems (and take metaphore that anyway you like). Then only reputable companies w/ a recognized opt-out policy can send email. (Make the FCC or the FCT or some big government commitee decide who is "recognized".)
Big, reputable companies can be dealt with. I'm not scared of them. It's the creeps who hide behind anonymity and pedal trash that I want to get.
(And I know what an open relay is and why some mistaken people feel they have a need to run one. I don't care. I don't care about your frickin email server or your frickin (fake) political causes or frickin what not. You people with open servers are as bad as the spammers themselves.)
However, it's really just to much trouble to learn for me. Maybe I'm just old fashioned but I know the vi keyboard codes, and the ones used by less and more. I use those all the time. I don't see why it is necassary to invent another file reader just for man pages.
If they (the info page creators) went with something that was truly standard and ubiquetous, like HTML, I'd think it was great, but why does the world need yet one more text file format + reader?
An interesting line from the article mentions that one reason adults and businesses are turning to IM is that email is increasingly filled with spam. This is a great counter point to Barry Shein's interview earlier on Slashdot today.
Mr. Shein wants to legalize spam and allow ISP to charge for it, a position that I completely oppose. Shein's proposal will result in more spam and flood our in-boxes with even more junk. Meanwhile, users are grabing any technology that is less spam friendly (and not acrane and difficult to use).
4) There are pefectly legitment reasons to rn an open relay. Maybe you want freedom fighters in s. America to be able to coordinate.
Well I guess the freedom fighters are sh1t out of luck, aren't they? Sorry, no. There are no good, over-riding reasons to have an open server.
you don't want unsolicited email? make a list of email that us will accept, filter out all other emails.
You want to run an open server? Just make a list of people it will accept email from, and filter out all the others.
There now doesn't that sound stupid? Same for telemarkters. Just filter all calls at home that you don't know about already. Except then no one can acutally call you.
There is legislation pending for telemarketing calls, and we should do the same for spam. Plus close the "open relay" loophole by punishing people who can't manage their server effectivly and filter spam at the same time.
Banning spam is an impossible task, and instead a mechanism must be developed to control bulk commercial e-mail and make the senders pay for the infrastructure costs of distribution, according to an Internet service provider president.
"It could be a legitimate business," said Barry Shein
This I object to a lot. There's no way I want to support any initiative that puts more spam in my mail box. The national "don't call" list is a step in the right direction towards re-gaining control over our telephones. Now we should support the same thing for email.
Don't give up the fight!
Here's my suggestions:
1. Make it illegal to use an email list for spam unless you are the primary seller to a customer. Let's put all these knot-heads who do nothing but collect email address and re-sell them out of business. Amazon.com can hold on to my email because I purchase stuff from them, but not anyone I don't have a business relationship with.
2. Primary sellers may sell one-time use email addresses. One time use. Period. Holding onto that email falls under 1. and will land your butt in jail.
3. The primary seller MUST maintain a "don't email" service. Failure to do this accurately is a big no-no. Addresses on the "don't email" list can't be sold or even used internally for advertising.
Now that will take care of all the domestic spam. To finish the job, we should:
4. Require that the mail relay is responsible for anything transmitted. Yup, run an open relay and you could go to prison. Sucks to be you. Maybe you should put some reasonable controls on that open relay, like only accepting email from IPs from a country with reasonable SPAM law. China is obviously right out ^_^.
That's it. We could do it. "Don't email" lists won't work because foreign coutnries won't respect them. But close those relays and the problem becomes local. Some well meaning yet technically challenged IT people go to prison? Good. The technically challenged have no business operating a computer anyway.
Think how much better the world would be if no one was getting bilked by 419. If everyone could use the internet with fear of unwanted porn or receiving literally hundreds of scams each month. Hey, we might even see some growth in the industry! More use of websites, legitmate use of email advertising, and the jobs that follow, it all flows from taking control of the internet from people that are basically common criminals.
Mr. Shein's plan does one thing and one thing only, and that's put money in his pocket, while the rest of us can go hang.
Too bad the US couldn't lean what from Taiwan? Pirate over-priced monopoly-ware until MS throws in the towel and agrees to behave in a reasonable manner?
I'm with michael on this one. There are a lot of free compilers out there now, including Microsoft VC++
and Borland
Gcc is good, open, and could use some work, so please think about helping out. My favorite is MinGW which is a really nice and decently maintained Win32 version of gcc and binutils. MinGW also distributes MSYS which is a bash shell and other gnu utilities that make a windows box capable of running a Linux configure script. This allows much easier porting of GNU applications to windows and vice versa. There are several GUI compilers based on MinGW too, see the web page FAQ. A nice GUI GCC based compiler for Win32 is Bloodshed Dev-C++, which I've used.
Cygwin is good too but I prefer MinGW (obviously).
So think about helping out, our tools will only get better if folks work on them.
It would have been much cheaper for Microsoft to bundle some of their own games, like Halo, with the Xbox. Instead they chose to bundle two games which Sega made exclusive to Xbox, and which didn't sell very well in their own right: Sega GT and Jet Set Radio Future.
Atually, I read something about this when the bundle first appeared. Since JSRF and SGT were not selling well, Sega agreed to offer them cheap to MS for the bundle. Better to get a few dollars from many sales than to get more dollars from a lot less sales, I guess.
And MS makes more off money of the popular games like Halo, so they keep those full price, hoping that new Xbox owners will pick up a copy for their new console.
Yes, MS probably was helping out Sega, but that's just good business, right? And I've said this before too, but I'll say it again. I wish all the current console makers and third party game producers well. Competition is best for the consumer, and I hope Sony, MS and Nintendo are all around for many years to offer gamers intense competition. Look at what that competition has got us already: great online game play, dirt cheap consoles (Xbox + 2 game bundle = cheaper than Nintendo), and tons of great games available for each system.
Buy all systems and support them all, it's in our best interest.
Well, the FAQ's are not word for word, but there are large sections that are cut and paste, so sure, at least these guys are ripping each other off.
Oh well, browserwise.com can go away too.
browserwise.com has address 64.157.3.250 browserwise.com mail is handled (pri=20) by asahi-e0.wayinternet.com browserwise.com mail is handled (pri=10) by martini-e0.wayinternet.com asahi-e0.wayinternet.c om has address 216.133.242.245 martini-e0.wayinternet.com has address 216.133.242.226 [whois.arin.net] Level 3 Communications, Inc. LC-ORG-ARIN (NET-64-152-0-0-1) 64.152.0.0 - 64.159.255.255 Neucom, Inc. NEUCOM-64-157-0-0 (NET-64-157-0-0-1) 64.157.0.0 - 64.157.3.255 CandidHosting Inc. NEUC-CH-64-157-3-0 (NET-64-157-3-0-1) 64.157.3.0 - 64.157.3.255
# ARIN Whois database, last updated 2003-01-30 20:00 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's Whois database.
[whois.arin.net] Epoch Networks ENI-BLK5 (NET-216-132-0-0-1) 216.132.0.0 - 216.133.255.255 Way Internet EPOCH-8606 (NET-216-133-242-224-1) 216.133.242.224 - 216.133.242.255
# ARIN Whois database, last updated 2003-01-30 20:00 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's Whois database.
So 216.133.242.224 - 216.133.242.255 and 64.157.3.0 - 64.157.3.255 are now in my firewall block list as well as xupiter.com.
I have a
previous post with xupiter.com's IP info, for those of you who want to block them.
Browserwise.com seems to be a totally different company, even the top level where the IP range is purchased from is different. Browserwise.com is hosted at the top level by Level 3 Communcations, while xupiter.com is hosted at the top level by Quest. I looked at both web sites (with Lynx! it's safe... ^_^) and the content does NOT seem to "match" to me.
Sorry but I think you just got carried away in your search and these two companies are not the same, or even related in anyway.
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But finding a teacher who teaches computers / science to sponsor you is a great idea. I think you should also find about 5 prospective members who are willing to help out in a substantial way. It'll be easier to have a club if there's more than just one person in it. You don't have to be an official club to have fun with computers, we just used to go over each other's houses at first and mess around with Apples.
Houses are better than school buildings. You can just watch TV instead of work, if you want, and the food in the fridge is always better than what's in the vendening machines. ^_^
Waterthread also had a review and some comments on Eve on their forums. Overall, they were not great. Eve looks great graphically but suffers from both gameplay issues (it's boring and the death penalty is huge) and stability issues. Basically it's another MMOG that was pushed out the door early. So sad. Why can't someone plan and execute a decent MMOG?
2. My firewall is on a DHCP connection to my ISP, so tomorrow, the IP different is gona be different. Curses, foiled spammers again! ^_^
Q: What changes would you like to see the Linux / Gnu community make to their source base? What changes would benefit the home desktop user the most? What changes would make your job as a suppiler of those home systems easier? (Actually, make that any Free Open Source Software organization, not just Gnu or the kernel folks.)
SMTP is not broken and does not need to be fixed. For example, this virus would never succeed on my windows system. First, my IP address, 10.0.0.11, would not be of much use to the spammer. (And if you know anything about networks, you know why, and why I can post it and not worry.)
Second, in between my windows machine and the rest of the internet I have a firewall. THAT'S what really renders the virus moot. Nobody connects to any machine I have from the outside, period, ever. (Now of course there's ways to defeat a firewall, but that's also a much more difficult task.)
SMTP is not the issue. Naked machines on the 'net and crappy mail readers are. If a virus can take control of your machine, what authentication process can you devise that the virus can't duplicate now that it has control of the very same program you use to send email in the first place?
Even typing a password with every single email you send wouldn't work, because all a virus has to do is pop up a fake password box once, record what you type, and it can send all the authenticated email it wants. PGP and cookies don't help either, becuase that virus still has control of your machine. It can run your email program directly and just send mouse clicks to drive your email program. (Yes, this is done all the time for automated testing of windows programs.)
Basically, what's really needed is to put some or all of these SOBs in jail. And technical measures like SECURITY are the ticket, not just SMTP. This must be automatic for home users--ISPs must get involved as well as MS (and desktop Linux) to ensure that home users are adequately protected. And Outlook should just plain be made illegal. Period. Scrub that POS off the hard drive and forget it.
Sorry if I went off too much there. Laters.
You're one of those people who never reads the manual, right? And make people like me posts to email lists saying "RTFM noob"?
The ESPC website also has a box where you can add your email address and receive "information" from them about the ESPC itself, which I would *ahem* not recomend. ;-)
Furthermore, Mike Stone, 12345 Stone Road, Stoneville, CA.
Kinda makes you think the info might be bogus, eh?
In its latest attempt to crack down on spam, America Online has started blocking what it deems to be suspicious e-mail sent by customers of Comcast's High-Speed Internet and AOL Time Warner's Road Runner broadband services.
AOL, the interactive arm of AOL Time Warner, began in the last week to reject some e-mail sent by users of those services, according to AOL. AOL and Comcast, in particular, have worked together to identify a range of Internet protocol addresses of Comcast customers who have set up their own mail server to send messages, as opposed to using Comcast's mail servers like most subscribers do.
So this only affects you if you're 1) using Comcast, and 2) are running your own SMTP server. I have a different ISP and I use their SMTP server, even tho I have a server running for other protocols. It works fine, and there's no functionality I feel I'm missing. Mostly my server is there for firewall and NAT.
Can't send mail to mom, timmy? Use Comcast's goddamn mail server.
This move by AOL is a good thing. It eliminates one more source of potential spam, and closes many open relays, many of which were open only through ignorance. This is the way of the future, and I assume what everyone using the internet wants: close those damn open relays. I certainly am sick of spam, and I can't see how this is truly a cause of any inconvenience for anyone.
If Comcast was closing off incomming port 80 for all customers, and then charging an ass reaming to reconnect the service, that would be different. But having your own SMTP server doesn't provide any functionality that you can't get from Comcast at base price anyway.
In summary, good, and I hope many ISP's will follow Comcast's lead on this one.
There's also a good summary page of rescue discs that are available. Didn't look at windows specifically but I have used this to mount and fix various FAT type partitions. NTFS may be a slightly different animal.
Ditto for the "Beat 'em Up". Their description: "Most beat 'em ups were fairly straightforward, you were a guy and your goal was to beat up other guys until they disappeared into thin air." Except now instead of a 2D side scrolling guy, we have a first person shooter, with a 3D environment and a Space Marine or Solid Snake whose job it is to get to the end of the level while beating up (or fraging) all the dudes along the way. My, how things have (not) changed.
Maze games could be argued are incorporated into other genres, like the above mentioned FPS, although the genre as a distinct entity does seem to have gone away. Other genres metioned in the article I do not miss. Text adventure, ugh. These things were just obtuse on purpose and a waste of time. (Although perhaps a connection between EverQuest and it's Diku Mud progenitory would be appropriate.) Educational games, sorry. I have A&E now. And virtual reality games were never really popular enought to say the genre has vanished -- it just never caught on in the first place.
But two I truly do miss. Full motion video: Sierra produced a 9 CD adventure game called Phantasmagoria that was just amazing. It featured live actors against rendered back drops. The range of emotion and expression achieved was far superior to any full CGI you get now. Sorry for all you CGI Spirits Within fans ;), but all of the CGI used in theater and games just has a flat look to it.
The other genre I do miss is the graphical adventure. I don't know why these aren't more popular. Maybe because they were made too difficult of many people to play? I think that must be the reason. Stupid puzzle of ridiculous complexity will turn all but the most hard core off to these types of games.
Games have become much more costly to produce. I believe that that is the main reason we see (or seem to see) fewer genres these days. Producers can no longer take a chance on a game that may sel less than 50 thousand copies, I suppose. I wonder if consumers would accept cheaper games, if it meant that some of the more specialized genres could come back. I wonder if that would ba a good question for an Ask Slashdot.
I did see the part about subpeonas, but I assumed it was frivolous. My intent in saying "make ISPs liable" was to force responsible behaviour. If an ISP cooperates with the authorities, then the blame should be passed back along to the person doing the spamming.
They run form mail scripts against unsecure servers (we can't exactly block port 80, now can we?). They find open relays running on other ports. ...if that law passed, we would shut down our SMTP server and that would be that. No outbound mail for anyone.
How does shutting down your SMTP server block port 80 or access to open relays running on other ports? I think you've exagerated a bit here.
You want a workable solution? Allow us to block access to anyone blocking caller ID. Most professional spammers block caller ID because they know we can and do block them by their phone number
Okaaaay. Why can't you block based on caller ID now? Is there really some law preventing you from doing so? So basically you claim the same guy from the same phone is repeatedly zinging you for a $20 monthly fee, and you haven't done something about it? And the authorities and banks don't care that this guy is stealing "10 credit card numbers a week"? Hmmmm....
Maybe you *should* just shutdown your business, I don't see you you guys managed to figure out how to work your web browser to post this, let alone setup an SMTP server. Wait, this isn't a Microsoft server is it? I hear any idiot can get one of those running. Sorry for the cut down but the more I tried to post a reasonable response, the more I realized that your excuses were totally bogus. 10 credit card numbers a week, my ass. I'd go after the guy with a gun if it was my business, and frankly so would any small business owner I've ever worked for.
Let's take back the internet. Make ISPs responsible for ANY fraudulent email they transmit or relay. Legally reposnsible as in fines and jail terms. Then allow companies to send out unsolicited email provided the have a reasonable opt-out policy. Primary sellers only, email lists just for the sake of emailing people should be made illegal.
Then I think you have the problem solved. ISPs aren't going to allow just anyone to use their mail servers, esp. companies who go through a foriegn ISP, if the ISP here may be held accountable for anything passing through their systems (and take metaphore that anyway you like). Then only reputable companies w/ a recognized opt-out policy can send email. (Make the FCC or the FCT or some big government commitee decide who is "recognized".)
Big, reputable companies can be dealt with. I'm not scared of them. It's the creeps who hide behind anonymity and pedal trash that I want to get.
(And I know what an open relay is and why some mistaken people feel they have a need to run one. I don't care. I don't care about your frickin email server or your frickin (fake) political causes or frickin what not. You people with open servers are as bad as the spammers themselves.)
Actually, if you made an "already slashdotted, thank you very much" list, you coult avoid a lot of duplicates on the main page.
However, it's really just to much trouble to learn for me. Maybe I'm just old fashioned but I know the vi keyboard codes, and the ones used by less and more. I use those all the time. I don't see why it is necassary to invent another file reader just for man pages.
If they (the info page creators) went with something that was truly standard and ubiquetous, like HTML, I'd think it was great, but why does the world need yet one more text file format + reader?
Mr. Shein wants to legalize spam and allow ISP to charge for it, a position that I completely oppose. Shein's proposal will result in more spam and flood our in-boxes with even more junk. Meanwhile, users are grabing any technology that is less spam friendly (and not acrane and difficult to use).
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4) There are pefectly legitment reasons to rn an open relay. Maybe you want freedom fighters in s. America to be able to coordinate.
Well I guess the freedom fighters are sh1t out of luck, aren't they? Sorry, no. There are no good, over-riding reasons to have an open server.
you don't want unsolicited email? make a list of email that us will accept, filter out all other emails.
You want to run an open server? Just make a list of people it will accept email from, and filter out all the others.
There now doesn't that sound stupid? Same for telemarkters. Just filter all calls at home that you don't know about already. Except then no one can acutally call you.
There is legislation pending for telemarketing calls, and we should do the same for spam. Plus close the "open relay" loophole by punishing people who can't manage their server effectivly and filter spam at the same time.
Banning spam is an impossible task, and instead a mechanism must be developed to control bulk commercial e-mail and make the senders pay for the infrastructure costs of distribution, according to an Internet service provider president.
"It could be a legitimate business," said Barry Shein
This I object to a lot. There's no way I want to support any initiative that puts more spam in my mail box. The national "don't call" list is a step in the right direction towards re-gaining control over our telephones. Now we should support the same thing for email.
Don't give up the fight!
Here's my suggestions:
1. Make it illegal to use an email list for spam unless you are the primary seller to a customer. Let's put all these knot-heads who do nothing but collect email address and re-sell them out of business. Amazon.com can hold on to my email because I purchase stuff from them, but not anyone I don't have a business relationship with.
2. Primary sellers may sell one-time use email addresses. One time use. Period. Holding onto that email falls under 1. and will land your butt in jail.
3. The primary seller MUST maintain a "don't email" service. Failure to do this accurately is a big no-no. Addresses on the "don't email" list can't be sold or even used internally for advertising.
Now that will take care of all the domestic spam. To finish the job, we should:
4. Require that the mail relay is responsible for anything transmitted. Yup, run an open relay and you could go to prison. Sucks to be you. Maybe you should put some reasonable controls on that open relay, like only accepting email from IPs from a country with reasonable SPAM law. China is obviously right out ^_^.
That's it. We could do it. "Don't email" lists won't work because foreign coutnries won't respect them. But close those relays and the problem becomes local. Some well meaning yet technically challenged IT people go to prison? Good. The technically challenged have no business operating a computer anyway.
Think how much better the world would be if no one was getting bilked by 419. If everyone could use the internet with fear of unwanted porn or receiving literally hundreds of scams each month. Hey, we might even see some growth in the industry! More use of websites, legitmate use of email advertising, and the jobs that follow, it all flows from taking control of the internet from people that are basically common criminals.
Mr. Shein's plan does one thing and one thing only, and that's put money in his pocket, while the rest of us can go hang.
^_^
I've never actually downloaded that package. It's from a list of free C++ compilers, the same one I got the Borland link from.
I'm taking someone else's word that there is a command line version of VC++ in there somewhere. If I'm wrong, *shrug* I use MinGW anyway. ^_^
Gcc is good, open, and could use some work, so please think about helping out. My favorite is MinGW which is a really nice and decently maintained Win32 version of gcc and binutils. MinGW also distributes MSYS which is a bash shell and other gnu utilities that make a windows box capable of running a Linux configure script. This allows much easier porting of GNU applications to windows and vice versa. There are several GUI compilers based on MinGW too, see the web page FAQ. A nice GUI GCC based compiler for Win32 is Bloodshed Dev-C++, which I've used.
Cygwin is good too but I prefer MinGW (obviously).
So think about helping out, our tools will only get better if folks work on them.
Atually, I read something about this when the bundle first appeared. Since JSRF and SGT were not selling well, Sega agreed to offer them cheap to MS for the bundle. Better to get a few dollars from many sales than to get more dollars from a lot less sales, I guess.
And MS makes more off money of the popular games like Halo, so they keep those full price, hoping that new Xbox owners will pick up a copy for their new console.
Yes, MS probably was helping out Sega, but that's just good business, right? And I've said this before too, but I'll say it again. I wish all the current console makers and third party game producers well. Competition is best for the consumer, and I hope Sony, MS and Nintendo are all around for many years to offer gamers intense competition. Look at what that competition has got us already: great online game play, dirt cheap consoles (Xbox + 2 game bundle = cheaper than Nintendo), and tons of great games available for each system.
Buy all systems and support them all, it's in our best interest.
Well, the FAQ's are not word for word, but there are large sections that are cut and paste, so sure, at least these guys are ripping each other off.
c om has address 216.133.242.245
Oh well, browserwise.com can go away too.
browserwise.com has address 64.157.3.250
browserwise.com mail is handled (pri=20) by asahi-e0.wayinternet.com
browserwise.com mail is handled (pri=10) by martini-e0.wayinternet.com
asahi-e0.wayinternet.
martini-e0.wayinternet.com has address 216.133.242.226
[whois.arin.net]
Level 3 Communications, Inc. LC-ORG-ARIN (NET-64-152-0-0-1)
64.152.0.0 - 64.159.255.255
Neucom, Inc. NEUCOM-64-157-0-0 (NET-64-157-0-0-1)
64.157.0.0 - 64.157.3.255
CandidHosting Inc. NEUC-CH-64-157-3-0 (NET-64-157-3-0-1)
64.157.3.0 - 64.157.3.255
# ARIN Whois database, last updated 2003-01-30 20:00
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's Whois database.
[whois.arin.net]
Epoch Networks ENI-BLK5 (NET-216-132-0-0-1)
216.132.0.0 - 216.133.255.255
Way Internet EPOCH-8606 (NET-216-133-242-224-1)
216.133.242.224 - 216.133.242.255
# ARIN Whois database, last updated 2003-01-30 20:00
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's Whois database.
So 216.133.242.224 - 216.133.242.255 and 64.157.3.0
- 64.157.3.255 are now in my firewall block list as well as xupiter.com.
>> P L O I N K ! ! <<
Done! Next!
Browserwise.com seems to be a totally different company, even the top level where the IP range is purchased from is different. Browserwise.com is hosted at the top level by Level 3 Communcations, while xupiter.com is hosted at the top level by Quest. I looked at both web sites (with Lynx! it's safe... ^_^) and the content does NOT seem to "match" to me.
Sorry but I think you just got carried away in your search and these two companies are not the same, or even related in anyway.