"typical braindead US style ignorance"? How about, "typical Slashdot user assholitude"?
Well, it's invariably US posters who display that 'typical Slashdot user assholitude', so if Slashdot is your only point of contact with the US population, I can see how someone might easily conflate the two things.
How about, "typical Euro/Aussie insecurity complex"? Do those sound any better?
This last might if Australia wasn't a whole hemisphere away from Europe and has very little in common with that continent.
Tell me, was that an example of 'typical braindead US ignorance', or just another case of 'typical Slashdot user assholitude'?
You must think that just because YOU aren't stuck with a retarded playboy for a political leader...
Retarded playboy, retarded playboy's poodle... what's the difference?
Yeah it's interesting. A friend of mine who uses his g5 for his design business is relativly pissed about panther. Quicktime broke, a bunch of 3rd party utilities broke.
Your friend is a fool. Anybody who relies on their computer to make a living and installs a brand new OS on the day of release deserves everything they get.
I kinda thought it was a good marketing department and a better legal department.
Then your understanding is as flawed as any I've seen. Umpteen judges certainly didn't seem to buy the notion that Microsoft owed it's monopoly to it's marketing skill.
Shit, most of the open source world spends their time coming up with alternatives that are almost exact clones of what Microsoft does.
Yeah, right. Like Linux, Apache, Gnome, Gimp, MySql, vi, emacs, GCC and all those other office-style products. Talk about the clueless pot calling the kettle... sheesh.
In case you have not realized, you get modded troll because you have no real opinion.
Of course he has a real opinion. You may not agree with him, but his opinion is stated clearly in his post. He disagrees with the notion of copyright and doesn't think it's a useful idea. That's a perfectly respectable opinion, whether you agree with him or not.
Back up your retorhic with a pursuasive argument and you may finally be taken seriously
Learn to spell and people might begin to assume that you're something other than a 14 year old schoolboy living in his mother's basement.
This won't happen - Microsoft have already banned the distribution of their patches on CD
Fortunately they've now got this really useful system whereby they email you important security patches.
If I hadn't installed all of those useful security patches that Microsoft's team of crack C-class programmers have been e-mailing me, why, who knows, my box would probably be 0wn3d by some tiny l33t uber-hacker by now?
As it is, the constant activity from the light on my cable modem reminds me on an ongoing basis that we are continuously fighting off attempts from evil hax0rz to get control of my computer. Fortunately, thanks to the reliability of Microsoft's email security patch programme, those poor skript kiddies don't stand a cat 5 cable in wireless networking hell's chance.
Oh and by the way. I don't want any of you trolls trying to tell me that Microsoft don't email security patches. Bill Gates signed the emails personally, and there's no way that Bill would lie to me. The money that he owes me for forwarding those emails on last year is just a little late is all...
Or do you just argue that any site with popups dosn't deserve your time.
That would be my position. If foolish web designers are so clueless that they are going to design features that share similar characteristics to advertisements, then I've got no desire to see the stuff that they want to show me.
THey're pissed cuz they have to spend 3 hours
combing serial generator web sites looking for
the new crack.
Not at all. I've always found that the thoughtful distributors of warez via p2p invariably take the trouble to package the serial number or generator along with the app.
Why would anyone in their right mind sign over a license to anyone that was not revocable?
For money, of course. If the price is right, most things are for sale.
And I'm pretty sure ATT or whoever sold IBM their license before it was as clear as it is today that the IP in an OS can be a license to print money. I mean, how much do you suppose an irrevocable licence to CP/M is worth today? Twopence? Threepence?
He doesn't seem to be here at the moment, so I'll have to do my Overly Critical Guy impression:
<Overly Critical Guy> You slashbots are all hypocritical linux-loving morons. You've got no insight at all into how intelligent this copy protection scheme is. Just because some student hacker says that it can be bypassed by holding down the shift key, that doesn't actually mean it's true.
Why don't you go out and buy a copy of the CD and see for yourself instead of believing everything you read here on Slashdot? </Overly Critical Guy>
This student probably won't see any prison time. But he broke the law.
Actually, that's something that's highly debateable. Leaving aside for a moment the fact that everyone is still innocent until proven guilty, if this stupid company actually do bring a case, it's hard to see what law he actually broke.
He didn't reverse engineer the software. He didn't distribute anyone else's intellectual property. Effectively, all he did was said 'you can copy these CD's by holding down the shift key.
IANAL, but legally, I don't see how that's any different to telling people that you can copy an unprotected CD (which this effectively is) by running a copy of Nero Burning Rom.
But perhaps you believe that's a breach of the DCMA as well?
Slashdot Mirror
But if Darl McBride had a store, the rocks would be as big as your fist.
And learn how to punctuate while you're there.
"typical braindead US style ignorance"? How about, "typical Slashdot user assholitude"?
Well, it's invariably US posters who display that 'typical Slashdot user assholitude', so if Slashdot is your only point of contact with the US population, I can see how someone might easily conflate the two things.
How about, "typical Euro/Aussie insecurity complex"? Do those sound any better?
This last might if Australia wasn't a whole hemisphere away from Europe and has very little in common with that continent.
Tell me, was that an example of 'typical braindead US ignorance', or just another case of 'typical Slashdot user assholitude'?
You must think that just because YOU aren't stuck with a retarded playboy for a political leader...
Retarded playboy, retarded playboy's poodle... what's the difference?
Yeah it's interesting. A friend of mine who uses his g5 for his design business is relativly pissed about panther. Quicktime broke, a bunch of 3rd party utilities broke.
Your friend is a fool. Anybody who relies on their computer to make a living and installs a brand new OS on the day of release deserves everything they get.
Where hardware in this case is a free ADI power cable splitter.
That deal is almost tempting enough to make me want to upgrade from my warez copy of Windows 2000.
Almost.
Like, a broken Devo record or something.
Are we not nerds?
You're trolling. Here's another comparison that uses the same dishonest tactics:
You can only buy Windows XP for under $100 if you buy it with hardware.
If you buy Apple's hardware, OS X comes free.
Why is everyone fussing about MS when you can run WINE
Because we'd rather WHINE than run WINE.
Only if the emulator meets your needs. It would be a bit stupid otherwise, wouldn't it?
FWIW, you can find out whether it will run the programs you want by checking the website before you buy, running a demo, etc.
HTH.
Oh, bollocks. A single misplaced tag and a perfectly elegant flame is completely fucked.
I wouldn't mind, but it happened *after* I'd previewed it.
I kinda thought it was a good marketing department and a better legal department.
Then your understanding is as flawed as any I've seen. Umpteen judges certainly didn't seem to buy the notion that Microsoft owed it's monopoly to it's marketing skill.
Shit, most of the open source world spends their time coming up with alternatives that are almost exact clones of what Microsoft does.
Yeah, right. Like Linux, Apache, Gnome, Gimp, MySql, vi, emacs, GCC and all those other office-style products. Talk about the clueless pot calling the kettle... sheesh.
In case you have not realized, you get modded troll because you have no real opinion.
Of course he has a real opinion. You may not agree with him, but his opinion is stated clearly in his post. He disagrees with the notion of copyright and doesn't think it's a useful idea. That's a perfectly respectable opinion, whether you agree with him or not.
Back up your retorhic with a pursuasive argument and you may finally be taken seriously
Learn to spell and people might begin to assume that you're something other than a 14 year old schoolboy living in his mother's basement.
This won't happen - Microsoft have already banned the distribution of their patches on CD
Fortunately they've now got this really useful system whereby they email you important security patches.
If I hadn't installed all of those useful security patches that Microsoft's team of crack C-class programmers have been e-mailing me, why, who knows, my box would probably be 0wn3d by some tiny l33t uber-hacker by now?
As it is, the constant activity from the light on my cable modem reminds me on an ongoing basis that we are continuously fighting off attempts from evil hax0rz to get control of my computer. Fortunately, thanks to the reliability of Microsoft's email security patch programme, those poor skript kiddies don't stand a cat 5 cable in wireless networking hell's chance.
Oh and by the way. I don't want any of you trolls trying to tell me that Microsoft don't email security patches. Bill Gates signed the emails personally, and there's no way that Bill would lie to me. The money that he owes me for forwarding those emails on last year is just a little late is all...
Solution: remember to use the preview button before posting.
Oh OK. I'm afraid I never watched anything past the original series.
I enjoyed the one about the Tribbles though.
Or do you just argue that any site with popups dosn't deserve your time.
That would be my position. If foolish web designers are so clueless that they are going to design features that share similar characteristics to advertisements, then I've got no desire to see the stuff that they want to show me.
that EVERYONE knows CleverNickName is Wil Wheaton
Who's Wil Wheaton? Is he famous or something?
Except that people ARE ponying up to buy shares (and float loans) at these ridiculous prices.
People? Or investment firms? I suspect that most of the people who are buying SCO stock are doing so with other people's money.
So you can kiss your pension goodbye for a start.
Possibly similar to polishing the Piaget or burnishing the Breitling?
Which is almost as bizzare as talking to yourself.
THey're pissed cuz they have to spend 3 hours combing serial generator web sites looking for the new crack.
Not at all. I've always found that the thoughtful distributors of warez via p2p invariably take the trouble to package the serial number or generator along with the app.
Why would anyone in their right mind sign over a license to anyone that was not revocable?
For money, of course. If the price is right, most things are for sale.
And I'm pretty sure ATT or whoever sold IBM their license before it was as clear as it is today that the IP in an OS can be a license to print money. I mean, how much do you suppose an irrevocable licence to CP/M is worth today? Twopence? Threepence?
I doubt it. Just somebody who understands the concept of proportionality in jurisprudence.
Unfortunately, if recent history is anything to go by, the missile would hit everyone *except* the spammers.
He doesn't seem to be here at the moment, so I'll have to do my Overly Critical Guy impression:
<Overly Critical Guy>
You slashbots are all hypocritical linux-loving morons. You've got no insight at all into how intelligent this copy protection scheme is. Just because some student hacker says that it can be bypassed by holding down the shift key, that doesn't actually mean it's true.
Why don't you go out and buy a copy of the CD and see for yourself instead of believing everything you read here on Slashdot?
</Overly Critical Guy>
This student probably won't see any prison time. But he broke the law.
Actually, that's something that's highly debateable. Leaving aside for a moment the fact that everyone is still innocent until proven guilty, if this stupid company actually do bring a case, it's hard to see what law he actually broke.
He didn't reverse engineer the software. He didn't distribute anyone else's intellectual property. Effectively, all he did was said 'you can copy these CD's by holding down the shift key.
IANAL, but legally, I don't see how that's any different to telling people that you can copy an unprotected CD (which this effectively is) by running a copy of Nero Burning Rom.
But perhaps you believe that's a breach of the DCMA as well?