It's business and Microsoft owes it to their employees and above all it's shareholders to see to their interest first, even if it means fucking someone over like this...
This is bunk. As a long term investor, I pay attention to the ethics of the companies I invest in. Poor business ethics are a large part of the reason for the mess we're in. Eventually, ethical slip ups like this come home to roost. People wise up and learn not to trust frequent offenders.
I checked the second link as well. You can go ahead and download the software, but it does NOT include a license! I've spent some years in the Microsoft System Builder program and have some familiarity with the program requirements and what is required to stay legal. There are some gray areas, and some really strange licensing requirements that put SMBs in a bit of a difficult spot. MS Office Home and Student is available from Newegg for about the price shown in your link and it can be installed on 3 computers! It says right in the license that commercial use is a violation of the terms. No doubt, a small business that has no disgruntled employees can go cheap and stay under the radar. As a business grows, this is more difficult and the licensing requirements and associated costs must be considered. It is obvious that you are not taking them fully into account, or perhaps are unfamiliar with the terms/requirements. I do advise folks to consider standardizing on OO unless their requirements suggest this will not do. Have any of the folks you've advised been through a BSA audit? We did a trial audit using a form/checklist that guided us through the process. It was a real eye-opener that didn't make us rush out and buy the site licenses. We simply moved to Open Office for all the users/computers that did not require MS Office.
You do realize that your first link was to an academic version. This is not legal to use for commercial purposes. You might as well pirate it as pay $109 and use it in a SMB. You're NOT legal either way!
I've seen that your posts repeatedly fail to see the most important feature of free software, that being its "free as in speach" nature, more so than its being "free as in beer". Google these for more discussion.
Being able to examine and alter code is what attracts the volunteer developers AND the large companies who see the value of drawing from the well, pooling their efforts with other companies and often adding back to same well.
The founding fathers were certainly interested in free speach, and THAT is what the FSF and the free software movement are fundamentally about, even though many in this forum are apparently ignorant about that fact. For this reason, I miss the early Slashdot period.
Regarding the low rate of Linux adoption, I don't get what you mean. It is used everywhere, and the world would literally grind to a halt if a small percentage of devices running GNU/Linux were shut down.
There are plenty of senior citizens living on fixed incomes in rural areas who cannot afford satellite or cable (if it were available). They are using free TV. They've been watching free TV for 50 years. Your attitude sucks.
No, that is not what I meant. When the constitutional protections are fully in place, you can't invade my home or listen to my phone conversations without a warrant. What is a warrant, if not a limited sacrifice of the right to privacy? Constitutional protections (ideally) still apply, but the state and its law abiding citizens have an interest in convicting the guilty and mitigating the danger posed to society. I am certainly not favoring warrantless wiretapping or searches of homes. I agree that the threat of terrorism in the homeland is overblown. Nevertheless, probable cause has a legal definition that properly applied allows for some balance between rights of accused parties and the state's/citizen's mutual interest in pursuit of the guilty.
You and the parent poster have both gone off the deep end, just at opposite ends. If you are certain that someone is "doing wrong", i.e. you have probable cause, they are forfeiting certain of their rights. The duty to protect them stops when they are a threat to other, innocent parties. You betray your absolutistism when you say, "The government has always been a more clear and present danger to the people than any real-world terrorist threat." Really? Always?
Then the parent poster has the audacity to say, "Wether they found any substantiating evidence of this or not doesn't matter. What matters is they were following a lead and they had to react quickly." When and where does this approach stop? There are no safeguards, no civil liberties at all if the government merely suspects something.
I consider myself kind of a "UFO skeptic", yet not willing to accept that ALL of it is bogus either.
You're not a very good skeptic, are you? Find something else to consider yourself.
Someone who refuses to maintain an open mind, and has no regard for evidence that threatens their personal beliefs, cannot really glory in being a skeptic. They are merely another kind of dogmatist, akin to young earth creationists.
This is meaningless analysis without knowing the exact topology of the network in question. A carrier's access points just might be connected with carrier provided ethernet POPs, for all you know. Then too, the antenna site is likely sectorized, with the possibility of supporting huge numbers of users. The size of the pipe to the house, whether wireless, DSL or Cable is a nearly meaningless stat.
You do realize there are more than two racial groups in California don't you? With Asians, Caucasians and Blacks also present in significant numbers, 35.9% could very easily be "the largest racial group".
Worse, this overreaction is exactly what creationists will use to prove that evolution is more like a religion than not, that it is the scientists who have closed minds. It plays into their hands like you wouldn't believe. Witness Ben Stein's recent production, "Expelled".
Maybe just program it the best you can and stop relying on dishonest gimmicks? If it's a good operating system, people will use it, and they'll try to get their friends and family to use it.
History shows that this is not necessarily how things work. Remember OS/2 and Windows 3.0? I'd like to think things are changing, but how computers are sold, namely what operating systems are preloaded, is a big part of the picture for Linux.
Maybe that's just all right. I realize many Linux geeks look down on Ubuntu because they secretely loathe its popularity and appeal to broader audiences. I like the fact that I have more freedom (and power) with the OS than with anything else going. Furthermore, I like to think of myself as a world citizen, not a mindless disciple of messiah Jobs.
How is this an issue with Linux... and not Rhyme? It seems to me that it would be the application programmer's responsibility to make their program with version x of Linux. There is no other sensible way.
$79 is not $200. OEMs do pay something for Vista. Let's say it's $40. Ridiculously low, but it works for my arguement. My point is that MS still bargains with OEMs by offering Vista for extra low prices in exchange for concessions that help maintain MS's market position. These concessions likely vary, depending upon the bargaining power of the OEM. They may run the gamut from an agreement not to offer MS alternatives period, to concessions about how those alternatives are marketed. I'm not pulling this scenario from the air. In the past, MS has demanded from OEMs a OS license fee for every PC sold, regardless of whether their software was installed.
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It's business and Microsoft owes it to their employees and above all it's shareholders to see to their interest first, even if it means fucking someone over like this...
This is bunk. As a long term investor, I pay attention to the ethics of the companies I invest in. Poor business ethics are a large part of the reason for the mess we're in. Eventually, ethical slip ups like this come home to roost. People wise up and learn not to trust frequent offenders.
I checked the second link as well. You can go ahead and download the software, but it does NOT include a license! I've spent some years in the Microsoft System Builder program and have some familiarity with the program requirements and what is required to stay legal. There are some gray areas, and some really strange licensing requirements that put SMBs in a bit of a difficult spot. MS Office Home and Student is available from Newegg for about the price shown in your link and it can be installed on 3 computers! It says right in the license that commercial use is a violation of the terms. No doubt, a small business that has no disgruntled employees can go cheap and stay under the radar. As a business grows, this is more difficult and the licensing requirements and associated costs must be considered. It is obvious that you are not taking them fully into account, or perhaps are unfamiliar with the terms/requirements. I do advise folks to consider standardizing on OO unless their requirements suggest this will not do. Have any of the folks you've advised been through a BSA audit? We did a trial audit using a form/checklist that guided us through the process. It was a real eye-opener that didn't make us rush out and buy the site licenses. We simply moved to Open Office for all the users/computers that did not require MS Office.
Look in the Windows folder of a computer running XP. Me thinks you will see a folder "/prefetch" and that it is used just as the name suggests.
You do realize that your first link was to an academic version. This is not legal to use for commercial purposes. You might as well pirate it as pay $109 and use it in a SMB. You're NOT legal either way!
I've seen that your posts repeatedly fail to see the most important feature of free software, that being its "free as in speach" nature, more so than its being "free as in beer". Google these for more discussion.
Being able to examine and alter code is what attracts the volunteer developers AND the large companies who see the value of drawing from the well, pooling their efforts with other companies and often adding back to same well.
The founding fathers were certainly interested in free speach, and THAT is what the FSF and the free software movement are fundamentally about, even though many in this forum are apparently ignorant about that fact. For this reason, I miss the early Slashdot period.
Regarding the low rate of Linux adoption, I don't get what you mean. It is used everywhere, and the world would literally grind to a halt if a small percentage of devices running GNU/Linux were shut down.
Largemouth Bass will eat ducklings. http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/snapshots/fish/largemouthbass.html
There are plenty of senior citizens living on fixed incomes in rural areas who cannot afford satellite or cable (if it were available). They are using free TV. They've been watching free TV for 50 years. Your attitude sucks.
When the informatin is "loosed", where does it run off to? Should we have some mechanism in place to catch it before it gets in the wrong hands?
No, that is not what I meant. When the constitutional protections are fully in place, you can't invade my home or listen to my phone conversations without a warrant. What is a warrant, if not a limited sacrifice of the right to privacy? Constitutional protections (ideally) still apply, but the state and its law abiding citizens have an interest in convicting the guilty and mitigating the danger posed to society. I am certainly not favoring warrantless wiretapping or searches of homes. I agree that the threat of terrorism in the homeland is overblown. Nevertheless, probable cause has a legal definition that properly applied allows for some balance between rights of accused parties and the state's/citizen's mutual interest in pursuit of the guilty.
You and the parent poster have both gone off the deep end, just at opposite ends. If you are certain that someone is "doing wrong", i.e. you have probable cause, they are forfeiting certain of their rights. The duty to protect them stops when they are a threat to other, innocent parties. You betray your absolutistism when you say, "The government has always been a more clear and present danger to the people than any real-world terrorist threat." Really? Always?
Then the parent poster has the audacity to say, "Wether they found any substantiating evidence of this or not doesn't matter. What matters is they were following a lead and they had to react quickly." When and where does this approach stop? There are no safeguards, no civil liberties at all if the government merely suspects something.
Would you like to wager on the iPhone vs. "all android phones combined" sales volume?
But... it only has to be decoded once, then stored in RAM.
I consider myself kind of a "UFO skeptic", yet not willing to accept that ALL of it is bogus either.
Someone who refuses to maintain an open mind, and has no regard for evidence that threatens their personal beliefs, cannot really glory in being a skeptic. They are merely another kind of dogmatist, akin to young earth creationists.
And "assuming facts not in evidence" is exactly what I was pointing out as a fault of the OP.
This is meaningless analysis without knowing the exact topology of the network in question. A carrier's access points just might be connected with carrier provided ethernet POPs, for all you know. Then too, the antenna site is likely sectorized, with the possibility of supporting huge numbers of users. The size of the pipe to the house, whether wireless, DSL or Cable is a nearly meaningless stat.
Adopting it as a standard and taking it over and subverting the standard are two different things...
You do realize there are more than two racial groups in California don't you? With Asians, Caucasians and Blacks also present in significant numbers, 35.9% could very easily be "the largest racial group".
Worse, this overreaction is exactly what creationists will use to prove that evolution is more like a religion than not, that it is the scientists who have closed minds. It plays into their hands like you wouldn't believe. Witness Ben Stein's recent production, "Expelled".
Maybe just program it the best you can and stop relying on dishonest gimmicks? If it's a good operating system, people will use it, and they'll try to get their friends and family to use it.
History shows that this is not necessarily how things work. Remember OS/2 and Windows 3.0? I'd like to think things are changing, but how computers are sold, namely what operating systems are preloaded, is a big part of the picture for Linux.
"Physics, It's not just a good idea.
But you can do electrolysis in a properly designed system with braking energy.
"Ubuntu sounds multicultural and foreign..."
Maybe that's just all right. I realize many Linux geeks look down on Ubuntu because they secretely loathe its popularity and appeal to broader audiences. I like the fact that I have more freedom (and power) with the OS than with anything else going. Furthermore, I like to think of myself as a world citizen, not a mindless disciple of messiah Jobs.
Ubuntu is not Apple. Thankfully.
How is this an issue with Linux... and not Rhyme? It seems to me that it would be the application programmer's responsibility to make their program with version x of Linux. There is no other sensible way.
I'll vouch for this one too. I've had one for years for presentations/demonstrations. Here's a link: Amazon.com
I think the PP is quite correct. There are sheep in both political camps, so I'm not sure quite why you say he lost you with the comment.
$79 is not $200. OEMs do pay something for Vista. Let's say it's $40. Ridiculously low, but it works for my arguement. My point is that MS still bargains with OEMs by offering Vista for extra low prices in exchange for concessions that help maintain MS's market position. These concessions likely vary, depending upon the bargaining power of the OEM. They may run the gamut from an agreement not to offer MS alternatives period, to concessions about how those alternatives are marketed. I'm not pulling this scenario from the air. In the past, MS has demanded from OEMs a OS license fee for every PC sold, regardless of whether their software was installed.