Not automated, but point and click dumb. It's like VB without the hard parts. Sure, it's expressive and slow, but it's worth it to replace all those middle class salaries...
Because corporations got tired of having a training budget. The reason you can't compete with India is that they can live for peanuts while they're being trained. You can't do that because the US lacks their massive underclass, unpaid overtime and complete absence of environmental and worker safety laws.
That's a clever dodge. Like those asshats who say they want to cut medicare for people under 60 so they don't lose votes from people on it. It's child's play to lower the prevailing wage. And you can chip away at how much more until it doesn't matter. Want to do business in America? Hire Americans. You can leave, but you don't get to take the ball.
Good job, you've just contributed to the working class' rampant infighting. The ruling class would give you a good star of they weren't so busy spending all your productivity gains from the last 40 years on their third summer home and their second gulf stream jet.
But I'm starting to see it done in fairly high skill (sys admin, programming, etc) jobs. I know it's popular to look down on blue collar folks and all, but when they're done with them they're coming for you next. The dragon can eat the hobbit in one gulp and you didn't get very far when you tripped him...
and that's why everyone in the Auto industry is shitting themselves right now. They're going to actually be regulated for real for the first time in ages (maybe forever). Seems like every other week another batch of cars are discovered cheating.
Here in America we've based our entire quality of life on a social contract between employer and employee. If that breaks down then everything goes to shit. We're also a country whose legal system operates on presidence and not logic or reason. So once Amazon gets away with shirking their social and legal obligations to employees everyone else follows suit. The real world just isn't as simple as you want it to be...
Was never to save people from meth, it was to contain the damage to the poor communities. One of the byproducts of our drug war is that the poors keep their misery to themselves. If they start spilling over we toss then in jail. Meth broke that. You had desperate folks cooking it in middle class neighborhoods. Making it otc restored the balance and put the drug way back where it belonged: in poor neighborhoods
Nope, no way automation is going to eliminate any jobs, and even if it were (which it's not) we can just lower pay to compensate and prices will fall until the lower pay has equal buying power, right?
someone could be in my kitchen, digitally making themselves a grilled cheese sandwich with neither my knowledge or consent. And don't say it's just my teenager, I can't get her to step foot in a kitchen.
Burden the public schools with standardized tests, cut funding and then privatize. Pocket billions in a huge rent seeking scheme. As an added bonus further undermine people's faith in govt so you can cut back on social services and pocket that money too
I beloved believe it's called "Starve the Beast". Which sounds good until you realize that beast was a watchdog.
and it gets countered with "who are you to decide what gets redistributed?". That plus the old standby of "somebody in Washington telling me how to live my life"
Though I like "You only run out when everyone stops earning". Shifts the argument towards job creation and investment.
because you again and again try to ignore the real issues by misdirecting the conversation. But the good people of/. are not fooled by the likes of you. They see through you. Which is why I was modded up where you were not. They see you for what you are. A troll.
and throw this out there: Gov't spending on basic research is basically socialism, and the trouble with socialism is "Sooner or later you run out of Other People's Money".
Please shoot me down here. I've never come up with a good answer to the above that wasn't so long winded I lost anyone I was talking to...
was the vice presidential debate where Ryan started going off about how we had to cut back on aid for the poor because, gosh darn, we couldn't afford it, and then Joe Biden pulled out a letter where Ryan begged for aid for his state:P.
While I'm on/. and all, what does the/. community think is the answer to the phrase "Sooner or later you run out of other people's money"...? I can list out a hundred reasons why this is nonsense but none of them have the impact, gut feeling and just plain truthiness of that phrase.
One thing I do know is that if you let the gov't spend a dollar it comes back to you eventually when that dollar circulates. Kinda like those "prosperity gospel" folks but with a bit more actually working and a bit less taking the Lords name in vain:). But that idea might be a little to complex to provide a bumper sticker/gut reaction answer to the OPM problem.
who's this for? By the sound of it It's going to be so expensive that if I could afford to take it I'd just take a plane instead. Maybe if we didn't all have cars, but again if you can afford to ride this you can afford a car, and you're probably going to prefer that. If it's just pork I'm surprised it made it though.
The summary doesn't say it, but the issue here is fracking. This talk of "National Security" is a diversion from that. They're shutting down wells near a storage site because of fear of earthquakes. That should be national news and cause a complete re-evaluation of the dangers of fracking. It's similar to how Wall Street executives spend billions lobbying against climate change while publicly acknowledging it in their SEC filings. It's about carefully controlling a narrative.
I hate to admit it but I can't complain too much. I live in a major city. Fracking doesn't effect me. My drinking water's clean and it doesn't hurt my property values. Meanwhile if I adjust for inflation gas is as cheap as it was when I was in high school. That's the only thing that's kept my head above water inflation wise. I know I'm being a NIMBY, and I should probably do something about it, but hell, what am I suppose to do? What I really wish is we could get the "Save the Whales and the Rain forests" idiots to shut up long enough to talk about environmental issues that impact us immediately. Like smog that causes asthma.
did you not understand? When everyone around you is making choices you have no control over (ending tariffs, eliminating collective bargaining rights, limiting access to voting machines for the poor, controlling your access to media, etc, etc) how the hell are you suppose to make a real choice?
Yes, he ought to. We're well on our way to building robots to replace him. If it hasn't happened now it will soon. 10, 20 years tops. And a good chunk of what's holding it back is the 1%ers are worried if they do it too fast then they won't be able to contain the social unrest.
Nice try misdirecting things. It doesn't change the fact that we're in a global race to the bottom with you and your ilk hanging onto the bull. Maybe you'll get lucky and be one of the last ones trampled to death. Good luck.
Can we please get away from this cult of work? Are the people who die in building collapses in Indonesia better off because they have a job? What about the 2 million folks who applied for 300 gov't jobs in India? If people don't need to work why should they? You and your "other people's money" are busy giving everything to the 1%ers while they laugh at you all the way to the bank.
Put another way: Is America the Greatest Country on Earth? If so, why can Germany and Sweden feed their poor and not us?
Memory and problem solving abilities are. You can make up for a lack of those using the Internet, but you'll still run into the old Dunning Kruger effect at some point. What you're doing is mistaking Cleverness for raw Intelligence. In D&D terms it's your Wisdom stat vs your INT.
ok, so the article mentions and focuses on the "Don't call 911" implying that Amazon has something to hide there. It's almost instantly debunked. EMTs need security to tell them where to go on a big campus.
Now nobody is discussing the more important issue of abusing temp workers status to get out of paying for healthcare and unemployment benefits (plus all the extra productivity you get by dangling the carrot of full time employment before your temps). Maybe a few do and then fall back on the "But He Made more than minimum wage" blather to justify it, ignoring that the extra $3.50/hr over min-wage they were paying didn't come close to covering the benefits; and also ignoring that entry level jobs like this paid about $12/hr in the 90s with benefits and that wages for workers have plummeted in 20 years.
Nope, we'll ignore all that so we can pat ourselves on the back because we figured out one of the points the article makes is silly. It's amazing how easy it is to derail talk of worker's rights with a few well placed talking points:(...
comedians don't really improve or try out material. I forget who but someone pointed out that there's too much risk of somebody with a camera recording them bombing one night and it killing their careers. It's why comedy is getting so stale. There's no vaudeville or stand up circuit for them to take risks with. There's nowhere for them to weed out the c and b material from the a stuff.
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but the one thing you don't do is outsource your ruling class. Unlike the working class, they take care of their own...
Not automated, but point and click dumb. It's like VB without the hard parts. Sure, it's expressive and slow, but it's worth it to replace all those middle class salaries...
Because corporations got tired of having a training budget. The reason you can't compete with India is that they can live for peanuts while they're being trained. You can't do that because the US lacks their massive underclass, unpaid overtime and complete absence of environmental and worker safety laws.
That's a clever dodge. Like those asshats who say they want to cut medicare for people under 60 so they don't lose votes from people on it. It's child's play to lower the prevailing wage. And you can chip away at how much more until it doesn't matter. Want to do business in America? Hire Americans. You can leave, but you don't get to take the ball.
Good job, you've just contributed to the working class' rampant infighting. The ruling class would give you a good star of they weren't so busy spending all your productivity gains from the last 40 years on their third summer home and their second gulf stream jet.
But I'm starting to see it done in fairly high skill (sys admin, programming, etc) jobs. I know it's popular to look down on blue collar folks and all, but when they're done with them they're coming for you next. The dragon can eat the hobbit in one gulp and you didn't get very far when you tripped him...
and that's why everyone in the Auto industry is shitting themselves right now. They're going to actually be regulated for real for the first time in ages (maybe forever). Seems like every other week another batch of cars are discovered cheating.
Here in America we've based our entire quality of life on a social contract between employer and employee. If that breaks down then everything goes to shit. We're also a country whose legal system operates on presidence and not logic or reason. So once Amazon gets away with shirking their social and legal obligations to employees everyone else follows suit. The real world just isn't as simple as you want it to be...
In America. Reagan and Clinton cut most of it. There's unemployment, but businesses got wise to that and hire everybody as contractors.
Was never to save people from meth, it was to contain the damage to the poor communities. One of the byproducts of our drug war is that the poors keep their misery to themselves. If they start spilling over we toss then in jail. Meth broke that. You had desperate folks cooking it in middle class neighborhoods. Making it otc restored the balance and put the drug way back where it belonged: in poor neighborhoods
Nope, no way automation is going to eliminate any jobs, and even if it were (which it's not) we can just lower pay to compensate and prices will fall until the lower pay has equal buying power, right?
someone could be in my kitchen, digitally making themselves a grilled cheese sandwich with neither my knowledge or consent. And don't say it's just my teenager, I can't get her to step foot in a kitchen.
Burden the public schools with standardized tests, cut funding and then privatize. Pocket billions in a huge rent seeking scheme. As an added bonus further undermine people's faith in govt so you can cut back on social services and pocket that money too I beloved believe it's called "Starve the Beast". Which sounds good until you realize that beast was a watchdog.
and it gets countered with "who are you to decide what gets redistributed?". That plus the old standby of "somebody in Washington telling me how to live my life"
Though I like "You only run out when everyone stops earning". Shifts the argument towards job creation and investment.
because you again and again try to ignore the real issues by misdirecting the conversation. But the good people of /. are not fooled by the likes of you. They see through you. Which is why I was modded up where you were not. They see you for what you are. A troll.
and throw this out there: Gov't spending on basic research is basically socialism, and the trouble with socialism is "Sooner or later you run out of Other People's Money".
Please shoot me down here. I've never come up with a good answer to the above that wasn't so long winded I lost anyone I was talking to...
was the vice presidential debate where Ryan started going off about how we had to cut back on aid for the poor because, gosh darn, we couldn't afford it, and then Joe Biden pulled out a letter where Ryan begged for aid for his state :P.
/. and all, what does the /. community think is the answer to the phrase "Sooner or later you run out of other people's money"...? I can list out a hundred reasons why this is nonsense but none of them have the impact, gut feeling and just plain truthiness of that phrase.
:). But that idea might be a little to complex to provide a bumper sticker/gut reaction answer to the OPM problem.
While I'm on
One thing I do know is that if you let the gov't spend a dollar it comes back to you eventually when that dollar circulates. Kinda like those "prosperity gospel" folks but with a bit more actually working and a bit less taking the Lords name in vain
who's this for? By the sound of it It's going to be so expensive that if I could afford to take it I'd just take a plane instead. Maybe if we didn't all have cars, but again if you can afford to ride this you can afford a car, and you're probably going to prefer that. If it's just pork I'm surprised it made it though.
it inspires nothing. It's a device wholly build around consumption of existing content and not creation.
Now, a $50 general purpose computer? That'll inspire something.
The summary doesn't say it, but the issue here is fracking. This talk of "National Security" is a diversion from that. They're shutting down wells near a storage site because of fear of earthquakes. That should be national news and cause a complete re-evaluation of the dangers of fracking. It's similar to how Wall Street executives spend billions lobbying against climate change while publicly acknowledging it in their SEC filings. It's about carefully controlling a narrative.
I hate to admit it but I can't complain too much. I live in a major city. Fracking doesn't effect me. My drinking water's clean and it doesn't hurt my property values. Meanwhile if I adjust for inflation gas is as cheap as it was when I was in high school. That's the only thing that's kept my head above water inflation wise. I know I'm being a NIMBY, and I should probably do something about it, but hell, what am I suppose to do? What I really wish is we could get the "Save the Whales and the Rain forests" idiots to shut up long enough to talk about environmental issues that impact us immediately. Like smog that causes asthma.
did you not understand? When everyone around you is making choices you have no control over (ending tariffs, eliminating collective bargaining rights, limiting access to voting machines for the poor, controlling your access to media, etc, etc) how the hell are you suppose to make a real choice?
Yes, he ought to. We're well on our way to building robots to replace him. If it hasn't happened now it will soon. 10, 20 years tops. And a good chunk of what's holding it back is the 1%ers are worried if they do it too fast then they won't be able to contain the social unrest.
Nice try misdirecting things. It doesn't change the fact that we're in a global race to the bottom with you and your ilk hanging onto the bull. Maybe you'll get lucky and be one of the last ones trampled to death. Good luck.
Can we please get away from this cult of work? Are the people who die in building collapses in Indonesia better off because they have a job? What about the 2 million folks who applied for 300 gov't jobs in India? If people don't need to work why should they? You and your "other people's money" are busy giving everything to the 1%ers while they laugh at you all the way to the bank.
Put another way: Is America the Greatest Country on Earth? If so, why can Germany and Sweden feed their poor and not us?
Memory and problem solving abilities are. You can make up for a lack of those using the Internet, but you'll still run into the old Dunning Kruger effect at some point. What you're doing is mistaking Cleverness for raw Intelligence. In D&D terms it's your Wisdom stat vs your INT.
ok, so the article mentions and focuses on the "Don't call 911" implying that Amazon has something to hide there. It's almost instantly debunked. EMTs need security to tell them where to go on a big campus.
:(...
Now nobody is discussing the more important issue of abusing temp workers status to get out of paying for healthcare and unemployment benefits (plus all the extra productivity you get by dangling the carrot of full time employment before your temps). Maybe a few do and then fall back on the "But He Made more than minimum wage" blather to justify it, ignoring that the extra $3.50/hr over min-wage they were paying didn't come close to covering the benefits; and also ignoring that entry level jobs like this paid about $12/hr in the 90s with benefits and that wages for workers have plummeted in 20 years.
Nope, we'll ignore all that so we can pat ourselves on the back because we figured out one of the points the article makes is silly. It's amazing how easy it is to derail talk of worker's rights with a few well placed talking points
comedians don't really improve or try out material. I forget who but someone pointed out that there's too much risk of somebody with a camera recording them bombing one night and it killing their careers. It's why comedy is getting so stale. There's no vaudeville or stand up circuit for them to take risks with. There's nowhere for them to weed out the c and b material from the a stuff.