Look at how Everything2 does it. They use an XP system, and don't have messy edit wars. Users learn to trust those with high XP, and it encourages real factual content or creative stuff (poems, stories, etc).
When did 10,000 people send 20 GBP each? The sheer volume would be easily noticeable, and getting that kind of word out couldn't be kept secret, and you can't conspire with 10,000 people.
Harry Carey: Hey! So they shot the shuttle Discovery up into space!
Linda Ham (NASA flight director): Yes.
Harry Carey: Is that thing ever coming back?
Linda Ham: Uh, it landed a week ago.
Harry Carey: How many survivors?
Linda Ham: Everyone survived, Harry.
Harry Carey: Oh. That's a relief. [ long pause ] Hey, Linda! What was it like inventing the space shuttle?
Linda Ham: Uh.. I didn't invent the shuttle.
Harry Carey: Well, I wonder, whoever did, made a lot of money! And then, I bet he tried to invent something else. But it wasn't as good. Life can sometimes turn your greatest successes into your most crushing defeats!
Linda Ham: [ not sure how to respond ] Yeah.. I guess that's right..
Harry Carey: Linda Ham! Linda Ham! Linda Ham! Does your name ever make you hungry?
Linda Ham: No. No.
Harry Carey: Well, it makes me hungry! One time, I named a sandwich "Linda". It was a beautiful sandwich! And guess what kind of sandwich it was.
Linda Ham: I don't know. Ham?
Harry Carey: I guess. I don't know. Hey, Linda! When are we finally going to get over to Mars?
Linda Ham: Well, there is a manned expedition being discussed..
Harry Carey: No! I mean you and me! We could make an evening of it. We'll head over to Mars, and I'll bring my sandwich "Linda". And we can make sloppy Martian love in the back of my dunebuggy. So, what do you say? Is it a date? It's a simple question: Do you want to go to Mars with a dead guy and a sandwich? Yes or no?
Linda Ham: Uh.. no..
Harry Carey: Yeah, you're right.. it probably wouldn't work out. But it doesn't hurt to be a dreamer! If we didn't dream, we wouldn't have the space shuttle.
Linda Ham: That's right, Harry. That's a very good point.
Harry Carey: Also, if we didn't dream, our brains would devour themselves, in madness and paranoia. The Viet Cong knew that. That's why they used sleep deprivation as a form of torture! [ long drawn-out pause ] Anyway, that's all the time we have! Hey! Join us next week at nine o'clock Eastern time, and watch me eat an entire planet! [ stagehand whispers in Harry's ear ] Oh! Thanks, Pete! That's actually eight o'clock Eastern time. I'm still going to eat a planet! See you then! Cubs win! Cubs win! [ fade out ]
Enough with your trying to ban circumcision already. Did you read their "government response" page? Everyone laughed them off as they should. I support circumcision, better as babies then when they become adults (and get them anyway).
Well, that's awful and it's a clear sin, with no room for doubt. Forcible conversion is ruled a sin unanimously by the Muslim body of scholars. Islam is about sincerity, it's the name of one of the chapters of the Quran, forcible conversion is never sincere, obviously.
Fox News reporter eh? They're so biased to begin with, I wonder if the reporters concocted the story, but anyway, I'll take it at face value and say that whoever forced them was clearly NOT following Islam. Ask ANY shaykh or Mufti, the answer is the same, thats clearly unambiguously stated in the Quran directly as being haram (forbidden).
You gotta be kidding me. The US State department lists South and Central America as the continent with the highest rate of terrorism, with the Middle East in third place. Have you forgotten the IRA? ETA? Tamil Tigers? FARC? The MRTA? Aum Shinrikyo? Japanese Red Army? Kach and Kahane Chai? National Liberation Army (ELN) of Columbia? Revolutionary Organization 17 November of Greece? Shining Path? Do I need to list more?
Christianity has nothing to do with these organizations, the same with Islam. Most are secular anyway, like the PKK. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a much more violent group than Arafat's Fateh, was led by Christian George Habash.
What an impressive amount of FUD you threw my way. You're wrong, plain and simple. Untangling this will take a few minutes, however, since your sources twisted the Quran to try and fit their ideas.
""Then when the Sacred Months have passed, then kill the Mushrikoon (idolaters, polytheists)...". (Quran 9:5)"
This verse is addressed to the Muslims of Medina under attack by the polytheist Meccans, and is referring to fighting them back. You're trying to take a 1400 year old battle and apply it to today in an incorrect manner. The Quran also forbids murder and says "if they make peace, you make peace." It also commands being fair to your neighbor, and that the closest in faith are Christians (5:82). The Quran also states that God commands peace as the default.
Next, lying is usually a tremendous sin in Islam. The only time you are permitted to lie is on the Battlefield as a trick or feint, or when someone asks you about your religion and you could be killed for saying you're a Muslim. Your source is incorrect (and amazingly biased), and is twisting the Prophet's (pbuh) quote, whose actual meaning was that lying is permissible in certain circumstances to preserve friendships or relationships (like telling your wife she doesn't look fat when she is)
Muslims are NOT silent when terrorism happens. Worldwide Muslim leaders condemn terrorism.Loudly.All the time. For example, my community mosque puts out condemnation emails every time something minor happens. Muslims condemn terrorism all the time, we're not to blame if CNN ignores these speeches that are given and reported in Muslim news sources.
I'm kinda tired of people accusing Muslims of being silent, when we're not. Let me give you a better example, the world thinks Americans are silent about Abu Ghraib. Where were the Americans protesting in the streets? The general feeling was disgust at the acts, but it wasn't reported and the world thinks Americans are as bad as Muslims.
Actually, the US State department for years has listed South America as the highest incidence of terrorism; cartels, revolutionary groups, separatists, etc. Isn't it odd we don't blame Christianity, the dominant religion of the continent, for the violence, but somehow Islam gets blamed for similar violence? It's a double standard.
If a Christian or Jewish teacher did that, people would shrug and say she didn't take her Zoloft or has mental issues. When a Muslim or Arab does that, you blame the religion. Did we learn NOTHING from Nuremberg, Germany?
Yeah, riiight. Why should we care about hearts and minds? Just treat all Arabs and Muslims like criminals. It worked so well for black people, right? or when Israel did that to Lebanese people.
Are you TRYING to alienate Arabs and Muslims? In America they're very well integrated. Arabs and Muslims WORK with the police; recruiting up and turning in suspicious people in their community. (The Lackawanna Six were turned in by other Muslims in the community). If you're trying to replicate Europe's problem over here in America, just keep on with that idea, you'll get lucky...
You have a good point. Perhaps, despite being disliked by much of the world, most don't really want to kill us, although you've made it clear that they could do so easily.
Christians are SAFER? Who ships the majority of America's drugs from South America? Who has a fanatical "Lord's Resistance Army" in Africa that kidnaps children and amputates feet and/or legs? Who invaded Bosnia and started "ethnic cleansing" including the death of 8,000 in one day (Srebrenica massacre)? Who led a holocaust? Who started a war with a sovereign nation in the middle east? Who has a camp openly in violation of human rights laws and geneva conventions? Who tortured innocent Muslims in Abu Ghraib?
Look, not everyone in a religion is practicing, but if you're going to blame everyone's religion instead of the individuals, then don't have a double-standard here. Ugh.
We got attacked on 9/11, according to Bin Laden, because we backed the Saudi dictatorship and had US troops near Mecca, and because we supported Israel and their war crimes. Zawahiri reportedly wanted to move 9/11 up to the Summer, because it would have demonstrated that it was in response to the Israeli massacre of Palestinians that summer (you don't remember?).
Muslims don't care if YOU are Muslim or not. Really, go drink alcohol and eat pork as much as you want, we don't care. Muslims don't believe in "Convert or die," there never was an islamic equivalent of the Spanish Inquisiton. The Quran forbids forcible conversion or threats to make people convert (Quran 2:256- "Let there be no compulsion in religion").
"Tiny differences"? You're kidding me. I prayed with Hanafis, Malikis, and Shiites in the same group even today, a few hours ago. Islam allows diversity, and if you're thinking of sectarian violence in Iraq, that's an unrelated political matter, the equivalent of Christian violence in Northern Ireland.
"This is contrary to Bush's claim that we hate freedom. Let him tell us why we did not strike Sweden, for example." -- Osama Bin Laden
The terrorists don't want to force people to become Muslim or die. (The Quran forbids that; "Let there Be no compulsion in Religion" (2:256)) Bin Laden was pretty clear in his goals, if you read his speeches. He wants the US out of Saudi Arabia and the Middle East, and the US to stop backing Israel. Good ideas that are widely supported, awful methods to try and achieve those goals.
And it was a slur that got Arab people mad. In 1983, could you make fun of blacks the same way? Jews? This film got mentioned in Jack Shaheen's book "Reel Bad Arabs" as one of the 900 movies that had an anti-Arab or anti-Muslim stereotype, although this was a minor one compared to the real stinkers (True Lies, Delta Force, Executive Decision, The Siege, etc.).
We aren't fighting a religion. What do you mean? Bush does his war on Iraq despite Christian leaders worldwide, including the Pope, condemning it. 9/11 was condemned by every Muslim leader worldwide except Saddam Hussein. Is the Bush administration alienating Muslims and making them think it IS a war against their religion? (like Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, Quran flushing and blowing up mosques) Yes, but its a mix of incompetance and neocons (the truth is more complicated).
I like Everything2 for the reason that it has XP. People learn to trust certain authors and there are more privileges at higher level, offering incentives to write more, and a voting system to encourage writing well.
Please, show me where in Bin Laden's speeches he said he attacked America beause some Americans drink alcohol or eat pork. (He doesn't, and was clear about why he attacked, reprehensible actions and all)
Proprietary? Apple loves open standards. Look at their Apache webservers, Jabber clients, open source Darwin and opensource Streaming server, etc. Sure, there's much more room for improvement, but look at how Microsoft is fighting OpenDocument standards and Apple released Kerberos code without an NDA (something Microsoft required).
Highlight the songs in the album, get info on them, and change the "Compilation" field to "Yes." Problem solved?
Look at how Everything2 does it. They use an XP system, and don't have messy edit wars. Users learn to trust those with high XP, and it encourages real factual content or creative stuff (poems, stories, etc).
Well, LEGOs would solve your problem right there. How many geeks grew up with Legos and got into DIY projects?
When did 10,000 people send 20 GBP each? The sheer volume would be easily noticeable, and getting that kind of word out couldn't be kept secret, and you can't conspire with 10,000 people.
Harry Carey: Hey! So they shot the shuttle Discovery up into space!
Linda Ham (NASA flight director): Yes.
Harry Carey: Is that thing ever coming back?
Linda Ham: Uh, it landed a week ago.
Harry Carey: How many survivors?
Linda Ham: Everyone survived, Harry.
Harry Carey: Oh. That's a relief. [ long pause ] Hey, Linda! What was it like inventing the space shuttle?
Linda Ham: Uh.. I didn't invent the shuttle.
Harry Carey: Well, I wonder, whoever did, made a lot of money! And then, I bet he tried to invent something else. But it wasn't as good. Life can sometimes turn your greatest successes into your most crushing defeats!
Linda Ham: [ not sure how to respond ] Yeah.. I guess that's right..
Harry Carey: Linda Ham! Linda Ham! Linda Ham! Does your name ever make you hungry?
Linda Ham: No. No.
Harry Carey: Well, it makes me hungry! One time, I named a sandwich "Linda". It was a beautiful sandwich! And guess what kind of sandwich it was.
Linda Ham: I don't know. Ham?
Harry Carey: I guess. I don't know. Hey, Linda! When are we finally going to get over to Mars?
Linda Ham: Well, there is a manned expedition being discussed..
Harry Carey: No! I mean you and me! We could make an evening of it. We'll head over to Mars, and I'll bring my sandwich "Linda". And we can make sloppy Martian love in the back of my dunebuggy. So, what do you say? Is it a date? It's a simple question: Do you want to go to Mars with a dead guy and a sandwich? Yes or no?
Linda Ham: Uh.. no..
Harry Carey: Yeah, you're right.. it probably wouldn't work out. But it doesn't hurt to be a dreamer! If we didn't dream, we wouldn't have the space shuttle.
Linda Ham: That's right, Harry. That's a very good point.
Harry Carey: Also, if we didn't dream, our brains would devour themselves, in madness and paranoia. The Viet Cong knew that. That's why they used sleep deprivation as a form of torture! [ long drawn-out pause ] Anyway, that's all the time we have! Hey! Join us next week at nine o'clock Eastern time, and watch me eat an entire planet! [ stagehand whispers in Harry's ear ] Oh! Thanks, Pete! That's actually eight o'clock Eastern time. I'm still going to eat a planet! See you then! Cubs win! Cubs win!
[ fade out ]
Enough with your trying to ban circumcision already. Did you read their "government response" page? Everyone laughed them off as they should. I support circumcision, better as babies then when they become adults (and get them anyway).
Well, that's awful and it's a clear sin, with no room for doubt. Forcible conversion is ruled a sin unanimously by the Muslim body of scholars. Islam is about sincerity, it's the name of one of the chapters of the Quran, forcible conversion is never sincere, obviously.
Fox News reporter eh? They're so biased to begin with, I wonder if the reporters concocted the story, but anyway, I'll take it at face value and say that whoever forced them was clearly NOT following Islam. Ask ANY shaykh or Mufti, the answer is the same, thats clearly unambiguously stated in the Quran directly as being haram (forbidden).
Christianity has nothing to do with these organizations, the same with Islam. Most are secular anyway, like the PKK. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a much more violent group than Arafat's Fateh, was led by Christian George Habash.
""Then when the Sacred Months have passed, then kill the Mushrikoon (idolaters, polytheists)...". (Quran 9:5)"
This verse is addressed to the Muslims of Medina under attack by the polytheist Meccans, and is referring to fighting them back. You're trying to take a 1400 year old battle and apply it to today in an incorrect manner. The Quran also forbids murder and says "if they make peace, you make peace." It also commands being fair to your neighbor, and that the closest in faith are Christians (5:82). The Quran also states that God commands peace as the default.
Next, lying is usually a tremendous sin in Islam. The only time you are permitted to lie is on the Battlefield as a trick or feint, or when someone asks you about your religion and you could be killed for saying you're a Muslim. Your source is incorrect (and amazingly biased), and is twisting the Prophet's (pbuh) quote, whose actual meaning was that lying is permissible in certain circumstances to preserve friendships or relationships (like telling your wife she doesn't look fat when she is)
Muslims are NOT silent when terrorism happens. Worldwide Muslim leaders condemn terrorism. Loudly. All the time. For example, my community mosque puts out condemnation emails every time something minor happens. Muslims condemn terrorism all the time, we're not to blame if CNN ignores these speeches that are given and reported in Muslim news sources.
I'm kinda tired of people accusing Muslims of being silent, when we're not. Let me give you a better example, the world thinks Americans are silent about Abu Ghraib. Where were the Americans protesting in the streets? The general feeling was disgust at the acts, but it wasn't reported and the world thinks Americans are as bad as Muslims.
Actually, the US State department for years has listed South America as the highest incidence of terrorism; cartels, revolutionary groups, separatists, etc. Isn't it odd we don't blame Christianity, the dominant religion of the continent, for the violence, but somehow Islam gets blamed for similar violence? It's a double standard.
Hear hear! You should have changed the last sentence to read: If America is so great, why don't other countries just give themselves to us?
If a Christian or Jewish teacher did that, people would shrug and say she didn't take her Zoloft or has mental issues. When a Muslim or Arab does that, you blame the religion. Did we learn NOTHING from Nuremberg, Germany?
Yeah, riiight. Why should we care about hearts and minds? Just treat all Arabs and Muslims like criminals. It worked so well for black people, right? or when Israel did that to Lebanese people.
Are you TRYING to alienate Arabs and Muslims? In America they're very well integrated. Arabs and Muslims WORK with the police; recruiting up and turning in suspicious people in their community. (The Lackawanna Six were turned in by other Muslims in the community). If you're trying to replicate Europe's problem over here in America, just keep on with that idea, you'll get lucky...
Hear hear! Look at how they allowed matches and lighters on planes, the smoking lobby is powerful...
You have a good point. Perhaps, despite being disliked by much of the world, most don't really want to kill us, although you've made it clear that they could do so easily.
Christians are SAFER? Who ships the majority of America's drugs from South America? Who has a fanatical "Lord's Resistance Army" in Africa that kidnaps children and amputates feet and/or legs? Who invaded Bosnia and started "ethnic cleansing" including the death of 8,000 in one day (Srebrenica massacre)? Who led a holocaust? Who started a war with a sovereign nation in the middle east? Who has a camp openly in violation of human rights laws and geneva conventions? Who tortured innocent Muslims in Abu Ghraib?
Look, not everyone in a religion is practicing, but if you're going to blame everyone's religion instead of the individuals, then don't have a double-standard here. Ugh.
We got attacked on 9/11, according to Bin Laden, because we backed the Saudi dictatorship and had US troops near Mecca, and because we supported Israel and their war crimes. Zawahiri reportedly wanted to move 9/11 up to the Summer, because it would have demonstrated that it was in response to the Israeli massacre of Palestinians that summer (you don't remember?).
Muslims don't care if YOU are Muslim or not. Really, go drink alcohol and eat pork as much as you want, we don't care. Muslims don't believe in "Convert or die," there never was an islamic equivalent of the Spanish Inquisiton. The Quran forbids forcible conversion or threats to make people convert (Quran 2:256- "Let there be no compulsion in religion").
"Tiny differences"? You're kidding me. I prayed with Hanafis, Malikis, and Shiites in the same group even today, a few hours ago. Islam allows diversity, and if you're thinking of sectarian violence in Iraq, that's an unrelated political matter, the equivalent of Christian violence in Northern Ireland.
"This is contrary to Bush's claim that we hate freedom. Let him tell us why we did not strike Sweden, for example." -- Osama Bin Laden
The terrorists don't want to force people to become Muslim or die. (The Quran forbids that; "Let there Be no compulsion in Religion" (2:256)) Bin Laden was pretty clear in his goals, if you read his speeches. He wants the US out of Saudi Arabia and the Middle East, and the US to stop backing Israel. Good ideas that are widely supported, awful methods to try and achieve those goals.
And it was a slur that got Arab people mad. In 1983, could you make fun of blacks the same way? Jews? This film got mentioned in Jack Shaheen's book "Reel Bad Arabs" as one of the 900 movies that had an anti-Arab or anti-Muslim stereotype, although this was a minor one compared to the real stinkers (True Lies, Delta Force, Executive Decision, The Siege, etc.).
Carbon Copy Cloner. So popular that even Apple Stores use it to ghost their machines regularly.
Please, show me where in Bin Laden's speeches he said he attacked America beause some Americans drink alcohol or eat pork. (He doesn't, and was clear about why he attacked, reprehensible actions and all)
Proprietary? Apple loves open standards. Look at their Apache webservers, Jabber clients, open source Darwin and opensource Streaming server, etc. Sure, there's much more room for improvement, but look at how Microsoft is fighting OpenDocument standards and Apple released Kerberos code without an NDA (something Microsoft required).