Yes, I understand that's what you have been trained to believe. Unfortunately, the understanding of the mind has not been what it should have been. It's even kind of obvious without any deep understanding. You tell someone to open the window whenever you touch your nose. Then when you touch your nose they do so. That, by itself, is very obvious a command telling the person to open the window, regardless what the "reason" you gave them (being cold, whatever). I can understand that you don't want to think you are "programming" people, as that's not such a nice thing. But alas, that's exactly what it is.
For a subject to follow an instruction he has to have a lack of responsibility on that subject. F.ex. you never see a person jump out of the window as he (usually) have a bit more responsibility then killing himself off like that. The problem with hypnotism is that it installs commands in the mind. The hypnotist does then not remove the first command, he installs a second command telling it to ignore the first. Subsequently whenever the first one is restimulated the subject will have this conflict going on. - Follow / Don't follow the command. Not really what you want to have going on, having urges that some hypnotist installed in your mind, for the rest of your life.
As a matter of priority, and importance, the IT dept is the mind of the organization. It tracks past, present and future activities. This makes the IT dept a direct junior to management, and above the rest of the organization. This also gives you more responsibility, and as a result you fall harder than a normal employee if you mess up. As a matter of importance, you are as important as you help others...
FUD!?! You are a troll! MySQL AB is sleeping with a devout Open Source enemy! And if that's OK with you maybe you won't mind helping me with some things if I hit on your girlfriend/wife? Maybe you'll help fixing my car after I try to run you over with it too?
I'm a Guardian ad Litem, and at least in Florida I'm not allowed to do anything except observe. I cannot recommend, suggest or direct any child or adult. What I can and do is give recommendations to the judge.
The judge I work for told me that if anyone gives me a hard time, they are giving HIM a hard time and to let him know immediately. In other words he's not at least interested in having anyone mess with his GAL's. I can see why the judge did not grant it.
Indeed a GAL is protected from lawsuits at least in Florida.
The RIAA is one hapless bunch who will run themselves out of business as soon as any viable solutions comes up.
Guess it just goes to show that not all are as "worldly" as life with the Internet suggests. It's a shame that we still have to see these kinds of attitudes walking around.
The only good thing about it is it's very obvious when you run into it, so you know with whom you are talking to.
Today I read an article by Tom Yager, that frankly surprised me. As the president of a VoIP provider I have to keep my head above the water and make sure we are sailing in the right direction. I figured that a managing editor has plenty of "hands on" to understand my view.
Some 35 years ago when I ventured into computers we did not have much in terms of eye candy. One worked with configuration files and with the birth of Unix it still got more so. It offered a practical GUI, but eye candy was not high on the list.
Then Windows came along. It was, to some of us, a playground for GUI developers. Not that a GUI is bad at all, but under Windows the efficiency we seek was not there. Over the years Windows has improved, but rather than seeking the best path for users it only seeked the best short term path for Microsoft.
Corrupt standards they left in their wake soon proved that for a developer or integrator, Microsoft really did not try to be the best it could be, to borrow an army slogan. Microsoft never played in a way that really helped us to use open standards (read; easy to integrate with various other platforms) that makes it easy for us to build our solutions.
The fact that the combination of eye candy and promised ease of use sold many people on this dream, did not make it any better. True, Windows have improved by leaps and bounds, and is not necessarily bad, inspite of methodically ignoring security and reliability issues.
But what they have is a behemoth, which includes all the (by them) corrupted open standards, unknown closed standards, tie-down into a technology that we as problem solvers don't really need or want.
It is comparatively neither reliable, secure, open standard based (for easy integration), efficient or fast, compared to solutions like Linux and the BSD's.
Now I can see that Infoworld, wanting to hold on to its Windows readers, publishes articles like Linux Can't Kill Windows. It makes them feel better in their choice of platform. I've not looked into your sponsers to see how much is Windows based but it's probably as obvious as it seems.
What does surprise me is that Tom Yager as a technical director says what he does about Linux. My 14 year old daughter build her own Linux systems. The City of Largo in Florida completely converted from Windows with very little hassle. I spoke with the City Manager and he was ever so pleased.
People, cities and even governments world wide, are switching to Linux from Windows. Yet he proclaims it's not a Windows killer.
Microsoft who has never, ever, dropped their prices for anyone, is now not only discounting Windows but is even creating a discount version...
Not that I care if Linux is a "Windows Killer". In the industry people make their choices. The more correct choices they make, the better they do. The market will settle where it wants to be.
Linux is winning largely because it makes it easy for us solutions providers to create and support solutions. It scales from wrist watches to supercomputers.
It's strength is in its undying pursuit of technical perfection. Not in the all mighty dollar.
This is the fundamental difference between other commercial solutions and Open Source. Look at OpenBSD. It is persistently more secure than the big commercial alternatives. Why? Because its not money driven.
We see the choices Microsoft has and is making. They so clearly seem to be based on one thing only, provide an as apparent, compelling reason, as possible to use Windows. But then are incapable of delivering what the industry needs.
Let me expand on that. If a child asks to have a gun. Cries for it. Throws fits for it. Makes any kind of threat for it. You are not going to give that child are gun, now are you?
Why?
Because you have some sense of responsibility.
Even though it would stop all the crying etc, etc, you know that in the long ru
Why, you sound just like a troll. What's up with this reference of MythTV and Asterisk?
Unfortunately big complex systems require some idea of what you are doing. Services are available to those who don't understand telephony. But usually they want to get paid for their time. You sound like you expected something like this to be just configure, make, make install and it's up and running.
However, once you have studies the subject you can install a new system in under 30 minutes, and have it fully operational. It will have a sample configuration, which you will need to study and learn. Wiki exists which can take you through the whole thing.
Once you know both of these things you can build and configure a box in a matter of hours. That is, configured to do the kind of cool things you like it to do.
The gun ratio is much higher in Canada, where hunting is a more common thing. Maybe if you find some small redneck area in the US and compared to Ontario you could find a reversed situation. Per capita Canada has many more weapons.
It will be very interesting to see how far microsoft can push their users before they say Enough!
Fortunately for me I do just fine with OpenSource and don't need or use their products.
The real test is going to be with everyday to day users who just want to use their computer. We know DRM, etc is styfling creativity and since universities are now using a lot of OpenSource too, I see it as a race. A race between oppressive and open use. Some people and organizations stand a lot to loose/gain.
The Internet is a great place to try to control society from as it reaches so many people. See how the psychs wants to control each kid by having access to their school computers to ensure they have the "right" attitude. They lobby to replace academic score cards with "proper" attitude. Why go to school if not to learn?
It has already happend with the news media here in the US. It's controlled to keep americans afraid of each other. Just look at our neighboor Canada. They are very friendly and not at all afraid of each other. I dare you to compare the media. People in Europe sees everyday how one sided news are from the US.
The Internet is the current battle ground. DRM is in that very same line of "work". It sounds kind of dooms day like, and indeed I see our freedom is being attacked. I for one will do what I can to oppose DRM and similar technologies with both my mouth and my money.
Stupidly? What kind of ignorant statement is that?
Why would I want to boot up in anything but 5. Well, if I've messed up my computer that might be nice but then I just use dmsg. Imagine all these ordinary users who just want to use a computer, having to stare at all these cryptic messages that means next to nothing to them!
You're the flamebait buddy!
Oh, you might think that you should not use Linux unless you are really a very proficient hacker or whatever. Yeah, that's reasonable!
Only if you're a lab or kiosk?!?!
Man you really will win the price for user friendliness! Ignorant bastard!
We got it here in Florida too, and I did not accept the money as I don't want to agree not to sue MS. One of the stipulations accepting the money is not to sue MS. Besides the pultry few dollars are not worth the hassle. The latter no doubt lies behind what is going on in California. The state settled, not it's constituants.
It just shows, again, how this poor excuse of a human is bent on trying to line his own pockets at at the expense of everyone else. The only bad thing if he went to jail is that he actually would end up an even worse person, than he already is.
What a pack of loosers...
I actually am starting to feel sorry for them. No self esteem left. Nothing productive to do. The only hope is to pull the wool over just about everybody else in the US without ANY evidence. Imagine having to walk their boots! Oy ve!
Yeah, Linux is really limiting and inhibiting, which is why all of us are soo excited about using it. I guess we must be dumb or something. Many have even been windows users and are now wasting time on something this horrible. A more responsive kernel is of course even worse! What could Linus have been thinking?!!
Fortunately we have the likes of, what's his name at MS, Pester(?) to keep us alert to our stupidity! Thanks for the enlightment!!
(Someone get this guy new batteries I think his are out!)
It seems to me that it was over 30 years ago that Ohio Scientific came out with their micros. With Kansas City cassette interface and all. It operated at 300 baud and I used to soup them up to about 1200 baud.
My first very micro was probably about 32 years ago. I clearly recall the underground feeling the store had to it. I had to write a driver to print and even one to start and stop the floppy drive motor a few years later.
Hmm, sounds a lot of what I remember the android (replicant) in Blade Runner telling Harrison Ford as he was waiting to die, sitting in the rain on the roof.
Sean Young was the prettiest thing you had ever seen too...
Well I called and discovered it to be Network Solutions. I got a operator who informed me that the Supervisors were all busy. I snuck in a comment of how they are owned by versign and after putting me on hold for a few sec came back and asked if I'd give some details which they would try to forward to the correct party. I told them about a failed lame domain debugging I was doing ending up at 64.94.110.11. How it breaks a number of things. That Larsen is behind it and he should have known better than to sabotage the Internet. Being a professional Operator she did her best at trying to service me. If that was just to try to keep a lid on upset people calling I don't know. I would imagine a few people have called. At least it's coming back to them on some lines.
He did not say there will only be two Linux distributions.
He said "There will be no third distribution that will be SUPPORTED by the large IT vendors."
That's his estimate on what the corporate world will support / believe in. Remember, he's looking on this from a corporate perspective where you get support etc., not a free O/S view.
Yes, yes! Every time I see one of these stupid notes I want to post it on a newsgroup! Of course I do have better things to do than that so it never happens. They have absolutely no legal recourse when they use a totally insecure medium like email to then claim confidentiality. It's purely wishful thinking. We should all agree on a day, for all of us to post one of these dumb notes each to some public forum. To top it off, as you said we don't have any contract between us. Duh!
There's only one problem, when I searched the German mag FOCUS I could not find the article that was supposedly the source for this interview.
As much as we feel vindicated by the article I'm convinced it's false. Someone would have picked up on it and it would have received the same status as the "Halloween" paper did. It's simply too good to slip by unnoticed...
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Yes, I understand that's what you have been trained to believe. Unfortunately, the understanding of the mind has not been what it should have been. It's even kind of obvious without any deep understanding.
You tell someone to open the window whenever you touch your nose. Then when you touch your nose they do so. That, by itself, is very obvious a command telling the person to open the window, regardless what the "reason" you gave them (being cold, whatever).
I can understand that you don't want to think you are "programming" people, as that's not such a nice thing. But alas, that's exactly what it is.
For a subject to follow an instruction he has to have a lack of responsibility on that subject. F.ex. you never see a person jump out of the window as he (usually) have a bit more responsibility then killing himself off like that.
The problem with hypnotism is that it installs commands in the mind. The hypnotist does then not remove the first command, he installs a second command telling it to ignore the first.
Subsequently whenever the first one is restimulated the subject will have this conflict going on. - Follow / Don't follow the command.
Not really what you want to have going on, having urges that some hypnotist installed in your mind, for the rest of your life.
As a matter of priority, and importance, the IT dept is the mind of the organization. It tracks past, present and future activities. This makes the IT dept a direct junior to management, and above the rest of the organization.
This also gives you more responsibility, and as a result you fall harder than a normal employee if you mess up.
As a matter of importance, you are as important as you help others...
Hello Coward! You're just a troll, or you would have presented some actual data with that load of dung. Just like the next message...
FUD!?! You are a troll!
MySQL AB is sleeping with a devout Open Source enemy! And if that's OK with you maybe you won't mind helping me with some things if I hit on your girlfriend/wife? Maybe you'll help fixing my car after I try to run you over with it too?
I'm a Guardian ad Litem, and at least in Florida I'm not allowed to do anything except observe. I cannot recommend, suggest or direct any child or adult. What I can and do is give recommendations to the judge.
The judge I work for told me that if anyone gives me a hard time, they are giving HIM a hard time and to let him know immediately. In other words he's not at least interested in having anyone mess with his GAL's. I can see why the judge did not grant it.
Indeed a GAL is protected from lawsuits at least in Florida.
The RIAA is one hapless bunch who will run themselves out of business as soon as any viable solutions comes up.
Why can't I find my computer on the list? Where is it anyway?
Anyone here seen a black laptop?
Guess it just goes to show that not all are as "worldly" as life with the Internet suggests. It's a shame that we still have to see these kinds of attitudes walking around.
The only good thing about it is it's very obvious when you run into it, so you know with whom you are talking to.
In the security field, obscurity is not at all considered secure.
Letter to the Managing Director of Infoworld.
Dear Managing Editor,
Today I read an article by Tom Yager, that frankly surprised me. As the president of a VoIP provider I have to keep my head above the water and make sure we are sailing in the right direction. I figured that a managing editor has plenty of "hands on" to understand my view.
Some 35 years ago when I ventured into computers we did not have much in terms of eye candy. One worked with configuration files and with the birth of Unix it still got more so. It offered a practical GUI, but eye candy was not high on the list.
Then Windows came along. It was, to some of us, a playground for GUI developers. Not that a GUI is bad at all, but under Windows the efficiency we seek was not there. Over the years Windows has improved, but rather than seeking the best path for users it only seeked the best short term path for Microsoft.
Corrupt standards they left in their wake soon proved that for a developer or integrator, Microsoft really did not try to be the best it could be, to borrow an army slogan. Microsoft never played in a way that really helped us to use open standards (read; easy to integrate with various other platforms) that makes it easy for us to build our solutions.
The fact that the combination of eye candy and promised ease of use sold many people on this dream, did not make it any better. True, Windows have improved by leaps and bounds, and is not necessarily bad, inspite of methodically ignoring security and reliability issues.
But what they have is a behemoth, which includes all the (by them) corrupted open standards, unknown closed standards, tie-down into a technology that we as problem solvers don't really need or want.
It is comparatively neither reliable, secure, open standard based (for easy integration), efficient or fast, compared to solutions like Linux and the BSD's.
Now I can see that Infoworld, wanting to hold on to its Windows readers, publishes articles like Linux Can't Kill Windows. It makes them feel better in their choice of platform. I've not looked into your sponsers to see how much is Windows based but it's probably as obvious as it seems.
What does surprise me is that Tom Yager as a technical director says what he does about Linux. My 14 year old daughter build her own Linux systems. The City of Largo in Florida completely converted from Windows with very little hassle. I spoke with the City Manager and he was ever so pleased.
People, cities and even governments world wide, are switching to Linux from Windows. Yet he proclaims it's not a Windows killer.
Microsoft who has never, ever, dropped their prices for anyone, is now not only discounting Windows but is even creating a discount version...
Not that I care if Linux is a "Windows Killer". In the industry people make their choices. The more correct choices they make, the better they do. The market will settle where it wants to be.
Linux is winning largely because it makes it easy for us solutions providers to create and support solutions. It scales from wrist watches to supercomputers.
It's strength is in its undying pursuit of technical perfection. Not in the all mighty dollar.
This is the fundamental difference between other commercial solutions and Open Source. Look at OpenBSD. It is persistently more secure than the big commercial alternatives. Why? Because its not money driven.
We see the choices Microsoft has and is making. They so clearly seem to be based on one thing only, provide an as apparent, compelling reason, as possible to use Windows. But then are incapable of delivering what the industry needs.
Let me expand on that. If a child asks to have a gun. Cries for it. Throws fits for it. Makes any kind of threat for it. You are not going to give that child are gun, now are you?
Why?
Because you have some sense of responsibility.
Even though it would stop all the crying etc, etc, you know that in the long ru
Why, you sound just like a troll. What's up with this reference of MythTV and Asterisk?
Unfortunately big complex systems require some idea of what you are doing. Services are available to those who don't understand telephony. But usually they want to get paid for their time. You sound like you expected something like this to be just configure, make, make install and it's up and running.
However, once you have studies the subject you can install a new system in under 30 minutes, and have it fully operational. It will have a sample configuration, which you will need to study and learn. Wiki exists which can take you through the whole thing.
Once you know both of these things you can build and configure a box in a matter of hours. That is, configured to do the kind of cool things you like it to do.
Now there's a study that's gone awry.
The gun ratio is much higher in Canada, where hunting is a more common thing. Maybe if you find some small redneck area in the US and compared to Ontario you could find a reversed situation. Per capita Canada has many more weapons.
It will be very interesting to see how far microsoft can push their users before they say Enough!
Fortunately for me I do just fine with OpenSource and don't need or use their products.
The real test is going to be with everyday to day users who just want to use their computer. We know DRM, etc is styfling creativity and since universities are now using a lot of OpenSource too, I see it as a race. A race between oppressive and open use. Some people and organizations stand a lot to loose/gain.
The Internet is a great place to try to control society from as it reaches so many people. See how the psychs wants to control each kid by having access to their school computers to ensure they have the "right" attitude. They lobby to replace academic score cards with "proper" attitude. Why go to school if not to learn?
It has already happend with the news media here in the US. It's controlled to keep americans afraid of each other. Just look at our neighboor Canada. They are very friendly and not at all afraid of each other. I dare you to compare the media. People in Europe sees everyday how one sided news are from the US.
The Internet is the current battle ground. DRM is in that very same line of "work". It sounds kind of dooms day like, and indeed I see our freedom is being attacked. I for one will do what I can to oppose DRM and similar technologies with both my mouth and my money.
Stupidly? What kind of ignorant statement is that?
Why would I want to boot up in anything but 5. Well, if I've messed up my computer that might be nice but then I just use dmsg.
Imagine all these ordinary users who just want to use a computer, having to stare at all these cryptic messages that means next to nothing to them!
You're the flamebait buddy!
Oh, you might think that you should not use Linux unless you are really a very proficient hacker or whatever. Yeah, that's reasonable!
Only if you're a lab or kiosk?!?!
Man you really will win the price for user friendliness! Ignorant bastard!
We got it here in Florida too, and I did not accept the money as I don't want to agree not to sue MS.
One of the stipulations accepting the money is not to sue MS.
Besides the pultry few dollars are not worth the hassle. The latter no doubt lies behind what is going on in California. The state settled, not it's constituants.
I think it's great that something is being done about spamming, though I don't think it's a criminal but a civil offense.
It just shows, again, how this poor excuse of a human is bent on trying to line his own pockets at at the expense of everyone else.
The only bad thing if he went to jail is that he actually would end up an even worse person, than he already is.
What a pack of loosers...
I actually am starting to feel sorry for them. No self esteem left. Nothing productive to do. The only hope is to pull the wool over just about everybody else in the US without ANY evidence. Imagine having to walk their boots! Oy ve!
Yeah, Linux is really limiting and inhibiting, which is why all of us are soo excited about using it. I guess we must be dumb or something. Many have even been windows users and are now wasting time on something this horrible. A more responsive kernel is of course even worse! What could Linus have been thinking?!!
Fortunately we have the likes of, what's his name at MS, Pester(?) to keep us alert to our stupidity! Thanks for the enlightment!!
(Someone get this guy new batteries I think his are out!)
It seems to me that it was over 30 years ago that Ohio Scientific came out with their micros. With Kansas City cassette interface and all. It operated at 300 baud and I used to soup them up to about 1200 baud.
My first very micro was probably about 32 years ago. I clearly recall the underground feeling the store had to it.
I had to write a driver to print and even one to start and stop the floppy drive motor a few years later.
Hmm, sounds a lot of what I remember the android (replicant) in Blade Runner telling Harrison Ford as he was waiting to die, sitting in the rain on the roof.
Sean Young was the prettiest thing you had ever seen too...
Well I called and discovered it to be Network Solutions.
I got a operator who informed me that the Supervisors were all busy. I snuck in a comment of how they are owned by versign and after putting me on hold for a few sec came back and asked if I'd give some details which they would try to forward to the correct party.
I told them about a failed lame domain debugging I was doing ending up at 64.94.110.11. How it breaks a number of things. That Larsen is behind it and he should have known better than to sabotage the Internet.
Being a professional Operator she did her best at trying to service me. If that was just to try to keep a lid on upset people calling I don't know. I would imagine a few people have called. At least it's coming back to them on some lines.
Yes, and I bet you'd switch to walking if f.ex. Texaco said they have a patent on gasoline, wouldn't you?
It only proves that if you scream loud enough someone is going to believe you, regardless of what it is you are saying!
He did not say there will only be two Linux distributions.
He said "There will be no third distribution that will be SUPPORTED by the large IT vendors."
That's his estimate on what the corporate world will support / believe in. Remember, he's looking on this from a corporate perspective where you get support etc., not a free O/S view.
Yes, yes! Every time I see one of these stupid notes I want to post it on a newsgroup! Of course I do have better things to do than that so it never happens. They have absolutely no legal recourse when they use a totally insecure medium like email to then claim confidentiality. It's purely wishful thinking. We should all agree on a day, for all of us to post one of these dumb notes each to some public forum. To top it off, as you said we don't have any contract between us. Duh!
This is definitely funny!
There's only one problem, when I searched the German mag FOCUS I could not find the article that was supposedly the source for this interview.
As much as we feel vindicated by the article I'm convinced it's false. Someone would have picked up on it and it would have received the same status as the "Halloween" paper did. It's simply too good to slip by unnoticed...