This was a naked NT 4 Workstation. It was such a chore getting everything working right, that I really didn't bother putting any software on it. Opera and ad-muncher, and that was it.
So once you went past the BIOS load-up screens, yeah, NT zipped right along.
I know you jest, but I actually installed NT 4.0 workstation last year onto a laptop built in the post 2000 era. *Very* challenging (drivers being a huge issue), but in the end, I had a laptop that booted in seconds, and was quite useless online (but it was funny to see webpages attempt to render on a platform that didn't recognize the web-programming languages.)
One of the biggest challenges was simply finding SPs and patches. MS of course wiped them all out, and many websites were simply pointing back to MS's site for the files. In the end I found all the patches and tricks I needed, but my we have come a long way from NT days...
100k users is nothing, 1million is nothing. Popularity of an extension means nothing if something like this can happen. The auto-update method for extensions is ripe for abuse. IIRC, not that long ago places like GitHub were taken over in such the same manner. Trusted applications were suddenly wrapped with malware.
I don't have a solid answer, but it's something worth looking into.
Here is my thought to peacefully topple NK. Line up, on the border, elbow to elbow, huge tables of fresh food, and grills cooking all manner of food (steak, ribs, BBQ, you name it.) Then run giant fans blowing the food smell to the North Korean side. Put up monster sized banners saying "free, all you can eat, come one, come all"
Goddamn you're a moron aren't you? No wonder you've been banned from all manner of websites (here, OS News, ArsTech, the list goes on). I started with a polite question, and you go all retard on me (and plenty of other people I've seen) You're an adult (supposedly), act like one Alexander.
>>...with the rise of right-wing political parties... This is curious to me. Are these parties rising because they see their country and identity being overrun with immigrants, or are they on the rise because they see their country becoming a (perceived, rightly or wrongly) welfare state for foreigners, or is it something else?
The implication from the summary is it's due to climate shift, but I'm not so certain that's accurate.
Wouldn't it be easier to have a real website where this could be downloaded from, rather than relying on a random google search to some questionable site? I mean really Alexander, how hard is it to create a website these days?
Funny, I downloaded it just fine. The file name is "Plexamp Setup 1.0.0.exe" I followed the link from the story, but then again I downloaded the Windows version, perhaps the mac is different, I didn't see a Linux version either...
Boycotting them isn't hate. It's voting with your money and telling them you don't approve of what they are doing/have done. And since corps only understand one thing: money, it's the most effective way to tell them what you think of their actions.
I had to use Bing the other day for a search engine. I was playing around with an old system with a base install of Win2k SP4 on it. But nothing else had been upgraded, so IE5. Only search engine site that would load, was Bing. I searched for several, what I thought were, basic ideas (win2k security patches post SP4, latest version of IE to work on Win2k, etc) and the results Bing returned were *garbage*, like BS spam sites, crack-sites, stuff that wasn't even relevant, except for keyboard bombing. A pathetic search engine. Even Microsoft's own sites weren't in the top 2-3 hits. I don't know how many people use Bing, but I feel sorry for them.
What Disney nearly did to their IT staff? Yeah, they got stopped (barely) but the writing was on the wall, and a lot of good people were hurt in the process.
How quickly people forget... Boycott Disney. Everything they do. Stand up for your morals. I know I have. You can too.
I had never seen such single mindedness "my mind is made up don't confuse me with the facts" behaviour from US politicians. I realize it's a popular opinion to assume Pai has been bought and sold but it continually surprises me no one in gov't has launched an investigation into his ties yet. Sane people are simply not this zealous...
A system that has the capacity to say "I don't know the answer to that, but let me learn some more and I'll get back to you."
AlphaZero is a kick-ass Chess/Go player, but show it a pic of a hummingbird and say "what is this?" and chances are it's going to return an error state.
In other words, a program/system that can re-program its own code, or improve itself without external forces acting upon it to do so.
Well for starters, my laptop has neither a built-in camera, or built-in mic. Secondly, all devices in my home that connect to the 'net, are firewalled off (we are geeks after all, right?) and I can see what tries to go where, and I get to decide if it can, or not. A great many devices/applications want to "phone home" but work just fine when denied. Those that don't, don't stick around long with me. This may be the "new normal" but that doesn't mean I have to accept it and roll over.
(to add some more to the discussion: I want my OS to be stable, functional, get the hell of the way so I can do my work with the applications, you know, the things that make a PC useful, and more importantly, not to change UI every release. The constant change to Win10 is just one of the *many* reasons I will not consider it as a proper OS, you never know when you're going to wake up to an entirely new UI from the night before.)
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This was a naked NT 4 Workstation. It was such a chore getting everything working right, that I really didn't bother putting any software on it. Opera and ad-muncher, and that was it.
So once you went past the BIOS load-up screens, yeah, NT zipped right along.
I know you jest, but I actually installed NT 4.0 workstation last year onto a laptop built in the post 2000 era.
*Very* challenging (drivers being a huge issue), but in the end, I had a laptop that booted in seconds, and was quite useless online (but it was funny to see webpages attempt to render on a platform that didn't recognize the web-programming languages.)
One of the biggest challenges was simply finding SPs and patches. MS of course wiped them all out, and many websites were simply pointing back to MS's site for the files. In the end I found all the patches and tricks I needed, but my we have come a long way from NT days...
By showing a "better" (ahem) OS, then kill it off by writing your "best" (cough) software to only run on your newest OS.
Been that way for decades from MS. Nothing new.
A pacemaker?
No firing 10mm explosive tip caseless under the primary heat exchangers, right?
100k users is nothing, 1million is nothing. Popularity of an extension means nothing if something like this can happen. The auto-update method for extensions is ripe for abuse.
IIRC, not that long ago places like GitHub were taken over in such the same manner. Trusted applications were suddenly wrapped with malware.
I don't have a solid answer, but it's something worth looking into.
Here is my thought to peacefully topple NK.
Line up, on the border, elbow to elbow, huge tables of fresh food, and grills cooking all manner of food (steak, ribs, BBQ, you name it.)
Then run giant fans blowing the food smell to the North Korean side.
Put up monster sized banners saying "free, all you can eat, come one, come all"
NK would fall within a day. No shots fired.
Goddamn you're a moron aren't you? No wonder you've been banned from all manner of websites (here, OS News, ArsTech, the list goes on). I started with a polite question, and you go all retard on me (and plenty of other people I've seen)
You're an adult (supposedly), act like one Alexander.
>>...with the rise of right-wing political parties...
This is curious to me. Are these parties rising because they see their country and identity being overrun with immigrants, or are they on the rise because they see their country becoming a (perceived, rightly or wrongly) welfare state for foreigners, or is it something else?
The implication from the summary is it's due to climate shift, but I'm not so certain that's accurate.
Take it to e.mail. I am a public servant (very easy to find)
>>...when they can least afford it
Go on, tell me another one!
"Shareware" sites like Start64 are blocked where I work. Self-hosted sites, are not.
Wouldn't it be easier to have a real website where this could be downloaded from, rather than relying on a random google search to some questionable site?
I mean really Alexander, how hard is it to create a website these days?
Funny, I downloaded it just fine. The file name is "Plexamp Setup 1.0.0.exe"
I followed the link from the story, but then again I downloaded the Windows version, perhaps the mac is different, I didn't see a Linux version either...
Boycotting them isn't hate. It's voting with your money and telling them you don't approve of what they are doing/have done.
And since corps only understand one thing: money, it's the most effective way to tell them what you think of their actions.
I had to use Bing the other day for a search engine. I was playing around with an old system with a base install of Win2k SP4 on it.
But nothing else had been upgraded, so IE5.
Only search engine site that would load, was Bing.
I searched for several, what I thought were, basic ideas (win2k security patches post SP4, latest version of IE to work on Win2k, etc) and the results Bing returned were *garbage*, like BS spam sites, crack-sites, stuff that wasn't even relevant, except for keyboard bombing.
A pathetic search engine. Even Microsoft's own sites weren't in the top 2-3 hits.
I don't know how many people use Bing, but I feel sorry for them.
What Disney nearly did to their IT staff?
Yeah, they got stopped (barely) but the writing was on the wall, and a lot of good people were hurt in the process.
How quickly people forget...
Boycott Disney. Everything they do. Stand up for your morals. I know I have. You can too.
I had never seen such single mindedness "my mind is made up don't confuse me with the facts" behaviour from US politicians.
I realize it's a popular opinion to assume Pai has been bought and sold but it continually surprises me no one in gov't has launched an investigation into his ties yet.
Sane people are simply not this zealous...
A system that has the capacity to say "I don't know the answer to that, but let me learn some more and I'll get back to you."
AlphaZero is a kick-ass Chess/Go player, but show it a pic of a hummingbird and say "what is this?" and chances are it's going to return an error state.
In other words, a program/system that can re-program its own code, or improve itself without external forces acting upon it to do so.
and I'm blind now.
Honestly, as someone who used to drive Italian exotics, what they did to those is a crime against humanity.
The only winning move, is not to play
"Legal"
Good luck on that, it's a slippery idea that is resistant to being pigeonholed.
Well for starters, my laptop has neither a built-in camera, or built-in mic.
Secondly, all devices in my home that connect to the 'net, are firewalled off (we are geeks after all, right?) and I can see what tries to go where, and I get to decide if it can, or not.
A great many devices/applications want to "phone home" but work just fine when denied. Those that don't, don't stick around long with me. This may be the "new normal" but that doesn't mean I have to accept it and roll over.
Grapes..oddly enough.
And potatoes.
Still beta then?
(to add some more to the discussion: I want my OS to be stable, functional, get the hell of the way so I can do my work with the applications, you know, the things that make a PC useful, and more importantly, not to change UI every release. The constant change to Win10 is just one of the *many* reasons I will not consider it as a proper OS, you never know when you're going to wake up to an entirely new UI from the night before.)