If you drive 100+ miles a day to random locations, or to one specific location with no ability to charge, then electric cars aren't for you.
If you drive 100 miles a day, and you've got any flexibility in it, just having a spot or two along your route to top off probably means you're viable in a "basic" electric car like the Leaf.
All you do with public charging is top off a few miles here and there while you go about your day as normal -- except with better parking spaces:)
Like your average NFL player. Play for 6.9 years, earn $1.9M/year. Or maybe baseball - 5.6 years at $3.2M. Basketball: 4.8 years, $5.2M
FWIW, the NFL's counter-offer to the 3.5 year number the NFLPA suggests is 6.0, for a player who actually made his opening day roster, and didn't end up on a practice squad or was signed and then cut before rosters were finalized. Quibbles. Meh.
Regardless, you're comparing the 1500 best football players in the world with the 1500 best performing artists, or all football players against all performing artists? Also...so what. The market bears what the market will bear. The best doctor makes good money too. Crappy doctors just pay their student debt forever and then quit.
Outside of extremes, musical entertainment is generally worth between a beer and a couple hundred bucks per year per person. Sure, there's guys going to 20 mega-star concerts a year, paying $500+ for tickets, but most people see a show or two at the state fair, catch their favorite act once a year, and maybe pay for premium Pandora or Spotify or XM. NFL fans range from watching a game or two at the bar, buying a nice jersey at Christmas time to the guy with season tickets and a tailgating spot at the stadium. Guess how much he spends a year?...more than concert guy -- because he wants to.
Everyone else in the world that plugs anything into a public school's outside outlets deserves to have their dinner interrupted for a punitive night in jail? Gee, that's not very reasonable.
Why isn't it reasonable?
If the guy was siphoning just a tiny bit of gas from a school bus, I'd have him arrested. If he was wandering into the chemistry department and stealing only one flask, I'd have him arrested. If he was only digging up one plant of their landscaping, I'd have him arrested.
What's the difference? What makes stealing electricity OK?
I think the guy stealing penny candy at the supermarket is a colossal douche too. Fuck him. I have to pay a tiny percentage more for my penny candy for every one of those assholes. Fuck them all running.
Everyone's making a big deal out of what time they went to get him. You go to the address on his driver's license in the evening, because he's likely to be home instead of at work.
It takes 20 hours to fully charge a Leaf on 110. A 30-minute charge gets you 1/40th of a "tank" or about 2 miles. It's not worth going out of your way to get 2 miles of charge. It's not only a dick move on his part, it's a giant waste of time.
I don't accept "I only stole 5 cents of electricity" as a defense. HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING. Those are the worst kind of assholes - the ones who'll do it because they're entitled to do it. I'll just steal some electricity from the city -- I mean, lol, what are they going to do about it...
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Good. Screw him. Gives a bad name to the rest of us Leaf owners.
Almost every new-user-hire paperwork I've read recently includes "reasonable use of facility" language that includes things like charging your phone at your desk.
The guy who rolled up on a municipal building and plugged in his Leaf was a douche. I imagine that an overwhelming percentage of Leaf owners not planning a trip to a friend's house for an overnight leave their charger firmly plugged in in their garage...but there's plenty of power vampires out there. [In my neighborhood, it's mostly the hipster homeless (ipads and laptops, but no home) using the power plug at the gazebo by the library for their WiFi to watch Netflix. *shrug* Priorities.]
PlugShare, among other apps, shows parking spots where users have reported "unguarded" outlets. I expect hobo-style chalk symbols soon.:/
How about a link to an MPAA sponsored page of links to these various legal platforms?
To which ones? What vendor do you pimp over another vendor? Who does Google sue when you put up the iTunes link? Who does Apple sue when their link is buried halfway down the page? How many people refresh the page and then sue because the sorting algorithm wasn't random enough (like choosing a default IE search provider)? How many of the links does Comcast block or throttle because they are or aren't getting a share of HBO GO or ESPN on Demand?
"Please consider legal alternatives" is fine -- in the bigger picture of things.
I haven't given up on "begging the question" and people who say "further" because they think the uuuuurrrr makes them sound more erudite - as if they had their tea pinkies up in the air...
What about *-ism Internet lynch mob that would make you unemployable by disproportionally [sic] and retroactively applying arbitrary social standards?
What about them?
Welcome to the internet. Everything here is forever.
I'm not going to live in fear of having ideas and thoughts of my own. I regularly speak my mind and regularly express unpopular opinions. I live with the consequences of my actions -- you know, like an adult.
Since I don't live in fear of the internet boogeyman, I don't mind letting someone see my browsing history in exchange for (more) free WiFi.
You post is funny, but that's exactly what I'm happy to have.
I'm smart enough to know if purchasing the new McHog is a good idea or not -- and I might just get free fries with it because I've submitted to the will of my Googly master.
Every last site on the internet already connects to Facebook and Google and every other "social" service already.
Privacy extensions like Ghostery and NoScript are your friend.
I've got Google and Facebook blocked wherever I can. I'm not here to provide them with information about what I do on the internet. Some things are blocked at the firewall, and simply can't be resolved in my house.
They're not my friend. I'm not losing one second of sleep about being tracked. I went all-in a couple of years ago, and the thought police haven't descended from their black helicopters yet. I'm content to be the product that Google offers it's customers. I get a pretty good return on these services. I'm happy to be able to comment on some forum random forum quickly with my Facebook account. I'm happy to have Google give me a preemptive traffic update because it knows my schedule. I'm pleased that my games keep my scores and friends cross-platform and through device upgrades.
When my ISP started serving up ads when I mistyped a URL, I even switched to 8.8.8.8 for my DNS.
Screw it. Google can have my data. I wasn't using it anyway.
I love to use my OpenVPN server on port 443 at home, or http tunnel. Any people complaining here about loss of privacy and so on: are you really surfing on any public AP, be it McD, library, etc without the protection of a VPN/tunnel of some sort? If so then you are not allowed to complain about privacy loss. And if you do: why do you care, you just got another free AP in the city, saving your preciousss MBs on the mobile plan! Yay!
I think most of us just don't care.
I'm willing to use McDonald's WiFi if it's faster than whatever data I'm getting at the time. I don't give two craps if if they know where I surfed or if I signaled the Candy Crush server that I completed level 263.
Ironically, this is exactly what this service is offering the retailer -- better snooping into exactly that sort of browsing. The retailer wants to know which of their products are getting surfed for alternative buying.
I don't have any privacy to give up. Every last site on the internet already connects to Facebook and Google and every other "social" service already. There's nothing for me to trade them. I'm tracked 24-7 already. To late. I have nothing more to offer you.
It's like they're asking for the soul I already sold.
That said, I'll take your WiFi access, as long as I can get my auto-fill app on 'droid to fill out your EULA page automatically.
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It doesn't take a charging station everywhere.
If you drive 100+ miles a day to random locations, or to one specific location with no ability to charge, then electric cars aren't for you.
If you drive 100 miles a day, and you've got any flexibility in it, just having a spot or two along your route to top off probably means you're viable in a "basic" electric car like the Leaf.
All you do with public charging is top off a few miles here and there while you go about your day as normal -- except with better parking spaces :)
I'll offer that as a web service.
Just type your most commonly used username/password pairs into my website, and I'll instantly tell you if they're compromised.
Since they haven't published the impacted usernames yet, if one of you has access to the database, could you see if my password is in it?
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You're obviously not a real musician then. The make time! for their craft.
Like your average NFL player. Play for 6.9 years, earn $1.9M/year. Or maybe baseball - 5.6 years at $3.2M. Basketball: 4.8 years, $5.2M
FWIW, the NFL's counter-offer to the 3.5 year number the NFLPA suggests is 6.0, for a player who actually made his opening day roster, and didn't end up on a practice squad or was signed and then cut before rosters were finalized. Quibbles. Meh.
Regardless, you're comparing the 1500 best football players in the world with the 1500 best performing artists, or all football players against all performing artists? Also...so what. The market bears what the market will bear. The best doctor makes good money too. Crappy doctors just pay their student debt forever and then quit.
Outside of extremes, musical entertainment is generally worth between a beer and a couple hundred bucks per year per person. Sure, there's guys going to 20 mega-star concerts a year, paying $500+ for tickets, but most people see a show or two at the state fair, catch their favorite act once a year, and maybe pay for premium Pandora or Spotify or XM. NFL fans range from watching a game or two at the bar, buying a nice jersey at Christmas time to the guy with season tickets and a tailgating spot at the stadium. Guess how much he spends a year? ...more than concert guy -- because he wants to.
The market will bear what the market will bear.
Is that a rhetorical question?
Is this?
Nit picking:
The Leaf's charger is in the car. The thing people call the "charger" is just a smart switching EVSE cable.
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/wiki/index.php?title=Charging_System
Everyone else in the world that plugs anything into a public school's outside outlets deserves to have their dinner interrupted for a punitive night in jail? Gee, that's not very reasonable.
Why isn't it reasonable?
If the guy was siphoning just a tiny bit of gas from a school bus, I'd have him arrested.
If he was wandering into the chemistry department and stealing only one flask, I'd have him arrested.
If he was only digging up one plant of their landscaping, I'd have him arrested.
What's the difference? What makes stealing electricity OK?
I think the guy stealing penny candy at the supermarket is a colossal douche too. Fuck him. I have to pay a tiny percentage more for my penny candy for every one of those assholes. Fuck them all running.
Everyone's making a big deal out of what time they went to get him. You go to the address on his driver's license in the evening, because he's likely to be home instead of at work.
It takes 20 hours to fully charge a Leaf on 110. A 30-minute charge gets you 1/40th of a "tank" or about 2 miles. It's not worth going out of your way to get 2 miles of charge. It's not only a dick move on his part, it's a giant waste of time.
I don't accept "I only stole 5 cents of electricity" as a defense. HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING. Those are the worst kind of assholes - the ones who'll do it because they're entitled to do it. I'll just steal some electricity from the city -- I mean, lol, what are they going to do about it...
Good. Screw him. Gives a bad name to the rest of us Leaf owners.
Almost every new-user-hire paperwork I've read recently includes "reasonable use of facility" language that includes things like charging your phone at your desk.
The guy who rolled up on a municipal building and plugged in his Leaf was a douche. I imagine that an overwhelming percentage of Leaf owners not planning a trip to a friend's house for an overnight leave their charger firmly plugged in in their garage. ..but there's plenty of power vampires out there. [In my neighborhood, it's mostly the hipster homeless (ipads and laptops, but no home) using the power plug at the gazebo by the library for their WiFi to watch Netflix. *shrug* Priorities.]
PlugShare, among other apps, shows parking spots where users have reported "unguarded" outlets. I expect hobo-style chalk symbols soon. :/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_H-1
Thanks. I'll be Googlin' all week. Tip your server. Stay for the late show, I work blue.
Agreed. The line is not well defined...
It's very well defined. It wasn't his outlet, and he shouldn't siphon power from it without permission.
I've got outlets on the exterior of my house; that's not an invitation to plug your crap in there.
n.b. I own a Leaf. If you're driving around with your "charger," you're looking to siphon energy.
Ah yes, the ol,"I pay taxes, therefore I can take anything the government didn't nail down" defense.
How about a link to an MPAA sponsored page of links to these various legal platforms?
To which ones? What vendor do you pimp over another vendor? Who does Google sue when you put up the iTunes link? Who does Apple sue when their link is buried halfway down the page? How many people refresh the page and then sue because the sorting algorithm wasn't random enough (like choosing a default IE search provider)? How many of the links does Comcast block or throttle because they are or aren't getting a share of HBO GO or ESPN on Demand?
"Please consider legal alternatives" is fine -- in the bigger picture of things.
Lighten up Francis.
You had a great post with one dumb thing in it.
That's well better than par for the course here.
The Cautionary Ghost has shown me the future of "literally."
http://xkcd.com/1108/
I haven't given up on "begging the question" and people who say "further" because they think the uuuuurrrr makes them sound more erudite - as if they had their tea pinkies up in the air...
It does not "beg" any questions....
What about *-ism Internet lynch mob that would make you unemployable by disproportionally [sic] and retroactively applying arbitrary social standards?
What about them?
Welcome to the internet. Everything here is forever.
I'm not going to live in fear of having ideas and thoughts of my own. I regularly speak my mind and regularly express unpopular opinions. I live with the consequences of my actions -- you know, like an adult.
Since I don't live in fear of the internet boogeyman, I don't mind letting someone see my browsing history in exchange for (more) free WiFi.
If I want privacy, I know how to get it.
You post is funny, but that's exactly what I'm happy to have.
I'm smart enough to know if purchasing the new McHog is a good idea or not -- and I might just get free fries with it because I've submitted to the will of my Googly master.
Why would I be surprised?
I ever-so-boldly don't give a crap that I'm being tracked.
Privacy extensions like Ghostery and NoScript are your friend.
I've got Google and Facebook blocked wherever I can. I'm not here to provide them with information about what I do on the internet. Some things are blocked at the firewall, and simply can't be resolved in my house.
They're not my friend. I'm not losing one second of sleep about being tracked. I went all-in a couple of years ago, and the thought police haven't descended from their black helicopters yet. I'm content to be the product that Google offers it's customers. I get a pretty good return on these services. I'm happy to be able to comment on some forum random forum quickly with my Facebook account. I'm happy to have Google give me a preemptive traffic update because it knows my schedule. I'm pleased that my games keep my scores and friends cross-platform and through device upgrades.
When my ISP started serving up ads when I mistyped a URL, I even switched to 8.8.8.8 for my DNS.
Screw it. Google can have my data. I wasn't using it anyway.
I love to use my OpenVPN server on port 443 at home, or http tunnel. Any people complaining here about loss of privacy and so on: are you really surfing on any public AP, be it McD, library, etc without the protection of a VPN/tunnel of some sort? If so then you are not allowed to complain about privacy loss. And if you do: why do you care, you just got another free AP in the city, saving your preciousss MBs on the mobile plan! Yay!
I think most of us just don't care.
I'm willing to use McDonald's WiFi if it's faster than whatever data I'm getting at the time. I don't give two craps if if they know where I surfed or if I signaled the Candy Crush server that I completed level 263.
I imagine I'm like most users in that regard.
Ironically, this is exactly what this service is offering the retailer -- better snooping into exactly that sort of browsing. The retailer wants to know which of their products are getting surfed for alternative buying.
As long as it works over port 80 through their proxy server, sure.
I don't have any privacy to give up. Every last site on the internet already connects to Facebook and Google and every other "social" service already. There's nothing for me to trade them. I'm tracked 24-7 already. To late. I have nothing more to offer you.
It's like they're asking for the soul I already sold.
That said, I'll take your WiFi access, as long as I can get my auto-fill app on 'droid to fill out your EULA page automatically.
I spent the last decade in a job with a nice Herman Miller Aeron chair.
I now work a job with your run of the mill crappy cubicle chair.
While I make the same amount of money in the new job, it's considerably less satisfying spending my 8+ hours a day in this back-breaker.\
Happy employees stay longer, work longer, and refer other good potential employees.
Unhappy employees leave and work where it's nice.