We are "Slipping" because we got too comfy in our No.1 spot; not because our education is worse.
We are "slipping" because our so-called leadership is looking out for number one instead of the country. Corporate management dumps the people who built the companies in favor of cheaper labor. The government practices one-sided "free trade", which allows us to be skinned by our trading partners. Whatever big business wants they get - to hell with the country and its future as long as they get theirs.
I can understand these same people wanting the Visa cap raised ( cheap labour, onshore ), but the increased focus on education doesn't fit. Why would they want that? If they are just going to be hiring visa'd employees, why would they want to increase the number of capable usa workers?
You should really go read Matloff's white paper (at his site) if you want to understand it. The education issue is a red herring. First, industry claimed they couldn't find enough workers. After the massive layoffs, they needed a different excuse, so they began to use claims about skills or education. Increasing the number of available workers, especially younger workers, puts downward pressure on wages. It's all about money and the CEO's bonus.
Does anyone know of links to good information that covers all, or at least most, of the known relevant facts surrounding this issue in the U.S.?
Matloff has been following the issue for years. I'd suggest you use the link to his home page from the article and check out the U of M Journal of Law Reform paper (warning: PDF).
Simply put if you want to learn good, you need to work much much more extra than what high schools and universities are offering right now.
The courses are available as electives for those pursuing an engineering or CS career. The point is that there's little reason to take those courses. At my alma mater, CS enrollment is down over 30%. There's no reason for students to get the education for jobs that are going away. It's just common sense.
My memory may be failing me, but if I recall correctly, wasn't there an issue about LinuxWorld displaying advertisements for Microsoft products
You're probably thinking about Linux Magazine, which published some Microsoft ads and caused a stink with some of the readers. Personally, I didn't have a problem with it. If MS wants to help out Linux publications by advertizing to an audience that's not interested, it's fine with me.
Just to get a Linux box up and working would require hiring an outside consultant, which right there, adds a massive cost. It's like saying that a person who says that they can't afford a Ferrari is irrelevant since they've never bought one.
Can you afford a book on Linux? How about a CBT course? The time to take a course at the local community college? It seems you're really saying that you're unwilling to invest the effort to learn a new system. Given the latest IT employment surveys I've seen and their shift towards Linux admins, I'd say you're probably shortchanging yourself.
Well, if you don't conserve on verbs, pretty soon we'll run out. Then what will we do? The only solution will be to continue verbing nouns at an ever greater pace.
Hmm. The way the jobs are going, that might be more appropriate attire for my next job.
Seriously, I may give the shorts and t-shirts a try. You still have to look closely at their "made-in-USA" clothing though. Check the cheaper t-shirts and caps - they're imported.
Collective bargaining raised US salaries to absurd levels. Of course companies are going to outsource to other nations to stay alive. The unions shot themselves in the foot and are now crying fowl.
Then how do you explain the outsourcing of IT jobs, which are not unionized? Nobody is holding a gun to the CEO's head and making him or her pay programmers any particular wage.
I don't know of anyone who thinks there is any cachet connected to clothes made in China. The problem is that's all the retailers carry because they make more profit by maintaining prices and cutting costs with cheap clothes. If you know of someplace that sells American-made clothes, I'd like to hear it (and don't give me the name of your tailor).
Yes. Unless you're suggesting that the jobs will be given to Indians with bad credit ratings then I remain unable to make the connection. Unless the suggestion is that no-one in India should be trusted because the nation is more poor than America. It's impossible to take this argument seriously.
Perhaps you're being deliberately obtuse? The point is that Citibank and other companies aren't checking the credit ratings of employees used by the offshore firms running the call centers. It's a bit of a double standard predicated on the money that can funneled into the executive officers compensation (bonuses). HTH.
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So, how exactly is Longhorn going to change that?
Trusted computing. The user will no longer be trusted to install software.
We are "Slipping" because we got too comfy in our No.1 spot; not because our education is worse.
We are "slipping" because our so-called leadership is looking out for number one instead of the country. Corporate management dumps the people who built the companies in favor of cheaper labor. The government practices one-sided "free trade", which allows us to be skinned by our trading partners. Whatever big business wants they get - to hell with the country and its future as long as they get theirs.
I can understand these same people wanting the Visa cap raised ( cheap labour, onshore ), but the increased focus on education doesn't fit. Why would they want that? If they are just going to be hiring visa'd employees, why would they want to increase the number of capable usa workers?
You should really go read Matloff's white paper (at his site) if you want to understand it. The education issue is a red herring. First, industry claimed they couldn't find enough workers. After the massive layoffs, they needed a different excuse, so they began to use claims about skills or education. Increasing the number of available workers, especially younger workers, puts downward pressure on wages. It's all about money and the CEO's bonus.
Does anyone know of links to good information that covers all, or at least most, of the known relevant facts surrounding this issue in the U.S.?
Matloff has been following the issue for years. I'd suggest you use the link to his home page from the article and check out the U of M Journal of Law Reform paper (warning: PDF).
Simply put if you want to learn good, you need to work much much more extra than what high schools and universities are offering right now.
The courses are available as electives for those pursuing an engineering or CS career. The point is that there's little reason to take those courses. At my alma mater, CS enrollment is down over 30%. There's no reason for students to get the education for jobs that are going away. It's just common sense.
Maybe Dell doesn't want to be locked into MS forever on his server line.
We've bought quite a few Dell servers - with Red Hat Advanced Server installed.
My memory may be failing me, but if I recall correctly, wasn't there an issue about LinuxWorld displaying advertisements for Microsoft products
You're probably thinking about Linux Magazine, which published some Microsoft ads and caused a stink with some of the readers. Personally, I didn't have a problem with it. If MS wants to help out Linux publications by advertizing to an audience that's not interested, it's fine with me.
I'm a Scorporiotarian --- what should I do??
Yeah, I feel for you. I't must be tough finding work since they cancelled Farscape.
What the heck is the plural possessive of sheep anyway
Them sheep belongs to me.
and does anyone else care?
Bah, er, no.
And it will provide a report on how the user sitting at the controls did something to cause the crash.
He opened a program. Just another case of user error.
"Idiots of Tomorrow"? You mean they don't really stand in awe of me, and I'm not really what motivates them to make software? The TV lied?!
If that's what it takes to learn Linux, count me out!
You need one before you start on Linux. Here ya go.
Just to get a Linux box up and working would require hiring an outside consultant, which right there, adds a massive cost. It's like saying that a person who says that they can't afford a Ferrari is irrelevant since they've never bought one.
Can you afford a book on Linux? How about a CBT course? The time to take a course at the local community college? It seems you're really saying that you're unwilling to invest the effort to learn a new system. Given the latest IT employment surveys I've seen and their shift towards Linux admins, I'd say you're probably shortchanging yourself.
Well, if you don't conserve on verbs, pretty soon we'll run out. Then what will we do? The only solution will be to continue verbing nouns at an ever greater pace.
Wasn't the U.S. territorial limit changed to 12 NM about 15 years ago?
2. Why are you using root for something as simple as using nslookup?
He's running Linspire.
You're not banking in the clear on http: are you? On an unpatched Win box? With IE?
Of course not. That's what telnet's for.
How would you like to use Times New Roman on your wedding invitation?
That's probably not a very worrisome question on Slashdot.
After all, why would they want to increase the possibility of someone reverse-engineering the PDF format
The PDF format is not a secret as demonstrated by all the PDF readers available for Linux.
After asking them to build some bombers for you?
Hmm. The way the jobs are going, that might be more appropriate attire for my next job.
Seriously, I may give the shorts and t-shirts a try. You still have to look closely at their "made-in-USA" clothing though. Check the cheaper t-shirts and caps - they're imported.
Collective bargaining raised US salaries to absurd levels. Of course companies are going to outsource to other nations to stay alive. The unions shot themselves in the foot and are now crying fowl.
Then how do you explain the outsourcing of IT jobs, which are not unionized? Nobody is holding a gun to the CEO's head and making him or her pay programmers any particular wage.
I don't know of anyone who thinks there is any cachet connected to clothes made in China. The problem is that's all the retailers carry because they make more profit by maintaining prices and cutting costs with cheap clothes. If you know of someplace that sells American-made clothes, I'd like to hear it (and don't give me the name of your tailor).
It's not a point I've seen raised in this discussion so far.
It was implicit and obvious. You are being deliberately obtuse.
Yes. Unless you're suggesting that the jobs will be given to Indians with bad credit ratings then I remain unable to make the connection. Unless the suggestion is that no-one in India should be trusted because the nation is more poor than America. It's impossible to take this argument seriously.
Perhaps you're being deliberately obtuse? The point is that Citibank and other companies aren't checking the credit ratings of employees used by the offshore firms running the call centers. It's a bit of a double standard predicated on the money that can funneled into the executive officers compensation (bonuses). HTH.