It isn't the size, it's the DPI and sheer number of pixels.
Also the IBM T221 or the Iiyama AQU5611DTBK displays are (worthy) competition. I'd go for the IBM display myself.
Take a look at IBM's list of potential uses:... * Engineering--view and rotate large 3D models e.g. automobiles and aircraft * Gas & oil industry--seismic imaging for exploration, production and reservoir management * Geographic Information Systems (GIS)--mapping, satellite imaging, asset management * Medical assessment--radiography, computed tomography (CT), magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), ultrasound, nuclear medicine, fluoroscopy, and angiography * Publishing--pre-press, service providers, digital museums
These are meant for scientists and doctors, not UT2004 frag fests.
You need two DVI cables to run these things at a decent screen update rate (no screen flicker, it just takes lots of digital bandwidth to pump that many pixels) when using all those pixels. The cards required are around $1,000 and I've seen Matrox and Nvidia configurations mentioned with the IBM display, though I'm sure ATI's FireGL cards could do the job, software willing.
So, are we going to get a news post about the IBM and Iiyama displays too?
Check this article which talks about the Matrox Parhelia 256HR for use with all three. It's from September 2003.
in a script for a cron job run every week or whenever. Or do it manually. Or craft your own script that doesn't actually perform the upgrade but emails you when something can be updated. The output of a cron job gets mailed to the user's account (in this case root).
Their lab test equipment is now called "Agilent," an entirely separate company.
I didnt' know that. Explains why our new DSOs are Agilent then. Very good machines they are too. We've got a Marconi network analyser but it's a right pain to use...
... at any company. You can't really generalise the quality of customer service for companies as large as HP.
Strange you had so much trouble with an automated web ordering system. I've always had great service from HP spare parts dispatch via both phone/fax and email, where no standard purchase order templates are required or used and are evidently processed by a human.
I even got one of their dvd burners for a mere $99 year before last (when they were ~$300 normally) and then when it broke only 3 weeks after I bought it they said it wasn't covered under warrenty.
That's not entirely unique to HP. Some HDD manufacturers seem to go by manufacture date too. It's not always the manufacturer's fault that some store somewhere can't sell old stock. Besides, if that were the case, can't you deal with the store instead of HP? The shop I used to work at would replace it for you at a loss in a case like this.
That said, I do like HP laser printers. The post-warranty and even in-warranty service can't be beat. The HP partfinder site is just a couple of clicks away and certainly beats the hell out of Lexmark's PDF-based parts catalogue system. As for other manufacturers like Oki (though Oki make good printers and have decent parts support too), Brother (evil) and Epson, I'm not too sure.
HP have some very nice, well engineered products. Non-consumer stuff like their managed ethernet switches and lab test equipment is fantastic. It's just that their cheap stuff is... too clunky. And cheap.
You should be applauding Intel for saying so quickly
We are.
instead of trying to release some ineffective firmware patch
It's a bit hard to patch a physical manufacturing defect, so there really is absolutely no other option.
You shouldn't be whining about the temporary loss of a brand-new computer
Who's whining? It's news.
other than that you wanted to play around with it and install some more software
Well I'm glad you hold such strong valuable principles. Thanks for that contribution, I would have been left misguided and unsure without it. With wisdom and insight like that I'm sure you will achieve great things in this world, the courage it must have taken to post AC astounds me.
Stealing a PIN is way way harder and requires considerable more effort and resources than that.
Stealing a PIN can way harder.
But I think it depends on the policies in place.
Sure, DES keys for bank ATMs are going to be a lot harder to steal (erm, generate) than a technician's fingerprint.
In high-level security applications a combination of a PIN entry, identification and other security protocols is going to be harder to defeat then mere fingerprint ID by itself.
However, I've worked at places where the site's security system PIN is shared for all staff, and rarely ever changes (6 months or more).
In these cases a PIN is very vurnerable to being obtained via social engineering (disgruntled ex-employees?) or just plain observation.
I think the best combination would be some sort of physical key and PIN. Some sites I've seen have two normal locks (overnight lockup) via old fashioned lock 'n key, PIN (disarm security system), and RFID swipe cards (after-hours access for employees).
Ten years ago on December 10th, 1993, id Software released the Doom shareware, forever changing the world of PC games. Doom pretty much defined the very young first person shooter genera, and set the bar for future games to come. With immersive, colorful levels, deadly enemies and some of the greatest gameplay any game has ever seen, Doom can be best described as nothing short of a masterpiece. Even to this day it is still cited as one of the best and most signifigant games made.
Hmm, isn't your website part of a porn webring? So I find your post quite interesting...
Are you telling me that these guys aren't selling addresses when you put in your credit card number?
That the "FREE!!!1 porn in your inbox" forms aren't just email harvesters?
That the spyware popups ("Sorry! Your browser is not Win32 compatible" when you browse with Linux) are not trying to rape my computer for all it's worth?
I hope you tried being polite first. And by "call a lot", unless they are stuffing you around/missed dates, once a day is tolerable.
As someone who's worked on tech support, a rational explanation of your history and situation can command respect without the need for any yelling, abuse, or threats.
Does Apple track support accounts using support IDs? If so I can guarantee that from now on, every time you call, they punch your number in, your past behaviour will be flagged on their system. On our system, customers flagged AH were prioritized at the end of the queue for their support category when the shop is overloaded with work.
If the customer starts abusing/swearing at any staff, policy was that the boss could order jobs to be reverted/cancelled, the account to be settled and closed. Seen that a few times; even refunded/re-acquired systems and networking hardware, labour etc. to take their trading value back to $0. In other words, no longer our customer. At all.
We're just not interested in doing business with abusive arseholes. On the other hand, Apple has a legal obligation towards your warranty support so they have no choice in what customers they can get rid of.
If they were the ones that were being rude to you first, try and speak to a different operator. This might just mean hanging up and trying again. They're not all the same - their HR department/colleagues may even be interested to hear what you have to say about Joe Operator if he was being deliberately unhelpful or incompetent. They won't know until you tell them about it.
Did you provide any history/details or talk to anyone handling the repair job? I'm not sure how Apple works, but with Canon/HP/Oki/LGe/Acer etc. the actual repair job may be dispatched to a 3rd party general purpose repair centre with different job system.
Is it possible Apple was not providing repair history to the repair centre? Perhaps even sending it to different repair centres each time? If the first phone call you made was after the 4th job, that may be why it had seen 4 attempts.
But you're right Apple saves pennies by jerking customer's chains when they want them replaced, and they really shouldn't.
In your case, four times, same fault - sure. At our shop, though, we had some customers demand complete replacement systems even on the first failure (simply because it's new, it surely can't fail!). If your system has had two or three unrelated failures, it can be quite hard to convince you that the repaired system is no more likely to fail than a whole new one.
It's a big decision to replace a whole system, since you've essentially got rid of 2 systems + parts + labour for the price of one.
Just remember that the poor schmuck on the other end of the phone is just trying to do their job, yelling and screaming will rarely help your situation, you need to co-operate and help him/her help YOU.
If up-front abuse does work, that's probably at the expense of standard operating procedure, dignity, and the support guy being intimidated (wants you off his back).
I have been outright lied to, I have been transfered, put on hold for hours, and the whole nine yards...
Was this before or after the yelling? If before, I hope you made a complaint. They want to know if their system is working, but those that have the power to fix things won't know unless you provide FEEDBACK.
If after you lost your temper, well, they were probably overloaded and had hundreds of other callers who were being polite and helpful. If you could pick and choose, what would you do? Do you think your yelling helped your situation in a positive way?
Sorry I said the word "troll". Guess I should have said "man";-)
Separately, I'm amazed that people still do dev work for BeOS. By that, I mean, of all the open source projects to spend time on, why choose this one?! It seems there's a lot of open source projects that offer the world more value than BeOS does.
So in other words you meant what you said.
There are many, many FLOSS projects duplicating each other, not just Operating Systems.
There are many that are very interested in the BeOS architecture. It's not just different. It's a whole "new" design. Sure, Linux is a lot more general purpose - but that doesn't mean everything else is valueless, or even of less value - depends on the user and the context.
OpenBeOS is one of many exciting experimental Operating Systems, along with Atheos, SkyOS, AROS, BRIX, GEM, NewOS, Oberon (a programming language that has it's own native OS that isn't C!), and of course, Plan 9.
Many of these aren't even UNIX-like at all, but can provide a POSIX compatibility API to make porting GNU software easier. A lot of these projects are experimental for the sake of it; in other words, they are not realistically expecting to reach a mainstream status. OpenBeOS, on the other hand, is driven to reach a goal - get back to where the original BeOS was, and surpass it. Their philosophy seems to be, that using a FLOSS development model, they can succeed the second time round. I sincerely hope they do.
There's much more to the world than just Linux... these OS projects are small enough to try out new and radical things, without anybody bitching about it.
But most importantly, even if they are of little practical use, it's about FUN and VISION. Sure, they could hack on something boring like OOo or Mozilla, but it would take months to learn the internals enough to start serious hacking.
There's nothing quite like writing your own OS. The learning and experience gained is worth every minute of it.
But seriously, it's great to have alternative alternatives. Linux and the other UNIX clones out there are great 'n all, but not for everything. Really what makes it is the user software - apps like Wings3D, Blender, Mozilla, Flightgear, gimp, Abiword - make Linux worth using on the desktop.
But the design of BeOS matches the stand-alone desktop user experience that I would like to see.
That said, I've been Linux-only for about 3 years now.
Remember, the XBox is x86 powered, so you don't need emulation, you need "virtualization".
Sure, if you're trying to run XBox games on a WinXP desktop. But the point is that an XBox2 would be running a completely alien CPU (PPC) so it will need both virtualization and CPU emulation.
The version we have at work must have been old or something - it doesn't carry unfinished tasks on to the next day? I had to visit each day on the calendar to find unfinished tasks (which means I had to remember that the task was unfinished)...
More plausible is that I didn't know what I was doing (I rarely had to dive into it for myself), the concept of having to remember and locate unfinished tasks is just absurd...
As I said, it's not the best example I have. sscanf() is great when you're dealing with text that is fairly consistent. You'll notice this is part of an if block; it tests if the whole regexp matches and also extracts parts of it into variables to be used later. The hex digits are of variable length.
Perl regexps deal with unicode/internationalised text seamlessly. The weak typing allows you to push data onto variables with no allocation/error checking issues. You can build quite complex, flexible regexps. It may seem less readable than sscanf() (this isn't a good example), but somebody versed in building regexps can easily read and adapt somebody else's regexp code, especially if it's been commented piece by piece.
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It isn't the size, it's the DPI and sheer number of pixels.
...
Also the IBM T221 or the Iiyama AQU5611DTBK displays are (worthy) competition. I'd go for the IBM display myself.
Take a look at IBM's list of potential uses:
* Engineering--view and rotate large 3D models e.g. automobiles and aircraft
* Gas & oil industry--seismic imaging for exploration, production and reservoir management
* Geographic Information Systems (GIS)--mapping, satellite imaging, asset management
* Medical assessment--radiography, computed tomography (CT), magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), ultrasound, nuclear medicine, fluoroscopy, and angiography
* Publishing--pre-press, service providers, digital museums
These are meant for scientists and doctors, not UT2004 frag fests.
The IBM T221 has a resolution of 3840x2400 in 22.2".
Whilst its RRP from IBM is $8,399 USD you can find some resellers advertising them for $3,999 USD on froogle such as this.
The Iiyama AQU5611DTBK is also a 22" 9.2 Megapixel device.
You need two DVI cables to run these things at a decent screen update rate (no screen flicker, it just takes lots of digital bandwidth to pump that many pixels) when using all those pixels. The cards required are around $1,000 and I've seen Matrox and Nvidia configurations mentioned with the IBM display, though I'm sure ATI's FireGL cards could do the job, software willing.
So, are we going to get a news post about the IBM and Iiyama displays too?
Check this article which talks about the Matrox Parhelia 256HR for use with all three. It's from September 2003.
Surely the brain-dead judge should have stopped and thought for a second if someone had said that sentence to him...
Add the line ... to your
Put:in a script for a cron job run every week or whenever. Or do it manually. Or craft your own script that doesn't actually perform the upgrade but emails you when something can be updated. The output of a cron job gets mailed to the user's account (in this case root).
The IBM T221 has a resolution of 3840x2400 in 22.2".
Whilst its RRP from IBM is $8,399 USD you can find some resellers advertising them for $3,999 USD on froogle such as this.
So the apple display is... considerably cheaper, and larger, but I'd still like an IBM T221...
Their lab test equipment is now called "Agilent," an entirely separate company.
I didnt' know that. Explains why our new DSOs are Agilent then. Very good machines they are too. We've got a Marconi network analyser but it's a right pain to use...
... at any company. You can't really generalise the quality of customer service for companies as large as HP.
Strange you had so much trouble with an automated web ordering system. I've always had great service from HP spare parts dispatch via both phone/fax and email, where no standard purchase order templates are required or used and are evidently processed by a human.
Sucks you had to get a Dell. Personally I would have preffered the HP "engineering" (though neither actually make their own laptops).
I even got one of their dvd burners for a mere $99 year before last (when they were ~$300 normally) and then when it broke only 3 weeks after I bought it they said it wasn't covered under warrenty.
That's not entirely unique to HP. Some HDD manufacturers seem to go by manufacture date too. It's not always the manufacturer's fault that some store somewhere can't sell old stock. Besides, if that were the case, can't you deal with the store instead of HP? The shop I used to work at would replace it for you at a loss in a case like this.
That said, I do like HP laser printers. The post-warranty and even in-warranty service can't be beat. The HP partfinder site is just a couple of clicks away and certainly beats the hell out of Lexmark's PDF-based parts catalogue system. As for other manufacturers like Oki (though Oki make good printers and have decent parts support too), Brother (evil) and Epson, I'm not too sure.
HP have some very nice, well engineered products. Non-consumer stuff like their managed ethernet switches and lab test equipment is fantastic. It's just that their cheap stuff is... too clunky. And cheap.
How does this compare to other SAN hacks like Inter Mezzo, coda or the Open Mosix File System (find text: mfs)?
Quit complaining.
Who's complaining?
You should be applauding Intel for saying so quickly
We are.
instead of trying to release some ineffective firmware patch
It's a bit hard to patch a physical manufacturing defect, so there really is absolutely no other option.
You shouldn't be whining about the temporary loss of a brand-new computer
Who's whining? It's news.
other than that you wanted to play around with it and install some more software
Well I'm glad you hold such strong valuable principles. Thanks for that contribution, I would have been left misguided and unsure without it. With wisdom and insight like that I'm sure you will achieve great things in this world, the courage it must have taken to post AC astounds me.
but Canada has a LOT to lose.
;-)
Why? There's always juniper networks
Stealing a PIN is way way harder and requires considerable more effort and resources than that.
Stealing a PIN can way harder.
But I think it depends on the policies in place.
Sure, DES keys for bank ATMs are going to be a lot harder to steal (erm, generate) than a technician's fingerprint.
In high-level security applications a combination of a PIN entry, identification and other security protocols is going to be harder to defeat then mere fingerprint ID by itself.
However, I've worked at places where the site's security system PIN is shared for all staff, and rarely ever changes (6 months or more).
In these cases a PIN is very vurnerable to being obtained via social engineering (disgruntled ex-employees?) or just plain observation.
I think the best combination would be some sort of physical key and PIN. Some sites I've seen have two normal locks (overnight lockup) via old fashioned lock 'n key, PIN (disarm security system), and RFID swipe cards (after-hours access for employees).
You sound like a really enlightened individual who has travelled the world and truly understands many diverse cultures.
Is that why you're posting AC?
... defeating fingerprint scans is a lot harder than stealing a PIN.
Hmm, isn't your website part of a porn webring? So I find your post quite interesting...
Are you telling me that these guys aren't selling addresses when you put in your credit card number?
That the "FREE!!!1 porn in your inbox" forms aren't just email harvesters?
That the spyware popups ("Sorry! Your browser is not Win32 compatible" when you browse with Linux) are not trying to rape my computer for all it's worth?
Call a lot, and if need be yell.
I hope you tried being polite first. And by "call a lot", unless they are stuffing you around/missed dates, once a day is tolerable.
As someone who's worked on tech support, a rational explanation of your history and situation can command respect without the need for any yelling, abuse, or threats.
Does Apple track support accounts using support IDs? If so I can guarantee that from now on, every time you call, they punch your number in, your past behaviour will be flagged on their system. On our system, customers flagged AH were prioritized at the end of the queue for their support category when the shop is overloaded with work.
If the customer starts abusing/swearing at any staff, policy was that the boss could order jobs to be reverted/cancelled, the account to be settled and closed. Seen that a few times; even refunded/re-acquired systems and networking hardware, labour etc. to take their trading value back to $0. In other words, no longer our customer. At all.
We're just not interested in doing business with abusive arseholes. On the other hand, Apple has a legal obligation towards your warranty support so they have no choice in what customers they can get rid of.
If they were the ones that were being rude to you first, try and speak to a different operator. This might just mean hanging up and trying again. They're not all the same - their HR department/colleagues may even be interested to hear what you have to say about Joe Operator if he was being deliberately unhelpful or incompetent. They won't know until you tell them about it.
Did you provide any history/details or talk to anyone handling the repair job? I'm not sure how Apple works, but with Canon/HP/Oki/LGe/Acer etc. the actual repair job may be dispatched to a 3rd party general purpose repair centre with different job system.
Is it possible Apple was not providing repair history to the repair centre? Perhaps even sending it to different repair centres each time? If the first phone call you made was after the 4th job, that may be why it had seen 4 attempts.
But you're right Apple saves pennies by jerking customer's chains when they want them replaced, and they really shouldn't.
In your case, four times, same fault - sure. At our shop, though, we had some customers demand complete replacement systems even on the first failure (simply because it's new, it surely can't fail!). If your system has had two or three unrelated failures, it can be quite hard to convince you that the repaired system is no more likely to fail than a whole new one.
It's a big decision to replace a whole system, since you've essentially got rid of 2 systems + parts + labour for the price of one.
Just remember that the poor schmuck on the other end of the phone is just trying to do their job, yelling and screaming will rarely help your situation, you need to co-operate and help him/her help YOU.
If up-front abuse does work, that's probably at the expense of standard operating procedure, dignity, and the support guy being intimidated (wants you off his back).
I have been outright lied to, I have been transfered, put on hold for hours, and the whole nine yards...
Was this before or after the yelling? If before, I hope you made a complaint. They want to know if their system is working, but those that have the power to fix things won't know unless you provide FEEDBACK.
If after you lost your temper, well, they were probably overloaded and had hundreds of other callers who were being polite and helpful. If you could pick and choose, what would you do? Do you think your yelling helped your situation in a positive way?
Car manufacturers are hardly putting current technology to good use, let alone nano-technology.
Even if they could make anything for even equivilent cost, let alone cheaper, they'd probably still find some way of letting it break in 3-5 years.
Sorry I said the word "troll". Guess I should have said "man" ;-)
Separately, I'm amazed that people still do dev work for BeOS. By that, I mean, of all the open source projects to spend time on, why choose this one?! It seems there's a lot of open source projects that offer the world more value than BeOS does.
So in other words you meant what you said.
There are many, many FLOSS projects duplicating each other, not just Operating Systems.
There are many that are very interested in the BeOS architecture. It's not just different. It's a whole "new" design. Sure, Linux is a lot more general purpose - but that doesn't mean everything else is valueless, or even of less value - depends on the user and the context.
OpenBeOS is one of many exciting experimental Operating Systems, along with Atheos, SkyOS, AROS, BRIX, GEM, NewOS, Oberon (a programming language that has it's own native OS that isn't C!), and of course, Plan 9.
Many of these aren't even UNIX-like at all, but can provide a POSIX compatibility API to make porting GNU software easier. A lot of these projects are experimental for the sake of it; in other words, they are not realistically expecting to reach a mainstream status. OpenBeOS, on the other hand, is driven to reach a goal - get back to where the original BeOS was, and surpass it. Their philosophy seems to be, that using a FLOSS development model, they can succeed the second time round. I sincerely hope they do.
There's much more to the world than just Linux... these OS projects are small enough to try out new and radical things, without anybody bitching about it.
But most importantly, even if they are of little practical use, it's about FUN and VISION. Sure, they could hack on something boring like OOo or Mozilla, but it would take months to learn the internals enough to start serious hacking.
There's nothing quite like writing your own OS. The learning and experience gained is worth every minute of it.
You are a funny troll aren't you...
But seriously, it's great to have alternative alternatives. Linux and the other UNIX clones out there are great 'n all, but not for everything. Really what makes it is the user software - apps like Wings3D, Blender, Mozilla, Flightgear, gimp, Abiword - make Linux worth using on the desktop.
But the design of BeOS matches the stand-alone desktop user experience that I would like to see.
That said, I've been Linux-only for about 3 years now.
Remember, the XBox is x86 powered, so you don't need emulation, you need "virtualization".
Sure, if you're trying to run XBox games on a WinXP desktop. But the point is that an XBox2 would be running a completely alien CPU (PPC) so it will need both virtualization and CPU emulation.
Jesus I hated that program.
The version we have at work must have been old or something - it doesn't carry unfinished tasks on to the next day? I had to visit each day on the calendar to find unfinished tasks (which means I had to remember that the task was unfinished)...
More plausible is that I didn't know what I was doing (I rarely had to dive into it for myself), the concept of having to remember and locate unfinished tasks is just absurd...
Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baud.
Cheers
Read the patch. It does just that.
As I said, it's not the best example I have. sscanf() is great when you're dealing with text that is fairly consistent. You'll notice this is part of an if block; it tests if the whole regexp matches and also extracts parts of it into variables to be used later. The hex digits are of variable length.
Perl regexps deal with unicode/internationalised text seamlessly. The weak typing allows you to push data onto variables with no allocation/error checking issues. You can build quite complex, flexible regexps. It may seem less readable than sscanf() (this isn't a good example), but somebody versed in building regexps can easily read and adapt somebody else's regexp code, especially if it's been commented piece by piece.