Right, but don't ya think that she's gotta point on providing some good migration tools? As I recall, that's what Apple does with that "Move2Mac" software they have. Yes, users should be prepared to learn some new paradigms, but their data will still be relevant.
I don't think it's that worth bugging with, for a few reasons:
1. It's quite easy just to hibernate (in Windows) instead of shutting down. In the shutdown menu in XP, in fact, it'll remember what you did last time, so you won't even have to switch anything in the combo box. I have hibernate mapped to a function key on my laptop.
2. The only reasons reboots *need* to happen any more are for hardware changes or changes to important parts of the OS. So, the computer would have to take another "post-boot" image anyway, meaning that a reboot would be a full reboot, plus the writing of an image.
I agree that it would be pretty cool, but I don't know if it'd save enough time to really be worth implementing. But I'm glad you brought it up, because it's good when folks think out of the box.
Hiberate (if you're talking Windows- dunno what's on a Mac) isn't really meant to be a super-quick way to turn off your laptop, because it writes all of your memory to the hard drive. Standby is for people who want to turn a laptop off quickly...yeah, it doesn't eliminate power consumption, but I've left my computer on standby for days and have lost hardly any power.
J2ME (I mean, provided you have some portable device to really use it on, instead of just a lame cell phone emulator or whatever) is rather fun to program in. When I did it for a class, I did not program a game, but my program was relatively similar in terms of what I used from the language (it was a baseball-game scorer). Doing the UI was a snap. J2ME offers graphical/ interface program that is not only ideal for a cell phone/ PDA, but because of those concessions, it's really easy and straightforward and cool, because the interfaces are flexible and they do what you'd expect them to- MUCH better than Swing/AWT. I don't feel like writing a book, but, let me tell you, the stuff inside J2ME (from the graphics to the internet stuff, etc) is very helpful for writing games. The only annoyance was losing random (non-UI related) libraries that you had in normal Java for no apparent reason. By and large, I liked programming in J2ME as much as I do in VS/#C/.NET, and I really enjoy doing that.
It is like if Coca Cola decided to do an ad campaign in which they paid the advertisers to drink gallons of Coke and then walk down the streets with fly undone peeing the processed Coke on passersby.
Your post isn't valid HTML because it did not use the SATIRE tag, or even the now-deprecated SARCASM tag.
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You mean against a window manager, right? I don't see why not knowing the internals matters. Even if it is a black box, the documentation still tells what the code behind the interfaces is supposed to be doing, and, by-and-large,.NET developers can attest that they are at least doing just that. If there's a bug and it doesn't work as advertised it, in the port, fix it. If there's some sort of hidden side effect, in the port, eliminate it. With that, we would have an even better.NET on another platform than we do on Windows.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but have they really actually *tried* to limit it? Not helping and actually trying to limit.NET to windows are two different things.
Basically, because MS's windowing system is not in other OSes, everything behind the interfaces needs to be reimplemented. Only if MS changes the interface do they break compatibility, and, by doing that, they'd break compatibility for all Windows programmers, too.
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then there is the matter of documentation. Excuse me for being blunt, but the.NET documentation is not that great. It consists of examples in several languages and things can be pretty difficult to find.
The only difficult thing I've found with the.NET documentation is that it doesn't always come up first thing on a google search, unlike javadoc when you're looking up java classes. Other than that, it's great. It provides examples for each class in VB, C#, and C++, clearly marking which one is which. Javadoc generally doesn't provide examples. On difficult-to-use classes,.NET docs have often been my last stop before continuing programming. That has not often been the case w/ javadocs.
Also, a lot of basic descriptions for classes and methods are built right in to the IDE with intellisense, not to mention that the intellisense in VS is simply more "intelligent" than Eclipse's.
When my brother worked for a summer to clean up his old high school, he and his friend hooked up a Playstation to one of the classroom TVs and played a little MGS every day, eventually beating it. They then incorporated some of Solid Snake's best moves into their work, including trying to sneak into the bathroom without tripping the motion sensors for the lights, and hiding from their boss in boxes ("Huh? What's in the box?").
I once refered to a girl/ woman in one of my college courses as a "chick" (well, she wasn't in my class- she was an anonymous person refered to in a book), and the teacher then lead a 30 minute disscussion on whether or not that was appropriate.:-)
I'm dead serious- I WANT this. I really like the Powerbook. I think it has one of the best feature sets of any laptop on the market. And it looks sexy. But, I'm not totally sold on OS X, probably because I'm really quite productive in Windows. If I could switch back without ditching the hardware if I ended up not liking it as much, I'd be really stinkin' happy.
For those who haven't tried it, if you just scratch the surface (as I did), it's basically Word, but it has organization optimized for notetaking, and it doesn't fuss when you want to move your text somewhere else (just use the mouse), and you can just plop a drawing anywhere by just using the drawing tool. It lends itself well to doing on a computer what people do in notebooks.
Maybe there is one and I don't know about it, but one feature I was dying for was some toolbar or sidebar for easily dropping special characters, like math characters, greek letters, etc. Taking CS notes in ASCII sucked, and word processors, while they do have those characters, tend to put them in some special menu. I want them there, organized how I want them. Anybody know of a program that does that? (although it is too late, since I graduated:-/ )
That was actually a great time for OpenOffice. There's been times on this computer where it hasn't opened *at all*. Same with two other computers I have (1.1 GHz PIII, 1.4 GHz P4). One time when the PIII was exhibiting this behavior, I just let it go instead of killing the process. OOo finally opened after a HALF HOUR.
Oracle writes finicky, pain-in-the-butt to install software, what a shock that an update broke their application. When somebody sneezes around my workplace, it breaks Desktop Discoverer.
Ah, yes, but could Microsoft do it? Then it would be pretty official. And, if MS made the bootloader, Apple couldn't really take away dual-booting, could they?
I personally would love this. I'm a person who isn't overly-impressed with Mac OS X (although I think it is overall a step up from Windows). I also really like developing for the Windows platform. But I really like the design of the Powerbook. I feel it suits my tastes and needs better than any other laptop on the market. If I could run "Longhorn for Mac" someday, I'd be in heaven.
With all the external peripherals you can plug in with USB (2.0), this seems irrelevant in most cases. I used to stay away from computers with less then 3 free PCI slots, because I was always afraid I would fill them up and not have room for anything else, but now that I have a laptop, I haven't missed a beat in regards to adding the peripherals that I want.
It's not just like you throw a planet somewhere and life springs up. There are a ton of different conditions just to get life *at all*, and many more to get intelligent life.
It's not about religion. The Bible doesn't even say anything against there being intelligent life on other planets. It's about science- what we know right now really goes against there being intelligent life on other planets.
Some of us are dying to look beyond them, but OSS can offer as many or more headaches. It's not just that OO.org isn't exactly like Office, it's also that it is missing a lot of features, not to mention that it can be as slow as hell, depending on your machine.
A store that totally ignores OSS loses some respect with me, but I would have even less respect for a store that attempts to push an OSS solution as being just as good as a proprietary one, even when it's not. OO.org is a very competent word processor, but it lags behind Excel as a spreadsheet, and definitely needs some work to compare with Powerpoint.
A store that would work with the user to determine which of the two is best for him would be great. Because Office is better for some people. For the work I do now, it is much better than OO.org. For the work I did a few years ago, OO.org worked pretty well for me, and I used it extensively.
In high school, I didn't pay attention in class; I just programmed on my TI-86 instead. Senior year, I was working hard on 1984: The Game. It was supposed to be an RPG that takes you through the story, except that Winston Smith gets a machine gun and takes out the Ministry of Truth. I had the battle system and Winston's apartment pretty much done, but that was it. All I remember is that Winston had some attack involving the use of Proletariat smut....
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Right, but don't ya think that she's gotta point on providing some good migration tools? As I recall, that's what Apple does with that "Move2Mac" software they have. Yes, users should be prepared to learn some new paradigms, but their data will still be relevant.
I don't think it's that worth bugging with, for a few reasons:
1. It's quite easy just to hibernate (in Windows) instead of shutting down. In the shutdown menu in XP, in fact, it'll remember what you did last time, so you won't even have to switch anything in the combo box. I have hibernate mapped to a function key on my laptop.
2. The only reasons reboots *need* to happen any more are for hardware changes or changes to important parts of the OS. So, the computer would have to take another "post-boot" image anyway, meaning that a reboot would be a full reboot, plus the writing of an image.
I agree that it would be pretty cool, but I don't know if it'd save enough time to really be worth implementing. But I'm glad you brought it up, because it's good when folks think out of the box.
Hiberate (if you're talking Windows- dunno what's on a Mac) isn't really meant to be a super-quick way to turn off your laptop, because it writes all of your memory to the hard drive. Standby is for people who want to turn a laptop off quickly...yeah, it doesn't eliminate power consumption, but I've left my computer on standby for days and have lost hardly any power.
It must've been REALLY fun investing that computer with spyware :-).
Isn't the whole point of those is that they're *not* licensed? :-)
Or is that just the 1000-in-one N64-like gamepads?
J2ME (I mean, provided you have some portable device to really use it on, instead of just a lame cell phone emulator or whatever) is rather fun to program in. When I did it for a class, I did not program a game, but my program was relatively similar in terms of what I used from the language (it was a baseball-game scorer). Doing the UI was a snap. J2ME offers graphical/ interface program that is not only ideal for a cell phone/ PDA, but because of those concessions, it's really easy and straightforward and cool, because the interfaces are flexible and they do what you'd expect them to- MUCH better than Swing/AWT. I don't feel like writing a book, but, let me tell you, the stuff inside J2ME (from the graphics to the internet stuff, etc) is very helpful for writing games. The only annoyance was losing random (non-UI related) libraries that you had in normal Java for no apparent reason. By and large, I liked programming in J2ME as much as I do in VS/#C/.NET, and I really enjoy doing that.
It is like if Coca Cola decided to do an ad campaign in which they paid the advertisers to drink gallons of Coke and then walk down the streets with fly undone peeing the processed Coke on passersby.
...and you'll love every second of it!
Your post isn't valid HTML because it did not use the SATIRE tag, or even the now-deprecated SARCASM tag.
You mean against a window manager, right? I don't see why not knowing the internals matters. Even if it is a black box, the documentation still tells what the code behind the interfaces is supposed to be doing, and, by-and-large, .NET developers can attest that they are at least doing just that. If there's a bug and it doesn't work as advertised it, in the port, fix it. If there's some sort of hidden side effect, in the port, eliminate it. With that, we would have an even better .NET on another platform than we do on Windows.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but have they really actually *tried* to limit it? Not helping and actually trying to limit .NET to windows are two different things.
Basically, because MS's windowing system is not in other OSes, everything behind the interfaces needs to be reimplemented. Only if MS changes the interface do they break compatibility, and, by doing that, they'd break compatibility for all Windows programmers, too.
then there is the matter of documentation. Excuse me for being blunt, but the .NET documentation is not that great. It consists of examples in several languages and things can be pretty difficult to find.
.NET documentation is that it doesn't always come up first thing on a google search, unlike javadoc when you're looking up java classes. Other than that, it's great. It provides examples for each class in VB, C#, and C++, clearly marking which one is which. Javadoc generally doesn't provide examples. On difficult-to-use classes, .NET docs have often been my last stop before continuing programming. That has not often been the case w/ javadocs.
The only difficult thing I've found with the
Also, a lot of basic descriptions for classes and methods are built right in to the IDE with intellisense, not to mention that the intellisense in VS is simply more "intelligent" than Eclipse's.
When my brother worked for a summer to clean up his old high school, he and his friend hooked up a Playstation to one of the classroom TVs and played a little MGS every day, eventually beating it. They then incorporated some of Solid Snake's best moves into their work, including trying to sneak into the bathroom without tripping the motion sensors for the lights, and hiding from their boss in boxes ("Huh? What's in the box?").
I once refered to a girl/ woman in one of my college courses as a "chick" (well, she wasn't in my class- she was an anonymous person refered to in a book), and the teacher then lead a 30 minute disscussion on whether or not that was appropriate. :-)
This is what I said a while back, and I got modded to hell:
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I'm dead serious- I WANT this. I really like the Powerbook. I think it has one of the best feature sets of any laptop on the market. And it looks sexy. But, I'm not totally sold on OS X, probably because I'm really quite productive in Windows. If I could switch back without ditching the hardware if I ended up not liking it as much, I'd be really stinkin' happy.
I'll drink to that.
:-/ )
For those who haven't tried it, if you just scratch the surface (as I did), it's basically Word, but it has organization optimized for notetaking, and it doesn't fuss when you want to move your text somewhere else (just use the mouse), and you can just plop a drawing anywhere by just using the drawing tool. It lends itself well to doing on a computer what people do in notebooks.
Maybe there is one and I don't know about it, but one feature I was dying for was some toolbar or sidebar for easily dropping special characters, like math characters, greek letters, etc. Taking CS notes in ASCII sucked, and word processors, while they do have those characters, tend to put them in some special menu. I want them there, organized how I want them. Anybody know of a program that does that? (although it is too late, since I graduated
On my 1.3 GHz Pentium-M...
14 seconds OpenOffice
1.5 seconds MS Word
That was actually a great time for OpenOffice. There's been times on this computer where it hasn't opened *at all*. Same with two other computers I have (1.1 GHz PIII, 1.4 GHz P4). One time when the PIII was exhibiting this behavior, I just let it go instead of killing the process. OOo finally opened after a HALF HOUR.
Oracle writes finicky, pain-in-the-butt to install software, what a shock that an update broke their application. When somebody sneezes around my workplace, it breaks Desktop Discoverer.
Ah, yes, but could Microsoft do it? Then it would be pretty official. And, if MS made the bootloader, Apple couldn't really take away dual-booting, could they?
I personally would love this. I'm a person who isn't overly-impressed with Mac OS X (although I think it is overall a step up from Windows). I also really like developing for the Windows platform. But I really like the design of the Powerbook. I feel it suits my tastes and needs better than any other laptop on the market. If I could run "Longhorn for Mac" someday, I'd be in heaven.
With all the external peripherals you can plug in with USB (2.0), this seems irrelevant in most cases. I used to stay away from computers with less then 3 free PCI slots, because I was always afraid I would fill them up and not have room for anything else, but now that I have a laptop, I haven't missed a beat in regards to adding the peripherals that I want.
YOUR MOM'S computer!!!
Why would more evolution fix such things? The world didn't have problems like this before humans. If anything, evolution made things worse.
It's not just like you throw a planet somewhere and life springs up. There are a ton of different conditions just to get life *at all*, and many more to get intelligent life.
It's not about religion. The Bible doesn't even say anything against there being intelligent life on other planets. It's about science- what we know right now really goes against there being intelligent life on other planets.
Some of us are dying to look beyond them, but OSS can offer as many or more headaches. It's not just that OO.org isn't exactly like Office, it's also that it is missing a lot of features, not to mention that it can be as slow as hell, depending on your machine.
A store that totally ignores OSS loses some respect with me, but I would have even less respect for a store that attempts to push an OSS solution as being just as good as a proprietary one, even when it's not. OO.org is a very competent word processor, but it lags behind Excel as a spreadsheet, and definitely needs some work to compare with Powerpoint.
A store that would work with the user to determine which of the two is best for him would be great. Because Office is better for some people. For the work I do now, it is much better than OO.org. For the work I did a few years ago, OO.org worked pretty well for me, and I used it extensively.
In high school, I didn't pay attention in class; I just programmed on my TI-86 instead. Senior year, I was working hard on 1984: The Game. It was supposed to be an RPG that takes you through the story, except that Winston Smith gets a machine gun and takes out the Ministry of Truth. I had the battle system and Winston's apartment pretty much done, but that was it. All I remember is that Winston had some attack involving the use of Proletariat smut....