They have plenty of standing if the code author assigned copyright to the Free Software Foundation, which employs its lawyers for just this purpose. Harald Welte's own case against Linksys was similar (they had snarfed iptables for their wireless routers).
And here we humans had the nerve to think that we were powerful, or something. I am told anecdotally that Pompeii unleashed more total energy than all of the atomic bomb tests to date.
" Ever known a everday use home PC that never needed a reinstall at some point in it's life? My point exactly."
Yeah. All of them. I've never known a home PC that needed to be re-installed in their lifetimes. The lifetime, however, is becoming shorter. Usually I convince people to switch, or get a clue about things like security and marketing hype.
It's not the first time I've seen this sort of thing, but couldn't they just say that by simply using the site you are a user (regardless of membership status)?
Related note: IMHO the thing to ask is "what are they *really* protecting here?
SGI is selling 512-processor boxes to the Gov't. and sub-contractors. And no, I do *not* mean clusters, I mean boxes. Meanwhile, there is progress on hot-swap CPU and RAM.
>Hi all, >Is there a patch to uselib() bug -> >> http://www.isec.pl/vulnerabilities/isec-0021-useli b.txt ?
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:28:35 +0100 From: Henrik Persson To: Breno Silva Pinto Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: patch to uselib()
It's patched in 2.4.29-rc1 and 2.6.10-ac6. A patch for 2.4 can also be found here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kerne l&m=110 514006004261&w=2
and for 2.6: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel &m=110 512844202355&w=2
Browsing the archives usually gives you alot of answers, you know.;)
That is true. My point was more about the scale of punishment. Paying a few hundred million is nothing when one has billions in the bank (as a corporation). Copyright abuse is a civil matter for both natural persons *and* corporations; IMHO the protections that CxO's have under the corporate banner should not exist, in the same way that the SEC wands hedge funds to begin reporting a bit more.
The last time I checked, all people were supposed to be equal under the law. Here, we have natural persons vs corporations, it seems. Now, would somebody show me where the corporations are assuming the same responsibilities as natural persons?
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of copyright enforcement (as a GPL user). However, I'm also all in favor of equal rights and equal responsibilities. And it seems like the corporations are trying to gain "more-than-equal" rights here, without accepting the responsibilities. When was the last time you saw a CxO pay the same kind of penalties that a regular person would?
" You touched on the most important aspect of the F/OSS movement - free as in beer."
I disagree. IMHO the important aspect is "free as in freedom", which BTW works well with the service industry model.
If the dollar is all you are seeing then what are you missing and not seeing? Or, to state it another way, if your own freedom isn't worth much to you, then how do you treat others'?
IMHO, a more accurate way to state your position might have been to say that "The most important aspect of of the FOSS movement for business purposes is "free as in beer". And that is the whole crux of the matter -- what is the most important aspect for a given purpose?
Stop this obligatory oww they've been Slashdotted shit. We all know the power of the herd and don't need you making the same joke about it in EVERY... SINGLE... POST...
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You might want to contact the OSDL Linux Legal Defense dept.
They have plenty of standing if the code author assigned copyright to the Free Software Foundation, which employs its lawyers for just this purpose. Harald Welte's own case against Linksys was similar (they had snarfed iptables for their wireless routers).
Could it be that it was so broadly written that it is difficult to claim abuse?
It's kinda funny to sit there and watch something scream for a "chmod 755" in my inbox and then wonder where all the DLL's are...
Here, have a glass of milk. Would you like some cookies too?
"Where would you move that is completely safe?"
North Dakota.
Mother Earth pops a zit...
And here we humans had the nerve to think that we were powerful, or something. I am told anecdotally that Pompeii unleashed more total energy than all of the atomic bomb tests to date.
Neither is Apple, FreeBSD, Debian, etc... the list goes on.
Remember, HP got the Alpha by way of Compaq, but AMD got the Alpha engineers. Pure irony in some ways, IMHO.
I don't think it's just HP that thinks like this. I haven't had a single employer in the last 10 years who didn't act or speak in a similar way.
African atoms or European atoms?
Yeah. All of them. I've never known a home PC that needed to be re-installed in their lifetimes. The lifetime, however, is becoming shorter. Usually I convince people to switch, or get a clue about things like security and marketing hype.
It's not the first time I've seen this sort of thing, but couldn't they just say that by simply using the site you are a user (regardless of membership status)? Related note: IMHO the thing to ask is "what are they *really* protecting here?
Me anti-virus you *long* time!
More likely Joe User isn't ready for Linux, IMHO.
SGI is selling 512-processor boxes to the Gov't. and sub-contractors. And no, I do *not* mean clusters, I mean boxes. Meanwhile, there is progress on hot-swap CPU and RAM.
Why don't the monkeys have filesharing? Then they could spank themselves to death. Maybe they were humans before the MPAA got them or something.
Perhaps *now* the FCC, etc. will think long and hard about VoIP regulation as a telco, now that businesses are learning of it. One can hope.
>Hi all,i b.txt ?
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>Is there a patch to uselib() bug ->
>> http://www.isec.pl/vulnerabilities/isec-0021-usel
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:28:35 +0100
From: Henrik Persson
To: Breno Silva Pinto
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: patch to uselib()
It's patched in 2.4.29-rc1 and 2.6.10-ac6. A patch for 2.4 can also be found here:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kern
and for 2.6:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kerne
Browsing the archives usually gives you alot of answers, you know.
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Cut-n-pasted from the LKML
Yes, there are patches for it. Check out the -ac branch, or read up on it at kerneltrap.org and follow the links.
That is true. My point was more about the scale of punishment. Paying a few hundred million is nothing when one has billions in the bank (as a corporation). Copyright abuse is a civil matter for both natural persons *and* corporations; IMHO the protections that CxO's have under the corporate banner should not exist, in the same way that the SEC wands hedge funds to begin reporting a bit more.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of copyright enforcement (as a GPL user). However, I'm also all in favor of equal rights and equal responsibilities. And it seems like the corporations are trying to gain "more-than-equal" rights here, without accepting the responsibilities. When was the last time you saw a CxO pay the same kind of penalties that a regular person would?
I disagree. IMHO the important aspect is "free as in freedom", which BTW works well with the service industry model.
If the dollar is all you are seeing then what are you missing and not seeing? Or, to state it another way, if your own freedom isn't worth much to you, then how do you treat others'?
IMHO, a more accurate way to state your position might have been to say that "The most important aspect of of the FOSS movement for business purposes is "free as in beer". And that is the whole crux of the matter -- what is the most important aspect for a given purpose?
At least its before tax day (in the US). I imagine that would be a good reason for late filing!
Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of jokes like that...