Thx for the hint, my info is from HS biology, frehman bio at BYU (1985), and SUNY (various times).
I imagine the newer info is much more accurate; I'll go check it out.
Interesting note about your professor; I went thru the same thing in Project mgmt and Intro OS. I actually think the professors I had were cool, but the time frame (10 weeks) and the curriculum didn't allow such dense material to be covered adeqately, let alone do justice to the subject. As is is, I scored in the "B" (80 - 89 %) range.
Yes, I could have all sorts of DVD's, connectivity, etc. But I don't. Here's why:
[1] I don't own a cell phone, pager, or any other wireless devices (except for the radio in my car). There is nothing in my employment or personal life that says you can contact me during off hours. This is intentional on my part EG, "Don't call me, I'll call you."
[2] Excuse me, but the reason I am paying for the damn technology in the first place is for *my* convenience, not yours, ya sales scum. When I want to know something, I'll find it out myself, thanks.
WTF do you need your cellphone talking to your DVD??? Are ya gonna listen to a movie during your commute?
Thx for the info re: shape. It's quite possible you have newer info than I do, so I'll have to do some research.
I need to disclaim any semblance of objectivity here and state that I have a very hard time believing that intellectual capacity is somehow tied to size, density, etc. I'm probably agreeing with your statement that
"there's no relation to the size of the brain..."
but the geometry question intrigues me wrt folding and surface area (let alone 3-D chemistry and electomagnetic waves.)
Thanks for the wake-up call, have you any good links to research?
True, but would you build a datacenter with *zero* reserve capacity for usage spikes? Last I heard (Bio101, 15 yrs ago), we don't even know what the extra capacity is *for*, only that it is used in some way.
IANAB (I am not a biologist) but aren't there *plenty* of cases where there is no direct correlation between brain size/surface area, neuron count, and mental ability?
I'm thinking of cases like that Mexican girl who remembers her mother and child after a year in a coma and having large chunks of her brain *removed*. I'm also thinking of all the epilepsy patients, etc.
Sometimes, I just dunno, and I gotta draw the line and say "It's OK if I never know the answer to this." This may be one of those things. What do you think? (NO pun....)
In that case... if I was IBM, I'd start snarfing shares of MSFT and SUN as rapidly as legally possible, while taking pains to avoid buying SCOX. Kinda undershoots the whole argument by buying the backers, not the offenders. No, I don't know if Canopy group is publically traded, but I doubt it based on their history.
[1] I have read and re-read the book "Father, son, and Co." by Thomas J. Watson, Jr. It has had a profound impact on me. In other words, I do not claim to be un-biased.
[2] I've used linux since before IBM acknowledged its existence, AFAICT.
[3] I do not work for IBM, or even a Fortune-500.
[4] Yes, I'm feeling a bit old. But, I agree with your sentiments and have another expression for them, as follows:
sarcastic_tone = ON "Do you really think IBM got to where it is by *not* being ideological?"
Hhrrmmmm, so I am to understand that environmentalists are grousing about the possibility of a wind farm?
How about an atomic or coal-fired plant instead?
(Disclaimer: my local power company is hydro, and the fish, etc. don't seem to mind the extra habitat; they're protected from the turbines by large screens if they're dumb enough to nest there.)
Location hint: google for Niagara-Mohawk and Ontario Hydro.
#define ENOTNAM 118/* Not a XENIX named type file */
#define ENAVAIL 119/* No Xenix semaphores available */
I realize probably isn't what you're looking for ATM, but my speech and my beer isn't free, even as a US native. Of course, I've had my share of each, as far as I am able.
FWIW, it's good to see you here, and I'll probably sober up and be more useful in an hour or so. And,thanks for termcap/terminfo. No doubt, I wouldn't be able to post this without them.
That senior level MSFT execs have been taking music lessons lately? Just wondering, this new languge-naming trend has an odd consistency to it.
Of course, I'd _love_ to see somebody do the "Developers..." (Ballmer) clip in a falsetto, as if on helium. In fact, I think I'll try that on my (linux) workstation. Just for grins, of course.
Actually... that possibility was strongly hinted at on the kernel mail list in the last few weeks IIRC by Christoph Hellwig. But then again, my (organic) memory might be going to hell, and I can't be arsed to dig through gigs of e-mail backups ATM.
Very true, I agree that companies need to know what the ramifications are *before* doing anything.
The part that honestly mystifies me could be expressed as "WTF is so hard to grasp about the GPL? It's a distribution license first and foremost, it doesn't mean you can't make money from your software, and it's basically non-proprietary. Since when is being proprietary *necessary* to being profitable?"
HP, IBM, and RedHat are all making decent profits from GPL'd software, for example.
Kinda a bummer tho overall, I remember using Caldera before the dot-bust. I recall a well-engineered product (for its time). I was *very* excited and pleased when Caldera bought the SCO properties. At least now they're practicing what they're preaching, which counts towards entry-level respect in my book.
Where is Ransom Love in the middle of all this? Or Ray Noorda?
Personally, I'd be amazed if their clains hold up. I've built dozens of kernels from kernel.org and also from Suse and RH for quite a few years now.. The only thing that comes to mind immediately as possible infringement would be the EVMS (removed from the kernel last year IIRC) and JFS support. Otherwise, I think Darl McBride needs a good ol' LARTing.
Got news for ya: you might be able to reserve all kinds of rights on a specific implementation of the POSIX API's -- but what about the original idea? Hint: If I win the lottery tomorrow, I'll offer Dennis Ritchie (and Khernigan, Thompson, Pike), et al the full rights to the whole thing, gratis. They're the true owners of it all AFAIC.
Not, BTW, that any of this stuff will stop me from compiling and using my own stuff.
I *could* moderate, but it's just too emotional a topic for me FWIW.
Bingo, you just hit the nail on the head! I'd even go a bit further and say that this (becoming commoditized) represents a great success - your product is everywhere. The downside is that it may not be the kind of success you want.
I'm *really* questioning SCO's IP claims in that way, even though they claim literal plagarism/infringement.
Gen X-er, with a fairly long memory going throught the late 1960's/early 1970's USA
First computer I ever used was an IBM 407 at the University of Illinois (Champaign/Urbana) with punch cards until 1974. The game was using the computer itself.
Then there was CP/M 80 on a Kaypro II to play Blackjack and "Where in Time is Carmen San Diego?" The games were cool because you could "save" them on the second (aka "work") floppy.
After that, there was the Atari 800. The Atari could load from both tape or ROM cartridges, and save to tape besides. I thoroughly enjoyed the Sargon II chess, Asteroids, and "Downhill Skiing" games. The Atari had a set of decent manuals with the complete ASCII charts, BASIC instructions, and some code examples. There was no concept of EULA's, etc.
The Atari was cool because its capabilities blew off anything prior (in my area anyway), and you could get together with all your buddies on the weekends and hack the fsck out of it. The company had an 800-number for good ideas, IIRC.
Nowdays, I'm still playing asteroids and Gnu chess on various linux boxes, using SMP/PIII at least at 1 GHz.
My conclusion is that the games and machines will change *much* faster than human nature will. What do you think?
Um, please inform me about this "...only available for Mac OS X..." thing. It sounds cool because then maybe I could "tee" stdout (aka >&1) from/dev/audio (or whatever they use) to filename.mp3 (or whatever format).
In other words, the "streaming only, no save to disk" thing might have a hole in it. After all, if I can "cat" multiple mpeg and avi files into one big mpeg or avi movie, why couldn't I "tee" the audio out from the appropriate/dev into another file on disk?
Not that I've used OS X yet, I'd like to learn it. But I bet it's possible under linux right now.
I feel odd about giving cpu time to private enterprise, since most of my workstations are a tad "high-end" (all SMP linux boxes with large RAM).
OTOH, SARS was discovered in my town yesterday a mile or so away from me, and I'm wondering if that's just my normal "smoker's cough" in the AM. In other words, I'm more concerned about finding a cure than the business and politics of it.
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Thx for the hint, my info is from HS biology, frehman bio at BYU (1985), and SUNY (various times).
I imagine the newer info is much more accurate; I'll go check it out.
Interesting note about your professor; I went thru the same thing in Project mgmt and Intro OS. I actually think the professors I had were cool, but the time frame (10 weeks) and the curriculum didn't allow such dense material to be covered adeqately, let alone do justice to the subject. As is is, I scored in the "B" (80 - 89 %) range.
Ahhh, the joys and bliss of being *ahem* older!
Yes, I could have all sorts of DVD's, connectivity, etc. But I don't. Here's why:
[1] I don't own a cell phone, pager, or any other wireless devices (except for the radio in my car). There is nothing in my employment or personal life that says you can contact me during off hours. This is intentional on my part EG, "Don't call me, I'll call you."
[2] Excuse me, but the reason I am paying for the damn technology in the first place is for *my* convenience, not yours, ya sales scum. When I want to know something, I'll find it out myself, thanks.
WTF do you need your cellphone talking to your DVD??? Are ya gonna listen to a movie during your commute?
Thx for the info re: shape. It's quite possible you have newer info than I do, so I'll have to do some research.
I need to disclaim any semblance of objectivity here and state that I have a very hard time believing that intellectual capacity is somehow tied to size, density, etc. I'm probably agreeing with your statement that
"there's no relation to the size of the brain..."
but the geometry question intrigues me wrt folding and surface area (let alone 3-D chemistry and electomagnetic waves.)
Thanks for the wake-up call, have you any good links to research?
True, but would you build a datacenter with *zero* reserve capacity for usage spikes? Last I heard (Bio101, 15 yrs ago), we don't even know what the extra capacity is *for*, only that it is used in some way.
IANAB (I am not a biologist) but aren't there *plenty* of cases where there is no direct correlation between brain size/surface area, neuron count, and mental ability?
I'm thinking of cases like that Mexican girl who remembers her mother and child after a year in a coma and having large chunks of her brain *removed*. I'm also thinking of all the epilepsy patients, etc.
Sometimes, I just dunno, and I gotta draw the line and say "It's OK if I never know the answer to this." This may be one of those things. What do you think? (NO pun....)
In that case... if I was IBM, I'd start snarfing shares of MSFT and SUN as rapidly as legally possible, while taking pains to avoid buying SCOX. Kinda undershoots the whole argument by buying the backers, not the offenders. No, I don't know if Canopy group is publically traded, but I doubt it based on their history.
Yes, I wish for this too. However, I doubt if it's legally do-able.
Best advice I give to myself at the moment is to simply wait it all out , the legal proceedings, etc.
After all does anyone really think that the outcome of all this will alter my computing preferences?
Well, a few disclaimers before I comment:
[1] I have read and re-read the book "Father, son, and Co." by Thomas J. Watson, Jr. It has had a profound impact on me. In other words, I do not claim to be un-biased.
[2] I've used linux since before IBM acknowledged its existence, AFAICT.
[3] I do not work for IBM, or even a Fortune-500.
[4] Yes, I'm feeling a bit old. But, I agree with your sentiments and have another expression for them, as follows:
sarcastic_tone = ON "Do you really think IBM got to where it is by *not* being ideological?"
# Config sarcasm=m
All these years, I had no idea that my RH installs needed another package to "fully surf the web".
# Config actual_commentary=y
Nothing against Ximian, I've used it myself; but they deserve more thorough reviews than that sort of shallowness, IMHO.
Hhrrmmmm, so I am to understand that environmentalists are grousing about the possibility of a wind farm?
How about an atomic or coal-fired plant instead?
(Disclaimer: my local power company is hydro, and the fish, etc. don't seem to mind the extra habitat; they're protected from the turbines by large screens if they're dumb enough to nest there.)
Location hint: google for Niagara-Mohawk and Ontario Hydro.
You mean you have a problem identifying the goatse guy?
Boy, I bet now his feelings are hurt, too.
Found in /usr/include/asm/errno.h
/* Not a XENIX named type file */
/* No Xenix semaphores available */
,thanks for termcap/terminfo. No doubt, I wouldn't be able to post this without them.
#define ENOTNAM 118
#define ENAVAIL 119
I realize probably isn't what you're looking for ATM, but my speech and my beer isn't free, even as a US native. Of course, I've had my share of each, as far as I am able.
FWIW, it's good to see you here, and I'll probably sober up and be more useful in an hour or so. And
That senior level MSFT execs have been taking music lessons lately? Just wondering, this new languge-naming trend has an odd consistency to it.
Of course, I'd _love_ to see somebody do the "Developers..." (Ballmer) clip in a falsetto, as if on helium. In fact, I think I'll try that on my (linux) workstation. Just for grins, of course.
Actually... that possibility was strongly hinted at on the kernel mail list in the last few weeks IIRC by Christoph Hellwig. But then again, my (organic) memory might be going to hell, and I can't be arsed to dig through gigs of e-mail backups ATM.
Very true, I agree that companies need to know what the ramifications are *before* doing anything.
The part that honestly mystifies me could be expressed as "WTF is so hard to grasp about the GPL? It's a distribution license first and foremost, it doesn't mean you can't make money from your software, and it's basically non-proprietary. Since when is being proprietary *necessary* to being profitable?"
HP, IBM, and RedHat are all making decent profits from GPL'd software, for example.
Maybe a frame-up, but still a great lube!
They were relevant? Man I must be getting slow...
Kinda a bummer tho overall, I remember using Caldera before the dot-bust. I recall a well-engineered product (for its time). I was *very* excited and pleased when Caldera bought the SCO properties. At least now they're practicing what they're preaching, which counts towards entry-level respect in my book.
Where is Ransom Love in the middle of all this? Or Ray Noorda?
Personally, I'd be amazed if their clains hold up. I've built dozens of kernels from kernel.org and also from Suse and RH for quite a few years now.. The only thing that comes to mind immediately as possible infringement would be the EVMS (removed from the kernel last year IIRC) and JFS support. Otherwise, I think Darl McBride needs a good ol' LARTing.
Got news for ya: you might be able to reserve all kinds of rights on a specific implementation of the POSIX API's -- but what about the original idea? Hint: If I win the lottery tomorrow, I'll offer Dennis Ritchie (and Khernigan, Thompson, Pike), et al the full rights to the whole thing, gratis. They're the true owners of it all AFAIC.
Not, BTW, that any of this stuff will stop me from compiling and using my own stuff.
I *could* moderate, but it's just too emotional a topic for me FWIW.
Thank you; I thought *I* was the only one who picked up on that. ("...sadder still to watch it die, than never to have known it...")
Being less than 1/2 hr from the USA/CA border at less than 100/kph. (on the US side). (Niagara region)
Bingo, you just hit the nail on the head! I'd even go a bit further and say that this (becoming commoditized) represents a great success - your product is everywhere. The downside is that it may not be the kind of success you want.
I'm *really* questioning SCO's IP claims in that way, even though they claim literal plagarism/infringement.
last I heard, it was congress that authorized most of that spending.
I'm American by birth and will somebody
*PLEASE MOD THIS GUY UP*
That's probably one of the most truthful things I've ever seen anyone say here. Just IMHO.
Also BTW, said multinationals already exhibit no problem with outsourcing....
Other than Global Thermo-nuclear War?
Various OS's come to mind
Ok, I'll date myself and bite.....
Gen X-er, with a fairly long memory going throught the late 1960's/early 1970's USA
First computer I ever used was an IBM 407 at the University of Illinois (Champaign/Urbana) with punch cards until 1974. The game was using the computer itself.
Then there was CP/M 80 on a Kaypro II to play Blackjack and "Where in Time is Carmen San Diego?" The games were cool because you could "save" them on the second (aka "work") floppy.
After that, there was the Atari 800. The Atari could load from both tape or ROM cartridges, and save to tape besides. I thoroughly enjoyed the Sargon II chess, Asteroids, and "Downhill Skiing" games. The Atari had a set of decent manuals with the complete ASCII charts, BASIC instructions, and some code examples. There was no concept of EULA's, etc.
The Atari was cool because its capabilities blew off anything prior (in my area anyway), and you could get together with all your buddies on the weekends and hack the fsck out of it. The company had an 800-number for good ideas, IIRC.
Nowdays, I'm still playing asteroids and Gnu chess on various linux boxes, using SMP/PIII at least at 1 GHz.
My conclusion is that the games and machines will change *much* faster than human nature will. What do you think?
Furthermore, both support the George Foreman USB i-Grill, with suspiciously similar driver routines.
Um, please inform me about this "...only available for Mac OS X..." thing. It sounds cool because then maybe I could "tee" stdout (aka >&1) from /dev/audio (or whatever they use) to filename.mp3 (or whatever format).
In other words, the "streaming only, no save to disk" thing might have a hole in it. After all, if I can "cat" multiple mpeg and avi files into one big mpeg or avi movie, why couldn't I "tee" the audio out from the appropriate /dev into another file on disk?
Not that I've used OS X yet, I'd like to learn it. But I bet it's possible under linux right now.
Does anyone know if it could support the George Foreman USB i-Grill?
I feel odd about giving cpu time to private enterprise, since most of my workstations are a tad "high-end" (all SMP linux boxes with large RAM).
OTOH, SARS was discovered in my town yesterday a mile or so away from me, and I'm wondering if that's just my normal "smoker's cough" in the AM. In other words, I'm more concerned about finding a cure than the business and politics of it.