Copyright violations are normally a civil offence, meaning if you violate my copyright I can sue you. But under DCMA, if the material is in digital format violating my copyright suddenly becomes a criminal offence. Why?
Here's what I think. I think that you have a genuinely good question, and logically there shouldn't be a distinction. However, I do think that since the material is in digital format, it is not tied to a physical thing, and 'theft' of it can be instant and anonymous, and be distributed to millions in seconds (ok, maybe I'm using a bit of hyperbole)...
Since this 'new' kind of theft can bring down the system of capitalism or at the very least, have a large impact on the bottom line, the powers that be needed stronger weapons to fight against digital theft and to also keep their grasp of control held tight.
The world is changing, we're right in the middle of the turmoil, hang on, it's going to be a wild ride for the next couple of decades at least...
They cannot go directly to Verizon, they still need to go through a court clerk. Much less than a judge, but they still just can't go asking ISP directly to give stuff up and forcing them to comply.
I was going to say, "The value can drop 20g's and not be a negative integer?" and then I smiled and remembered the difference between intrinsic and market value.
I wish intrinsic and market value were always the same.
I once spent about a whole day troubleshooting really stange modem connectivity problems of 3 modems in a bank connected to a dial up machine. I could not figure out what the heck was going on, and all traditional tools I had for troublshooting and determining the source were giving me nothing to go on. Eventually I got frustrated, happen to sit back and was staring at where they modems were sitting. They were on top of a UPS. I moved them to another location and the problems magically went away!
I saw this as a great example of problems introduced into a computer system by external forces (EMF).
I don't have any great ideas now, but what I was trying to get across was, it should be relatively simple for them to query on which search terms call up no or very few results and are in an obscure area that they are or might be interested in.
They are getting a ton of data, and they are a corporation that is out to make money off their assets. Why wouldn't they make every effort to use those assets to their commercial advantage?
I will be the first to admit I've got a lot of deep seated paranioa though, it's a combination of working in security and reading too much Philip K. Dick.
We all know that Google has a pretty impressive and powerful R&D division. We also know that they are a bit shady on their privacy policy. I had the following paranoid thought a while back;
What is one of the first things that someone does when they have what they consider to be an original idea? I think most people may just go google it to see if they are right in it being an original idea. At that point, the idea isn't anything more than a spark, but what if Google's R&D division is using these sorts of sparks that they see pop up from other people's searches? There will, no doubt, be a million bad ideas, but the one great one may be worth millions, and if I submit it to google, they've got the resources to develop it, and I don't have a leg to stand on in fighting them or proving anything.
Just a thought, and yes, I took my medicine this morning.;)
Thanks. You know what is depressing though? Scare tactics really work. I'm scared, are you? Even if I do something that is 100% legal, if a big nasty corporation doesn't like it, they can put me through hell. I'm afraid that soon, just unpopular speech will get the same hell because of the man in the big white house that the corporations own.
Again and again, the word pirate to describe copyright infringers gets on my nerves.
It wasn't until people starting writing GUI/CLI DVD rippers that it became possible. Should they go after them?
This is something I have often wondered myself. The MPAA fights DeCSS so aggressively that they succeed in getting people shut down for putting the code on T-Shirts, yet nice and user friendly programs like DVD Decrypter just seem to be left alone.
Its like suing knife makers for being the cause of murders!
Yes, stupid indeed, but that has never stopped our lawsuit happy society. Don't you recall all the lawsuits against gun makers for similar reasons as your knife metaphor?
I have a basic subscription, I thought we had big pipes also!
I'm TOTALLY impressed with BitTorrent. I have 49 seconds left to go, my max download speed peaked at 250 kB/s. I'll make sure to keep it open for a while to let the rest benefit when I'm done.
BitTorrent works just fine behind NAT, just make sure to forward the port 6881 from the external interface of your NAT device to the NATted address of the machine running the BitTorrent client.
I wonder, is how the copyright police are ever going to nail someone for using something like BitTorrent, or for the more paranoid, Freenet.
When there isn't a direct point to point connection that the file is downloaded from, the only point of monitoring is the requestor node. I'm frightened of the day Patriot Act 3 (son of Patriot act 2) requires download spy on my machine to make sure I'm not helping the terrorists by downloading random bits of the latest Simpsons episode from machines that I have no knowledge of somewhere.
I have a paying redhat account. I'm using bit torrent right now to download the isos now because I'm getting only 8.7KB/s from rhn.redhat.com over http. It doesn't have to be a circumvention mechanism or used in an illicit manner.
post a link on slashdot to a FTP site with a 10 user max? I'll be waiting months to download this.
ERROR The requested URL could not be retrieved
An FTP authentication failure occurred while trying to retrieve the URL: ftp://ftp.anythingbox.com/pub/album.zip
Squid sent the following FTP command:
USER anonymous
and then received this reply
Sorry, the maximum number of allowed clients (10) already connected.
Your cache administrator is root. Generated Mon, 24 Mar 2003 00:41:47 GMT by localhost.localdomain (Squid/2.4.STABLE7)
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Excellent point, thanks. I will clarifiy what I failed to state. Arguments on the right are often, if not rarely anything but fallacies, and the left's arguments often naturally follow their own extreme fallacies to counter.
Let's be frank, is it possible to even have an intelligent debate in the public eye that isn't riddled with fallacies?
No intellectual takes Michael Moore's or GWB's 'arguments' with much weight, but they certainly do seem to get the public's panties in a bunch and serve as convincing arguments for a whole slew of those on the right and the left.
I wish we had a Cicero around these days instead of Michael Moore.
By the way, you are with us or against us.;)
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Dear Governor Bush:
From this single line, I can extrapolate Michael Moore's attitude, and deduce just about how much weight you can give anything he says (read: none)
Because an argument is polemical does not mean that it should not be given any weight. Polemics is a classic and a necessary form of argument.
I tried one of the original Audigy platinums. It seemd cheap construction, I had nothing but issues with the bios on my Dell machine, support was terrible. I realized that I wasn't going to get good audiophile quality, sound and features out of a mass market card, and went looking deeper. I didn't want to spend thousands, but I wanted something better. I had to do a lot of looking for a good sound card, I paid a bit more, but ended up with a Terratec DMX 6Fire 24/96. This card rocks although the Audigy does outdo it a bit on gaming. Check out Tom's Hardware shootout between the 6fire and the Audigy.
I play my q 10 oggs over a coax digital transport to my amp and have a pretty rocking integrated sound system.
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Here's what I think. I think that you have a genuinely good question, and logically there shouldn't be a distinction. However, I do think that since the material is in digital format, it is not tied to a physical thing, and 'theft' of it can be instant and anonymous, and be distributed to millions in seconds (ok, maybe I'm using a bit of hyperbole)...
Since this 'new' kind of theft can bring down the system of capitalism or at the very least, have a large impact on the bottom line, the powers that be needed stronger weapons to fight against digital theft and to also keep their grasp of control held tight.
The world is changing, we're right in the middle of the turmoil, hang on, it's going to be a wild ride for the next couple of decades at least...
They cannot go directly to Verizon, they still need to go through a court clerk. Much less than a judge, but they still just can't go asking ISP directly to give stuff up and forcing them to comply.
we still haven't gotten it after several thousand years.
There have been bathrooms in select episodes of ST:TNG, but never has a toilet been shown.
"There is a hopeful symbolism in the fact that flags do not wave in a vacuum."
I wish intrinsic and market value were always the same.
I saw this as a great example of problems introduced into a computer system by external forces (EMF).
Thank you for the reality check. Valid points...
I don't have any great ideas now, but what I was trying to get across was, it should be relatively simple for them to query on which search terms call up no or very few results and are in an obscure area that they are or might be interested in.
They are getting a ton of data, and they are a corporation that is out to make money off their assets. Why wouldn't they make every effort to use those assets to their commercial advantage?
I will be the first to admit I've got a lot of deep seated paranioa though, it's a combination of working in security and reading too much Philip K. Dick.
What is one of the first things that someone does when they have what they consider to be an original idea? I think most people may just go google it to see if they are right in it being an original idea. At that point, the idea isn't anything more than a spark, but what if Google's R&D division is using these sorts of sparks that they see pop up from other people's searches? There will, no doubt, be a million bad ideas, but the one great one may be worth millions, and if I submit it to google, they've got the resources to develop it, and I don't have a leg to stand on in fighting them or proving anything.
Just a thought, and yes, I took my medicine this morning. ;)
Again and again, the word pirate to describe copyright infringers gets on my nerves.
Pirating should be free as in beer :>
I knew my 4 years of Latin would come in handy sometime!
This is something I have often wondered myself. The MPAA fights DeCSS so aggressively that they succeed in getting people shut down for putting the code on T-Shirts, yet nice and user friendly programs like DVD Decrypter just seem to be left alone.
Can anyone explain this logic to me?
Yes, stupid indeed, but that has never stopped our lawsuit happy society. Don't you recall all the lawsuits against gun makers for similar reasons as your knife metaphor?
DeCSS doesn't kill people, pirates kill people!
I'm TOTALLY impressed with BitTorrent. I have 49 seconds left to go, my max download speed peaked at 250 kB/s. I'll make sure to keep it open for a while to let the rest benefit when I'm done.
BitTorrent works just fine behind NAT, just make sure to forward the port 6881 from the external interface of your NAT device to the NATted address of the machine running the BitTorrent client.
Redhat was giving me 8.7kB/s down before I found this article.
When there isn't a direct point to point connection that the file is downloaded from, the only point of monitoring is the requestor node. I'm frightened of the day Patriot Act 3 (son of Patriot act 2) requires download spy on my machine to make sure I'm not helping the terrorists by downloading random bits of the latest Simpsons episode from machines that I have no knowledge of somewhere.
I have a paying redhat account. I'm using bit torrent right now to download the isos now because I'm getting only 8.7KB/s from rhn.redhat.com over http. It doesn't have to be a circumvention mechanism or used in an illicit manner.
post a link on slashdot to a FTP site with a 10 user max? I'll be waiting months to download this.
ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved
An FTP authentication failure occurred while trying to retrieve the URL: ftp://ftp.anythingbox.com/pub/album.zip
Squid sent the following FTP command:
USER anonymous
and then received this reply
Sorry, the maximum number of allowed clients (10) already connected.
Your cache administrator is root.
Generated Mon, 24 Mar 2003 00:41:47 GMT by localhost.localdomain (Squid/2.4.STABLE7)
Let's be frank, is it possible to even have an intelligent debate in the public eye that isn't riddled with fallacies?
No intellectual takes Michael Moore's or GWB's 'arguments' with much weight, but they certainly do seem to get the public's panties in a bunch and serve as convincing arguments for a whole slew of those on the right and the left.
I wish we had a Cicero around these days instead of Michael Moore.
By the way, you are with us or against us. ;)
I play my q 10 oggs over a coax digital transport to my amp and have a pretty rocking integrated sound system.