If MS has the patent, then surely they can produce iPod look-a-likes and Apple can't sue them since they hold the patent?
Apple would first have to spend a ton of money (and more importantly years) getting the patent overturned. During this time MS could undermine their sales of iPods, and thus a large chunk of thier income. Even after getting the patent overturned they'd have to then open another legal battle to get MS to back pay licensing fees. Would apple have the cash to maintain this much litigation against those deep MS pockets?
1. Bash Microsoft no matter what they do. 2. Get mod points 3. ??? 4. Profit!
As always this is slashdot. If MS closed up shop, put their source code in the public domain, and gave all their money to starving street kids, close to half the posts would be insulting them or questioning their motives.
Still cheaper to assemble your own (at least where I live), assuming your not going for a high spec machine. And if you're going for a high spec machine, you don't want a mac mini.
Still, I think its wrong to love any one computer/OS. They all have their issues, they all have their good points, and if someone says that one is obviously superior to all others in all fields, then they are either blind or a liar.
That said, I still stand by my saying that calling macs expensive is not a troll. They are expensive to some people, those kind of people who don't care about noise and stylishly compact boxes.:)
Admittedly I may be biased since I live in South Africa. If I take the US prices for mac mini's and multiply by our exchange rate, I'd get +-R3200 for the mac mini. At that price, I'd buy one.
Buying the cheapest mac mini from apple in this country will put me back R4799 (+- $738). Yet, our PC prices are much more in line with the exchange rate, a PC that costs $499 in the US would probably only put me back R3500 here.
So sorry, I am basing it on what prices I pay, and it does seem that in the US things are a little different.
The question is, if we added a class to US schools where religions were taught, would the people pushing for intelligent design and creationism accept buddhism, taoism and paganism in its various forms (plus many others).
Maybe they would, but I doubt it. These people want THEIR religion taught, not ALL religions taught. Which makes it a bit more of a problem in my eyes.
I dunno about in the US, but where I live the mac mini is still way more expensive than a similarly speced windows box.
While you can claim the mac have style, good looks and ease of use etc. To those of us who want the most power, macs are overpriced. It's not trolling to say so since most slashdot users can get on fine with harder to use UI (or command promt) and an ugly box under the desk.
Its been at least a month since I was last meta moderated badly. Though given the lack of moderations happening today, I'm pretty sure we're not the only ones not getting any mod points.
Intrestingly, as the number of moderations dropped, the percentage of bad mods to good mods changed quite a lot. Seems the people who store their mod points are more likely to mod down.
Oh wait thats just because we actually are offtopic.;)
My introduction to Macs was when I had to work on a G3 with its little breast implant of a mouse. Perhaps it tainted me, I know mac topics are where I burn up all the karma I get from other topics.:)
And you conviniently didn't read the last sentence of the quote? You can say what you want, that little bit of marketing speak was definitely aimed at sounding like they've added right click functionality without making it less intuitive.
So instead of two buttons which you use two fingers to use, we have one sensor that you use two fingers to use, and it translates it into either a left click or a right click. They then put a speaker in the thing so that it can make a click sound.
I honestly could care less whether a mouse uses two switches or one intelligent sensor, if you are using two fingers to get two seperate results with the mouse, it has two buttons.
And don't worry, I'm not angry, marketing speak just makes me say WTF a lot.;)
From the site: "Alas the fate of the one-button mouse in today's multibutton world. Who has time for intuitive, elegant design when there is so much clicking to do? Thanks to a smooth top shell with touch-sensitive technology beneath, Mighty Mouse allows you to right click without a right button."
WTF?? How does making two buttons look like one, make this more intuitive? Elegant, maybe; intuitive, no fucking way.
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Maybe the commercial sector will be the one to get a cheap reusable solution going well. But with this proposed cargo rocket carrying 100 tons, the they will have a lot of work to do to catch up as far as moving cargo goes.
Whether you agree with it or not, NASA is planning on getting to the moon again, and then to mars; and that trip won't likely be accomplished by a ship that launches from the ground. Moving large amounts of cargo is important to NASA as it will be needed to accomplish their goals.
The way I see it, companies will begin to improve the methods of getting people and small amounts of cargo into orbit, while NASA starts innovating again, but this time in interplanetary travel.
Living in South Africa myself, I can attest to the need for this.
I pay R1000 (+-$150) a month for my 512k ADSL, and that is capped at 3gb per month. Though more and more options are springing up with bigger caps, none of them are cheap by international standards. So with a 3 gig cap I'm always loathed to download even a single cd ISO on any other day than the last of the month.
Many IT people can only expect to earn +- R5000 a month when they are just starting out, means that for them to have ADSL they have to fork out 1/5th of their salary. And even our local telephone calls are expensive, meaning a single CD ISO could cost around R140 to download in telephone bills.
I just so happens that I've been experiencing ping issues when gaming because of the girlfriend browsing/mail downloading/etc, and I just so happens to have an old pc (celeron 400, 64megs, cdrom, stiffy, no HDD & two old network cards) lying around.
Now gaming routers are damn near impossible to find here, and they costly enough that I'd never bother buying one.
Its times like this that I remember why I read slashdot.:)
You say you know nothing, that its just your PC automatically connecting.
The guy didn't just accidentally get connected to the wifi network just once. He repeatedly returned to the area and sat outside the guys house in his car. When people walked past he would close his laptop.
So now slashdotters are trying to claim that because the network was not secured, the fact that this guy went out of his way to use/abuse isn't wrong.
If you walked into a forest every day for 3 months, and everytime the owner or one of his neighbours came past you hid or ran away (acting suspiciously), you definitely could end up paying a fine for trespassing.
Apparently, a wifi login *isn't* the electronic proxy for the person.
I can compare this to an open home, you to cell phones, another to bar with bouncers and yet another to joyriding a car.
In the end wifi products are shipped from the factories without security features enabled. Setting them up is easy, securing them requires a bit more knowledge. People such as this man abuse this knowledge. He knows, *YOU* know that in all likelyhood the owner of the wifi would not let anyone join his network if he knew how to secure it. Lack of knowledge on how to secure something, does not make it legal for all to use. In fact when people walked past his car he'd quickly shut his laptop. He knew he was guilty.
Man 1: "Knock knock", Man 2: Door swings open by itself. Man 1: Goes in. Man 1 repeats this many times over a 3 month period....
Man 2: Police arrest that man. Man 1: But I knocked and the door opened Man 2: But that was a misconfiguration, if I wanted you to come in I would have said so myself.
A wireless router is not a person, and therefor cannot be compared to the person saying come in.
- Anyone who really cares about css compatibility is using another browser already. - People who still use IE exclusivly will want IE 7 to work on all their favourite websites perfectly. - Fixing the browsers compatibility and still having it work with the old stuff is probably going to prove challenging and time consuming. And as others have already pointed out, they are more concerned with security right now.
Also, I think maintaining the broken css rendering helps them as long as sites continue to be developed and tested only on IE.
Anyway, maybe everyone here should make the effort to test IE 7 and then send a bug pointing out that it fails the acid test.
I have no problem with a country limiting who's allowed to live there (taking up jobs and land etc).
I do have a problem with someone (the person I originally replied to) implying that there is a lot of immigration into Japan, and then going on to imply that it's racist to claim otherwise.
Was just pointing out that he cannot claim there is a lot of immigration into Japan, not commenting on morality of their laws.
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If MS has the patent, then surely they can produce iPod look-a-likes and Apple can't sue them since they hold the patent?
Apple would first have to spend a ton of money (and more importantly years) getting the patent overturned. During this time MS could undermine their sales of iPods, and thus a large chunk of thier income. Even after getting the patent overturned they'd have to then open another legal battle to get MS to back pay licensing fees. Would apple have the cash to maintain this much litigation against those deep MS pockets?
Its just that the article itself is a bit redundant.
1. Bash Microsoft no matter what they do.
2. Get mod points
3. ???
4. Profit!
As always this is slashdot. If MS closed up shop, put their source code in the public domain, and gave all their money to starving street kids, close to half the posts would be insulting them or questioning their motives.
Still cheaper to assemble your own (at least where I live), assuming your not going for a high spec machine. And if you're going for a high spec machine, you don't want a mac mini.
Still, I think its wrong to love any one computer/OS. They all have their issues, they all have their good points, and if someone says that one is obviously superior to all others in all fields, then they are either blind or a liar.
That said, I still stand by my saying that calling macs expensive is not a troll. They are expensive to some people, those kind of people who don't care about noise and stylishly compact boxes. :)
Admittedly I may be biased since I live in South Africa. If I take the US prices for mac mini's and multiply by our exchange rate, I'd get +-R3200 for the mac mini. At that price, I'd buy one.
Buying the cheapest mac mini from apple in this country will put me back R4799 (+- $738). Yet, our PC prices are much more in line with the exchange rate, a PC that costs $499 in the US would probably only put me back R3500 here.
So sorry, I am basing it on what prices I pay, and it does seem that in the US things are a little different.
The question is, if we added a class to US schools where religions were taught, would the people pushing for intelligent design and creationism accept buddhism, taoism and paganism in its various forms (plus many others).
Maybe they would, but I doubt it. These people want THEIR religion taught, not ALL religions taught. Which makes it a bit more of a problem in my eyes.
I dunno about in the US, but where I live the mac mini is still way more expensive than a similarly speced windows box.
While you can claim the mac have style, good looks and ease of use etc. To those of us who want the most power, macs are overpriced. It's not trolling to say so since most slashdot users can get on fine with harder to use UI (or command promt) and an ugly box under the desk.
Aha! Slashdot heard my call and my 5 mod points arrived. Now to mod you into oblivion. ...
Oh crap, I've already posted here...
Its been at least a month since I was last meta moderated badly. Though given the lack of moderations happening today, I'm pretty sure we're not the only ones not getting any mod points.
;)
Intrestingly, as the number of moderations dropped, the percentage of bad mods to good mods changed quite a lot. Seems the people who store their mod points are more likely to mod down.
Oh wait thats just because we actually are offtopic.
Mod point to hand out, not mod points on my own posts.
I get the feeling the mod points arn't being handed out at all. I usually get mod points every other day, yet haven't had since last week.
My introduction to Macs was when I had to work on a G3 with its little breast implant of a mouse. Perhaps it tainted me, I know mac topics are where I burn up all the karma I get from other topics. :)
And you conviniently didn't read the last sentence of the quote? You can say what you want, that little bit of marketing speak was definitely aimed at sounding like they've added right click functionality without making it less intuitive.
Okay.
;)
So instead of two buttons which you use two fingers to use, we have one sensor that you use two fingers to use, and it translates it into either a left click or a right click. They then put a speaker in the thing so that it can make a click sound.
I honestly could care less whether a mouse uses two switches or one intelligent sensor, if you are using two fingers to get two seperate results with the mouse, it has two buttons.
And don't worry, I'm not angry, marketing speak just makes me say WTF a lot.
From the site: "Alas the fate of the one-button mouse in today's multibutton world. Who has time for intuitive, elegant design when there is so much clicking to do? Thanks to a smooth top shell with touch-sensitive technology beneath, Mighty Mouse allows you to right click without a right button."
WTF?? How does making two buttons look like one, make this more intuitive? Elegant, maybe; intuitive, no fucking way.
Maybe the commercial sector will be the one to get a cheap reusable solution going well. But with this proposed cargo rocket carrying 100 tons, the they will have a lot of work to do to catch up as far as moving cargo goes.
Whether you agree with it or not, NASA is planning on getting to the moon again, and then to mars; and that trip won't likely be accomplished by a ship that launches from the ground. Moving large amounts of cargo is important to NASA as it will be needed to accomplish their goals.
The way I see it, companies will begin to improve the methods of getting people and small amounts of cargo into orbit, while NASA starts innovating again, but this time in interplanetary travel.
Living in South Africa myself, I can attest to the need for this.
I pay R1000 (+-$150) a month for my 512k ADSL, and that is capped at 3gb per month. Though more and more options are springing up with bigger caps, none of them are cheap by international standards. So with a 3 gig cap I'm always loathed to download even a single cd ISO on any other day than the last of the month.
Many IT people can only expect to earn +- R5000 a month when they are just starting out, means that for them to have ADSL they have to fork out 1/5th of their salary. And even our local telephone calls are expensive, meaning a single CD ISO could cost around R140 to download in telephone bills.
Something like this will definitely have uses.
I just so happens that I've been experiencing ping issues when gaming because of the girlfriend browsing/mail downloading/etc, and I just so happens to have an old pc (celeron 400, 64megs, cdrom, stiffy, no HDD & two old network cards) lying around.
:)
Now gaming routers are damn near impossible to find here, and they costly enough that I'd never bother buying one.
Its times like this that I remember why I read slashdot.
You say you know nothing, that its just your PC automatically connecting.
The guy didn't just accidentally get connected to the wifi network just once. He repeatedly returned to the area and sat outside the guys house in his car. When people walked past he would close his laptop.
So now slashdotters are trying to claim that because the network was not secured, the fact that this guy went out of his way to use/abuse isn't wrong.
If you walked into a forest every day for 3 months, and everytime the owner or one of his neighbours came past you hid or ran away (acting suspiciously), you definitely could end up paying a fine for trespassing.
Apparently, a wifi login *isn't* the electronic proxy for the person.
I can compare this to an open home, you to cell phones, another to bar with bouncers and yet another to joyriding a car.
In the end wifi products are shipped from the factories without security features enabled. Setting them up is easy, securing them requires a bit more knowledge. People such as this man abuse this knowledge. He knows, *YOU* know that in all likelyhood the owner of the wifi would not let anyone join his network if he knew how to secure it. Lack of knowledge on how to secure something, does not make it legal for all to use. In fact when people walked past his car he'd quickly shut his laptop. He knew he was guilty.
A more accurate representation.
...
Man 1: "Knock knock",
Man 2: Door swings open by itself.
Man 1: Goes in.
Man 1 repeats this many times over a 3 month period.
Man 2: Police arrest that man.
Man 1: But I knocked and the door opened
Man 2: But that was a misconfiguration, if I wanted you to come in I would have said so myself.
A wireless router is not a person, and therefor cannot be compared to the person saying come in.
I think IE have a problem.
- Anyone who really cares about css compatibility is using another browser already.
- People who still use IE exclusivly will want IE 7 to work on all their favourite websites perfectly.
- Fixing the browsers compatibility and still having it work with the old stuff is probably going to prove challenging and time consuming. And as others have already pointed out, they are more concerned with security right now.
Also, I think maintaining the broken css rendering helps them as long as sites continue to be developed and tested only on IE.
Anyway, maybe everyone here should make the effort to test IE 7 and then send a bug pointing out that it fails the acid test.
I have no problem with a country limiting who's allowed to live there (taking up jobs and land etc).
I do have a problem with someone (the person I originally replied to) implying that there is a lot of immigration into Japan, and then going on to imply that it's racist to claim otherwise.
Was just pointing out that he cannot claim there is a lot of immigration into Japan, not commenting on morality of their laws.
Also in the article I linked to: "Singapore at 33 percent, ... Abidjan, Ivory Coast, at 30 percent"
One Asian, one African.