Older but still heavily used DOS based Medical and Accounting packages WILL NOT reliably use a samba machine for a SMB share. [snip] it keeps losing data or losing the connection.
We ran into something similar in my former place of work, and IIRC it got solved shortly after I left.
If you're interested, I can try to dig up the details for you.
If you would actually consider implementing Samba as a primary authentication service in a production environment then you are utterly mad. Even Samba-TNG will not be suitable for quite some time now for anything outside of a home network.
Administering Samba is a pain in the ass, frankly.
Normally I don't respond to anonymous cowards. Normally I do not feed trolls, either.
So I won't. However, I shall say that, as a former network admin at a college, I did find Samba useful "outside of a home network." VERY useful.
Yes, I had to maintain two username databases (but only one password database). Big effing deal. So I wrote a script (yawn) -- not difficult to do, and it takes that script all of about 80 seconds to create all the usernames needed at the beginning of Fall Term (while doing the same job in NT/2000 takes days).
Samba a pain in the ass? (chuckling over the parent poster's cluelessness) Not even! It cut my workload down to about one-third of what it took to administer the same file server when it was running NT!
Right now the job situation for us tech-folks really stinks. So how about paying at least some of us highly-educated-but-unemployed to work fulltime, hunting down those deceptive spammers and shutting them down?
Back when the American West was being settled, some communities were paying bounties to people who killed & brought in the bodies of unwanted varmints and pests (such as wolves, coyotes, poisonous snakes, etc.)
Now, I've long been an advocate of giving spammer-hunting the same legal status as duck hunting (suggested bag limit: two per day, no more than five carcasses in your possession) -- but paying a bounty to hunt them down and bring in the bodies? Now, there's an idea I LIKE!
The people sending what the US Postal Service calls "bulk mail" are actually PAYING to send that crap. In fact, it's a major revenue stream for the Postal Service.
Since they're actually paying their own way, it's unlikely that there will ever be any laws forbidding junk snail-mail (at least in the U.S.).
Quoth the article: "Almost all of the current state laws are completely useless and counterproductive," Sorkin said. "The state laws go after the symptoms of the spam, but don't address the central problem...."
(nodding head knowingly) Yup. Spam cannot be dealt with on a state-by-state basis. First, there's the problem of prosecuting someone who isn't even in the country and secondly, how does a prosecutor prove that the spammer knew that the email recipient lived in this or that state of the U.S.?
Legislators have this huge urge to "do something" about every problem that plagues man, and I admire them for their Good Intentions. But when it comes to something like this, they might as well try to outlaw bad weather during the State Fair.
They deregulated the power companies in California, where are we now?
What happened in California wasn't deregulation; it was something that the politicians called "deregulation" but had about as much to do with real deregulation as Bill Clinton had to do with protecting the honor of chaste young women.
Please don't blame California's power problems on deregulation. Deregulation of electric power has never been tried in California.
Anyone know how Schmitt will view the relative security of closed versus open source?"
Yes, I do know.
He likes Open Source. Put your fears to rest. Yes, he worked for the Borg, but they never assimilated him. In fact, he was VERY happy to get out of there.
I know him, and I know some other people who know him better than I do. He's a lot closer to our views than he is to Micro$oft's.
There I go, getting all excited that the classic TI99/4a sideways scrolling shoot-em up is going to made open source.
Yeah, me too. The only reason I still have my old TI99/4A is so I can play that game! Got the voice module too, so I can hear the female robot voice telling me, "Alien craft advancing... nice shot, pilot!"
Can you buy those anywhere? I looked on ebay a while ago, but came up empty.
I want my parsec!
Not from me! You can have my Parsec when you unwrap my cold, dead fingers from around it....
I want to believe. But I can't make myself believe.
I know what you mean... I once saw a UFO myself. The person who was with me is convinced that we saw an alien spacecraft that night, but I'm a good deal more skeptical. To this day I still have no idea what in the hell could have moved and turned that fast, but I'm happy to just accept it as "unidentified" and leave it at that.
So at a tech conference about a year ago, I met this guy working for the company formerly known as Bell Labs. He claims that it's common insider knowledge there that the transistor wasn't actually invented by them; it was reverse-engineered from some transistors that were found in the wreckage of that crashed UFO at Roswell NM!
Uh... ri-i-i-i-ght.... Funny how I can all of a sudden hear the notes to the theme song of the "Twilight Zone" TV show playing in my head.... It takes all kinds to make a world, I guess.
I will go in Monday WILL PROMPTLY FIRE the admin if any of our systems are compromised.
I wish there were more bosses like you. It's frustrating to me that someone like me, who knows what he's doing, can't find work while at the same time lots of ignorami are blissfully employed -- totally unaware of the damage they're doing to the Internet.
Most people have no business driving pickup trucks on the road, either.
It is not your place to decide for other people what is, or is not, their business. It is not ANYONE'S place to decide for other people what kind(s) of cars they will be allowed to own, how many kids they'll be allowed to have, what they will be allowed to eat, or anything else.
I, too, am annoyed by city people driving large 4WD's that appear to never leave the pavement. I think they're stupid. But I will defend to the death their right to make their own decisions about what kind of car to own.
You kids these days don't understand how easy you have it. Why, back in MY days...
... obligatory comments about walking barefoot through the snow uphill both ways snipped...
I remember my first computer job at a Radio Shack computer center. Some guy had been begging his wife for months to let him buy a hard drive, and she finally let him. I think it was Christmas or something. It was $2,800 (US) and was the size of a mini-tower case laid down flat. I can't remember whether it was a 5 MB or a 10 MB drive.
This would have been... let me think... must 'a been the winter of '84/85... yep, them were the good old days, when floppies were 5 1/4 inches and women were grateful, or something like that.
And when we connected with a modem, we had to flip a switch on the modem with our bare hands! 300 bits per second, BOTH WAYS, by thunder!
Would you view regulation or mandatory certification as a good thing in the computer repair/installation/maintenance world?
ABSOLUTELY NOT!
So-called "professional licenses" are a huge intrusion into personal liberty and should be abolished, with the possible exception of doctors and drivers of large trucks. It is none of the government's goddamn business who fixes my car, cuts my hair, mows my lawn or does any number of other activities for which I am perfectly capable of making my own choices. This is NOT within the proper role of government.
Government should only do for people what they cannot do for themselves (example: provide for the common defense), and the Free Market is much better at sorting the good apples from the bad than some bureaucrat who has never done an honest days' work in his life, but is in charge of deciding who is (and who is not) qualified to wipe other people's asses for them.
Do you honestly think licensing and certification would improve the computer repair trades? HA! The country is already full of MCSE's who don't know their asses from a hole in the ground, and the only thing licensing would do is insure that only those who have been through the industry's brainwas^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H stupid, expensive classes that teach products instead of concepts, would ever be allowed to touch a computer.
GONE would be the opportunity for an intelligent young person from a poor family to pull zirself up by zir bootstraps, or work zir way through college, or survive while between jobs.
The trades are full of incompetent people who are never the less certified and licensed. All of the Government regulations in the world are doing little to no good for the public. Professional licenses are the trades' equivalent of closed-source software: they're an anti-free-market mechanism to keep prices artificially high by providing a barrier-to-entry to the marketplace. They also give Government a great deal of leverage to control peoples' lives: for instance, some states now revoke professional licenses if some poor soul happens to fall behind in his child support payments.
Here in the People's Republic of Oregon the bureaucrats started requiring a stupid little "junior electrician's" license a decade ago to run network wiring, telephone wiring, burglar alarm wiring and air-conditioner-thermostat wiring. I had been doing heating/refrigeration/air conditioning for 10-15 years and was changing careers into the computer field. So I applied for their stupid little rinkydink electrician's license.
What came back from the State was a form that I had to take to everyone I had ever worked for (all of my years running my own businesses didn't count) and get them to sign & notarize a statement that while I had worked for them I had spent so many hours running wiring, so many hours laying pipe, so many hours changing filters, so many hours picking butt-nuggets out of my ass, and so forth, showing that I had at least two years' experience running thermostat wires. Gimme a break. It doesn't take two goddamn years to learn how to run low-voltage wire that is never going to kill anyone or start any fires. Further, no employer that I've ever worked for ever kept any records on how many hours their employees spent doing various activities: we did whatever needed to be done to keep people's beer cold and never worried about how much of it involved putting in refrigerant or changing a valve or running a wire.
Next, I found out that even if I COULD document all of my wire-pulling, it would certify me ONLY to run thermostat wire: it takes another two years to learn how to run telephone wire. And another two to learn how to run network cabling. And let's not even get started talking about fire & burglar alarm wiring.
So, it isn't legal for me to do HVAC/R in the Nanny State of Oregon any more. No, we're all too stupid to figure out on our own who is competent enough to run a piece of low-voltage wiring. We're all a lot better off sucking on the giant teat of Government and letting it make all of our decisions for us.
And now, you want some bureaucrat who wouldn't recognize a motherboard if one came up and spread its legs in front of him, to decide who gets to fix computers? Gimme a break. Better yet, gimme a drink... better make it a strong one. Oh wait, I forgot: you need a license before you can serve alcohol to anyone....
Warning: Some ideologies on the Net are smaller than they appear.
Yes, and the myth that it is a "well-respected theory within the scientific community" is one of them.
There has been a great deal of misinformation, propaganda and flat-out Junk Science on this issue disseminated in the last decade or so -- including statements from so-called "scientific societies" that turn out to contain nothing more than cosmetologists, psychologists, gynecologists, et. al.
The FACTS remain that there is NO scientific consensus on the issue, regardless Al Gore's unsubstantiated claims in his Earth in the Balance polemic. The only reliable data on the subject, a Gallup Poll, shows that the majority of climatologists do not believe that global warming is human-caused.
You are correct that information on Global Warming is easy to find, such as here, here, here and here among others too numerous to list.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but "global warming" isn't real.
There have been some thirty years of questionable "studies" (read: politicized science) that favor the political agenda of the Left, yet somehow it was never reported in the mainstream Press.
From Kellermann's shameful "research" concluding that a gun in the home is x times more likely to kill you or a loved one than an intruder (and he couldn't even get x in the same order of magnitude when he repeated the study) to the spotted owl bullshit to today's "global warming" scaremongering, all or most of what passes for government-sponsored "science" has lacked credibility for a long, long time.
But somehow, this was never "news."
But let the Bush Administration follow any kind of science -- and I haven't educated myself on the specifics of the present brouhaha, so I use the word "science" lightly here -- that Leftists don't agree with, and suddenly we're all going to Hell in a handbasket!
I don't think so. We were already well on our way long before GW ever came into power.
Will the alleged "conservative" politicization of Science destroy the reputation of government-sponsored "research?" I think not. Its credibility was destroyed decades ago -- by "liberals."
For the record, I am not a "conservative." At least, not in the sense that the word is being used in America.
I'll never forget the disappointment I felt when I realized that the Commodore VIC-20 (which you had endorsed in their advertisements) was... well, I'll just say it bluntly: a piece of junk.
I lost a lot of respect for you after that, and it was years before I began thinking well of you again. Did you ever feel embarrassed with your decision to endorse that product?
It's the PHBs, too. Microsoft FUD has so completely blown over the non-technical that anyone espousing an anti-MS thought....
...is FIRED. I've been excommunicated from two jobs in the last year by pointy-haired High Priests -- er, ah, I mean MCSE's -- because I dared to challenge the FUD -- er, ah, I mean the One True Religion -- of Micro$oft.
Believe me, the folks in the article have ample reason to fear speaking out. The PHB's only need to "make an example of" a few people like me to make everyone else fall into line.
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Older but still heavily used DOS based Medical and Accounting packages WILL NOT reliably use a samba machine for a SMB share. [snip] it keeps losing data or losing the connection.
We ran into something similar in my former place of work, and IIRC it got solved shortly after I left.
If you're interested, I can try to dig up the details for you.
If you would actually consider implementing Samba as a primary authentication service in a production environment then you are utterly mad. Even Samba-TNG will not be suitable for quite some time now for anything outside of a home network.
Administering Samba is a pain in the ass, frankly.
Normally I don't respond to anonymous cowards. Normally I do not feed trolls, either.
So I won't. However, I shall say that, as a former network admin at a college, I did find Samba useful "outside of a home network." VERY useful.
Yes, I had to maintain two username databases (but only one password database). Big effing deal. So I wrote a script (yawn) -- not difficult to do, and it takes that script all of about 80 seconds to create all the usernames needed at the beginning of Fall Term (while doing the same job in NT/2000 takes days).
Samba a pain in the ass? (chuckling over the parent poster's cluelessness) Not even! It cut my workload down to about one-third of what it took to administer the same file server when it was running NT!
Right now the job situation for us tech-folks really stinks. So how about paying at least some of us highly-educated-but-unemployed to work fulltime, hunting down those deceptive spammers and shutting them down?
Back when the American West was being settled, some communities were paying bounties to people who killed & brought in the bodies of unwanted varmints and pests (such as wolves, coyotes, poisonous snakes, etc.)
Now, I've long been an advocate of giving spammer-hunting the same legal status as duck hunting (suggested bag limit: two per day, no more than five carcasses in your possession) -- but paying a bounty to hunt them down and bring in the bodies? Now, there's an idea I LIKE!
Here's why this will never happen.
The people sending what the US Postal Service calls "bulk mail" are actually PAYING to send that crap. In fact, it's a major revenue stream for the Postal Service.
Since they're actually paying their own way, it's unlikely that there will ever be any laws forbidding junk snail-mail (at least in the U.S.).
Quoth the article: "Almost all of the current state laws are completely useless and counterproductive," Sorkin said. "The state laws go after the symptoms of the spam, but don't address the central problem...."
(nodding head knowingly) Yup. Spam cannot be dealt with on a state-by-state basis. First, there's the problem of prosecuting someone who isn't even in the country and secondly, how does a prosecutor prove that the spammer knew that the email recipient lived in this or that state of the U.S.?
Legislators have this huge urge to "do something" about every problem that plagues man, and I admire them for their Good Intentions. But when it comes to something like this, they might as well try to outlaw bad weather during the State Fair.
They deregulated the power companies in California, where are we now?
What happened in California wasn't deregulation; it was something that the politicians called "deregulation" but had about as much to do with real deregulation as Bill Clinton had to do with protecting the honor of chaste young women.
Please don't blame California's power problems on deregulation. Deregulation of electric power has never been tried in California.
Anyone know how Schmitt will view the relative security of closed versus open source?"
Yes, I do know.
He likes Open Source. Put your fears to rest. Yes, he worked for the Borg, but they never assimilated him. In fact, he was VERY happy to get out of there.
I know him, and I know some other people who know him better than I do. He's a lot closer to our views than he is to Micro$oft's.
There I go, getting all excited that the classic TI99/4a sideways scrolling shoot-em up is going to made open source.
Yeah, me too. The only reason I still have my old TI99/4A is so I can play that game! Got the voice module too, so I can hear the female robot voice telling me, "Alien craft advancing... nice shot, pilot!"
Can you buy those anywhere? I looked on ebay a while ago, but came up empty.
I want my parsec!
Not from me! You can have my Parsec when you unwrap my cold, dead fingers from around it....
I want to believe. But I can't make myself believe.
I know what you mean... I once saw a UFO myself. The person who was with me is convinced that we saw an alien spacecraft that night, but I'm a good deal more skeptical. To this day I still have no idea what in the hell could have moved and turned that fast, but I'm happy to just accept it as "unidentified" and leave it at that.
So at a tech conference about a year ago, I met this guy working for the company formerly known as Bell Labs. He claims that it's common insider knowledge there that the transistor wasn't actually invented by them; it was reverse-engineered from some transistors that were found in the wreckage of that crashed UFO at Roswell NM!
Uh... ri-i-i-i-ght.... Funny how I can all of a sudden hear the notes to the theme song of the "Twilight Zone" TV show playing in my head.... It takes all kinds to make a world, I guess.
I will go in Monday WILL PROMPTLY FIRE the admin if any of our systems are compromised.
I wish there were more bosses like you. It's frustrating to me that someone like me, who knows what he's doing, can't find work while at the same time lots of ignorami are blissfully employed -- totally unaware of the damage they're doing to the Internet.
My hat is off to you, sir.
I always pronounce it "squeal"....
Most people have no business driving pickup trucks on the road, either.
It is not your place to decide for other people what is, or is not, their business. It is not ANYONE'S place to decide for other people what kind(s) of cars they will be allowed to own, how many kids they'll be allowed to have, what they will be allowed to eat, or anything else.
I, too, am annoyed by city people driving large 4WD's that appear to never leave the pavement. I think they're stupid. But I will defend to the death their right to make their own decisions about what kind of car to own.
When was the last time you NEEDED four-wheel drive?
Day before yesterday. Any more questions?
And in Soviet Russia, the prosecutors give Jesus cancer!
His sixth book, Faith of the Fallen, is the best of the series. It's pretty clear that Goodkind had just read Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged.
My LEAST favorite book in the series is the second. Too violent and the battle scenes were ridiculous.
I hope that whoever "takeover" the Mandrake operation will make it even stronger than Debian.
I just hope it isn't Micro$oft (shudder). Remember how magnanimous they were about "helping" Corel in their time of trouble?
Look at the poles, and I think that you will agree that everyone is waking up from the Tuesday morning hangover that brought us this mess.
Huh? What happened in Poland? Last I knew, they were a Communinst country....
Go to this URL [capwiz.com] and set a bookmark to your elected folks and keep their inboxes stuffed with your /. wisdom.
Hell, one of MY "elected folks" READS slashdot!
You kids these days don't understand how easy you have it. Why, back in MY days...
I remember my first computer job at a Radio Shack computer center. Some guy had been begging his wife for months to let him buy a hard drive, and she finally let him. I think it was Christmas or something. It was $2,800 (US) and was the size of a mini-tower case laid down flat. I can't remember whether it was a 5 MB or a 10 MB drive.
This would have been... let me think... must 'a been the winter of '84/85... yep, them were the good old days, when floppies were 5 1/4 inches and women were grateful, or something like that.
And when we connected with a modem, we had to flip a switch on the modem with our bare hands! 300 bits per second, BOTH WAYS, by thunder!
Would you view regulation or mandatory certification as a good thing in the computer repair/installation/maintenance world?
ABSOLUTELY NOT!
So-called "professional licenses" are a huge intrusion into personal liberty and should be abolished, with the possible exception of doctors and drivers of large trucks. It is none of the government's goddamn business who fixes my car, cuts my hair, mows my lawn or does any number of other activities for which I am perfectly capable of making my own choices. This is NOT within the proper role of government.
Government should only do for people what they cannot do for themselves (example: provide for the common defense), and the Free Market is much better at sorting the good apples from the bad than some bureaucrat who has never done an honest days' work in his life, but is in charge of deciding who is (and who is not) qualified to wipe other people's asses for them.
Do you honestly think licensing and certification would improve the computer repair trades? HA! The country is already full of MCSE's who don't know their asses from a hole in the ground, and the only thing licensing would do is insure that only those who have been through the industry's brainwas^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H stupid, expensive classes that teach products instead of concepts, would ever be allowed to touch a computer.
GONE would be the opportunity for an intelligent young person from a poor family to pull zirself up by zir bootstraps, or work zir way through college, or survive while between jobs.
The trades are full of incompetent people who are never the less certified and licensed. All of the Government regulations in the world are doing little to no good for the public. Professional licenses are the trades' equivalent of closed-source software: they're an anti-free-market mechanism to keep prices artificially high by providing a barrier-to-entry to the marketplace. They also give Government a great deal of leverage to control peoples' lives: for instance, some states now revoke professional licenses if some poor soul happens to fall behind in his child support payments.
Here in the People's Republic of Oregon the bureaucrats started requiring a stupid little "junior electrician's" license a decade ago to run network wiring, telephone wiring, burglar alarm wiring and air-conditioner-thermostat wiring. I had been doing heating/refrigeration/air conditioning for 10-15 years and was changing careers into the computer field. So I applied for their stupid little rinkydink electrician's license.
What came back from the State was a form that I had to take to everyone I had ever worked for (all of my years running my own businesses didn't count) and get them to sign & notarize a statement that while I had worked for them I had spent so many hours running wiring, so many hours laying pipe, so many hours changing filters, so many hours picking butt-nuggets out of my ass, and so forth, showing that I had at least two years' experience running thermostat wires. Gimme a break. It doesn't take two goddamn years to learn how to run low-voltage wire that is never going to kill anyone or start any fires. Further, no employer that I've ever worked for ever kept any records on how many hours their employees spent doing various activities: we did whatever needed to be done to keep people's beer cold and never worried about how much of it involved putting in refrigerant or changing a valve or running a wire.
Next, I found out that even if I COULD document all of my wire-pulling, it would certify me ONLY to run thermostat wire: it takes another two years to learn how to run telephone wire. And another two to learn how to run network cabling. And let's not even get started talking about fire & burglar alarm wiring.
So, it isn't legal for me to do HVAC/R in the Nanny State of Oregon any more. No, we're all too stupid to figure out on our own who is competent enough to run a piece of low-voltage wiring. We're all a lot better off sucking on the giant teat of Government and letting it make all of our decisions for us.
And now, you want some bureaucrat who wouldn't recognize a motherboard if one came up and spread its legs in front of him, to decide who gets to fix computers? Gimme a break. Better yet, gimme a drink... better make it a strong one. Oh wait, I forgot: you need a license before you can serve alcohol to anyone....
Warning: Some ideologies on the Net are smaller than they appear.
Yes, and the myth that it is a "well-respected theory within the scientific community" is one of them.
There has been a great deal of misinformation, propaganda and flat-out Junk Science on this issue disseminated in the last decade or so -- including statements from so-called "scientific societies" that turn out to contain nothing more than cosmetologists, psychologists, gynecologists, et. al.
The FACTS remain that there is NO scientific consensus on the issue, regardless Al Gore's unsubstantiated claims in his Earth in the Balance polemic. The only reliable data on the subject, a Gallup Poll, shows that the majority of climatologists do not believe that global warming is human-caused.
You are correct that information on Global Warming is easy to find, such as here, here, here and here among others too numerous to list.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but "global warming" isn't real.
There have been some thirty years of questionable "studies" (read: politicized science) that favor the political agenda of the Left, yet somehow it was never reported in the mainstream Press.
From Kellermann's shameful "research" concluding that a gun in the home is x times more likely to kill you or a loved one than an intruder (and he couldn't even get x in the same order of magnitude when he repeated the study) to the spotted owl bullshit to today's "global warming" scaremongering, all or most of what passes for government-sponsored "science" has lacked credibility for a long, long time.
But somehow, this was never "news."
But let the Bush Administration follow any kind of science -- and I haven't educated myself on the specifics of the present brouhaha, so I use the word "science" lightly here -- that Leftists don't agree with, and suddenly we're all going to Hell in a handbasket!
I don't think so. We were already well on our way long before GW ever came into power.
Will the alleged "conservative" politicization of Science destroy the reputation of government-sponsored "research?" I think not. Its credibility was destroyed decades ago -- by "liberals."
For the record, I am not a "conservative." At least, not in the sense that the word is being used in America.
Mr. Shatner,
I'll never forget the disappointment I felt when I realized that the Commodore VIC-20 (which you had endorsed in their advertisements) was... well, I'll just say it bluntly: a piece of junk.
I lost a lot of respect for you after that, and it was years before I began thinking well of you again. Did you ever feel embarrassed with your decision to endorse that product?
The Right And Good Chosen People Of God attempting to coerce non-believers into behaving more in line with their religious ideology
You're talking about MCSE's here, right?
It's the PHBs, too. Microsoft FUD has so completely blown over the non-technical that anyone espousing an anti-MS thought....
...is FIRED. I've been excommunicated from two jobs in the last year by pointy-haired High Priests -- er, ah, I mean MCSE's -- because I dared to challenge the FUD -- er, ah, I mean the One True Religion -- of Micro$oft.
Believe me, the folks in the article have ample reason to fear speaking out. The PHB's only need to "make an example of" a few people like me to make everyone else fall into line.