Lots of college students are uppity assholes. But I could give two shits what happens in some other fucked up country, if we are a free society electrocuting a student 5 times for being a pain the the ass is totally out of line.
You go piss on an electric fence, come back and tell me you've never been a dick and you'd probably be a better person if you were humiliated and electrocuted if you ever were.
The guy was trying to leave. The police threatened the other students, wouldn't provide their badge numbers and continued to shock the student even as the surrounding students protested. There were witnesses and they didn't look like hippie-lefties.
Your cavalier attitude would be alarming were it not so common.
Guarantees it. In fact from experience we *know* online banking is insecure but because it still saves the banks money in the end its a cost they are willing to accept. Who is going to guarantee your vote and whats their motivation to protect your interest?
Or both. As someone who works with open source software (server) at a company that develops software (mostly closed) I'd say he has no clue what he's talking about. When we need software quickly and redistribution isn't a primary concern we've happily re-tooled open software, both GPL and (in business, somewhat preferably) BSD.
As far as quality goes its about as uneven as closed source and I think its ridiculous to claim otherwise. I'm sure this little politician hasn't met a lot of Red Hat, Novell or Sun engineers. But he should and he should be thanking them for putting so much hard work into good software even poor people from countries like his can use, but I suppose that wouldn't be nearly as profitable.
You did read assuming right didn't you? Or is that a big word? Anyway, from the posts I'd read I've seen links to this that were claimed to be the new artwork rather then the work being metioned, so I thought I'd see what Edgy Eft actually looked like.
So if you've got something more useful and less trollish to say, please, spit it out.
They are talking about. I'm not a big fan of brown or generally dark colors on my desktop.
As for the complaining, I'm a bit perplexed:
"A prominent factor in much of the submitted artwork -- which is still publicly available -- is the use of visual effects, yet even as the feature freeze approached, there were still unsolved technical problems, such as inconsistency between color palettes. After Shuttleworth announced the rollback, Stroep, Jonathan Austin, and Jozsef Mak reworked the Dapper art packages for consistency, and limited the effects enhancements to a gloss finish."
That sounds like a legitimate enough problem. Unfinished artwork and effects can make a distro look amateurish.
Besides, I thought the point of OSS is the flexibility that comes with it? Are these Ubuntu users going to be forced to use it.
I've been left with the distinct impression that hypnosis is the western answer to guided meditation and really is more a pseudo-science with a Barnum & Bailey air of mystery.
Honestly I don't see much difference myself, aside from the fact that western hypnosis seems to be a hodge-podge of tradition practices dressed up to be more palatable to modern science. Maybe its easier on the western constitution to say hypnotherapist then monk. It certainly sounds less new-agey, but I suspect there's more to meditation and culturally we are probably simply playing semantic games.
FWIW, while I was undergoing hypnotherapy my therapist did incorporation more contemporary tools such as subliminal sound and habit replacement (I was seeing the therapist to quite smoking). Not that I ever ended up achieving much of a suggestive state (smoked for about 5 years after).
Overall it was interesting and was nice to throw a little light on some of my misconceptions (the therapist became a good friend and we talked about his training and the results a bit).
Have you ever been hypnotized? I have. 1) The number of people likely to be responsive to hypnotic suggestion is relatively small 2) the number of people susceptible to a typical induced hypnotic state is relatively small.
Hypnosis seemed fascinating to me when I was young but when I had the opportunity to experience it (or rather, not) I found out that it isn't uncommon for people to not automagically achieve a hypnotic state.
Not that I'm trying to dismiss your idea altogether, just had an interesting experience with hypnosis.
What I'd find more interesting is visualization or (quasi-)mediation. A lot of the practices that hypno-therapists use are remarkably similar to meditation practices including the use of visualization technics that seemed to me fairly esoteric (white light, breathing through feet, etc).
Aside from the fact that THC got blackballed long before there was science showing that it actually had practical medical uses its got that naturally occurring thing going on, which makes it pretty unattractive to institutions with *finances* (drug cartels don't help or count).
Likewise, poppy tea can be considered an effective home remedy for moderate pain, but make it and risk prosecution.
I'm sure most Republicans would be just as disappointed to here this news. And frankly I think its more indicative of the American political system and its failings then the evils of one party or the other.
You are not doing it for me. I just benefit from it, so of course I should be very very grateful. But there is no way on earth you'd be doing what you do solely for me. That would be ridiculous.
Most artists I know simply love what they do. Generally they have a very good attitude and when they succeed the tend to keep that positive outlook. Its good to get compensation and validation for the things that you love, and it should be. The world is much more rich for it.
Well. We all started somewhere right? 5 years is long enough for the wide-eyed and wonder thing to get old and grow up a bit. Maybe this was an exciting little tryst. Maybe its the begining of a more serious relationship. Who knows.
Lets just hope the Slashdot editors intended for this to be a weenie roast and didn't, you know, seriously... :)
Well, I happen to be both. I am a 'Linux expert' in that I get paid for my expertise (systems admin and *mostly* enjoy it).
However after having used Linux for 7 or 8 years on the desktop I've had enough. I stopped booting it regularly (excluding the MythTV system, granted) about a year ago. I want to be lazy. I spend all week configuring, testing and troubleshooting systems. The last thing I want to do is spend the weekend doing the same just to update my workstation.
And for smart how's Linux factor into that anyway? I mean granted, its a fine learning tool, but then so is Solaris and FreeBSD. If you're really interested in becoming smart (whatever that means) then limiting yourself to one operating system is decidely not smart. If its computer science that interests you then Linux distros are just one drop and a very interesting pool. Certainly not the be-all and end-all.
If anything Linux is for the lazy. Its just hasn't fully achieved its purpose yet. It detects my hardware, installs my drivers. Downloads and installs my software and its dependancies all the while flashing more and more polished graphics and workstation eye-candy.
We use a lot of 'White Box' vendors with our desktop and server gear. I handle all the installations, both Linux (server) and Windows (desktop). Honestly I think they are pretty close until you hit a proprietary driver issue. Thats when things get...interesting.
Back in the Linux vs. Windows 98 I actually got a few good chuckles (Mandrake's drives and hardware recognition versus Windows...well lack). But XP found Microsoft catching up. They may not innovate much, but thats not to say they don't get it.
Today installation is fairly close and we can start to focus more on the the less esoteric issues, like vendor support and application design. The areas where Linux is still playing catch-up.
That is a good thing, we've come a long way but there is always room for growth.
As a reformed Linux fan boi (I work with it in the server room now and am quite happy using Windows XP or OSX on my workstations) I feel your pain. Linux isn't ready and the inability of some (very vocal) members of the community effectively puts an end to real dialog. Fortunately they are only a small (annoying, loud) contingent.
Fortunately there are moderates like, say, Linus Torvalds who tend to take a much more pragmatic (and good humored) approach.
I was just getting ready to lambast the poster myself but you seem to have covered it. The gist of my post would have been a little more indirect (less finger pointing, not that its not throughly deserved). The average person need to know very little about security, and I never seen a good reason it shouldn't be that way. Your right to poke holes in the logging off assertion. Thats plain silly unless they've got ninja hackers sneaking into their house constantly downloading illegal warez and pornography. Chances are the only *threat* is hypothetical. Very noobish.
Lets stay practical. Realistic seems to work best.
If your real intention is to improve the users experience and not simply to attempt to talk down to them (as sexy as that may seem, its lame) there are very few areas where you might be able to cut through the techno-babble and actually make a difference. Backup are one good one. Even if your family and friends followed every piece of dogmatic advice ever foisted upon them there is one rule of thumb: at some point it will break. Power supply's, fan(s) then hard drives (opps!) and motherboards. Every system out there will die some day, its just a matter of time when and if you don't like to gamble or can't afford to, backing up some of your important data can be a world of difference (I'm not talking about spanned multi-disk backups or fancy archival systems, just, you know, copying important files to physical media with some regularity so when you Geek Squad flunky tells you your going to have to replace your hard drive because you've got a silly virus you only need to lightly curse under your breath knowing you at least have most of your important files.
Adware software and viruses are probably the next practical concern (ok, after updates) and if you can get most family/friends using some form of (legitimate) virus scanner/adware removers and let their systems autoupdate chances are you'll save both them and yourself a lot of unnecessary trauma (drama?). But lets be honest, thats our bread and butter.:)
You will never get users to give up convenience for security unless you make it realistic and practical (or policay but that usually takes a few "accidents" before it really sinks in and its hard to do outside of enterprise, you know, without legal ramifications).
Seven months ago the NAB sought the FCC's help in preventing XM from acquiring wireless licenses to provide an array of new services, such as on-demand audio and video, competing more directly with terrestrial radio. XM abandoned the bid in May, figuring that the agency would oppose the effort.
NPR reminds me where there's money there are underhanded business tactics.
Oracle/Red Hat helped legitimize RH Linux. With PHB's reading stories about Red Hat/Oracle roll-outs I'm sure it helped easing RH into company more racks (I know we've purchased a few RH licenses specifically for this reason).
Partnerships like this are very important in making Red Hat more then just a Apache platform and keeps it on the radar of other enterprise software producers.
Tunebite has been around for a while now (probably only one among many, but the only one I've actually used). It provides its own driver allowing accelerated encoding of both Window Media and iTMS files (video too, which is what got me interested, but doesn't seem to work as well, at least not with my temperament).
His wording may have been unfortunate, but I think its fair to say he was not confused about the creation of the internet and just about anyone who was has pointed out his role (as advocate).
Its stupid that we still need to have this conversation.
Just when you want to give/. readers more credit something like this comes up. That quote has been debunkedmoretimes then I care to remember. But I guess for some n00blets its more fun reguritating something stupid then bothering to get it right.
"Vint Cerf: I think it is very fair to say that the Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the vice president in his current role and in his earlier role as senator."
Al Gore saw the business potential. He never claimed to actually have invented it. Vint Cert is a pretty good reference.
Its your opinion and its cool that you shared it. Personally I think America is too big to be properly representative of the 'public' which is probably my biggest complaint. But culturally I'd simply like to see more. Sounds like the Air Force was a good experience for you.
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Lots of college students are uppity assholes. But I could give two shits what happens in some other fucked up country, if we are a free society electrocuting a student 5 times for being a pain the the ass is totally out of line.
You go piss on an electric fence, come back and tell me you've never been a dick and you'd probably be a better person if you were humiliated and electrocuted if you ever were.
The guy was trying to leave. The police threatened the other students, wouldn't provide their badge numbers and continued to shock the student even as the surrounding students protested. There were witnesses and they didn't look like hippie-lefties.
Your cavalier attitude would be alarming were it not so common.
If you're a hard-core enthusiast, your upgrades may cost more.
Guarantees it. In fact from experience we *know* online banking is insecure but because it still saves the banks money in the end its a cost they are willing to accept. Who is going to guarantee your vote and whats their motivation to protect your interest?
Or both. As someone who works with open source software (server) at a company that develops software (mostly closed) I'd say he has no clue what he's talking about. When we need software quickly and redistribution isn't a primary concern we've happily re-tooled open software, both GPL and (in business, somewhat preferably) BSD.
As far as quality goes its about as uneven as closed source and I think its ridiculous to claim otherwise. I'm sure this little politician hasn't met a lot of Red Hat, Novell or Sun engineers. But he should and he should be thanking them for putting so much hard work into good software even poor people from countries like his can use, but I suppose that wouldn't be nearly as profitable.
You did read assuming right didn't you? Or is that a big word? Anyway, from the posts I'd read I've seen links to this that were claimed to be the new artwork rather then the work being metioned, so I thought I'd see what Edgy Eft actually looked like.
So if you've got something more useful and less trollish to say, please, spit it out.
As for the complaining, I'm a bit perplexed: That sounds like a legitimate enough problem. Unfinished artwork and effects can make a distro look amateurish.
Besides, I thought the point of OSS is the flexibility that comes with it? Are these Ubuntu users going to be forced to use it.
I've been left with the distinct impression that hypnosis is the western answer to guided meditation and really is more a pseudo-science with a Barnum & Bailey air of mystery.
Honestly I don't see much difference myself, aside from the fact that western hypnosis seems to be a hodge-podge of tradition practices dressed up to be more palatable to modern science. Maybe its easier on the western constitution to say hypnotherapist then monk. It certainly sounds less new-agey, but I suspect there's more to meditation and culturally we are probably simply playing semantic games.
FWIW, while I was undergoing hypnotherapy my therapist did incorporation more contemporary tools such as subliminal sound and habit replacement (I was seeing the therapist to quite smoking). Not that I ever ended up achieving much of a suggestive state (smoked for about 5 years after).
Overall it was interesting and was nice to throw a little light on some of my misconceptions (the therapist became a good friend and we talked about his training and the results a bit).
Have you ever been hypnotized? I have. 1) The number of people likely to be responsive to hypnotic suggestion is relatively small 2) the number of people susceptible to a typical induced hypnotic state is relatively small.
Hypnosis seemed fascinating to me when I was young but when I had the opportunity to experience it (or rather, not) I found out that it isn't uncommon for people to not automagically achieve a hypnotic state.
Not that I'm trying to dismiss your idea altogether, just had an interesting experience with hypnosis.
What I'd find more interesting is visualization or (quasi-)mediation. A lot of the practices that hypno-therapists use are remarkably similar to meditation practices including the use of visualization technics that seemed to me fairly esoteric (white light, breathing through feet, etc).
Aside from the fact that THC got blackballed long before there was science showing that it actually had practical medical uses its got that naturally occurring thing going on, which makes it pretty unattractive to institutions with *finances* (drug cartels don't help or count).
Likewise, poppy tea can be considered an effective home remedy for moderate pain, but make it and risk prosecution.
I'm sure most Republicans would be just as disappointed to here this news. And frankly I think its more indicative of the American political system and its failings then the evils of one party or the other.
You are not doing it for me. I just benefit from it, so of course I should be very very grateful. But there is no way on earth you'd be doing what you do solely for me. That would be ridiculous.
Most artists I know simply love what they do. Generally they have a very good attitude and when they succeed the tend to keep that positive outlook. Its good to get compensation and validation for the things that you love, and it should be. The world is much more rich for it.
Well. We all started somewhere right? 5 years is long enough for the wide-eyed and wonder thing to get old and grow up a bit. Maybe this was an exciting little tryst. Maybe its the begining of a more serious relationship. Who knows.
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:)
Lets just hope the Slashdot editors intended for this to be a weenie roast and didn't, you know, seriously
Well, I happen to be both. I am a 'Linux expert' in that I get paid for my expertise (systems admin and *mostly* enjoy it).
However after having used Linux for 7 or 8 years on the desktop I've had enough. I stopped booting it regularly (excluding the MythTV system, granted) about a year ago. I want to be lazy. I spend all week configuring, testing and troubleshooting systems. The last thing I want to do is spend the weekend doing the same just to update my workstation.
And for smart how's Linux factor into that anyway? I mean granted, its a fine learning tool, but then so is Solaris and FreeBSD. If you're really interested in becoming smart (whatever that means) then limiting yourself to one operating system is decidely not smart. If its computer science that interests you then Linux distros are just one drop and a very interesting pool. Certainly not the be-all and end-all.
If anything Linux is for the lazy. Its just hasn't fully achieved its purpose yet. It detects my hardware, installs my drivers. Downloads and installs my software and its dependancies all the while flashing more and more polished graphics and workstation eye-candy.
We use a lot of 'White Box' vendors with our desktop and server gear. I handle all the installations, both Linux (server) and Windows (desktop). Honestly I think they are pretty close until you hit a proprietary driver issue. Thats when things get...interesting.
Back in the Linux vs. Windows 98 I actually got a few good chuckles (Mandrake's drives and hardware recognition versus Windows...well lack). But XP found Microsoft catching up. They may not innovate much, but thats not to say they don't get it.
Today installation is fairly close and we can start to focus more on the the less esoteric issues, like vendor support and application design. The areas where Linux is still playing catch-up.
That is a good thing, we've come a long way but there is always room for growth.
As a reformed Linux fan boi (I work with it in the server room now and am quite happy using Windows XP or OSX on my workstations) I feel your pain. Linux isn't ready and the inability of some (very vocal) members of the community effectively puts an end to real dialog. Fortunately they are only a small (annoying, loud) contingent.
Fortunately there are moderates like, say, Linus Torvalds who tend to take a much more pragmatic (and good humored) approach.
I was just getting ready to lambast the poster myself but you seem to have covered it. The gist of my post would have been a little more indirect (less finger pointing, not that its not throughly deserved). The average person need to know very little about security, and I never seen a good reason it shouldn't be that way. Your right to poke holes in the logging off assertion. Thats plain silly unless they've got ninja hackers sneaking into their house constantly downloading illegal warez and pornography. Chances are the only *threat* is hypothetical. Very noobish.
:)
Lets stay practical. Realistic seems to work best.
If your real intention is to improve the users experience and not simply to attempt to talk down to them (as sexy as that may seem, its lame) there are very few areas where you might be able to cut through the techno-babble and actually make a difference. Backup are one good one. Even if your family and friends followed every piece of dogmatic advice ever foisted upon them there is one rule of thumb: at some point it will break. Power supply's, fan(s) then hard drives (opps!) and motherboards. Every system out there will die some day, its just a matter of time when and if you don't like to gamble or can't afford to, backing up some of your important data can be a world of difference (I'm not talking about spanned multi-disk backups or fancy archival systems, just, you know, copying important files to physical media with some regularity so when you Geek Squad flunky tells you your going to have to replace your hard drive because you've got a silly virus you only need to lightly curse under your breath knowing you at least have most of your important files.
Adware software and viruses are probably the next practical concern (ok, after updates) and if you can get most family/friends using some form of (legitimate) virus scanner/adware removers and let their systems autoupdate chances are you'll save both them and yourself a lot of unnecessary trauma (drama?). But lets be honest, thats our bread and butter.
You will never get users to give up convenience for security unless you make it realistic and practical (or policay but that usually takes a few "accidents" before it really sinks in and its hard to do outside of enterprise, you know, without legal ramifications).
Why bother to innovate.
NPR reminds me where there's money there are underhanded business tactics.
NPR are shills. They produce some fine programming, but their interests are as viral as anybody elses.
Oracle/Red Hat helped legitimize RH Linux. With PHB's reading stories about Red Hat/Oracle roll-outs I'm sure it helped easing RH into company more racks (I know we've purchased a few RH licenses specifically for this reason).
Partnerships like this are very important in making Red Hat more then just a Apache platform and keeps it on the radar of other enterprise software producers.
Tunebite has been around for a while now (probably only one among many, but the only one I've actually used). It provides its own driver allowing accelerated encoding of both Window Media and iTMS files (video too, which is what got me interested, but doesn't seem to work as well, at least not with my temperament).
His wording may have been unfortunate, but I think its fair to say he was not confused about the creation of the internet and just about anyone who was has pointed out his role (as advocate).
Its stupid that we still need to have this conversation.
Ya, thats it. Cerf. Vint Cert.
Al Gore saw the business potential. He never claimed to actually have invented it. Vint Cert is a pretty good reference.
Its your opinion and its cool that you shared it. Personally I think America is too big to be properly representative of the 'public' which is probably my biggest complaint. But culturally I'd simply like to see more. Sounds like the Air Force was a good experience for you.