Sounds a little more myopic. What about that whole globalism thing? What about wanting to broaden your understanding of the world? We see electronic and trade barriers go down all the time, yet outside of the EU we seem to cling ever more strongly to our boarders.
There will always be people who are dissatified, but I can think of a whole lot of other reasons to consider leaving the reservation. 20 years from now what do you think things are going to look like? Is globalism just a fad without broader repercussions?
As for your political views on the 'war' on terrorism, we'll just have to agree to disagree (part of what ideally makes this country so great!). I *do* think we are at a low point, but its not like this is the first or that there is any reason it should be the last. The political climate changes. Its a fact. But personally I'd love to expatraite. You can buy me that ticket. I don't think the US is a bad place, its just I'm not going to live forever and I've seen a lot of it already. I'd like to see a few other things before I hit the dirt. Call me crazy, but I love the diversity, languages, cultures we are surrounded with.
But while I tend to prefer the GPL myself it is by now means the only open source license. BSD style licensing could have served as a template too (or an inspiration for a GPL-like license). It *is* thanks to Stallman that the GPL got the foothold it did (that and the litigation BSD was in while Linux was gaining mind-share).
It seams like there's a kind of competition going on between our two countries to strip their citizens of basic rights. For a long time I'd read Slashdot stories about England and think to myself how weird it was, then of course I compared notes.
We seem to do everything under the guise/honest or not, of protection. Protection from terrorism. Protection from child abuse. Protection from violence. But we don't seem to be making so much headway. How much of our freedom or dignity will we concede before we stop calling ourselves free nations? Is it our destiny to become everything we hate?
Voting is public. How can a company legally be allowed *not* to disclose the mechanics of a system built to be used in public elections. What.. we should just assume we can trust the democratic system in the hands of big business? Every programmer? Every engineer? They might as well just hire a bunch of staff that go house to house promise to vote for us.
There are lots of things that you should be able to keep secret, but not how my voting system works. We might as well do away with it altogether.
In a bizarre turn of events Wired magazine editor-in-chief Chris Anderson is elected president in electronic elections held in Bolivia, Ghana, Uganda and prime ministor in the UK.
I think this is a common situation and a common misunderstanding. Just because you like something doesn't mean you like it under any circumstance. Why would it? Maybe you like doing something at *your* pace, but don't like it so much when you have to hassle or keep deadlines. Thinking about what you really would like to do is a pretty complicated prospect and I suspect most of us don't actually achieve it. Such is life.
But its short-sightedness that probably brings a lot of us to it. Probably a bit of lack of imagination and bills too.:)
You can quote all sorts of crap. We've been doing terrible things for, well, recorded history. Israel is no more guilty then the US certainly, but they have blood on their hands. Every day we seem to have more. So keep making swords.
I'd tend to agree with you, but I'm a neurophysiology fan. One big complicated machine right? But that doesn't work for everyone. The question still stands. Its like the tree falling in the woods only much more...interesting.
Its about time to stop calling it teleportation because the implications are much stranger: do you really want to die and while being (hopefully!) reassembled elsewhere? If this is basically like fax or xerox how many copies of myself can I make? And of course the devilish old questions, if you reassemble something atomically does that mean there is no such thing as a soul, or did you atomize it on the other side (or is it in fact, physical)?
Anyway, I call your trend whoring claim with a counterclaim > calling out trend whores is now nearly equally trendy on/. as is being one. And since you're technically now doing both. You win!:P
Although making absurd observations is also very trendy here, so by sheer volume along with this post I'm afraid I trump you both.
There is one for everyone. Debians developers don't have to be developing for *you*. Just like you have (a whole lot of) choices as to which distro suits you best.
Don't like the hard-line approach but want to get gritty: try Gentoo. Don't like their politics; Linux From Scratch. Want something immediate and usable? Redhat. Suse. Mandrake (I just can say Mandriva with a straight face). Linspire (from the founder of mp3.com!). Or even Ubuntu, although I don't know how close they are to the core Debian crew and their politics, I suspect they are slightly more pragmatic.
The point being while its fun to watch the Linux dramas unfold the truth is there is an operating system out there for everyone. FreeDOS. BeOS. Windows. Mac. Minix, Linux, *nix.
This is what diveristy is about. Part of what makes Linux distros so interesting is their ability to adapt to the needs/will/wishes of their targeted user-base. If the Debian development crew wants to be purists and have issues with the trademark, more power to them. As long as this doesn't boil over into the distro *I* choose to use and they don't get in the way of the Firefox teams work.
Personally of course, I'd call this stupid. But them ideologically Debian's never been my 'fit'. But that doesn't mean I can't see their POV or respect it (from my comfortable distance).
Hopefully we can all keep in mind that there are A) other POV's out there and no reason to descide because they don't work for you they don't 'belong' B) don't insist in shoving our own POV's down other peoples throats (something we in the Linux community *have* been guilty of...some of us continue to be).
You might not like it but its just a fact. The mobile market place is the next big rush.
.mobi didn't happen because of evil registrars, it happened because the marketplace wanted it.
I work for a company thats in technology, so we watch trends pretty closely. Mobile space isn't even on our map yet but we attend CTIA and look for opportunities very carefully. It would probably be irresponsible for us not to. People want mobile technology and at some point, at least for more casual things, laptops don't cut it.
So sure, its probably more marketing then technological revolution (wow, new TLD) but the people and business that will use it are whats making it happen. Not the other way.
Its simpler then that. Appliances, enterprise grade hardware or software. That's job security.
Sure, you might save a few bucks and maybe, if you're good, come up with something better. But try explaining that to your non-technphile CEO when something (and something always does) goes wrong.
If my gear fails and I did the best that I could (firmware upgrades, software updates, hardware lifecycle, etc) its no sweat off my back. We rush to repair our systems and someone wags their finger at Sun or Cisco or whoever for a little while (or reconsiders their purchasing policy and my recommended updates).:)
If I cobble together a great system...right, its just me holding the bag.
There will ALWAYS be exceptions which is no doubt why this projects even being mentioned (and I'm not knocking it), but all you enterprise hot-shots probably already know better. Money doesn't just get you quality hardware (which it often does) it gives you *and* your company a little buffer.
It sounds better when you explain to a client that your primary Cisco router failed then trying to explain your custom gear (unless of course, you lie, then your covered...but lying, which according to Wired is only good if your an MBA).
Herd mentality. And I don't mean that as insultingly as it probably sounds. Computer techincians are not mainstream computer users. They are not thought of as mainstream computer users. You *might* be able to pass of a "trick" or two but thats about it. And thats going to apply to a small group of mostly young users or users who consider themselves for lack of a better word: advanced.
Like OpenOffice (hey, did you know theres a free Office product you can use from you're son/grandmothers/sisters/brothers computer without having to buy a second copy?) or (the dreaded) WinZip which appears like a parasite and I love to replace with 7-Zip (although most users don't really notice until I point out that annoying nag screen is gone).
I use/depend on a lot of OSS software and I routinely install pieces but I don't expect it to change or stick. People are too busy, too habitual, too dependant on what vendors are preinstalling (*cough* Norton *cough*) which in turn are the tools they are comfortable with and can depend on finding on most of their peers computer systems. I think it makes life easier to navigate, even if there are some certain crimps in the system.:)
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Sounds a little more myopic. What about that whole globalism thing? What about wanting to broaden your understanding of the world? We see electronic and trade barriers go down all the time, yet outside of the EU we seem to cling ever more strongly to our boarders.
There will always be people who are dissatified, but I can think of a whole lot of other reasons to consider leaving the reservation. 20 years from now what do you think things are going to look like? Is globalism just a fad without broader repercussions?
As for your political views on the 'war' on terrorism, we'll just have to agree to disagree (part of what ideally makes this country so great!). I *do* think we are at a low point, but its not like this is the first or that there is any reason it should be the last. The political climate changes. Its a fact. But personally I'd love to expatraite. You can buy me that ticket. I don't think the US is a bad place, its just I'm not going to live forever and I've seen a lot of it already. I'd like to see a few other things before I hit the dirt. Call me crazy, but I love the diversity, languages, cultures we are surrounded with.
Ciao!
Virtual porn-star. Now that would be something.
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Desk could get sticky though
Maybe physical activity should be one of the metrics though. You know, for, ah...excercise and health reasons. Fight prostrate cancer!
But while I tend to prefer the GPL myself it is by now means the only open source license. BSD style licensing could have served as a template too (or an inspiration for a GPL-like license). It *is* thanks to Stallman that the GPL got the foothold it did (that and the litigation BSD was in while Linux was gaining mind-share).
It seams like there's a kind of competition going on between our two countries to strip their citizens of basic rights. For a long time I'd read Slashdot stories about England and think to myself how weird it was, then of course I compared notes.
We seem to do everything under the guise/honest or not, of protection. Protection from terrorism. Protection from child abuse. Protection from violence. But we don't seem to be making so much headway. How much of our freedom or dignity will we concede before we stop calling ourselves free nations? Is it our destiny to become everything we hate?
Voting is public. How can a company legally be allowed *not* to disclose the mechanics of a system built to be used in public elections. What .. we should just assume we can trust the democratic system in the hands of big business? Every programmer? Every engineer? They might as well just hire a bunch of staff that go house to house promise to vote for us.
There are lots of things that you should be able to keep secret, but not how my voting system works. We might as well do away with it altogether.
I suspect they do in the other countries I mentioned too. But you, enough finances and lobbying and well, just about anything is possible. :)
In a bizarre turn of events Wired magazine editor-in-chief Chris Anderson is elected president in electronic elections held in Bolivia, Ghana, Uganda and prime ministor in the UK.
It assumes that rich people are more intellegent.
Can you even imagine why it's important at all to support those proprietary formats?
... its called the real world. Its out there, somewhere.
Um
*thumbs*
Keep on trucking!
I think this is a common situation and a common misunderstanding. Just because you like something doesn't mean you like it under any circumstance. Why would it? Maybe you like doing something at *your* pace, but don't like it so much when you have to hassle or keep deadlines. Thinking about what you really would like to do is a pretty complicated prospect and I suspect most of us don't actually achieve it. Such is life.
:)
But its short-sightedness that probably brings a lot of us to it. Probably a bit of lack of imagination and bills too.
They should learn how to work the US patent system, they'd be rich.
You can quote all sorts of crap. We've been doing terrible things for, well, recorded history. Israel is no more guilty then the US certainly, but they have blood on their hands. Every day we seem to have more. So keep making swords.
as a drama and an action movie without having to dumb down the plot, with special effects and acting on par with anything you'd see on the big screen.
So I guess I'm with you then.
We are all bad Countries. This could be said of any of us. Isreal certainly has science, unfortunately a lot of is being used for defence contracts.
what did we tell you about trolling the forums?
Now thats Slashdot paranoia. :p
I'd tend to agree with you, but I'm a neurophysiology fan. One big complicated machine right? But that doesn't work for everyone. The question still stands. Its like the tree falling in the woods only much more...interesting.
Its about time to stop calling it teleportation because the implications are much stranger: do you really want to die and while being (hopefully!) reassembled elsewhere? If this is basically like fax or xerox how many copies of myself can I make? And of course the devilish old questions, if you reassemble something atomically does that mean there is no such thing as a soul, or did you atomize it on the other side (or is it in fact, physical)?
Have obviously not read any of my posts.
/. as is being one. And since you're technically now doing both. You win! :P
Anyway, I call your trend whoring claim with a counterclaim > calling out trend whores is now nearly equally trendy on
Although making absurd observations is also very trendy here, so by sheer volume along with this post I'm afraid I trump you both.
Better luck next time my friend.
There is one for everyone. Debians developers don't have to be developing for *you*. Just like you have (a whole lot of) choices as to which distro suits you best.
Don't like the hard-line approach but want to get gritty: try Gentoo. Don't like their politics; Linux From Scratch. Want something immediate and usable? Redhat. Suse. Mandrake (I just can say Mandriva with a straight face). Linspire (from the founder of mp3.com!). Or even Ubuntu, although I don't know how close they are to the core Debian crew and their politics, I suspect they are slightly more pragmatic.
The point being while its fun to watch the Linux dramas unfold the truth is there is an operating system out there for everyone. FreeDOS. BeOS. Windows. Mac. Minix, Linux, *nix.
This is what diveristy is about. Part of what makes Linux distros so interesting is their ability to adapt to the needs/will/wishes of their targeted user-base. If the Debian development crew wants to be purists and have issues with the trademark, more power to them. As long as this doesn't boil over into the distro *I* choose to use and they don't get in the way of the Firefox teams work.
Personally of course, I'd call this stupid. But them ideologically Debian's never been my 'fit'. But that doesn't mean I can't see their POV or respect it (from my comfortable distance).
Hopefully we can all keep in mind that there are A) other POV's out there and no reason to descide because they don't work for you they don't 'belong' B) don't insist in shoving our own POV's down other peoples throats (something we in the Linux community *have* been guilty of...some of us continue to be).
You might not like it but its just a fact. The mobile market place is the next big rush.
.mobi didn't happen because of evil registrars, it happened because the marketplace wanted it.
I work for a company thats in technology, so we watch trends pretty closely. Mobile space isn't even on our map yet but we attend CTIA and look for opportunities very carefully. It would probably be irresponsible for us not to. People want mobile technology and at some point, at least for more casual things, laptops don't cut it.
So sure, its probably more marketing then technological revolution (wow, new TLD) but the people and business that will use it are whats making it happen. Not the other way.
Think of it as market segmentation.
Its simpler then that. Appliances, enterprise grade hardware or software. That's job security.
:)
...right, its just me holding the bag.
Sure, you might save a few bucks and maybe, if you're good, come up with something better. But try explaining that to your non-technphile CEO when something (and something always does) goes wrong.
If my gear fails and I did the best that I could (firmware upgrades, software updates, hardware lifecycle, etc) its no sweat off my back. We rush to repair our systems and someone wags their finger at Sun or Cisco or whoever for a little while (or reconsiders their purchasing policy and my recommended updates).
If I cobble together a great system
There will ALWAYS be exceptions which is no doubt why this projects even being mentioned (and I'm not knocking it), but all you enterprise hot-shots probably already know better. Money doesn't just get you quality hardware (which it often does) it gives you *and* your company a little buffer.
It sounds better when you explain to a client that your primary Cisco router failed then trying to explain your custom gear (unless of course, you lie, then your covered...but lying, which according to Wired is only good if your an MBA).
Herd mentality. And I don't mean that as insultingly as it probably sounds. Computer techincians are not mainstream computer users. They are not thought of as mainstream computer users. You *might* be able to pass of a "trick" or two but thats about it. And thats going to apply to a small group of mostly young users or users who consider themselves for lack of a better word: advanced.
:)
Like OpenOffice (hey, did you know theres a free Office product you can use from you're son/grandmothers/sisters/brothers computer without having to buy a second copy?) or (the dreaded) WinZip which appears like a parasite and I love to replace with 7-Zip (although most users don't really notice until I point out that annoying nag screen is gone).
I use/depend on a lot of OSS software and I routinely install pieces but I don't expect it to change or stick. People are too busy, too habitual, too dependant on what vendors are preinstalling (*cough* Norton *cough*) which in turn are the tools they are comfortable with and can depend on finding on most of their peers computer systems. I think it makes life easier to navigate, even if there are some certain crimps in the system.