The whole discourse on the matter of who is most blamworthy in such situations is selfish at the level of trying to assign responsiblity to one party. We do not live in a vacuum and all things in everyones lives are influenced by our relations with everyone else from past to present.
Like the judge who was presiding over MS v DOJ? Yeah, that served justice real well that time, by giving MS partial grounds to appeal the judges remedies.
I'm guessing it's not as high as $22B. In which case if all these businesses were to launch class action suits againsts spammers, they might stop once a judge order damages in the order of the loses to business.
What someone chooses to do to their own body on their own time is not an employers business. How about we replace 'drinking' with 'smoking'. How far would that argument get you? Most people probably wouldn't even say it, cause it's not socially acceptable, yet, to demonize people for drinking.
I forgot they also chose Ada for one of the courses in second year (BASTARDS!). Now there is a language that should never be infliected upon anyone. I don't care if it has protected objects or not, it just sucks arse.
In my first year it was Eiffle, followed by C, Haskell and more Eiffle in second year. Now they've replaced Eiffle with Java (The bastards). Frankly I would of much preffered they started with C.
Eiffel has multiple inheritance and that is one if it's best features IMHO. Like someone else says, every OO Language should have it. It would be good if it also had function overloading as well though.
My year 8 Computer Studies (back in 1991) teacher was often asking me and a girl in the class for the answer to questions. Didn't help that a good portion fo the teachers at that school were not qualified to teach, they just happened to be part of the fundie church that ran the school.
To be the recognized center of gravity for Linux; the central body dedicated to accelerating the use of Linux for enterprise computing through:
* Enterprise-class testing and other technical support for the Linux development community.
* Marshalling of Linux-industry resources to focus investment on areas of greatest need thereby eliminating inhibitors to growth.
* Practical guidance to our members - vendors and end users alike - on working effectively with the Linux development community.
About OSDL
OSDL - home to Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux - is dedicated to accelerating the growth and adoption of Linux in the enterprise. Founded in 2000 and supported by a global consortium of IT industry leaders, OSDL is a non-profit organization that provides state-of the-art computing and test facilities in the United States and Japan available to developers around the world. OSDL's founding members are IBM, HP, CA, Intel, and NEC. A complete list of OSDL member organizations is provided on the member page at OSDL Members.
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Ok, so they have started a Linux Legal Defence fund. However on the face of it they appear to be far more concerned with development and encouraging development.
4. Sun buys SCO and continues the love, they have the Cash reserves to wage one unholy shitfight against IBM, Novell and Red Hat (all of whom they are not on cordial terms with AFAIA). They do this while going nuts spreading FUD against the GPL, AIX and Linux and put forward OpenSolaris on x86_64 as an alternative to large companies scared about the what might possible happen if they use Linux and IBM/Novell/Red Hat lose. They themselves stop offering Linux as a solution, ala SCO. Unlike SCO though, Sun actually have a product that can compete with Linux/AIX and they make a fortune. Eventually all parties get sick of it all and settle with terms that leaves no party any poorer (other than all the money they spent on Lawyers). The Lawyers are happy cause they have gotten plenty of dosh. Sun is happy cause they have sold a whole bunch of Solaris on x86_64. IBM doesn't really give a shit cause they got bucketloads of cash anyway and are still making a killing out of their everyday business (having amputated their PC business). Novell give up on Linux and fade into a distant memory (like they almoust had before they bough SuSE). Red Hat are hurt bad and it takes a while to get back into good shape.
Who says it necessarily about favours, there is also countering any FUD by MS. In any case your shoplifting analagy is a poor one. Companies compete all the time and this is all this is, not at all akin to stealing.
Yeah that do the same at my uni and a little bit more. I think that is an adequate amount of 'you gotta get used to meetings and working in teams', beyond that you're eating away at making people more technically proficient. After all the world already has an oversupply of people who are not competent at what they do, yet seem perfectly able to tell other people how to do their jobs.
Universities should not worry themselves about such base behaviour, they should continue as they are. Teaching undergrads how to be engineers. It's upper managements responsibility to ensure that all those under them are not acting like f*?!wits to their co-workers/subordinates and if they are fire them.
However technically correct you are, I think you are missing the point of what he is saying. There is a world of difference between the settings you would have on a router that is part of the major public infrastructure which is the Internet or of your ISP and a router that you would have set up between your computer and the rest of the world.
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The whole discourse on the matter of who is most blamworthy in such situations is selfish at the level of trying to assign responsiblity to one party. We do not live in a vacuum and all things in everyones lives are influenced by our relations with everyone else from past to present.
http://www.latrobe.edu.au/ - Not that they are particularly well ranked world wide
That should of been 'DOJ v MS' instead of 'MS v DOJ'
Like the judge who was presiding over MS v DOJ? Yeah, that served justice real well that time, by giving MS partial grounds to appeal the judges remedies.
"fair trade" /= protectionism
I'm guessing it's not as high as $22B. In which case if all these businesses were to launch class action suits againsts spammers, they might stop once a judge order damages in the order of the loses to business.
The issue seems to be solved in the latest trunk, which seems pretty stable to me.
yep, and as they say 'In Communist Russia Linux reboots you'
Thought they would of called a fix relase 1.0.1. Calling it 1.1 makes it sound like it's got more features.
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What someone chooses to do to their own body on their own time is not an employers business. How about we replace 'drinking' with 'smoking'. How far would that argument get you? Most people probably wouldn't even say it, cause it's not socially acceptable, yet, to demonize people for drinking.
I forgot they also chose Ada for one of the courses in second year (BASTARDS!). Now there is a language that should never be infliected upon anyone. I don't care if it has protected objects or not, it just sucks arse.
In my first year it was Eiffle, followed by C, Haskell and more Eiffle in second year. Now they've replaced Eiffle with Java (The bastards). Frankly I would of much preffered they started with C.
Eiffel has multiple inheritance and that is one if it's best features IMHO. Like someone else says, every OO Language should have it. It would be good if it also had function overloading as well though.
My year 8 Computer Studies (back in 1991) teacher was often asking me and a girl in the class for the answer to questions. Didn't help that a good portion fo the teachers at that school were not qualified to teach, they just happened to be part of the fundie church that ran the school.
From http://www.osdl.org/about_osdl.
About Osdl
OSDL Mission
To be the recognized center of gravity for Linux; the central body dedicated to accelerating the use of Linux for enterprise computing through:
* Enterprise-class testing and other technical support for the Linux development community.
* Marshalling of Linux-industry resources to focus investment on areas of greatest need thereby eliminating inhibitors to growth.
* Practical guidance to our members - vendors and end users alike - on working effectively with the Linux development community.
About OSDL
OSDL - home to Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux - is dedicated to accelerating the growth and adoption of Linux in the enterprise. Founded in 2000 and supported by a global consortium of IT industry leaders, OSDL is a non-profit organization that provides state-of the-art computing and test facilities in the United States and Japan available to developers around the world. OSDL's founding members are IBM, HP, CA, Intel, and NEC. A complete list of OSDL member organizations is provided on the member page at OSDL Members.
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Ok, so they have started a Linux Legal Defence fund. However on the face of it they appear to be far more concerned with development and encouraging development.
4. Sun buys SCO and continues the love, they have the Cash reserves to wage one unholy shitfight against IBM, Novell and Red Hat (all of whom they are not on cordial terms with AFAIA). They do this while going nuts spreading FUD against the GPL, AIX and Linux and put forward OpenSolaris on x86_64 as an alternative to large companies scared about the what might possible happen if they use Linux and IBM/Novell/Red Hat lose. They themselves stop offering Linux as a solution, ala SCO. Unlike SCO though, Sun actually have a product that can compete with Linux/AIX and they make a fortune. Eventually all parties get sick of it all and settle with terms that leaves no party any poorer (other than all the money they spent on Lawyers). The Lawyers are happy cause they have gotten plenty of dosh. Sun is happy cause they have sold a whole bunch of Solaris on x86_64. IBM doesn't really give a shit cause they got bucketloads of cash anyway and are still making a killing out of their everyday business (having amputated their PC business). Novell give up on Linux and fade into a distant memory (like they almoust had before they bough SuSE). Red Hat are hurt bad and it takes a while to get back into good shape.
OSDL == Oper Source Development Labs
That should sort of answer your question. FSF would be more the sort of place to be doing lobbying.
Who says it necessarily about favours, there is also countering any FUD by MS. In any case your shoplifting analagy is a poor one. Companies compete all the time and this is all this is, not at all akin to stealing.
Yeah that do the same at my uni and a little bit more. I think that is an adequate amount of 'you gotta get used to meetings and working in teams', beyond that you're eating away at making people more technically proficient. After all the world already has an oversupply of people who are not competent at what they do, yet seem perfectly able to tell other people how to do their jobs.
Universities should not worry themselves about such base behaviour, they should continue as they are. Teaching undergrads how to be engineers. It's upper managements responsibility to ensure that all those under them are not acting like f*?!wits to their co-workers/subordinates and if they are fire them.
Hopefully there's not too many. Welcome to my foes list.
I didn't know there was anyone on /. who actually agreed with me this sort of shit. Welcome to my enemies list.
More lines of source code to Open Source? Is it stuff that has furthered Open Source OSs to the extent of the contributions of say IBM or SGI?
However technically correct you are, I think you are missing the point of what he is saying. There is a world of difference between the settings you would have on a router that is part of the major public infrastructure which is the Internet or of your ISP and a router that you would have set up between your computer and the rest of the world.