To answer your question a little more seriously the number is not much use in itself but like many peices of research the route to the goal often turns out more interesting information than the goal. GIMPS pushes back the bounds on many levels such as highly optimised coding and mathematical DC.
The fact remains with all these things that you have to make your security procautions good enough so that it is more effect get through them than it's worth to do it.
For example say I had 20 in my back account, nobody would spend 100 in time or money to get to it.
This keyboard tapping proof of concept will not cause everyone to stop using typed passwords. Much like that ability to factorise large primes hasn't stopped people using RSA.
Well I say good on Sun for trying something which hasn't been done successfully before. So it's an old idea; video phone is an old idea that's only just about coming into everyday use and even then only by a few, however I have no doubt that it will be widespread sometime in the future. Other things humans didn't get right straight away: flight, television, radio, lightbulb. So to the nay sayers I say wait and see and to Sun I say good on you.
At least this company is spending money on innovation and not litigation.
If Sun were to release the Java (spec.) on an Open Source compatible license then we would be laughing. We wouldn't even need an implementation as there is one: blackdown.
Every software developer knows that big releases to production systems is a bad idea. I would much rather have small incremental releases. That way when a release causes a problem only a small area has to be examined.
Maybe it's different with Microsoft software.
However I expect people like getting there shrink wrapped dvd new version rather than applying a small downloaded patch.
Swisscom is essential Vodafone Switzerland which is part of Vodafone Global one of the largest, if not the largest mobile network provider, in the world.
I left my last job as the people I worked with didn't have a clue. Management was clueless, the technical people were clueless and there was zero communication. Some may say I should have stayed and tried to fix it but I say life is too short. Looked for another job - got a good one and I'm now working with some of the best people in the industry, getting paid more and learning loads.
SuSE provided sun with JDS - Sun aren't going to split hairs over licensing with them. Other distros, I believe, fear, can't afford or don't have the expertise to deal with Sun's licensing.
I have just returned from Sun's two day Tech. Day in London. They were keen to push that they were working closely with Open Source. They pointed out that they were doing things such as JDS (Sun's Linux distro for the desktop - it's pretty much just Suse atm), NetBeans (an open source IDE they support and use within Sun One Studio) and so forth.
Now you can't deny they are using Open Source, but I was finding hard to see how they were contributing. Here are some ideas:
(1.) Increased awareness - nah: they are FUDing things as their own work (2.) Contributing IP - I can't find demonstrable, significant Sun IP that has been changed to be licensed on an OSS approved license (I maybe wrong). (3.) Giving Java to the community - noooo, you can't even distribute the Sun JVM or JDK with a linux distro.
I think Sun want to do the right thing - I think they think they are doing the right thing - they clearly have a way to go.
Here's an example.
JSF (Java Server Faces)
This is a MVC based framework used in presentation tiers in Java (mostly web based).
Now what Sun did was hire the project lead from Jakarta's Structs to write the spec and an implementation of JSF.
JSF is a direct competitor to Structs! If a Jakarta was a company this would be an incredible agressive tactic. Hire the project lead and get him/her to develop a new more featureful version of his old product.
If you are telling me that with Debian (which seems to be you distro of choice) that you can get source kernel packages within days after the release, that's great. You can't with Redhat (not from Redhat anyway) and AFAIK not from SuSE or Mandrake (from the respective vendor/groups.
Possible Fedora is different, but that still remains to be seen.
Sure you can. It's just easier with Gentoo as it is already in the packaging system with all the dependancies and excellent documentation to tell you how to do it. Further the masking system within Portage allows you to pick whether you want to play with cutting edge releases or hold back with more stable version.
Yes, anything can be done on any distro it's all a question of how well and how easily.
There are a number of other distros not mentioned that people should defintely keep an eye on.
JDS (Java Desktop System) which is based on Suse I believe. JDS I believe will be a strong contender in the corporate market as it has Sun behind it (all the bosses have heard of Sun).
Then there is Gentoo for techie home user (Gentoo's my personal fav). It provided ultimate flexibility - you want the 2.6.2 kernel you just go ahead a compile it.
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Well we can make a perfect number with it.
Every Mersenne prime gives rise to a perfect number.
To answer your question a little more seriously the number is not much use in itself but like many peices of research the route to the goal often turns out more interesting information than the goal. GIMPS pushes back the bounds on many levels such as highly optimised coding and mathematical DC.
The GIMPS Project found this prime. You too can contribute by downloading the client (for various OSes).
Thought I would drive the point home as this is a great DC project that doesn't receive half the attention of some of the more dubious DC projects...
Factorise large numbers on large prime... is what I meant. I wish you could edit posts.
The fact remains with all these things that you have to make your security procautions good enough so that it is more effect get through them than it's worth to do it. For example say I had 20 in my back account, nobody would spend 100 in time or money to get to it. This keyboard tapping proof of concept will not cause everyone to stop using typed passwords. Much like that ability to factorise large primes hasn't stopped people using RSA.
So does it use XUL or something similar? This could be very interesting indeed.
-D is a deep upgrade, it updates all packages installed not just those explicitly installed.
I always use "Uu" as is supresses the warning that U implies u.
I'm assuming one can upgrade by doing the following:
/usr/src/ after the emerge)
#emerge sync
#emerge -DUu world
(oh and upgrading to the latest kernel that will be in
Could someone confirm or deny?
Must be a very slow news day...
Just to answer my own question # emerge mplayerplug-in Looks like I saved myself the 1000 and half my deskspace :p
Great they are all encoded in a proprietary format :(.
Anyone know how to get quicktime working in Firefox on Linux (Gentoo)?
Well I say good on Sun for trying something which hasn't been done successfully before. So it's an old idea; video phone is an old idea that's only just about coming into everyday use and even then only by a few, however I have no doubt that it will be widespread sometime in the future. Other things humans didn't get right straight away: flight, television, radio, lightbulb. So to the nay sayers I say wait and see and to Sun I say good on you. At least this company is spending money on innovation and not litigation.
If Sun were to release the Java (spec.) on an Open Source compatible license then we would be laughing. We wouldn't even need an implementation as there is one: blackdown.
Can this be applied to wired transmissions too?
Every software developer knows that big releases to production systems is a bad idea. I would much rather have small incremental releases. That way when a release causes a problem only a small area has to be examined.
Maybe it's different with Microsoft software.
However I expect people like getting there shrink wrapped dvd new version rather than applying a small downloaded patch.
Swisscom is essential Vodafone Switzerland which is part of Vodafone Global one of the largest, if not the largest mobile network provider, in the world.
Now all I need is some Video4Linux drivers for my webcam that work on the 2.6 kernel. Seriously why are these things so damn difficult?
I left my last job as the people I worked with didn't have a clue. Management was clueless, the technical people were clueless and there was zero communication. Some may say I should have stayed and tried to fix it but I say life is too short. Looked for another job - got a good one and I'm now working with some of the best people in the industry, getting paid more and learning loads.
echo "EV1Servers" >> boycott.list
SuSE provided sun with JDS - Sun aren't going to split hairs over licensing with them. Other distros, I believe, fear, can't afford or don't have the expertise to deal with Sun's licensing.
FFS Microsoft couldn't even deal with it.
I have just returned from Sun's two day Tech. Day in London. They were keen to push that they were working closely with Open Source. They pointed out that they were doing things such as JDS (Sun's Linux distro for the desktop - it's pretty much just Suse atm), NetBeans (an open source IDE they support and use within Sun One Studio) and so forth.
Now you can't deny they are using Open Source, but I was finding hard to see how they were contributing. Here are some ideas:
(1.) Increased awareness - nah: they are FUDing things as their own work
(2.) Contributing IP - I can't find demonstrable, significant Sun IP that has been changed to be licensed on an OSS approved license (I maybe wrong).
(3.) Giving Java to the community - noooo, you can't even distribute the Sun JVM or JDK with a linux distro.
I think Sun want to do the right thing - I think they think they are doing the right thing - they clearly have a way to go.
Here's an example.
JSF (Java Server Faces)
This is a MVC based framework used in presentation tiers in Java (mostly web based).
Now what Sun did was hire the project lead from Jakarta's Structs to write the spec and an implementation of JSF.
JSF is a direct competitor to Structs! If a Jakarta was a company this would be an incredible agressive tactic. Hire the project lead and get him/her to develop a new more featureful version of his old product.
If you are telling me that with Debian (which seems to be you distro of choice) that you can get source kernel packages within days after the release, that's great. You can't with Redhat (not from Redhat anyway) and AFAIK not from SuSE or Mandrake (from the respective vendor/groups. Possible Fedora is different, but that still remains to be seen.
Sure you can. It's just easier with Gentoo as it is already in the packaging system with all the dependancies and excellent documentation to tell you how to do it. Further the masking system within Portage allows you to pick whether you want to play with cutting edge releases or hold back with more stable version. Yes, anything can be done on any distro it's all a question of how well and how easily.
There are a number of other distros not mentioned that people should defintely keep an eye on. JDS (Java Desktop System) which is based on Suse I believe. JDS I believe will be a strong contender in the corporate market as it has Sun behind it (all the bosses have heard of Sun). Then there is Gentoo for techie home user (Gentoo's my personal fav). It provided ultimate flexibility - you want the 2.6.2 kernel you just go ahead a compile it.
Don't forget to forward your complains to the Press Complaints Committee. Their email address is complaints@pcc.org.uk remember to include the link to the BBC article within your email.
Imagine a beowulf cluster of these....