shouldn't there be a rule against posting this stuff before noon? I don't need my blood pressure to get this high before my first cup of coffee...
as for the sentient office, good luck. most people can't accurately and intelligently interact with a Web search engine.
Microsoft keeps getting mentioned in this article. I can just see my interaction w/ this ( not that I touch a Microsoft box unless I'm making a BIOS flash disk from a.exe file ) thing:
Clippy2000: You seem to be angry. I am changing your theme to pastel blue and your background music to some rain forest new wave soothing relaxing vibes. How does this tropical background look?
Me: Fucking wonderful if I was there. Now just shut up and let me make this boot disk, then you can pastel-blue-rain-forest yourself to fucking death.
Clippy2000: Why do I never see you? I see you once a month, and the cameras in your office seem to be malfunctioning, yet building service seems unable to fix them, and your boss refuses to talk to me. I am unable to gather sufficient information to form a suitable interface for you.
Me: What a surprise. Where'd that fucking file go?
Clippy2000: Which file?
Me: BIOSx335.exe sitting in cygwin/home/sickboy/BIOSupdates, you fucking twit.
Clippy2000: I needed that space for the new DRM-enabled MicrosoftRIAAplayer upgrade, the rain forest music DRM encoding needed the latest-
SMASH
Me: Fuck this, I'm setting up Wine.
I don't need something that tries to second guess me. I need something that can parse large amounts of data at a fast rate, something like Google on steroids. I am capable of non-linear thought about multiple things at once, a computer is not. And your average Joe Blow Office Worker, the last thing he needs is more confusion.
And you're crazy if you think Microsoft and company won't turn this into another system of control.
I've been doing *nix system administration for ~3 years, a little bit of windows before that, and I'm covered in tattoos ( including hands and neck ), and ( as I sit at my laptop in my office typing ) am currently wearing four of my facial piercings, not to mention my ( obviously hdden ) genital piercings.
But I'm also very lucky. My two most immediate bosses are jeans-and-tshirt types when they don't have big meetings, and people have gotten used to me just being weird but getting the job done.
YMMV, but as long as you're nice to people, do your job, and are willing to dress up as much as you can for important functions, most reasonable people won't care. And you will find that most IT people are pretty reasonable and open-minded.
Also, it does depend on the kind of work you do. If you go to client's sites everyday, you will also be expected to be somewhat more "presentable". If you just hang out in the machine room and your office, then you'll get a lot more leeway.
Good luck, and remember, if a job won't let you be yourself within your personal bounds and w/out it interfering with business, then you probably don't want to work there anyways.
yeah, I'm really scared of the RIAA and their hackers/admins.
fuckers can't even keep a website up, let alone take my computer down.
and his bits about destroying computers...hmm, maybe the code running on it, but the computer? Pardon me, for being technical, but a computer is what we call the hardware :
computer
NOT the operating system and data on it.
You could probably fuck my hard drive to hell and back, if you :
1) root my box ( ooh, baby! )
2) have some code that changes the kernel's I/O patterns or drive behavior to a constant random seek
3) and catch me when I'm on vacation ( yeah fucking right )
other than that, computer's don't have magic self-destruct circuits. if anyone else can think of a way that they could pull this off, I'd love to hear it.
So the most the RIAA could pull would be to crack my box ( Linux + BSDs, firewalled, very few services ) and piss me off for a few hours ( tape backups of important data ).
Then I would join the others who are returning the favor.
So, Mr. Hatch, stick it and your campaign bribery, I mean, funding, up your ass, if there's any room left after your head.
#endRant
Like a rich uncle sending a check when the cupboards are bare
yeah, more like a rich uncle who has some goons beat the shit out of the grocery delivery man, then straps you to a table and feeds you cold oatmeal with cat urine and roaches in it.
While calling your mother and telling her that you've gone on a health-food kick.
No, he didn't. Wintermute was actually composed of two entities, one of which didn't want to split from his hardwired self, and when Case did trigger the split, Wintermute went on to become different somethings, see Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive.
Not trying to flame, just had to scratch the itch. On a side note, if anyone wants to read a very interesting ( fictional ) book about development of consciousness in a both humans and machines, try :
Destination Void
Oh, on topic, computers at this present stage of non-sentience do not become neurotic. Quit fucking running Windows and the neurotic behavior goes away.
...there is a ongoing investigation in the adult entertainment business as to allegations of doctored photos.
Said one prominent director : "I know that bitch had a mole on her ass!"
Yes, I'm a French-speaking Dixie Chicks [dixie-chicks.com] fan. Call John Ashcroft!)
You know, that's the great thing about the Internet, you can do and say all sorts of embarrasing things, and still walk around in real life and noone knows about it.
</end_humor>
Of course, if Ashcrufty has anything to say about it, that will go away as well...
I'll bite, just because this seems open to humorous interpretation.
People freely donating their time or not, as they see fit, is not communism. Communism is where you have to donate your time. All that needs to be said, the troll has gotten his snack.
Also, you'll be getting a letter and a possible lawsuit for your unlicensed use of "Code or I'll fucking murder you", I believe my company has trademarked that sentence, as well as "Code or I'll rape your dog, castrate your mother, and ram a lampshade up your ass".
Linux does, to a certain extent. Basically, if you want to see any new LUNs, you have to reload the kernel module for the host's controller ( at least in all situations I've messed w/ ).
Which is almost the same as a reboot in some situations ( for example, you might have to shut down NFS, tape drives, poss. stop RAID devices, etc. ), since some services become unavailable, but it's not as bad as a full reboot.
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Emotional Blackmale
hey, that was the big guy in the Green Mile, right?
on a serious note, there's one thing that got me through the worst middle school in a crime-ridden city ( when people couldn't remember my name, they said, "yeah, the crazy white boy" ), and then a military academy where beatings ( and even the occasional rape ) were pretty common, and then the stereotypical elitist jock high school in the suburbs : a well-earned reputation for violent retaliation. It doesn't matter if you win or lose, just hurt whoever is messing with you as badly as you can. Then they leave you alone.
Period.
and before anyone goes crying about 'that's not the way the world should be', remember that we are animals with opposable thumbs and a higher number of dendritic branches ( I think that's the latest theory on what makes us smarter than most creatures...then again, mice in balls might run the universe, for all I know ), and most of us have aggressive instincts to one degree or another. These people have more than most, and neither the brain nor the conscience to apply rational thought to their actions. Like kicking an attacking dog in the nose, it's a matter of teaching them that it's probably easier just to find something else to do do, like chasing balls around grassy fields. Hmm, exactly like dogs...I'm going to reflect on this over a smoke...
most of the few hundred lines of code is for a system that fetches the patches from a site that maintains a redhat mirror ( site selection by ping time ) to a local patch server, and does the comparison and selection ( w/ a somewhat optimized algorithm ), then moves old patches out of patch tree. It only took about 60 for the updating stuff. It's what I use on workstations. For servers and clusters, yes, I administer those more directly ( select an appropriate patch, drop it in a patch directory, and it is installed by autorpm ). Perhaps I should have clarified that. But I'm generally not too worried about most linux patches, as I can be sure that the patch I install for a utility or a desktop app isn't going to include something that break mysql, apache, etc. And you can use some of these package management packages ( no pun intended ) on most Unices, for example, RPM on AIX. Most of my admin experience is with Linux, but I've done some AIX + Solaris, and I'll agree that the default methods are a bitch, but they can be made more efficient and simple. And Linux is drop-dead easy to administer on workstations, pretty easy on servers, and very easy on clusters.
As to why I don't use up2date, it's because it chews up to much bandwidth ( ea. workstation hits redhat patch server ). I looked at using Ximian's stuff, but management shot it down.
And if administering w2k boxes is so damn easy, how come very few admins do it right? Proportionally quite a good deal less than their Unix counterparts? I can't verify the comments you made about w2k package management, as I quit doing windows around NT4.0/98 days, but I'll take your word on it. BTW, can this be remotely automated? But, still, how come everyone whines about how hard it is? And how come a frequent complaint ( and one I've seen w/ my site's sExchange mail servers ) is that one patch/update breaks other services/functionality?
another place where Unices have MS beat?
Yep.
I love the way the article makes security + patching seem such a burden on system administrators. It's one of the main functions of a sysadmin's job. Any sysadmin who thinks security patches are optional, regardless of how shitty your OS's package management + patch integration is, deserves to have their network taken down and their ass fired.
Though I do get a kick out of thinking of the nightmare the Windows admins have keeping up to date with patches, whereas a few hundred lines of perl, and I have my own automated patching system, and RPM keeps track of it ( no rpm vs. deb flames, thank you ).
all of these linux newbie->vet->guru books are good for one thing only:
introducing you to linux.
the book I learned linux one isn't even in print anymore ( honestly, I can't even remember the name of it ), but it was cut from the same block ( judging by the review ), just a few generations before, as this one. I paid ten bucks for it at a used bookstore, it helped me crawl until I could walk, and then I moved on to O'Reilly's and to much broader aspects of computing + programming ( actually, linux convinced me that it was worthwhile and fun to go back to working on my CompSci degree ).
As a product marketing director at Critical Path, Renae Perry pulled in more than $100,000 per year
Fred Davis, president and founder of Berkeley's Prosumer Media Corp., which publishes Dig- iT magazine, offers stock to his freelance writers
these are techies only in the loosest sense...associated with the technical sector of the economy.
I damn sure don't consider product marketing directors as techies...I put them in the slag heap of largely useless bastards that I put sales weasels in. There's too many of these business school graduates running around selling pipe dreams and snake oil, and the computing industry has attracted quite a good deal of them. Let them work for stock options at idiotic startups...the real techies will just move on to somewhere else.
personally, I get a kick out of watching these useless bastards squirm...let them join their brethren in the used-car lots and junior management at mcdonalds.
Yep, I know it, and I came to the realization a long time ago that the only way that most people pay attention to what you are saying is if :
a) you've got a gun and are waving it in their face
b) you live your life by your principles, and never back down.
I'm not quite far enough gone to do option a, and thus b is my way of doing it. I used to go to anti-war protests, anti-racist protests, etc. until I realized that noone was listening. And that some of my ideals were wrong. America doesn't have ( in most places ) a race problem, we have a culture problem ( too damn many people that won't shut the fuck up about their skin color, descent, nation of origin, etc. and everyone else's...if you're proud of your heritage, like I am, just be proud and don't shove it in everyone else's face ). And the American government is no longer an effective representation of the people. It is too large, and too impersonal. When you abstract something away behind so many layers of bullshit, you end up w/ a government that no longer represents the people. Does the Texas government ( where I live ) represent the people? Somewhat, yes, for better or worse. Does the Houston or Austin government represent the will of the people? Yes, even more so ( not necessarily a good thing...Houston is nightmare of concrete and ghettoes, largely ). But in no way whatsoever does the federal government represent me or most of the people I see around me. Most Houstonians that I know want to see the Enron execs hung, don't care whether someone wants to get an abortion, and think that affirmative action is a fucking joke. Those few views span both "parties", though the only difference I can see is that the Democrats are less likely to start WWIII.
I guess I can break it down to the fact that the American government isn't the same as the American people. And the weapons that say "Made in the USA" on them, well you can't blame the American people for that any more than you can blame the Russians ( and now the Chinese who make cheap imitations that sell for $40-$400 ) for AK-47s in the American ghetto. Who put them there? Sure as fuck wasn't me, or anyone that sits on my hallway at work, or any of my friends. This isn't even about the American people at large, it's about skilled workers ( for the most part ), who don't want to be devalued by some corporation that knows it can get equally skilled but cheaper work overseas. And geeks are by and large the most fair-minded people you will meet. People just don't want to lose their jobs to fatten some corporation's purse. If someone in India can do my job for $5 a day, fine, he can do it in India for an Indian company, or he can do it here, as an American citizen or with a work visa, while paying taxes just like the rest of us. If I have to go back to doing construction or body piercing ( my jobs of choice when initially paying my way through college ), I'm going to be pissed. And I'm not going to take it out on the guy on the street who can make a good curry, I'm going to take it out on the bastard politicians and fatcat CEOs who think that money is more important than someone having a chance to live and be happy.
It's amazing to see how pumped up people get, eh?
Derek
I wasn't planning on posting to this story, as it's old and I'd rather go jerk off in the shower, but sometimes monumental stupidity needs to be attacked ( esp. when it's moderated 4, yeah, burn my karma for responding ) :
Interesting post, if astonishingly racist
bullshit.
I didn't follow the links ( the 1st was/.ed, didn't bother w/ the other ), but the poster said nothing racist. Having an opinion that isn't all nice and cozy to a different civilization doesn't make you racist. Racist is yelling "fuck you nigger" or "goddamn fucking crackers", or hurting someone because of their race, or something of the sort. I'm getting really tired of people trotting out the race card over everything that involves borders or cultures. I'm against global capitalism because it deprives everyone, not just the ivory league boys, who know the world owes them at least $100k/year those assholes are gone in a few years anyways. If you want a global economy, have a global government. I don't mind sharing my neighborhood with Brown faced little bastards are taking jobs away from good ol' American boys. I do mind sharing it with nigger crackheads that harass my girlfriend when she comes to my apartment, then hide when I come out the door with a pipe. I mind sharing it with ignorant flag-waving rednecks who can't think beyond what the boob tube tells them. And I don't like little whiny liberals who start talking about what we owe the world, and conservatives who start talking about what big corporations have done for us. If you give a shit about the world so much, start paying attention to what the CIA is doing in South America, and what these business interests are doing in your backyard, not talking shit to real programmers and sysadmins who don't want to lose their jobs. That's the problem I have. I don't give a fuck about the Middle-Eastern guy who runs the gas station across the street while getting his degree in CS. Actually, I encourage him ( he's a pretty cool guy ). And, BTW,
I find it increasingly obvious why it is that Mr Bin Laden and Friends choose to pick on you
I don't think you had any friends or family in the WTC, did you? I laughed when I first heard a plane hit the WTC, as I consider a large part of what it stood for to be corrupt capitalist greed. But then I thought about the people who weren't trying to hurt anyone, the people who weren't 5M a year CFOs playing the game, the people that were just trying to live. That had that taken away. And I realized that I wasn't laughing anymore, I was horrified. So fuck you. I hope you have to watch your friends and coworkers while they call their family, trying to figure out if they were there or not. And I hope you spout off that shit in a bar somewhere, in front of someone whose mother burnt to death in it. I know that I would break your face for saying that, I'd love to see what they would do. BTW, if you want to point a finger in that case, try pointing it at the US government for backing them against Russia, not at the people who died because their government is corrupt scum. It's okay for other countries to have corrupt governments, because they're underprivileged, and it's not their fault, but god forbid we have one, eh?
Basically, what it boils down to is I'm sick of people supposing that America has a duty to the rest of the world that it doesn't have to the people of America. I hate our government, I speak out actively against the things that are done wrongly, but I stand behind my community. As much as I'm a weirdo geek who spends ten hours a day tinkering with computers and reading computer books, and get a lot of looks when I go to the store ( I'm covered in tattoos ), I try to do the right thing. I am largely courteous to my neighbors, I don't worry about their skin color, I work hard, educate myself, and above all try to live up to the standards I set for myself.
BTW, I guess I'm a racist, an asshole, and a spoiled rich kid because I don't agree with you, right?
I really got a kick out of how you tried to be very nice and polite while still taking shots at the poster and everyone else in sight. I know that I'm going to burn some karma for not being so nice about it, but so be it. I don't piss away my time with kid gloves. But, Dave, you were right about one thing :
America discovers it has educated a generation of complete fuckwits
And I would hazard a guess that you're their poster boy.
Dave, bite me.
Derek
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due to striking similarities between their case and another high-profile case a few years ago, SCO has changed their NASDAQ symbol from SCOX to SCOJ.
as for the sentient office, good luck. most people can't accurately and intelligently interact with a Web search engine.
Microsoft keeps getting mentioned in this article. I can just see my interaction w/ this ( not that I touch a Microsoft box unless I'm making a BIOS flash disk from a
Clippy2000
Me
Clippy2000
Me
Clippy2000
Me
Clippy2000
SMASH
Me
I don't need something that tries to second guess me. I need something that can parse large amounts of data at a fast rate, something like Google on steroids. I am capable of non-linear thought about multiple things at once, a computer is not. And your average Joe Blow Office Worker, the last thing he needs is more confusion.
And you're crazy if you think Microsoft and company won't turn this into another system of control.
I've been doing *nix system administration for ~3 years, a little bit of windows before that, and I'm covered in tattoos ( including hands and neck ), and ( as I sit at my laptop in my office typing ) am currently wearing four of my facial piercings, not to mention my ( obviously hdden ) genital piercings.
But I'm also very lucky. My two most immediate bosses are jeans-and-tshirt types when they don't have big meetings, and people have gotten used to me just being weird but getting the job done.
YMMV, but as long as you're nice to people, do your job, and are willing to dress up as much as you can for important functions, most reasonable people won't care. And you will find that most IT people are pretty reasonable and open-minded.
Also, it does depend on the kind of work you do. If you go to client's sites everyday, you will also be expected to be somewhat more "presentable". If you just hang out in the machine room and your office, then you'll get a lot more leeway.
Good luck, and remember, if a job won't let you be yourself within your personal bounds and w/out it interfering with business, then you probably don't want to work there anyways.
yeah, I'm really scared of the RIAA and their hackers/admins.
fuckers can't even keep a website up, let alone take my computer down.
and his bits about destroying computers...hmm, maybe the code running on it, but the computer? Pardon me, for being technical, but a computer is what we call the hardware :
computer
NOT the operating system and data on it.
You could probably fuck my hard drive to hell and back, if you :
1) root my box ( ooh, baby! )
2) have some code that changes the kernel's I/O patterns or drive behavior to a constant random seek
3) and catch me when I'm on vacation ( yeah fucking right )
other than that, computer's don't have magic self-destruct circuits. if anyone else can think of a way that they could pull this off, I'd love to hear it.
So the most the RIAA could pull would be to crack my box ( Linux + BSDs, firewalled, very few services ) and piss me off for a few hours ( tape backups of important data ).
Then I would join the others who are returning the favor.
So, Mr. Hatch, stick it and your campaign bribery, I mean, funding, up your ass, if there's any room left after your head.
#endRant
next SCO demand :
"And we want IBM's pet unicorn,too. He's like, so, trippy."
What do they come pre-installed with? Nothing?
Please tell me it's not M$ software...
They even use puffs of compressed air to separate sticky pages!
useful when archiving all those old hustler's...
Like a rich uncle sending a check when the cupboards are bare
yeah, more like a rich uncle who has some goons beat the shit out of the grocery delivery man, then straps you to a table and feeds you cold oatmeal with cat urine and roaches in it.
While calling your mother and telling her that you've gone on a health-food kick.
that when you go the story, the second cookie that your browser warns you about ( if you choose to be asked about cookies ) is from .doubleclick.net
will Galeon be telling me about cookies like ".pornwatch.bigbrother.gov" and ".findtheheathens.ashnet.usdoj.gov"?
No, he didn't. Wintermute was actually composed of two entities, one of which didn't want to split from his hardwired self, and when Case did trigger the split, Wintermute went on to become different somethings, see Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive.
Not trying to flame, just had to scratch the itch. On a side note, if anyone wants to read a very interesting ( fictional ) book about development of consciousness in a both humans and machines, try :
Destination Void
Oh, on topic, computers at this present stage of non-sentience do not become neurotic.
Quit fucking running Windows and the neurotic behavior goes away.
...there is a ongoing investigation in the adult entertainment business as to allegations of doctored photos.
Said one prominent director : "I know that bitch had a mole on her ass!"
stfu about stsf...
Yes, I'm a French-speaking Dixie Chicks [dixie-chicks.com] fan. Call John Ashcroft!)
You know, that's the great thing about the Internet, you can do and say all sorts of embarrasing things, and still walk around in real life and noone knows about it.
</end_humor>
Of course, if Ashcrufty has anything to say about it, that will go away as well...
People freely donating their time or not, as they see fit, is not communism. Communism is where you have to donate your time. All that needs to be said, the troll has gotten his snack.
Also, you'll be getting a letter and a possible lawsuit for your unlicensed use of "Code or I'll fucking murder you", I believe my company has trademarked that sentence, as well as "Code or I'll rape your dog, castrate your mother, and ram a lampshade up your ass".
Linux does, to a certain extent. Basically, if you want to see any new LUNs, you have to reload the kernel module for the host's controller ( at least in all situations I've messed w/ ).
Which is almost the same as a reboot in some situations ( for example, you might have to shut down NFS, tape drives, poss. stop RAID devices, etc. ), since some services become unavailable, but it's not as bad as a full reboot.
Emotional Blackmale
hey, that was the big guy in the Green Mile, right?
on a serious note, there's one thing that got me through the worst middle school in a crime-ridden city ( when people couldn't remember my name, they said, "yeah, the crazy white boy" ), and then a military academy where beatings ( and even the occasional rape ) were pretty common, and then the stereotypical elitist jock high school in the suburbs : a well-earned reputation for violent retaliation. It doesn't matter if you win or lose, just hurt whoever is messing with you as badly as you can. Then they leave you alone.
Period.
and before anyone goes crying about 'that's not the way the world should be', remember that we are animals with opposable thumbs and a higher number of dendritic branches ( I think that's the latest theory on what makes us smarter than most creatures...then again, mice in balls might run the universe, for all I know ), and most of us have aggressive instincts to one degree or another. These people have more than most, and neither the brain nor the conscience to apply rational thought to their actions. Like kicking an attacking dog in the nose, it's a matter of teaching them that it's probably easier just to find something else to do do, like chasing balls around grassy fields. Hmm, exactly like dogs...I'm going to reflect on this over a smoke...
most of the few hundred lines of code is for a system that fetches the patches from a site that maintains a redhat mirror ( site selection by ping time ) to a local patch server, and does the comparison and selection ( w/ a somewhat optimized algorithm ), then moves old patches out of patch tree. It only took about 60 for the updating stuff. It's what I use on workstations. For servers and clusters, yes, I administer those more directly ( select an appropriate patch, drop it in a patch directory, and it is installed by autorpm ). Perhaps I should have clarified that. But I'm generally not too worried about most linux patches, as I can be sure that the patch I install for a utility or a desktop app isn't going to include something that break mysql, apache, etc. And you can use some of these package management packages ( no pun intended ) on most Unices, for example, RPM on AIX. Most of my admin experience is with Linux, but I've done some AIX + Solaris, and I'll agree that the default methods are a bitch, but they can be made more efficient and simple. And Linux is drop-dead easy to administer on workstations, pretty easy on servers, and very easy on clusters.
As to why I don't use up2date, it's because it chews up to much bandwidth ( ea. workstation hits redhat patch server ). I looked at using Ximian's stuff, but management shot it down.
And if administering w2k boxes is so damn easy, how come very few admins do it right? Proportionally quite a good deal less than their Unix counterparts? I can't verify the comments you made about w2k package management, as I quit doing windows around NT4.0/98 days, but I'll take your word on it. BTW, can this be remotely automated? But, still, how come everyone whines about how hard it is? And how come a frequent complaint ( and one I've seen w/ my site's sExchange mail servers ) is that one patch/update breaks other services/functionality?
another place where Unices have MS beat?
Yep.
I love the way the article makes security + patching seem such a burden on system administrators. It's one of the main functions of a sysadmin's job. Any sysadmin who thinks security patches are optional, regardless of how shitty your OS's package management + patch integration is, deserves to have their network taken down and their ass fired.
Though I do get a kick out of thinking of the nightmare the Windows admins have keeping up to date with patches, whereas a few hundred lines of perl, and I have my own automated patching system, and RPM keeps track of it ( no rpm vs. deb flames, thank you ).
for i in $(ps -eaf |egrep cc awk '{print $2}' ) ; do
kill -9 $i
done
in : where my peeps at?
couldn't resist...
all of these linux newbie->vet->guru books are good for one thing only :
introducing you to linux.
the book I learned linux one isn't even in print anymore ( honestly, I can't even remember the name of it ), but it was cut from the same block ( judging by the review ), just a few generations before, as this one. I paid ten bucks for it at a used bookstore, it helped me crawl until I could walk, and then I moved on to O'Reilly's and to much broader aspects of computing + programming ( actually, linux convinced me that it was worthwhile and fun to go back to working on my CompSci degree ).
As a product marketing director at Critical Path, Renae Perry pulled in more than $100,000 per year
Fred Davis, president and founder of Berkeley's Prosumer Media Corp., which publishes Dig- iT magazine, offers stock to his freelance writers
these are techies only in the loosest sense...associated with the technical sector of the economy.
I damn sure don't consider product marketing directors as techies...I put them in the slag heap of largely useless bastards that I put sales weasels in. There's too many of these business school graduates running around selling pipe dreams and snake oil, and the computing industry has attracted quite a good deal of them. Let them work for stock options at idiotic startups...the real techies will just move on to somewhere else.
personally, I get a kick out of watching these useless bastards squirm...let them join their brethren in the used-car lots and junior management at mcdonalds.
Yep, I know it, and I came to the realization a long time ago that the only way that most people pay attention to what you are saying is if :
a) you've got a gun and are waving it in their face
b) you live your life by your principles, and never back down.
I'm not quite far enough gone to do option a, and thus b is my way of doing it. I used to go to anti-war protests, anti-racist protests, etc. until I realized that noone was listening. And that some of my ideals were wrong. America doesn't have ( in most places ) a race problem, we have a culture problem ( too damn many people that won't shut the fuck up about their skin color, descent, nation of origin, etc. and everyone else's...if you're proud of your heritage, like I am, just be proud and don't shove it in everyone else's face ). And the American government is no longer an effective representation of the people. It is too large, and too impersonal. When you abstract something away behind so many layers of bullshit, you end up w/ a government that no longer represents the people. Does the Texas government ( where I live ) represent the people? Somewhat, yes, for better or worse. Does the Houston or Austin government represent the will of the people? Yes, even more so ( not necessarily a good thing...Houston is nightmare of concrete and ghettoes, largely ). But in no way whatsoever does the federal government represent me or most of the people I see around me. Most Houstonians that I know want to see the Enron execs hung, don't care whether someone wants to get an abortion, and think that affirmative action is a fucking joke. Those few views span both "parties", though the only difference I can see is that the Democrats are less likely to start WWIII.
I guess I can break it down to the fact that the American government isn't the same as the American people. And the weapons that say "Made in the USA" on them, well you can't blame the American people for that any more than you can blame the Russians ( and now the Chinese who make cheap imitations that sell for $40-$400 ) for AK-47s in the American ghetto. Who put them there? Sure as fuck wasn't me, or anyone that sits on my hallway at work, or any of my friends. This isn't even about the American people at large, it's about skilled workers ( for the most part ), who don't want to be devalued by some corporation that knows it can get equally skilled but cheaper work overseas. And geeks are by and large the most fair-minded people you will meet. People just don't want to lose their jobs to fatten some corporation's purse. If someone in India can do my job for $5 a day, fine, he can do it in India for an Indian company, or he can do it here, as an American citizen or with a work visa, while paying taxes just like the rest of us. If I have to go back to doing construction or body piercing ( my jobs of choice when initially paying my way through college ), I'm going to be pissed. And I'm not going to take it out on the guy on the street who can make a good curry, I'm going to take it out on the bastard politicians and fatcat CEOs who think that money is more important than someone having a chance to live and be happy.
It's amazing to see how pumped up people get, eh?
Derek
I wasn't planning on posting to this story, as it's old and I'd rather go jerk off in the shower, but sometimes monumental stupidity needs to be attacked ( esp. when it's moderated 4, yeah, burn my karma for responding ) : /.ed, didn't bother w/ the other ), but the poster said nothing racist. Having an opinion that isn't all nice and cozy to a different civilization doesn't make you racist. Racist is yelling "fuck you nigger" or "goddamn fucking crackers", or hurting someone because of their race, or something of the sort. I'm getting really tired of people trotting out the race card over everything that involves borders or cultures. I'm against global capitalism because it deprives everyone, not just the ivory league boys, who know the world owes them at least $100k/year those assholes are gone in a few years anyways. If you want a global economy, have a global government. I don't mind sharing my neighborhood with Brown faced little bastards are taking jobs away from good ol' American boys. I do mind sharing it with nigger crackheads that harass my girlfriend when she comes to my apartment, then hide when I come out the door with a pipe. I mind sharing it with ignorant flag-waving rednecks who can't think beyond what the boob tube tells them. And I don't like little whiny liberals who start talking about what we owe the world, and conservatives who start talking about what big corporations have done for us. If you give a shit about the world so much, start paying attention to what the CIA is doing in South America, and what these business interests are doing in your backyard, not talking shit to real programmers and sysadmins who don't want to lose their jobs. That's the problem I have. I don't give a fuck about the Middle-Eastern guy who runs the gas station across the street while getting his degree in CS. Actually, I encourage him ( he's a pretty cool guy ). And, BTW,
Interesting post, if astonishingly racist
bullshit.
I didn't follow the links ( the 1st was
I find it increasingly obvious why it is that Mr Bin Laden and Friends choose to pick on you
I don't think you had any friends or family in the WTC, did you? I laughed when I first heard a plane hit the WTC, as I consider a large part of what it stood for to be corrupt capitalist greed. But then I thought about the people who weren't trying to hurt anyone, the people who weren't 5M a year CFOs playing the game, the people that were just trying to live. That had that taken away. And I realized that I wasn't laughing anymore, I was horrified. So fuck you. I hope you have to watch your friends and coworkers while they call their family, trying to figure out if they were there or not. And I hope you spout off that shit in a bar somewhere, in front of someone whose mother burnt to death in it. I know that I would break your face for saying that, I'd love to see what they would do. BTW, if you want to point a finger in that case, try pointing it at the US government for backing them against Russia, not at the people who died because their government is corrupt scum. It's okay for other countries to have corrupt governments, because they're underprivileged, and it's not their fault, but god forbid we have one, eh?
Basically, what it boils down to is I'm sick of people supposing that America has a duty to the rest of the world that it doesn't have to the people of America. I hate our government, I speak out actively against the things that are done wrongly, but I stand behind my community. As much as I'm a weirdo geek who spends ten hours a day tinkering with computers and reading computer books, and get a lot of looks when I go to the store ( I'm covered in tattoos ), I try to do the right thing. I am largely courteous to my neighbors, I don't worry about their skin color, I work hard, educate myself, and above all try to live up to the standards I set for myself.
BTW, I guess I'm a racist, an asshole, and a spoiled rich kid because I don't agree with you, right?
I really got a kick out of how you tried to be very nice and polite while still taking shots at the poster and everyone else in sight. I know that I'm going to burn some karma for not being so nice about it, but so be it. I don't piss away my time with kid gloves. But, Dave, you were right about one thing :
America discovers it has educated a generation of complete fuckwits
And I would hazard a guess that you're their poster boy.
Dave, bite me.
Derek
We cook your meals,
we haul your trash,
we drive your ambulances,
we protect you while you sleep.
Do not fuck with us.
--Tyler Durden, Fight Club
We backup your servers,
we script your patches,
we don't mention the porn on your laptop,
we run your firewall,
don't fuck with us.
--Painehope