I was just responding to the insult thrown at me, which just goes to show who was really "losing" the argument (if there really ever was one), according to your theory.
Where I grew up, a big real estate speculator funded a political organization that would pick up old folks from their homes, prime them to vote against anything and anyone that might raise real-estate taxes...
Sounds like a republican "political organization" there. It happens on both sides, so don't get too slap happy with the Democrats. All politicians are wicked thieves who would sell their mothers' souls to get elected. It's just a matter of who they sell those souls to. For Repubs, it's big business and the rich. For Dems, it's working class organizations. For independents, it's... well, they really don't have any organizational backing, which is why hardly any of them win elections... Either way, "helping" people vote is not specific to any one party.
The whole problem here is that our population is dumb and the only way to get us some useful politicians in office is to educate the population. Unfortunately, education is also run by business, government and religious organizations who have self-serving agendas. Catch-22, so I guess it's pretty much hopeless...
This reminds me of the problems we had at the Universty of Michigan a number of years back with the student government elections, which allowed students to vote online. The problem arose because candidates would walk through the dorms pumping their platform, knock on people's doors, log them into the voting website and show them how easy it was to vote for them. Obviously, quite an uproar came about because of this and I'm sure a similar situation would occur on the bigger scale elections.
Couldn't you just imagine the candidates to sending out their lackies to people's homes showing them how to vote online and how to click on their candidate's name and then click the submit button? I wouldn't put it by any political party to try this type of underhanded scheme, and I hope we never ever see that.
We won't get online voting for another 10-20 years and especially not until we can safeguard against "attacks" like these.
On a sidenote, I'd be interested to hear from any current Michigan folks to know if the student elections are still happening online.
Actually, I'm neither a strict creationist, nor a strict evolutionist. I believe in a higher power and a higher order to the universe, but also believe that that power manifests itself through natural processes like evolution (or like planting grape seeds and watering them to "turn water into wine").
I don't consider that higer power as a whiz-bang magician, but rather a structured collection of processes that may or may not be directed by an actual "being." Evolution just happens to be one of those structured processes.
Guess Dubya and his whole family, as well as the rest of the political world won't be taking any trips to the Moon in the near future. That's okay with me. We can just leave here to blow each other up while the rest of us useful people head to the stars.
Just shows how much you know. I was in no way insinuating that it was hard for Windows users to read text files.
What I WAS pointing out was that there's just as much resistance in the Linux world to thing that are different from what they use as there is in the Windows world.
I recieve a LOT of mail. Much of it is from Linux geekoids.
Those users expect me to be able to read their crappy ass text format files without complaint. (Like I am going to spend a large part of my spare time installing and tweaking an arcane, hard to use operating system in order to read their email.)
They expect that I read their non-formatted mail with bizzare Unix-only line feeds.
These are the same people who become totally baffled if I send them a Word document like the rest of the civilized world does.
At some point you get tired of dealing with people who expect the world to conform to their expectations and platform while making *no* effort to adapt to anything outside of their narrow world-view.
You must be stupid. Shorting involves selling something you don't have and buying it back later at a lower price. I don't believe you have the ability to sell goods you don't own in this game!
After this article and the immediately preceding one (CD copy protection), I'm feeling pretty damn good about the world. What a way to end the week! It seems we're not going to hell in a handbasket quite yet...
Just goes to show, there actually *are* sane people in the legal and business worlds.
Although currently demonstrating its technology on very small bit strings, ZeoSync expects to overcome the existing temporal restraints of its technology and optimize its algorithms to lead to significant changes in how data is stored and transmitted.
i.e. - some guy in research made a little doohickey that compressed "Your Mom!" to the bit string 100101010.
"Nothing to see here, folks! Move along, move along!"
Oh my, there certainly were not enough parenthetical statements in that paragraph! You should add some more for our reading pleasure. A few recursive one would do nicely, to allow my mind to completely lose track of the flow of the sentence, rather than only partly losing it...
You know, rereading your post, I would never hire you, no matter how much job experience you had. Not being able to complete a college degree, even after 3 tries, makes me believe you don't know how to commit yourself to getting the job done. Doesn't matter to me whether you know your shit or not. There are plenty of people who know as much or more than you. Your ability to see the job through to completion is very lacking, making your resume a very likely candidate for the trash bin.
"You have been weighed, you have been measured and you have come up wanting."
Thank you for coming out of the dark. I applaud you.
I am not missing your point. I understand the value of experience and I would certainly value it highly when choosing candidates. But I think you undervalue the University experience. In fact, I completely reject your notion that someone coming out of a college has no real-world experience.
Most Universities today provide ample opportunities for students to gain real-world job experience during their education, whether it be as working in the departments of the University, co-op programs with local and non-local companies as well as research positions, which take theoretical work learned in the classroom and apply it to real works in progress.
A graduate coming out of the Universities these days has quite a lot of experience to match and exceed someone who has just been working for those 4 years. And if they are the type of person I described before: one who loves to learn, loves to be challenged, loves to seek out new information and new projects to keep them occupied (which may or may not be the same type of person who went out into the work force right after high school), then they are an even BETTER choice for an employer.
Unlike you, I don't see 4 years at college as wasted time. In fact, seeing a person who has a degree proves to me that he/she has set his/her mind on a goal and accomplished it and there is no better proof than that that this person knows how to get the job done.
But I would look even further than just a degree. I would look for someone who has a drive within them to learn and to better themselves. I would look for a person who has the qualities of a self-learner (like someone who chose not to go to college but learned their skills on their own time) as well as a person who has chosen to seek education from an institution of higher learning, where they were not on their own, but were challenged by others as well as themselves to seek and attain knowledge in their field (and others).
So again, I say to you, it is not THIS or THAT but BOTH. I do not consider a higher education a waste.
Oh please coward. Come out and discuss this with your actual name. I didn't see any defensive attitude in my post. It seems a couple people here are taking things a bit too seriously.
I also never talked about "wet behind the ears college graduates." I talked about people who love to program, who love science, who love to fiddle, and who went to college to further their education as well. Like I said before, there are a lot of people here, yourself included, who are "THIS or THAT" and who can't see the actual better solution, which is BOTH, like me.;-)
Whatever dude. You obviously have no sense of humor. I guess you'll be missing out on the best employee you'll ever have because of your ultra-narrow outlook on the world. Perhaps it is you who needs the lesson in humility, since you obviously like to look down on college educated folk and stroke your own ego in order to compensate for you inferiority complex because you never went to school.
What about all us geeks who actually have a degree PLUS are self-taught, self-starters who love to program, run networks at home, program on the side when we get done with work, love science and math and just plain rule over all of you? Who would YOU hire? I'd hire me.
Really? What about all those atheists who were involved in either World War who "believed in freedom enough to die for it"? Or is it only people with a religious alignment (i.e. those who are courageous enough to make any decision) who are stupid for having ideals?
You unfortunately mistake self-defense for a religion. Dying for the sake of your own twist on the belief of a higher power is a far cry from dying to protect your homes, families and way of life. To equate the two is ignorant.
uptime, shmuptime. I keep my Win2K machine up for weeks, only rebooting when Tribes 2 crashes (which is a Tribes 2 bug) or when I install new software the requires the boot. And I only reboot for Tribes 2 because it screws up the screen gamma correction and it looks horrible. The OS handles it all in stride. No crashes, no pain, no shit.
Besides, I don't measure the quality of my OS from its uptime. I mean, I'm not an application server here, I'm a desktop user, and god damn it if Windows 2000 isn't one of the finest OSes ever. It's pretty damn sweet and I'm not a Microsoft junkie either. I will run whatever works well for me, switching between Windows and Linux frequently in the early nineties. But ever since I installed WinNT 4.0 and then Win2K, I haven't gone back. The UI is just better. The applications are better. Visual Studio is a kick ass IDE and the games, man. The GAMES!
The only things people can gripe about regarding Microsoft's OSes are the 3.1, 95s and 98s. Trust me, the new OSes are much, MUCH better. The only people here who continue to deride Windows do it with no reason whatsoever except their desire to stroke themselves. Fuck that, I'll stick with Win2K, ladies and gents.
And you sir, are a jackass who didn't have the balls to come out from behind your Anonymous hiding place to call me stupid to my "face." Have some guts your spineless weasel. You're right, I didn't think about starting the car 10 minutes before getting there, because never in my life have I ever seen someone actually do that. Everyone I've seen with an external car starter clicks it 5 seconds before they get in the car, thus my comment. Thank you for correcting me, but no thanks for the assoholic methodology of your reply.
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I was just responding to the insult thrown at me, which just goes to show who was really "losing" the argument (if there really ever was one), according to your theory.
It's more than what most creationists need to believe.
Where I grew up, a big real estate speculator funded a political organization that would pick up old folks from their homes, prime them to vote against anything and anyone that might raise real-estate taxes...
Sounds like a republican "political organization" there. It happens on both sides, so don't get too slap happy with the Democrats. All politicians are wicked thieves who would sell their mothers' souls to get elected. It's just a matter of who they sell those souls to. For Repubs, it's big business and the rich. For Dems, it's working class organizations. For independents, it's... well, they really don't have any organizational backing, which is why hardly any of them win elections... Either way, "helping" people vote is not specific to any one party.
The whole problem here is that our population is dumb and the only way to get us some useful politicians in office is to educate the population. Unfortunately, education is also run by business, government and religious organizations who have self-serving agendas. Catch-22, so I guess it's pretty much hopeless...
This reminds me of the problems we had at the Universty of Michigan a number of years back with the student government elections, which allowed students to vote online. The problem arose because candidates would walk through the dorms pumping their platform, knock on people's doors, log them into the voting website and show them how easy it was to vote for them. Obviously, quite an uproar came about because of this and I'm sure a similar situation would occur on the bigger scale elections.
Couldn't you just imagine the candidates to sending out their lackies to people's homes showing them how to vote online and how to click on their candidate's name and then click the submit button? I wouldn't put it by any political party to try this type of underhanded scheme, and I hope we never ever see that.
We won't get online voting for another 10-20 years and especially not until we can safeguard against "attacks" like these.
On a sidenote, I'd be interested to hear from any current Michigan folks to know if the student elections are still happening online.
Peace out.
Cute.
Actually, I'm neither a strict creationist, nor a strict evolutionist. I believe in a higher power and a higher order to the universe, but also believe that that power manifests itself through natural processes like evolution (or like planting grape seeds and watering them to "turn water into wine").
I don't consider that higer power as a whiz-bang magician, but rather a structured collection of processes that may or may not be directed by an actual "being." Evolution just happens to be one of those structured processes.
And I'll believe in creation when you turn my water into wine.
Guess Dubya and his whole family, as well as the rest of the political world won't be taking any trips to the Moon in the near future. That's okay with me. We can just leave here to blow each other up while the rest of us useful people head to the stars.
If you call blowing up things with pipe-bombs "social justice" then you have your head screwed on incorrectly.
Do you guys just not read your own site? Please cut down the duplication!
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Just shows how much you know. I was in no way insinuating that it was hard for Windows users to read text files.
What I WAS pointing out was that there's just as much resistance in the Linux world to thing that are different from what they use as there is in the Windows world.
Perhaps the humor was a bit too deep for you?
I recieve a LOT of mail. Much of it is from Linux geekoids.
:-)
Those users expect me to be able to read their crappy ass text format files without complaint. (Like I am going to spend a large part of my spare time installing and tweaking an arcane, hard to use operating system in order to read their email.)
They expect that I read their non-formatted mail with bizzare Unix-only line feeds.
These are the same people who become totally baffled if I send them a Word document like the rest of the civilized world does.
At some point you get tired of dealing with people who expect the world to conform to their expectations and platform while making *no* effort to adapt to anything outside of their narrow world-view.
etc, etc, etc... Need I say more?
You must be stupid. Shorting involves selling something you don't have and buying it back later at a lower price. I don't believe you have the ability to sell goods you don't own in this game!
After this article and the immediately preceding one (CD copy protection), I'm feeling pretty damn good about the world. What a way to end the week! It seems we're not going to hell in a handbasket quite yet...
Just goes to show, there actually *are* sane people in the legal and business worlds.
Although currently demonstrating its technology on very small bit strings, ZeoSync expects to overcome the existing temporal restraints of its technology and optimize its algorithms to lead to significant changes in how data is stored and transmitted.
i.e. - some guy in research made a little doohickey that compressed "Your Mom!" to the bit string 100101010.
"Nothing to see here, folks! Move along, move along!"
Oh my, there certainly were not enough parenthetical statements in that paragraph! You should add some more for our reading pleasure. A few recursive one would do nicely, to allow my mind to completely lose track of the flow of the sentence, rather than only partly losing it...
You know, rereading your post, I would never hire you, no matter how much job experience you had. Not being able to complete a college degree, even after 3 tries, makes me believe you don't know how to commit yourself to getting the job done. Doesn't matter to me whether you know your shit or not. There are plenty of people who know as much or more than you. Your ability to see the job through to completion is very lacking, making your resume a very likely candidate for the trash bin.
"You have been weighed, you have been measured and you have come up wanting."
CYA
Thank you for coming out of the dark. I applaud you.
I am not missing your point. I understand the value of experience and I would certainly value it highly when choosing candidates. But I think you undervalue the University experience. In fact, I completely reject your notion that someone coming out of a college has no real-world experience.
Most Universities today provide ample opportunities for students to gain real-world job experience during their education, whether it be as working in the departments of the University, co-op programs with local and non-local companies as well as research positions, which take theoretical work learned in the classroom and apply it to real works in progress.
A graduate coming out of the Universities these days has quite a lot of experience to match and exceed someone who has just been working for those 4 years. And if they are the type of person I described before: one who loves to learn, loves to be challenged, loves to seek out new information and new projects to keep them occupied (which may or may not be the same type of person who went out into the work force right after high school), then they are an even BETTER choice for an employer.
Unlike you, I don't see 4 years at college as wasted time. In fact, seeing a person who has a degree proves to me that he/she has set his/her mind on a goal and accomplished it and there is no better proof than that that this person knows how to get the job done.
But I would look even further than just a degree. I would look for someone who has a drive within them to learn and to better themselves. I would look for a person who has the qualities of a self-learner (like someone who chose not to go to college but learned their skills on their own time) as well as a person who has chosen to seek education from an institution of higher learning, where they were not on their own, but were challenged by others as well as themselves to seek and attain knowledge in their field (and others).
So again, I say to you, it is not THIS or THAT but BOTH. I do not consider a higher education a waste.
Oh please coward. Come out and discuss this with your actual name. I didn't see any defensive attitude in my post. It seems a couple people here are taking things a bit too seriously.
;-)
I also never talked about "wet behind the ears college graduates." I talked about people who love to program, who love science, who love to fiddle, and who went to college to further their education as well. Like I said before, there are a lot of people here, yourself included, who are "THIS or THAT" and who can't see the actual better solution, which is BOTH, like me.
I'm sorry. Let me clarify - never got a degree
Still doesn't dismiss the fact that you need a lesson in humility yourself.
Whatever dude. You obviously have no sense of humor. I guess you'll be missing out on the best employee you'll ever have because of your ultra-narrow outlook on the world. Perhaps it is you who needs the lesson in humility, since you obviously like to look down on college educated folk and stroke your own ego in order to compensate for you inferiority complex because you never went to school.
All you people are so "THIS or THAT"
What about all us geeks who actually have a degree PLUS are self-taught, self-starters who love to program, run networks at home, program on the side when we get done with work, love science and math and just plain rule over all of you? Who would YOU hire? I'd hire me.
Really? What about all those atheists who were involved in either World War who "believed in freedom enough to die for it"? Or is it only people with a religious alignment (i.e. those who are courageous enough to make any decision) who are stupid for having ideals?
You unfortunately mistake self-defense for a religion. Dying for the sake of your own twist on the belief of a higher power is a far cry from dying to protect your homes, families and way of life. To equate the two is ignorant.
uptime, shmuptime. I keep my Win2K machine up for weeks, only rebooting when Tribes 2 crashes (which is a Tribes 2 bug) or when I install new software the requires the boot. And I only reboot for Tribes 2 because it screws up the screen gamma correction and it looks horrible. The OS handles it all in stride. No crashes, no pain, no shit.
Besides, I don't measure the quality of my OS from its uptime. I mean, I'm not an application server here, I'm a desktop user, and god damn it if Windows 2000 isn't one of the finest OSes ever. It's pretty damn sweet and I'm not a Microsoft junkie either. I will run whatever works well for me, switching between Windows and Linux frequently in the early nineties. But ever since I installed WinNT 4.0 and then Win2K, I haven't gone back. The UI is just better. The applications are better. Visual Studio is a kick ass IDE and the games, man. The GAMES!
The only things people can gripe about regarding Microsoft's OSes are the 3.1, 95s and 98s. Trust me, the new OSes are much, MUCH better. The only people here who continue to deride Windows do it with no reason whatsoever except their desire to stroke themselves. Fuck that, I'll stick with Win2K, ladies and gents.
Hmmm, maybe it crashed because Netscape makes a crappy ass browser that can't do shit. Who's fault is it really?
And you sir, are a jackass who didn't have the balls to come out from behind your Anonymous hiding place to call me stupid to my "face." Have some guts your spineless weasel. You're right, I didn't think about starting the car 10 minutes before getting there, because never in my life have I ever seen someone actually do that. Everyone I've seen with an external car starter clicks it 5 seconds before they get in the car, thus my comment. Thank you for correcting me, but no thanks for the assoholic methodology of your reply.