But, as far as I can tell, MySQL does call their license GPL.
From section 4:
You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program
except as expressly provided under this License. Any attempt
otherwise to copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is
void, and will automatically terminate your rights under this License. I'll admit I've never *really* read through the GPL to research this case, but it looks like you can't restrict redistribution and still call your license "GPL". Requiring pajamas is fine, you just can't call it GPL anymore.
As far as I can tell, you can sublicense under lesser terms, but not stronger ones.
Isn't this technically a restriction that isn't allowed by the GPL? The GPL makes the distinction of "mere aggregation" as opposed to combination.
Doesn't distributing a completely separate program that only communicates with MySql via JDBC over TCP constitute "mere aggregation"?
From the GPL FAQ:
By contrast, pipes, sockets and command-line arguments are communication mechanisms normally used between two separate programs. So when they are used for communication, the modules normally are separate programs. But if the semantics of the communication are intimate enough, exchanging complex internal data structures, that too could be a basis to consider the two parts as combined into a larger program. It doesn't seem like MySql would be able to restrict distribution in the case.
I didn't think you could sell GPL software, only support. I thought with GPL it also had to be free as in beer. Am I wrong? Yep, your wrong. It's a common misunderstanding though. You can charge 14 billionty dollars for GPL'ed software, you just have to be able to provide the source code for said software for a nominal fee.
Desktop version of SUSE Enterprise Linux 10 will cost you $50/year (or $125/3yr), while the server version will wring out $350/1yr or $873/3yr. RH is more expensive. SuSe and Redhat enterprise linux are expensive because of the support contracts. There are free-as-in-beer versions of Redhat enterprise that are 1 to 1 the same except for branding and graphics. The software isn't expensive, but you do have to pay for support. Compare against a MSDN subscriber and 24-7 support contract + regular licensing.
The only free (as in beer) distribution today that gets close (but still not quite there yet in polish) is Ubuntu, but how many users have heard of Ubuntu vs Novell and RedHat? True, but I do see comparisons Redhat vs. CentOS. For Ubuntu a more apt comparison would be against Fedora.
For example, you don't often hear OSX users complain about the price ($130). Even most Windows users are not complaining about the price. The vast majority of windows users and most Apple users never buy an operating system. They just use what came already installed on their machine. That's why they don't complain. Heck the vast majority of windows users don't even know what an operating system *is*. Which I actually think is good because it makes using computers more approachable to the average person if they don't have to worry about "computer stuff".
What they ARE complaining about is lack of support, buggy software and bad drivers. Makes you think... Agree 100% there;)
I like to use Notepad2 when I'm doing lightweight editing tasks. Line numbering (the original reason I switched away from Notepad so many years ago), synatx highlighting, regex, and more.
No, it's not tabbed, but when I want tabs I open up my heavy-hitter editor JEdit. It's fast, it's OSS, it's simple, it's got a clean interface and did I say it was fast?
I have no idea why MS doesn't update their #1 (non-solitare) used utility. Anti-Monopoly measure for 3rd party editors? Maybe. That didn't stop them from putting out MS Defender. Anyway, are there any articles outlining the new/improved utilities for Vista?
Not too long ago I was thinking about going back to school and getting a Comp Sci degree, since that was what I was basically doing anyways. And found out my university had changed their core programming language from C to Java. I bailed.
Computer Science doesn't teach you how to program. CS teaches you how to think like a computer scientist. The core language taught is immaterial. For example: Big O notation is the same in C or in Java. Data structures don't conceptually vary. Doubly linked lists are doubly linked lists. You would fault the CS program for abstracting away from implementation (i.e. a higher level language)? Getting a CS degree will make you a better programmer no matter what language it uses
Disclamer: I majored in Computer Engineering and hand optimized token ring networks and constructed CPUs in VHDL on FPGAs before I learned Swing. Now I am a Java programmer. College teaches you *how* to learn, not what. University!=trade school.
Come on now, you spelling/grammer pedant trolls add nothing to the conversations and your self-righteous, intellectually masturbatory corrections only take up screen real-estate.
If you like the fact that you have JavaScript (also known as ECMAscript) be vastly and widely supported, then thank the ECMA.
They are not some johnny-come-lately standards group.
Also, good standards take time to flush out, even if they are in wide usage. Take a look at how long the W3C has taken with the various XML standards. Those standards documents with all their flowery normative language take *forever* to draft. 18 Months is not a very long time when talking standards.
He told me that he didn't really believe in God either, but that he occasionally played both sides of the fence in case God was really this angry spiteful uberbeing.
Erm... what the heck are you talking about when you say "half-mutated"? You obviously don't know what the heck you are talking about. First off, all species are illusionary, there is no "perfect specimen", there is only the rainbow of closely related organisms. If there are sufficiently closely related, most of the time they are considered the same species. The problem is defining "sufficiently related".
If you mean "half-mutated" in by two specimens of the same species that have aquired sufficiently different physical traits, then look no further than Darwin. Read the origin of species for examples of "half-mutated" species: Darwin's finches.
Face it, Evolution and natural selection have been emirically tested for well over a hundred years. ID on the other hand, which is essentially Creationism repackaged, has gained almost non-existant support from the scientific community, and owes it origins to the Supreme Court striking down Creationism. ID in the science classroom, and given the same weight as evolution? If the fight were merit based alone, this arugment would have been over long ago. Why is it, then, that it is still around?
I wouldn't catagorize it as DRM. Most streaming content is free-as-in-beer e.g. "internet radio", that the user has little to no rights in using.
It seeks to limit the users ability to listen to the music at the time and place of their choosing.
Again, most time it's not their music to have fair use rights in the first place. It should, however, be *legal* to "time-shift" streams, in effect downloading them for later and repeated use. But unless you are paying for it, it ain't DRM, and you have no right to the music anyway.
You can do most administration tasks though python with WMI. Some stuff may not be fully supported, but a search on
python wmi
yields a number of hits showing that a lot of people are doing this.
In the past I've just done WMI stuff in VB script but I'm a programmer not a sysadmin. If I were I'd prolly base my WMI scripts on python.
There are multiple things wrong about your argument.
First-off: Straw-man argument buddy. Where did I say that they should rebuild? I mearly said that a study of the effect of what a direct hit hurricane would likely yeild more useful information than, "would flood the city, the pumps would fail, and you'd have the world's biggest swimming pool with underwater bars".
Second off, the study didn't cost 71 million dollars, that was the amount the budget was cut.
Thirdly, the If-you-want-to-build-"Fine, but don't ask me to spend billions of dollars to rebuild the beach for you" argument is naive. New Orleans produces a lot of tax revenue. I'd bet (without statistics of course) that New Orleans has generated far more tax revenue since the last bad hurricane then will be needed to be given back to rebuild. Not to mention the benefit to the economy during that time. Or the costs need to relocate.
I agree that in areas where the tax-income to disaster cost is grossly disproportionate, then simply don't provide funding anymore. Like your beach house example. But to forsake New Orleans now just because it is in a high risk zone is quite a simplistic and ignorant reactionary stance.
Ok smartass... where do you put pumps where they would be most effective? Is damage directly and linearly based upon altitude? Which sections of the city, down to the street and block level would get hit the hardest? How do you distribute emergency responce based on the which sections get hit, and who is likely to still be there riding out 'canes and what critical assests are in those regions? Depending on likely damage, in which order and at what locations do you restore utilities?
How high would levys and other water blocking measures have to be raised considering storms of varying strength approaching the city from various directions? By what amount are current pumps insufficient. Under which cicumstances and locations will emerygency personel not be able to do their jobs and how will that effect emergency management in surrounding areas?
Try explaining to a customer why his existing (expensive) HD capable monitor will not play files at it's highest quality. He already watches some stuff at that resolution. Why is it that he now can not?
When you are getting less quality with DRM than with current systems, the end consumer will notice. Maybe not everybody, but I know enough AV geeks who are not "tech/computer/slashdot" geeks who would go nuts if they had to upgrade their perfectly capable equipment just because producers want to treat them like thieves.
If this does really happen end users (a la joe sixpack, etc) *will* give a damn.
"you, sir would have been modded down by yours truly for lack of common sense had I not already thrown myself into the fray"
There is no -1 Wrong, or -1 No common sense, because making such judgements in extremely subjective. People don't need to be modded down for being wrong or naive, they need to be *replied* to to correct them. Your post, however, borders on flaimbait/troll.
"It's not in any way normal or desirable that people who develop or distribute parts of the GNU/Linux system be disallowed to use the name Linux when talking about their own work"
Erm. Yes, it is perfectly normal. GPL protects usage and distrubtion, but the *name* Linux is suppose to mean something and thusly has to be controlled. And defending trademarks is not cheap.
"there will be no more Linux in my country...People will simply stop speaking/writing the name, for fear of being docked a month's pay."
As others have pointed out, you clearly have no idea of what having a trademark and violating trademarks mean.
That's true, but then you assuming the ultimate target is the machine running the virus. If you mess with one machine, it's only one machine. If you manage to infect 100k machines, well it's big, but only 100k. By having the propagation be the #1 priority with little else then you effect everybody on the network because of the propagation traffic.
These days virus writers target the entire internet.
It takes 3 days to travel across Texas, alone. THREE FREAKING DAYS.
Just so people don't get the wrong idea of Texas, I'll chime in with the others who have corrected you here. I've recently drove from Pittsburgh to San Diego and three days in we were past Albuquerque. That was doing the speed limit and 12, at most, hours a day on the road.
Remember at in the open spaces of the mid-west into the west, most places are 75mph speed limit. I think with stops and meals we still averaged 60mph for the whole trip. At twelve hours per day, that's 720 miles.
Not that Texas isn't big but you can drive pretty much anywhere to anywhere there in under 24 hours, much less three days.
I think everybody should drive across the country at least once. It really gives you a feeling of how big the US is. It's also a fricking awesome time.
I hate to reply to myself but I thought I'd conceed that the bombs were definately not *good* things and the justification behind their use is not clear. Wikipedia has a great write up of the argument pro and con at
here and some more background on the end of the war
here.
You apparently don't know much about the surrender of Japan. Even after the bombs there was a *lot* of the opposition by the military against the surrender even to the point of having the Emperor under de facto house arrest. The surrender recording was done clandestine, and was hidden when the military showed up searching for it.
So yes, there was opposition against surrender, in the form of an attemped coup even after Nagasaki. It is certainly *not* clear that they would have surrendered if they would have dropped it over the ocean, or stoped after Hiroshima. To think otherwise is naive and ignorant of Japanese will power at the time.
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As far as I can tell, you can sublicense under lesser terms, but not stronger ones.
Doesn't distributing a completely separate program that only communicates with MySql via JDBC over TCP constitute "mere aggregation"?
From the GPL FAQ: By contrast, pipes, sockets and command-line arguments are communication mechanisms normally used between two separate programs. So when they are used for communication, the modules normally are separate programs. But if the semantics of the communication are intimate enough, exchanging complex internal data structures, that too could be a basis to consider the two parts as combined into a larger program. It doesn't seem like MySql would be able to restrict distribution in the case.
I like to use Notepad2 when I'm doing lightweight editing tasks. Line numbering (the original reason I switched away from Notepad so many years ago), synatx highlighting, regex, and more.
No, it's not tabbed, but when I want tabs I open up my heavy-hitter editor JEdit. It's fast, it's OSS, it's simple, it's got a clean interface and did I say it was fast?
I have no idea why MS doesn't update their #1 (non-solitare) used utility. Anti-Monopoly measure for 3rd party editors? Maybe. That didn't stop them from putting out MS Defender. Anyway, are there any articles outlining the new/improved utilities for Vista?
Not too long ago I was thinking about going back to school and getting a Comp Sci degree, since that was what I was basically doing anyways. And found out my university had changed their core programming language from C to Java. I bailed.
Computer Science doesn't teach you how to program. CS teaches you how to think like a computer scientist. The core language taught is immaterial. For example: Big O notation is the same in C or in Java. Data structures don't conceptually vary. Doubly linked lists are doubly linked lists. You would fault the CS program for abstracting away from implementation (i.e. a higher level language)? Getting a CS degree will make you a better programmer no matter what language it uses
Disclamer: I majored in Computer Engineering and hand optimized token ring networks and constructed CPUs in VHDL on FPGAs before I learned Swing. Now I am a Java programmer. College teaches you *how* to learn, not what. University!=trade school.
I was trying to come up with some other names for their MacBook. I like Lapintosh.
Which would compete with the market leader Lappy 486?
Looser than what? Don't you mean LOSER PAYS?
...and yes the spelling mistakes are on purpose.
Christ, that's obivously what he meant.
Come on now, you spelling/grammer pedant trolls add nothing to the conversations and your self-righteous, intellectually masturbatory corrections only take up screen real-estate.
I can't believe you made me put ear buds in my nose.
I just crossed from office-geek into "don't stare and walk away slowly" dude.
Ah hell, maybe I'll get me some crazy eyes and complete the package.
Thanks!
...with a speed superior to 24.000 km/h cannot enter the terrestrial gravity...
Boy, you just fell off the wrong tree and hit every branch on the way down.
If you like the fact that you have JavaScript (also known as ECMAscript) be vastly and widely supported, then thank the ECMA.
They are not some johnny-come-lately standards group.
Also, good standards take time to flush out, even if they are in wide usage. Take a look at how long the W3C has taken with the various XML standards. Those standards documents with all their flowery normative language take *forever* to draft. 18 Months is not a very long time when talking standards.
He told me that he didn't really believe in God either, but that he occasionally played both sides of the fence in case God was really this angry spiteful uberbeing.
Sounds a bit like Pascal's Wager
Erm... what the heck are you talking about when you say "half-mutated"? You obviously don't know what the heck you are talking about. First off, all species are illusionary, there is no "perfect specimen", there is only the rainbow of closely related organisms. If there are sufficiently closely related, most of the time they are considered the same species. The problem is defining "sufficiently related".
If you mean "half-mutated" in by two specimens of the same species that have aquired sufficiently different physical traits, then look no further than Darwin. Read the origin of species for examples of "half-mutated" species: Darwin's finches.
Face it, Evolution and natural selection have been emirically tested for well over a hundred years. ID on the other hand, which is essentially Creationism repackaged, has gained almost non-existant support from the scientific community, and owes it origins to the Supreme Court striking down Creationism. ID in the science classroom, and given the same weight as evolution? If the fight were merit based alone, this arugment would have been over long ago. Why is it, then, that it is still around?
I wouldn't catagorize it as DRM. Most streaming content is free-as-in-beer e.g. "internet radio", that the user has little to no rights in using.
It seeks to limit the users ability to listen to the music at the time and place of their choosing.
Again, most time it's not their music to have fair use rights in the first place. It should, however, be *legal* to "time-shift" streams, in effect downloading them for later and repeated use. But unless you are paying for it, it ain't DRM, and you have no right to the music anyway.
"Never ascribe to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity."
"Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malace." - paraphrased from a Slashdotter with apologies to Arthur C. Clark.
Just goes to show ya, the old koan is finally coming true.
Given enough time and money, eventually Microsoft will re-invent Unix
You can do most administration tasks though python with WMI. Some stuff may not be fully supported, but a search on python wmi yields a number of hits showing that a lot of people are doing this.
In the past I've just done WMI stuff in VB script but I'm a programmer not a sysadmin. If I were I'd prolly base my WMI scripts on python.
There are multiple things wrong about your argument.
First-off: Straw-man argument buddy. Where did I say that they should rebuild? I mearly said that a study of the effect of what a direct hit hurricane would likely yeild more useful information than, "would flood the city, the pumps would fail, and you'd have the world's biggest swimming pool with underwater bars".
Second off, the study didn't cost 71 million dollars, that was the amount the budget was cut.
Thirdly, the If-you-want-to-build-"Fine, but don't ask me to spend billions of dollars to rebuild the beach for you" argument is naive. New Orleans produces a lot of tax revenue. I'd bet (without statistics of course) that New Orleans has generated far more tax revenue since the last bad hurricane then will be needed to be given back to rebuild. Not to mention the benefit to the economy during that time. Or the costs need to relocate.
I agree that in areas where the tax-income to disaster cost is grossly disproportionate, then simply don't provide funding anymore. Like your beach house example. But to forsake New Orleans now just because it is in a high risk zone is quite a simplistic and ignorant reactionary stance.
In other words... still no 7 mil for you.
Ok smartass... where do you put pumps where they would be most effective? Is damage directly and linearly based upon altitude? Which sections of the city, down to the street and block level would get hit the hardest? How do you distribute emergency responce based on the which sections get hit, and who is likely to still be there riding out 'canes and what critical assests are in those regions? Depending on likely damage, in which order and at what locations do you restore utilities?
How high would levys and other water blocking measures have to be raised considering storms of varying strength approaching the city from various directions? By what amount are current pumps insufficient. Under which cicumstances and locations will emerygency personel not be able to do their jobs and how will that effect emergency management in surrounding areas?
Not all studies are naive and useless.
Try explaining to a customer why his existing (expensive) HD capable monitor will not play files at it's highest quality. He already watches some stuff at that resolution. Why is it that he now can not?
When you are getting less quality with DRM than with current systems, the end consumer will notice. Maybe not everybody, but I know enough AV geeks who are not "tech/computer/slashdot" geeks who would go nuts if they had to upgrade their perfectly capable equipment just because producers want to treat them like thieves.
If this does really happen end users (a la joe sixpack, etc) *will* give a damn.
"you, sir would have been modded down by yours truly for lack of common sense had I not already thrown myself into the fray"
There is no -1 Wrong, or -1 No common sense, because making such judgements in extremely subjective. People don't need to be modded down for being wrong or naive, they need to be *replied* to to correct them. Your post, however, borders on flaimbait/troll.
"It's not in any way normal or desirable that people who develop or distribute parts of the GNU/Linux system be disallowed to use the name Linux when talking about their own work"
Erm. Yes, it is perfectly normal. GPL protects usage and distrubtion, but the *name* Linux is suppose to mean something and thusly has to be controlled. And defending trademarks is not cheap.
"there will be no more Linux in my country...People will simply stop speaking/writing the name, for fear of being docked a month's pay."
As others have pointed out, you clearly have no idea of what having a trademark and violating trademarks mean.
That's true, but then you assuming the ultimate target is the machine running the virus. If you mess with one machine, it's only one machine. If you manage to infect 100k machines, well it's big, but only 100k. By having the propagation be the #1 priority with little else then you effect everybody on the network because of the propagation traffic.
These days virus writers target the entire internet.
It takes 3 days to travel across Texas, alone. THREE FREAKING DAYS.
Just so people don't get the wrong idea of Texas, I'll chime in with the others who have corrected you here. I've recently drove from Pittsburgh to San Diego and three days in we were past Albuquerque. That was doing the speed limit and 12, at most, hours a day on the road.
Remember at in the open spaces of the mid-west into the west, most places are 75mph speed limit. I think with stops and meals we still averaged 60mph for the whole trip. At twelve hours per day, that's 720 miles.
Not that Texas isn't big but you can drive pretty much anywhere to anywhere there in under 24 hours, much less three days.
I think everybody should drive across the country at least once. It really gives you a feeling of how big the US is. It's also a fricking awesome time.
I hate to reply to myself but I thought I'd conceed that the bombs were definately not *good* things and the justification behind their use is not clear. Wikipedia has a great write up of the argument pro and con at here and some more background on the end of the war here.
You apparently don't know much about the surrender of Japan. Even after the bombs there was a *lot* of the opposition by the military against the surrender even to the point of having the Emperor under de facto house arrest. The surrender recording was done clandestine, and was hidden when the military showed up searching for it.
So yes, there was opposition against surrender, in the form of an attemped coup even after Nagasaki. It is certainly *not* clear that they would have surrendered if they would have dropped it over the ocean, or stoped after Hiroshima. To think otherwise is naive and ignorant of Japanese will power at the time.