I agree with you, but there should be a balance between proprietary software and distribution of knowledge. As one of the questions surrounding Compaq's reverse engineering of the IBM BIOS pointed out, if the hardware for the PC market had not opened up we would not be where we are today. What is really ironic is that this is now illegal because of the DMCA.
What often happens with comanies like Microsoft is that they charge people into submission through fees for everything. Their mission is to increase shareholder wealth. This hurts developers who just might be trying to learn a little on the side. I fully acknowledge Microsoft's need to charge for their software. After all software developers aren't cheap! However, I also sincerely appreciate the open source movement and its ability to empower me though open communication with my peers. Knowledge is power and open source lets me have the keys.
I disagree. He is not passing judgement on how cool these people are at all. I think he is merely trying to comment on how there are some "posers" out there who make the whole thing look bad. The media already thinks all Linux (*NIX) users are a bunch of hackers, and clueless little script kiddies like this don't help.
Well as many have mentioned the wireless 802.11 security leaves much to be desired. There was a story on slashdot that ran about a month or two ago on this same subject. In any case, I would think that if you simply ran an encrypted tunnel from end to end around the wireless segments that would be a much better solution than relying on the weak WEP 802.11 standard.
If you are implementing this on a corporate level you should know this. This is your job. Obviously, the problem here is that we have people implementing networks (MIS graduates) that don't want to look at what fundamentally is going on with the technology. They simply hook up the cards, install the windows drivers and move on to their exchange servers. I guess its not their fault really. Companies know their background. Companies should have some hackers working on breaking into their system. Those white hat hackers could easily expose this stuff. I guess thats what security experts are for..:)
No I didn't read the article. Don't have to. The real truth is kids are turning into pussies. Thats right, no PC in this comment. Anyway, they don't want to get into a fight with bullies. They don't event want to jump the bullies, or even outwit them. Hell if you don't want to get into a fight and you are a geek well.. use your geek skillz. Make some weak fscking acid, or perhaps a strong smelling stink spray, make something that will scare your bully. There are many ways to strike back besides gun violence. But do not under any circumstances go on a cowardly rampage. These Columbine kids, and their high school copy cats are nothing but cowards who prey on *UNARMED* enemies. If that isn't cowardly I don't know what is. So quit feeling sorry for these sorry bastards, or trying to understand where they come from because they are all nothing but a bunch of sorry wusses who can't use creative retaliation, who can't fight someone with their minds, who conceat to defeat with their cowardly ways. There is no valor in a school shooting!
Hell yes.. the only way people are going to gain ground on an open standards IM is to make it better, more convenient, etc.. than any other IM. This can be done. Relying on proprietary transports is not a long term answer.
DAMMIT.. where are my mod points when I need them. Paging Taco.. gimme some moderator points:)
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The top post for our little thread stated that 802.11 is using 2.4GHz spectrum and therefore is illegal in France (I don't know status of this). I was merely trying to point out that by this same logic that Bluetooth would be illegal as well because it also operates on 2.4GHz spectrum. I guess I should have been more verbose (-vv) in my previous post:)
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What frequency is 802.11? 2.4GHz
What frequency is bluetoooth? 2.4GHz
I agree. The problem is that without censorware kids have access to what these sick online bastards spew out. I am a college student, but when I have kids of my own I don't wan't my kid to have access to pictures of saran wrapped grandma felching out of dead grampa's corpse. That's very traumatic for a young child. There are some real sick fsckers on the Internet and its nice to *try* and keep some of it away from kids on a house hold level (not goverment).
I do not think kids should be accidentally exposed to this crap. When I was a kid I was unsupervised a great deal and went to the woods alot, but I didn't have sexual predators trying to sweet talk my eight year old ass via the Internet either. Kids are not equipped to deal with smooth talking predators. You wouldn't leave your kids unattended in a bad area of town, and with the many bad areas of the Internet I can see where censorware does help. Long live censorware and screw Internet Psychos!
Thats not necessarily true. If you have the same core and the same bin of processor, but there is still a demand for the proc in a lower speed bin. Then perfectly good higher bin procs are down binned to fill the demand of the lower bin.. so MTBF is the same when you clock it up again. Of course, this isn't always true, but my overclocked Celeron 300A now at 450 seems to be doing just fine after two years.
Well if I get e-mail with an opt-out then I *might* do business with a company. However, if its just plain spam I won't do business with the company. As a matter of fact I don't even allow myself to read the punchline... I'm voting with my $.. everyone else should too.. its the only way.
I agree, and I would like to add another instance. A few years back when people were semi-peacefully protesting the WTO in Seattle the mainstream press glossed over the whole damn thing. The newspapers and mainstream online news sites like ABCNews.com and CNN.com both made it seem like everyone there was a bunch of hoodlums and that they needed to be dispersed. What happened to freedom of assembly? In any case, there were some very interesting message boards up with people who were at the Anti-WTO protests posting to them. I got a first hand viewpoint from many different angles about what was going on. Of couse, people could have been lying and I'm sure some were, but for the most part I tend to believe they were not. In any case, I learned how the media simply ignored what was happening and looked at the event through their cookie cutter corporatized goggles. So once again... thank you Internet:)
Well I know every year or so there is an obfusticated perl contest. Man, these guys would give some serious competition! In any case the code looks amazing. Even though I know Perl, I can definitely say this guy pushed the limits! It would definitely take some sit down time to dissect it, but that isn't the point. Anyway, kudos for getting it done in 7-lines:)
I have to admit Delldows has a certain ring to it.. I can see a girlfriend asking for some Delldows software for Valentine's;)
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Re:The problem is that Processors are only the sta
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You don't need a whole system to develop hardware. I have an Altera FPGA sitting right here which I can play with. I have personally made a 5-bit processor with addition, division, multiplication, blah, blah.. on board. No there is no OS which supports my design. Thats not what it is for. The FPGA has inputs and outputs. I can do the rest.
Think about it. Instead of using a crate ICs consisting of AND gates, NOR gates, etc.. to implement digital logic just put them in a nice FPGA and you're done. In addition, I have even seen some FPGAs which mount on breadboards.
I am a student at Texas A&M University and we are going a Senior Design Project with an FPGA. It would be nice to see an open core for an SDRAM Controller or any other chip for that matter.
Altera has many designs which you can download as MegaFunctions, but you can't see how they work. You just incorporate them into your design by feeding in inputs into the black box and reading outputs.
I can't see why people would spend lots of time and money into developing open cores though unless they wanted quicker adoption by downstream developers. Perhaps a reference core which other people could tweek. It would be nice to see GPL of some sort make sure the cores stay open... cuz if it doesn't stay open then whats the point? You could just be doing the fun grunt work for some other putz who will probably come along and market your work without giving you credit.
Anyway, you guys can also check out opencores.org for more info.
What the hell there are servers that are sitting idle. Why are these machines not crunching RC5? All my machines do.. so do the machines at work.. servers included.. hehe
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I was wondering the same thing. Hopefully, this will come up in metamoderation.. cuz funny is not what the comment was.
OK, I can understand you think I'm anti-MS given the forum, but I'm not. I have programmed for Handspring's Visor and I liked it. Very simple. However, I can't say I have programmed for WinCE or Pocket PC systems, but I have used them. They are kinda cool, but when compared to the price, stability, and ease of use of a lower end Palm I prefer those. Yes, I'm biased but not because its MS that I hate. I'm biased because the batteries last a long time in the Palm, the OS doesn't crash as much for me, the applications are a cinch to load and its just what I want in a PDA. These are just my opinions though. Of course, other people have other needs.. they need Excel on their PDA.. and it is kinda cool to be walking around with a very small PDA that is more powerful than my computer I bought a few years back.. but I have no use for that in a PDA.. a laptop yes.. PDA no.. thats just me though.. Also, I've never used CP/M and Quake on a PDA is kinda cool, brings back old school memories of playing Quake at 320x240 on a 486 laptop.. shit this PDA is faster.. hard to believe..
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I agree with you, but there should be a balance between proprietary software and distribution of knowledge. As one of the questions surrounding Compaq's reverse engineering of the IBM BIOS pointed out, if the hardware for the PC market had not opened up we would not be where we are today. What is really ironic is that this is now illegal because of the DMCA.
What often happens with comanies like Microsoft is that they charge people into submission through fees for everything. Their mission is to increase shareholder wealth. This hurts developers who just might be trying to learn a little on the side. I fully acknowledge Microsoft's need to charge for their software. After all software developers aren't cheap! However, I also sincerely appreciate the open source movement and its ability to empower me though open communication with my peers. Knowledge is power and open source lets me have the keys.
JOhn
I disagree. He is not passing judgement on how cool these people are at all. I think he is merely trying to comment on how there are some "posers" out there who make the whole thing look bad. The media already thinks all Linux (*NIX) users are a bunch of hackers, and clueless little script kiddies like this don't help.
JOhn
hehe.. I reply to you with headphones on.. techno works wonders for me... :)
JOhn
Well as many have mentioned the wireless 802.11 security leaves much to be desired. There was a story on slashdot that ran about a month or two ago on this same subject. In any case, I would think that if you simply ran an encrypted tunnel from end to end around the wireless segments that would be a much better solution than relying on the weak WEP 802.11 standard.
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If you are implementing this on a corporate level you should know this. This is your job. Obviously, the problem here is that we have people implementing networks (MIS graduates) that don't want to look at what fundamentally is going on with the technology. They simply hook up the cards, install the windows drivers and move on to their exchange servers. I guess its not their fault really. Companies know their background. Companies should have some hackers working on breaking into their system. Those white hat hackers could easily expose this stuff. I guess thats what security experts are for..
JOhn
True, death is death. But when you commit suicide you *choose* to take your own life. When you kill someone else they do not get that choice.
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No I didn't read the article. Don't have to. The real truth is kids are turning into pussies. Thats right, no PC in this comment. Anyway, they don't want to get into a fight with bullies. They don't event want to jump the bullies, or even outwit them. Hell if you don't want to get into a fight and you are a geek well.. use your geek skillz. Make some weak fscking acid, or perhaps a strong smelling stink spray, make something that will scare your bully. There are many ways to strike back besides gun violence. But do not under any circumstances go on a cowardly rampage. These Columbine kids, and their high school copy cats are nothing but cowards who prey on *UNARMED* enemies. If that isn't cowardly I don't know what is. So quit feeling sorry for these sorry bastards, or trying to understand where they come from because they are all nothing but a bunch of sorry wusses who can't use creative retaliation, who can't fight someone with their minds, who conceat to defeat with their cowardly ways. There is no valor in a school shooting!
JOhn
Hell yes.. the only way people are going to gain ground on an open standards IM is to make it better, more convenient, etc.. than any other IM. This can be done. Relying on proprietary transports is not a long term answer.
JOhn
I think that the video, proc, etc.. are behind the screen area and the keyboard, mouse, etc.. are wireless.. but thats just my intuition.
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DAMMIT.. where are my mod points when I need them. Paging Taco.. gimme some moderator points :)
JOhn.
The top post for our little thread stated that 802.11 is using 2.4GHz spectrum and therefore is illegal in France (I don't know status of this). I was merely trying to point out that by this same logic that Bluetooth would be illegal as well because it also operates on 2.4GHz spectrum. I guess I should have been more verbose (-vv) in my previous post :)
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What frequency is 802.11? 2.4GHz
What frequency is bluetoooth? 2.4GHz
hmm... enough said...
JOhn
I agree. The problem is that without censorware kids have access to what these sick online bastards spew out. I am a college student, but when I have kids of my own I don't wan't my kid to have access to pictures of saran wrapped grandma felching out of dead grampa's corpse. That's very traumatic for a young child. There are some real sick fsckers on the Internet and its nice to *try* and keep some of it away from kids on a house hold level (not goverment).
I do not think kids should be accidentally exposed to this crap. When I was a kid I was unsupervised a great deal and went to the woods alot, but I didn't have sexual predators trying to sweet talk my eight year old ass via the Internet either. Kids are not equipped to deal with smooth talking predators. You wouldn't leave your kids unattended in a bad area of town, and with the many bad areas of the Internet I can see where censorware does help. Long live censorware and screw Internet Psychos!
JOhn
Thats not necessarily true. If you have the same core and the same bin of processor, but there is still a demand for the proc in a lower speed bin. Then perfectly good higher bin procs are down binned to fill the demand of the lower bin.. so MTBF is the same when you clock it up again. Of course, this isn't always true, but my overclocked Celeron 300A now at 450 seems to be doing just fine after two years.
JOhn
Or sign him up on a few pron lists ;)
JOhn
Well if I get e-mail with an opt-out then I *might* do business with a company. However, if its just plain spam I won't do business with the company. As a matter of fact I don't even allow myself to read the punchline... I'm voting with my $.. everyone else should too.. its the only way.
JOhn
I agree, and I would like to add another instance. A few years back when people were semi-peacefully protesting the WTO in Seattle the mainstream press glossed over the whole damn thing. The newspapers and mainstream online news sites like ABCNews.com and CNN.com both made it seem like everyone there was a bunch of hoodlums and that they needed to be dispersed. What happened to freedom of assembly? In any case, there were some very interesting message boards up with people who were at the Anti-WTO protests posting to them. I got a first hand viewpoint from many different angles about what was going on. Of couse, people could have been lying and I'm sure some were, but for the most part I tend to believe they were not. In any case, I learned how the media simply ignored what was happening and looked at the event through their cookie cutter corporatized goggles. So once again... thank you Internet :)
JOhn
You can get a netscape e-mail for free.... BTW, if you see anyone with a msn.com e-mail don't automagically assume they work for microsoft ;)
JOhn
Well I know every year or so there is an obfusticated perl contest. Man, these guys would give some serious competition! In any case the code looks amazing. Even though I know Perl, I can definitely say this guy pushed the limits! It would definitely take some sit down time to dissect it, but that isn't the point. Anyway, kudos for getting it done in 7-lines :)
JOhn
I have to admit Delldows has a certain ring to it.. I can see a girlfriend asking for some Delldows software for Valentine's ;)
JOhn
You don't need a whole system to develop hardware. I have an Altera FPGA sitting right here which I can play with. I have personally made a 5-bit processor with addition, division, multiplication, blah, blah.. on board. No there is no OS which supports my design. Thats not what it is for. The FPGA has inputs and outputs. I can do the rest.
Think about it. Instead of using a crate ICs consisting of AND gates, NOR gates, etc.. to implement digital logic just put them in a nice FPGA and you're done. In addition, I have even seen some FPGAs which mount on breadboards.
JOhn
I am a student at Texas A&M University and we are doing a Senior Design Project with an FPGA
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doh.. how the hell did I hit a 'g' instead of a 'd'? Thats what I get for rushing.. oh well.. no Aggie jokes plz
JOhn
I am a student at Texas A&M University and we are going a Senior Design Project with an FPGA. It would be nice to see an open core for an SDRAM Controller or any other chip for that matter.
Altera has many designs which you can download as MegaFunctions, but you can't see how they work. You just incorporate them into your design by feeding in inputs into the black box and reading outputs.
I can't see why people would spend lots of time and money into developing open cores though unless they wanted quicker adoption by downstream developers. Perhaps a reference core which other people could tweek. It would be nice to see GPL of some sort make sure the cores stay open... cuz if it doesn't stay open then whats the point? You could just be doing the fun grunt work for some other putz who will probably come along and market your work without giving you credit.
Anyway, you guys can also check out opencores.org for more info.
JOhn
What the hell there are servers that are sitting idle. Why are these machines not crunching RC5? All my machines do.. so do the machines at work.. servers included.. hehe
JOhn
I was wondering the same thing. Hopefully, this will come up in metamoderation.. cuz funny is not what the comment was.
JOhn
OK, I can understand you think I'm anti-MS given the forum, but I'm not. I have programmed for Handspring's Visor and I liked it. Very simple. However, I can't say I have programmed for WinCE or Pocket PC systems, but I have used them. They are kinda cool, but when compared to the price, stability, and ease of use of a lower end Palm I prefer those. Yes, I'm biased but not because its MS that I hate. I'm biased because the batteries last a long time in the Palm, the OS doesn't crash as much for me, the applications are a cinch to load and its just what I want in a PDA. These are just my opinions though. Of course, other people have other needs.. they need Excel on their PDA.. and it is kinda cool to be walking around with a very small PDA that is more powerful than my computer I bought a few years back.. but I have no use for that in a PDA.. a laptop yes.. PDA no.. thats just me though.. Also, I've never used CP/M and Quake on a PDA is kinda cool, brings back old school memories of playing Quake at 320x240 on a 486 laptop.. shit this PDA is faster.. hard to believe..
JOhn