a major difference between the autotuner and a vocoder is also the interesting textures that can be created with a vocoder...... a good example of this is just about any kraftwerk song... or the one mentioned in the root thread, squarepusher's "my red hot car"(or whatever its name is)
while an autotuner just takes the key of the song and moves your voice closer to it..... a vocoder warps your voice with something else, normally a synth.
..as well as an occasional producer... i don't see much of a problem with this. why? because it's not particularly different than using a parametric EQ, compression mic, and a quick bit of digital editing (removing the huge and ridiculously loud breathing that some vocalists have).... if you're going to attack this, you should definitely attack compression....
in a lot of ways, this comes down to... "how natural do we want it?"... if you just want it to sound good (or so bad you'd have to try... or just alien), this technology is great. if you're some analog-phile who hates digital recording/editing/anything to do "digital" + "music..." of course you'll hate it. it's just a thing of preference.
and a sidenote: quick uses of pitch correction can be horribly great if you're producing an extremly whiny vocalist... the type who won't do 100 takes just to get the perfect sound;)
just wanted to point out the simple fact that violent reactions to police repression has been happening, albeit mildly off and on, for years.. whether it's the reaction to the cops murdering of the MOVE group in philly, the race riots of the 60's, etc... it's not something new.. it's already happened, and it's going to continue to happen until SOMETHING changes... we can be sure of that.
i have a limited ability with perl, python, am good with html, css, javascript, etc.. and i type 120 words a minute
does anyone realize how horrible all of this really is in high school?
when i first came into my current school, they made me do a typing test.
i hit 122, which was 30 words faster than the "school record..."
in "large group"(imagine an assembly at most high schools, only they mostly just give out credits and awards.. it's a small school)... i got a "typing award" called "lite speed..."
from then on, i was known as the guy who types fast.
THEN, my computer teacher put me in a "special" course she wanted to pilot...
further setting me apart as "the computer guy"
then, i was over heard telling the district's repair guy an idiot (he was. he pulled the motherboard out of the tower in his bare hands, and then proceeded to DROP it onto the floor)
and finally, i have been commisioned to be the school's webmaster (which i accepted because it's easy credit and i can put it on a resume to hopefully avoid mcdonalds or such).
but now that i've been set this far apart.. people are constantly approaching me, asking me all kinds of questions.. some i'm happy to answer... things about linux, mozilla, tips on good books and sites for learning various things, etc...
but then you get the kinds of questions that over-the-phone technicians dread, only... the teenage versions:
"umm... me and my girlfriend were..um...you know.. heh heh.. and we bumped a pepsi onto the keyboard... how do we fix it?"
"yeah, i just downloaded a lot of porn and i think my mother expects something. what should i do?"
"i tried to put one of my old tapes into the slot on my computer, but it wouldn't fit... what's wrong?"(he was trying to put it in the floppy drive... gah!)
but yes... being distingiushed as "the computer guy" is not all that it's cracked up to be. but, i guess it's better than "the pothead."
i use iframes on occasion because they're just a bit helpful at times when doing up an initial version of a site... while i plan on replacing them eventually, iframes do have a place, i think...
there are times where it does do this with music...
there's the obvious moment of the conservative america flocking against "devil rock"
and tipper and hip hop
and then 99% of the people i've played merzbow for
and then there's just good ol' john cage.
overall though, the discussion of "is this art?" is so darned subjective that you don't normally get much out of it... were marcel duchamp's "readymades" art? if you've ever asked that in a group of opinionated people who know what you're talking about, you'll understand what i'm saying.
okay, not that i am guessing you'll pick anything up from this, i just have to say it...
first off... it's not "theft".. it's "copyright violation"... get it bloody right because the basic definitions are astronomically different. "theft" implies the following:
you have object a
i come and take object a
you no longer have object a
with intellectual property, this cannot happen. so "copyright violation" would be the correct term... it's an incredibly important distinction.
second, implying that these laws and such are good for musicians is crap. since the dawn of bloody time just about, music has built off of other music... you hear one piece, you take part of that and work with it... have you ever listened to a song, really dug on it.. and then made something that sounded similar in style/jive/whatever? should you be prosecuted for this? under these laws, if i take a piece of music... say a short little 4 chord guitar riff... and decide that i like it and want to build my own song using it.. i could actually be prosecuted. in the same, if i chose to sample a beat from another musician(not even a whole beat line/structure, just a solo beat)... i could be prosecuted!
furthermore, in all your replies you seem to elevate "musicians" to some "higher class" of people... like only select people can make music... that's bullshit. EVERYONE can make music, and it's even in your fuckin' historic culture to take songs other people have written and play them so other people can hear them... that's how music spread before recordings... should all of the people who played these songs (which was the best method of reproduction in existance at the time) have been prosecuted?
and as far as why should someone make music if they're not being paid.. because they bloody well want too? i don't make my music with the intent on being paid. you look at how music was traditionally done where most participated in it and generally enjoyed it(typically talking pre-modern capitalism).. and it's obvious there's something about music that exists for people that goes a hell of a lot deeper than financial issues.
you know, there's so much more i want to say about music and it's place in society, historically and culturally.. and about it's importance and everything else... but i don't have the time... and i don't think you would understand anyway... music isn't capitalism, dude. in the world of music, capitalism just makes it stagnate...
while i am all for sending people to alternatives as i rather dislike opera....
looking at my dictionary, it says that to "steal," you have to deprive someone of something they would have otherwise. this would imply two possible scenario's in my mind:
1)like stealing a a frozen pizza from a supermarket, thus denying a person who might get that frozen pizza a little later their right to that pizza and the supermarket of their money for that pizza... money they would've gotten from the person that would've come along a little later. 2)a granny has a walker. you steal the walker while she's in bed... thus, she doesn't have the walker.
if the person is like me, they wouldn't buy opera in the first place... thus opera wouldn't end up recieving any funds in the first place from me. if i didn't download the free version and get rid of the ads... i'd just download an alternative.
thus, getting rid of the ads is not STEALING. while it may be questionable behaviour, it is not theft.
then again, the person seemed rather happy with opera. eh?
the downside to this idea is then there are musicians like me who make music that literally cannot be reproduced live, unless you just play a rough sounding recording and look like you're actually doing something.
then again, i'm not out to make money... and neither are most people who make music like mine that i've ran into... although, being able to have my own studio would be the greatest thing ever.
hmm...
on second thought...my music HAS been used in avant-guarde performance art performed live, but that is a different thing entirely from a live show to me.
i would like to inform the OSS community that all of these "l" names must stop!
my nephew, who has aspergers... has great trouble pronouncing l's, but no trouble pronouncing any other letter. why "lindows" when it could be.. mindows! or dindows! maybe even findows? this is a great injustice towards all people who have trouble pronouncing that inherently evil letter! down with the l sound in the OSS community!
i think i'm considerably younger than most people on here, as i was a maggot when we got that machine. being that age, i just couldn't appreciatte it at all.
my judgements on it come from a couple years ago when i dusted off that old machine and used it again... part of the problem with wordstar on the hyndai is that the hyndai likes to randomly reset itself more often than a 5 year old PC with windows 98 on it (and this isn't a thing caused by age, i remember my older brother cursing every 10 minutes back in "the computer room" about it resetting)...
you ARE correct in that it did start good things, however i think at that point it wasn't enough to call it very 'good' quite yet...
did anyone ever hyndai or whatever computers? they were only released as an experiment to see how well they worked.. they were cheap as heck and they planned on giving them to school. they could only handle this bad wordprocessing program, "wordstar"
windows user interface has ALWAYS been prettier than that. even if it always has been pretty damned ugly.
in the case of reagan, you'd have to stretch to really hit 'genocide'... and these stretches would be things like saying that it was a genocide, or attempted one against the poor due to his policies... or more specifically to the poor of other countries because of his leniancy towards corporate malice...
more than likely, they were refering to the CIA backed operations that existed during his time... iran contra, a few central american ones, etc..
kissinger, now THERE is a war criminal though:
his involvement in vietnam, rhodesia, cambodia, chile.. it's late and i'm going off the top of my head, so i'm quite sure i'm missing some... but kissinger, if tried in a world court that wasn't controlled by US interests.. would most certainly be convicted of war crimes..
now, bush's father.. if i remember correct, he was CIA director during ronnie's time... which would've put him as the CIA director during iran contra and all of that...
rumsfield.. thinking..hm.. can't remember anything on him... i think he's definitely more clean than the others as far as war crimes would go.
hmm, and dick.. his big past issues i believe are corporate fraud type issues, if i remember right... some kind of 'corporate scandal' type scenario, anyway.
as far as current-shrub and cheney, i think their big issues is corporate stuff, and possibly things relating to not preventing s11... while it still is for the most part just another conspiracy theory, there's some interesting facts surrounding it that is making some people wonder.. and well, if they let it happen... then they are damn well guilty of something.
sorry for any random incoherences, i need to sleep.. but due to schedules, i can't. if i went to bed, i wouldn't wake up in time:)
1.get a legion of typing monkeys to make up reasons for why IBM has f***ed you over that does NOT include producing things on a higher quality. 2.threaten legal action and hope that they don't push you to court 3.make $$$ (alternative ending: be the laughing stock of geeks everywhere)
this all depends on your own mind. COBOL isn't that hard of a language (at least it wasn't for me).... i learned it in my spare time from my father, actuall... and at the time, i was also self-teaching myself XML from a few books.
i can't say too much to help you though, because most of my tips would only help in a non-institutionalized learning atmosphere. tests and grades ruin education:\
my set up is slightly complicated, but i've found it works wonders:
i use "aldo's pianito and microstudio" or whatever(www.aldostools.com or something similar) for basic sequencing... windows recorder because my soundcard is etenerally screwed by windows, i think in that it will only record using this recorder... audacity to cut and paste all the sound segments together in a 'logical' fashion(sometimes not so logical)... and soundprobe to touch things up(add various effects, reduce the hiss, etc)
c'mon slashdot crowd, aren't we intelligent enough to realize that sin is an outdated thought process?
the whole idealogy of "innocence" is something that needs to be forgotten with the majority of what is called christianity now.... christianity was a social movement which was good for when it started... it was something challenging the status quo... true, it still is with the progressive jesuits in central and south america... but i think generally.. as a society we should be able to push on past these "morals"...
basic reason why the christian thoughts of innocence should be abolished:
innocence was created and used by the christians to try and keep one from doing sin in the same way a lot of more modern revolutionary groups will claim something is "counterrevolutionary"... sin was designed in such a way so that if you did something that was not permitted by the church.. then you were doing something 'wrong' and should feel 'guilty.' what happens when people are limited from things with guilt trips? they do them anyway, AND feel guilty. the first showing that guilt trips such as "innocence" and "sin" are ineffective, the second showing that they are utterly unwanted(at least, IMO... to any person with any sort of sense)...
i doubt tresco means half of what he said... he's saying it to look good... because he is going to be monitered more, and if the monitering shows him as regretful, then poof.. parole!
to confront the thought that stealing/copying(i'm not going to confront the argument between those two words really.. although i agree it is the second of the two) from adobe/microsoft/whatever is wrong:
in the case of microsoft, they have continually used tactics that are unhealthy to the general community of people who use computers.. and why? for little green pieces of paper. microsoft has probably set computers back more than i can imagine with their marketing techniques... so i completely support any copying of their software rather than giving them more of those green pieces of paper.
in the case of products from places like adobe who i don't know as much as i probably should about... i have to view them from my view... which is that of a young-ish kid/adult/creature(depends on what numbers you designate as "kid" or "adult") who has grown up at poverty level.. jumping under and a little above constantly his whole life... who got his computer only because he was lucky enough to have a friend who had a lot more money than he needed and was surprisingly generous... i don't mean to sound like i'm giving a sob story, but sometimes i can't afford food... so yeah, i've stolen from supermarkets that would rather have me starve than give up a little food so i can eat. so i don't have money to buy these 700+ dollar software packages... even though i would like to use some of them! i have used photoshop before, and it's not that great in my opinion... i actually prefer gimp... but i know there are programs out there i would love to just try and see what i can do with... not to make money, but to just satisfy my curiosity and to produce things that i can be proud of.
i am generally against intellectual property... saying this, i must also say i am generally for software developers eating. but i feel as a society we must go through a full cultural revolution before we kill ourselves... intellectual property is ridiculous on the aspect that.. how can you own a sound? some text? a little bit of code? a graphic? intellectual property was a ridiculous, and completely unproductive idea... when one person 'owns' it, and you can't take it and alter it to make it better... things are so much more stagnant than they should be. this is why i support the open source community, but i think it needs to go further than this. very much so....
and since this point has been nagging my mind since starting this reply.. i might as well voice it.. i would not participate in the warez community as it is right now... one simple reason: it is incredibly easy to catch those involved... and i don't feel like spending any part of my life even more confined than i am... the warez community needs to work on making things untouchable, or as close as it can get to this... from there the warez community needs to get itself some positive attention and actually gain some beliefs that stimulate their warez trading.. rather than this disconnected amount of people with all differing reasons going to ftp's... from there the warez community could do more for the all people who use computers than linux has, i think... because if we could keep ahead of the feds, we could really force companies into changing themselves...
oh yeah, all of you dang/. users need to do some reading on the spokane, washington free speech fight... they can't jail all of us if we just organize!
although this act highly annoys me, and scares me as i don't want to even further destroy all progress this nation has made since the sixties... i just realized that just the day after this act was put into place... i got these books from the library:
can't remember who the author(s) were/was..."ecodefence"
mikhail bakunin's "god and the state"
abbie hoffman's "steal this book"
two books on explosives, one specifically on making homemade explosives...
and a pamphlet of stuff on local government buildings' architecture.
haha.... got the ecodefence one because my friend wanted me to read it... "god and the state" because i never finished it.. "steal this book" for a few of the specific "recipes"(not the bomb/molotov ones, mind you...)... the two on explosives as explosives are just an interest of mine(no interest in blowing off a limb though, so i don't plan on making any)... and the architectural one because i was interested in how much area of a few local gov buildings you weren't allowed in, and how possible it would be to sneak into them just to figure out what's there.
ugh. this sucks for us who have huge amounts of videos..haha... i like vhs, even if it's "out of date".... but, see.. i live in two nephews... one of them is 6, has the mental intelligence of a 3 year old and has been diagnosed with a bunch of shit(bipolar disorder, and some retardation-causing one are the big ones)... videos can take more wear and tear than cd's can in my experience.... and the other nephew is a spoiled little 9 year old.. who whenever i say to go away (because i'm trying to concentrate on something).. or just 'ignore' him while meditating... he decides he wants to break my stuff, or break something else and blame me... and he gets away with it.... cd's are a larger target for him as time has shown... i've only had two video's busted ("natural born killers" and "full metal jacket"..ugh! my favorites!).... yet over 30 cd's....
so yeah.. tapes are nice for the two more years i have to live in the same house as them... plus, i already have 600 videos....
do any browsers other than IE 6 offer support for SMIL? i've started working with it a little, because of how much easier it is to create web page animation when compared to the likes of javascript... i am rather unknowledgable about browsers, i admit...but so far out of the ones i've tested, IE was the only one that read SMIL correctly.... which irritates me, because mostly i find it isn't that great for other things.
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thank you for posting this for me:P
a major difference between the autotuner and a vocoder is also the interesting textures that can be created with a vocoder...... a good example of this is just about any kraftwerk song... or the one mentioned in the root thread, squarepusher's "my red hot car"(or whatever its name is)
while an autotuner just takes the key of the song and moves your voice closer to it..... a vocoder warps your voice with something else, normally a synth.
..as well as an occasional producer... i don't see much of a problem with this. why? because it's not particularly different than using a parametric EQ, compression mic, and a quick bit of digital editing (removing the huge and ridiculously loud breathing that some vocalists have).... if you're going to attack this, you should definitely attack compression....
in a lot of ways, this comes down to... "how natural do we want it?"... if you just want it to sound good (or so bad you'd have to try... or just alien), this technology is great. if you're some analog-phile who hates digital recording/editing/anything to do "digital" + "music..." of course you'll hate it. it's just a thing of preference.
and a sidenote: quick uses of pitch correction can be horribly great if you're producing an extremly whiny vocalist... the type who won't do 100 takes just to get the perfect sound;)
just wanted to point out the simple fact that violent reactions to police repression has been happening, albeit mildly off and on, for years.. whether it's the reaction to the cops murdering of the MOVE group in philly, the race riots of the 60's, etc... it's not something new.. it's already happened, and it's going to continue to happen until SOMETHING changes... we can be sure of that.
i have a limited ability with perl, python, am good with html, css, javascript, etc.. and i type 120 words a minute
does anyone realize how horrible all of this really is in high school?
when i first came into my current school, they made me do a typing test.
i hit 122, which was 30 words faster than the "school record..."
in "large group"(imagine an assembly at most high schools, only they mostly just give out credits and awards.. it's a small school)... i got a "typing award" called "lite speed..."
from then on, i was known as the guy who types fast.
THEN, my computer teacher put me in a "special" course she wanted to pilot...
further setting me apart as "the computer guy"
then, i was over heard telling the district's repair guy an idiot (he was. he pulled the motherboard out of the tower in his bare hands, and then proceeded to DROP it onto the floor)
and finally, i have been commisioned to be the school's webmaster (which i accepted because it's easy credit and i can put it on a resume to hopefully avoid mcdonalds or such).
but now that i've been set this far apart.. people are constantly approaching me, asking me all kinds of questions.. some i'm happy to answer... things about linux, mozilla, tips on good books and sites for learning various things, etc...
but then you get the kinds of questions that over-the-phone technicians dread, only... the teenage versions:
"umm... me and my girlfriend were..um...you know.. heh heh.. and we bumped a pepsi onto the keyboard... how do we fix it?"
"yeah, i just downloaded a lot of porn and i think my mother expects something. what should i do?"
"i tried to put one of my old tapes into the slot on my computer, but it wouldn't fit... what's wrong?"(he was trying to put it in the floppy drive... gah!)
but yes... being distingiushed as "the computer guy" is not all that it's cracked up to be. but, i guess it's better than "the pothead."
i use iframes on occasion because they're just a bit helpful at times when doing up an initial version of a site... while i plan on replacing them eventually, iframes do have a place, i think...
reg frames are irritating though, i must admit.
there are times where it does do this with music...
there's the obvious moment of the conservative america flocking against "devil rock"
and tipper and hip hop
and then 99% of the people i've played merzbow for
and then there's just good ol' john cage.
overall though, the discussion of "is this art?" is so darned subjective that you don't normally get much out of it... were marcel duchamp's "readymades" art? if you've ever asked that in a group of opinionated people who know what you're talking about, you'll understand what i'm saying.
okay, not that i am guessing you'll pick anything up from this, i just have to say it...
first off... it's not "theft".. it's "copyright violation"... get it bloody right because the basic definitions are astronomically different. "theft" implies the following:
you have object a
i come and take object a
you no longer have object a
with intellectual property, this cannot happen. so "copyright violation" would be the correct term... it's an incredibly important distinction.
second, implying that these laws and such are good for musicians is crap. since the dawn of bloody time just about, music has built off of other music... you hear one piece, you take part of that and work with it... have you ever listened to a song, really dug on it.. and then made something that sounded similar in style/jive/whatever? should you be prosecuted for this? under these laws, if i take a piece of music... say a short little 4 chord guitar riff... and decide that i like it and want to build my own song using it.. i could actually be prosecuted. in the same, if i chose to sample a beat from another musician(not even a whole beat line/structure, just a solo beat)... i could be prosecuted!
furthermore, in all your replies you seem to elevate "musicians" to some "higher class" of people... like only select people can make music... that's bullshit. EVERYONE can make music, and it's even in your fuckin' historic culture to take songs other people have written and play them so other people can hear them... that's how music spread before recordings... should all of the people who played these songs (which was the best method of reproduction in existance at the time) have been prosecuted?
and as far as why should someone make music if they're not being paid.. because they bloody well want too? i don't make my music with the intent on being paid. you look at how music was traditionally done where most participated in it and generally enjoyed it(typically talking pre-modern capitalism).. and it's obvious there's something about music that exists for people that goes a hell of a lot deeper than financial issues.
you know, there's so much more i want to say about music and it's place in society, historically and culturally.. and about it's importance and everything else... but i don't have the time... and i don't think you would understand anyway... music isn't capitalism, dude. in the world of music, capitalism just makes it stagnate...
i want grub! does it have to be refridgerated?
will it make my screen blue, freeze, and bring the need to reset like java does on my parent's computer?
while i am all for sending people to alternatives as i rather dislike opera....
looking at my dictionary, it says that to "steal," you have to deprive someone of something they would have otherwise. this would imply two possible scenario's in my mind:
1)like stealing a a frozen pizza from a supermarket, thus denying a person who might get that frozen pizza a little later their right to that pizza and the supermarket of their money for that pizza... money they would've gotten from the person that would've come along a little later.
2)a granny has a walker. you steal the walker while she's in bed... thus, she doesn't have the walker.
if the person is like me, they wouldn't buy opera in the first place... thus opera wouldn't end up recieving any funds in the first place from me. if i didn't download the free version and get rid of the ads... i'd just download an alternative.
thus, getting rid of the ads is not STEALING. while it may be questionable behaviour, it is not theft.
then again, the person seemed rather happy with opera. eh?
the downside to this idea is then there are musicians like me who make music that literally cannot be reproduced live, unless you just play a rough sounding recording and look like you're actually doing something.
then again, i'm not out to make money... and neither are most people who make music like mine that i've ran into... although, being able to have my own studio would be the greatest thing ever.
hmm...
on second thought...my music HAS been used in avant-guarde performance art performed live, but that is a different thing entirely from a live show to me.
if i'm correct, sony is seperated into different departments that really don't have much to do with each other.
in fact, i think i remember a story not so long ago about the music part of sony bitching towards the electronics.
that's about how my nephew really sounds, except without the fake chinese accent i imagined in my head, and he wouldn't do the "solly"
;)
i should try to get him to say "lindows" though! as normally he replaces the l sound with w
i would like to inform the OSS community that all of these "l" names must stop!
my nephew, who has aspergers... has great trouble pronouncing l's, but no trouble pronouncing any other letter. why "lindows" when it could be.. mindows! or dindows! maybe even findows? this is a great injustice towards all people who have trouble pronouncing that inherently evil letter! down with the l sound in the OSS community!
i used "l" 18 times. hmm.
think of all the porn!
i think i'm considerably younger than most people on here, as i was a maggot when we got that machine. being that age, i just couldn't appreciatte it at all.
my judgements on it come from a couple years ago when i dusted off that old machine and used it again... part of the problem with wordstar on the hyndai is that the hyndai likes to randomly reset itself more often than a 5 year old PC with windows 98 on it (and this isn't a thing caused by age, i remember my older brother cursing every 10 minutes back in "the computer room" about it resetting)...
you ARE correct in that it did start good things, however i think at that point it wasn't enough to call it very 'good' quite yet...
did anyone ever hyndai or whatever computers? they were only released as an experiment to see how well they worked.. they were cheap as heck and they planned on giving them to school. they could only handle this bad wordprocessing program, "wordstar"
windows user interface has ALWAYS been prettier than that. even if it always has been pretty damned ugly.
in the case of reagan, you'd have to stretch to really hit 'genocide'... and these stretches would be things like saying that it was a genocide, or attempted one against the poor due to his policies... or more specifically to the poor of other countries because of his leniancy towards corporate malice...
more than likely, they were refering to the CIA backed operations that existed during his time... iran contra, a few central american ones, etc..
kissinger, now THERE is a war criminal though:
his involvement in vietnam, rhodesia, cambodia, chile.. it's late and i'm going off the top of my head, so i'm quite sure i'm missing some... but kissinger, if tried in a world court that wasn't controlled by US interests.. would most certainly be convicted of war crimes..
now, bush's father.. if i remember correct, he was CIA director during ronnie's time... which would've put him as the CIA director during iran contra and all of that...
rumsfield.. thinking..hm.. can't remember anything on him... i think he's definitely more clean than the others as far as war crimes would go.
hmm, and dick.. his big past issues i believe are corporate fraud type issues, if i remember right... some kind of 'corporate scandal' type scenario, anyway.
as far as current-shrub and cheney, i think their big issues is corporate stuff, and possibly things relating to not preventing s11... while it still is for the most part just another conspiracy theory, there's some interesting facts surrounding it that is making some people wonder.. and well, if they let it happen... then they are damn well guilty of something.
sorry for any random incoherences, i need to sleep.. but due to schedules, i can't. if i went to bed, i wouldn't wake up in time:)
1.get a legion of typing monkeys to make up reasons for why IBM has f***ed you over that does NOT include producing things on a higher quality.
2.threaten legal action and hope that they don't push you to court
3.make $$$
(alternative ending: be the laughing stock of geeks everywhere)
this all depends on your own mind. COBOL isn't that hard of a language (at least it wasn't for me).... i learned it in my spare time from my father, actuall... and at the time, i was also self-teaching myself XML from a few books. i can't say too much to help you though, because most of my tips would only help in a non-institutionalized learning atmosphere. tests and grades ruin education:\
my set up is slightly complicated, but i've found it works wonders: i use "aldo's pianito and microstudio" or whatever(www.aldostools.com or something similar) for basic sequencing... windows recorder because my soundcard is etenerally screwed by windows, i think in that it will only record using this recorder... audacity to cut and paste all the sound segments together in a 'logical' fashion(sometimes not so logical)... and soundprobe to touch things up(add various effects, reduce the hiss, etc)
c'mon slashdot crowd, aren't we intelligent enough to realize that sin is an outdated thought process? the whole idealogy of "innocence" is something that needs to be forgotten with the majority of what is called christianity now.... christianity was a social movement which was good for when it started... it was something challenging the status quo... true, it still is with the progressive jesuits in central and south america... but i think generally.. as a society we should be able to push on past these "morals"... basic reason why the christian thoughts of innocence should be abolished: innocence was created and used by the christians to try and keep one from doing sin in the same way a lot of more modern revolutionary groups will claim something is "counterrevolutionary"... sin was designed in such a way so that if you did something that was not permitted by the church.. then you were doing something 'wrong' and should feel 'guilty.' what happens when people are limited from things with guilt trips? they do them anyway, AND feel guilty. the first showing that guilt trips such as "innocence" and "sin" are ineffective, the second showing that they are utterly unwanted(at least, IMO... to any person with any sort of sense)... i doubt tresco means half of what he said... he's saying it to look good... because he is going to be monitered more, and if the monitering shows him as regretful, then poof.. parole! to confront the thought that stealing/copying(i'm not going to confront the argument between those two words really.. although i agree it is the second of the two) from adobe/microsoft/whatever is wrong: in the case of microsoft, they have continually used tactics that are unhealthy to the general community of people who use computers.. and why? for little green pieces of paper. microsoft has probably set computers back more than i can imagine with their marketing techniques... so i completely support any copying of their software rather than giving them more of those green pieces of paper. in the case of products from places like adobe who i don't know as much as i probably should about... i have to view them from my view... which is that of a young-ish kid/adult/creature(depends on what numbers you designate as "kid" or "adult") who has grown up at poverty level.. jumping under and a little above constantly his whole life... who got his computer only because he was lucky enough to have a friend who had a lot more money than he needed and was surprisingly generous... i don't mean to sound like i'm giving a sob story, but sometimes i can't afford food... so yeah, i've stolen from supermarkets that would rather have me starve than give up a little food so i can eat. so i don't have money to buy these 700+ dollar software packages... even though i would like to use some of them! i have used photoshop before, and it's not that great in my opinion... i actually prefer gimp... but i know there are programs out there i would love to just try and see what i can do with... not to make money, but to just satisfy my curiosity and to produce things that i can be proud of. i am generally against intellectual property... saying this, i must also say i am generally for software developers eating. but i feel as a society we must go through a full cultural revolution before we kill ourselves... intellectual property is ridiculous on the aspect that.. how can you own a sound? some text? a little bit of code? a graphic? intellectual property was a ridiculous, and completely unproductive idea... when one person 'owns' it, and you can't take it and alter it to make it better... things are so much more stagnant than they should be. this is why i support the open source community, but i think it needs to go further than this. very much so.... and since this point has been nagging my mind since starting this reply.. i might as well voice it.. i would not participate in the warez community as it is right now... one simple reason: it is incredibly easy to catch those involved... and i don't feel like spending any part of my life even more confined than i am... the warez community needs to work on making things untouchable, or as close as it can get to this... from there the warez community needs to get itself some positive attention and actually gain some beliefs that stimulate their warez trading.. rather than this disconnected amount of people with all differing reasons going to ftp's... from there the warez community could do more for the all people who use computers than linux has, i think... because if we could keep ahead of the feds, we could really force companies into changing themselves... oh yeah, all of you dang /. users need to do some reading on the spokane, washington free speech fight... they can't jail all of us if we just organize!
although this act highly annoys me, and scares me as i don't want to even further destroy all progress this nation has made since the sixties... i just realized that just the day after this act was put into place... i got these books from the library: can't remember who the author(s) were/was..."ecodefence" mikhail bakunin's "god and the state" abbie hoffman's "steal this book" two books on explosives, one specifically on making homemade explosives... and a pamphlet of stuff on local government buildings' architecture. haha.... got the ecodefence one because my friend wanted me to read it... "god and the state" because i never finished it.. "steal this book" for a few of the specific "recipes"(not the bomb/molotov ones, mind you...)... the two on explosives as explosives are just an interest of mine(no interest in blowing off a limb though, so i don't plan on making any)... and the architectural one because i was interested in how much area of a few local gov buildings you weren't allowed in, and how possible it would be to sneak into them just to figure out what's there.
ugh. this sucks for us who have huge amounts of videos..haha... i like vhs, even if it's "out of date".... but, see.. i live in two nephews... one of them is 6, has the mental intelligence of a 3 year old and has been diagnosed with a bunch of shit(bipolar disorder, and some retardation-causing one are the big ones)... videos can take more wear and tear than cd's can in my experience.... and the other nephew is a spoiled little 9 year old.. who whenever i say to go away (because i'm trying to concentrate on something).. or just 'ignore' him while meditating... he decides he wants to break my stuff, or break something else and blame me... and he gets away with it.... cd's are a larger target for him as time has shown... i've only had two video's busted ("natural born killers" and "full metal jacket"..ugh! my favorites!).... yet over 30 cd's.... so yeah.. tapes are nice for the two more years i have to live in the same house as them... plus, i already have 600 videos....
do any browsers other than IE 6 offer support for SMIL? i've started working with it a little, because of how much easier it is to create web page animation when compared to the likes of javascript... i am rather unknowledgable about browsers, i admit...but so far out of the ones i've tested, IE was the only one that read SMIL correctly.... which irritates me, because mostly i find it isn't that great for other things.