Wow. Clearly if you can make the switch from linux to linux seamlessly then it's ready for prime time...
The "my mom/grandma/monkey's uncle has been using linux for..." meme got old years ago (right after everyone realized that they used a $500 computer to do what a webTV box did for $99.)
pretty much. Maybe during the days of NT 4 did I have to check the HCL, but if it was made in the last 10 or so years you can pretty much bet that it'll work in windows.
You and the people in that thread are the reason I haven't tried a linux distro since my 3rd and final attempts a few years ago. The guy gave all the information I'd expect a user needing help with 'doze to give (ie. more than enough.) He progressively got more and more frustrated and the kids went for blood. The biggest problem with linux is the community. You pointing to that thread and not seeing that shows everyone else that the fanboys are too obtuse to realize that linux isn't ready for the mainstream desktop.
I deal with typical users every day. Most of them have at least 1 device that won't work at all or at least loses functionality in Linux. These are common things like webcams, digital cameras, mp3 players, multimedia keyboards, Bluetooth/wireless cards, cellphones etc... The fact that you said she uses digital photography because you email her pictures and she views them is naive at best.
So you setup a linux box to do what your grandmother could have done with webTV. Call me when you setup a box that your uncle can seemlessly syncronize his PDA/Cellphone on while his 3 kids can update their 3 no name brand $40 MP3 players and his wife can print edit/print photos on her 3 year old canon photo printer taken on their Suprema digital camera...
Tried to install it on my machine and it won't. I'm guessing it's broken. I'll try it when I don't have to buy a whole new computer just to install it.
Anyone who praises OSX (which can't won't install on 90% of the computers being used today without hacks) is hereby banned from discussing any compatibility issues with Vista.
I hear stuff like this all of the time and I can say that in the real world you don't have to put up with teasing and bullying. Lastly, bullying doesn't make victims stronger. It scars them, and many times it causes lasting trauma that can affect the victim's ability to function in the workplace. In fact, many people who have suffered long term abuse from bullies can't even have a real relationship with another human being. Not everyone is you, stop projecting your experiences and your abilities to cope on everyone else.
I'm using Vista now exclusively on all of my machines. The only app I've had problems with is iTunes. Here's a few that work without a hitch, Photoshop 6.0, Acrobat Pro, Fireworks MX, Flash MX, Dreamweaver, OOo, Gimp, Firefox, Thunderbird, Opera, and half a dozen legacy in house apps. I especially recommend it for any laptop that meets the sys reqs, as the sleep actually works (in XP I had to reboot to get my wireless nic to work everytime it went to sleep.)
So far I've spoke with 11 (yes, this one goes to 11) friends/family/FOAFs so far who just bought a new PC and can't praise Vista enough.
I'd be willing to bet that you haven't spent more than an hour using a Vista machine.
Can you name a few apps? I'm running Vista here and everything I've thrown at it works (short of iTunes which still won't work using any of the suggestions from Apple.) A few things I'm using just fine here are Dreamweaver/Fireworks/Flash, Photoshop, Acrobat Pro, OOo, and quite a few legacy in house apps.
Your clients keep medical records on workstations? Perhaps they should look into replacing you with someone who can explain to them the problems associated with that.
"Sacrificing jobs in the United States in order to employ the rest of the world isn't something most people here are prepared to do, nor should they."
Imagine for a second I have a factory that makes barbie dolls which I know there's a market for at about $6-$10, but there's no way for me to produce them in the US using American workers for less than $11 so I move the factory overseas. Was my option to make them here or make them there? No. My option was create jobs overseas or don't create them at all...
You look at it like there are 2 options.
1) keep the jobs in the states
and
2) move the jobs overseas
in fact there's usually much closer to this
1) close the factory and eliminate the jobs because it's not profitable where it is
or
2) close the factory and re-open it somewhere profitable.
Think about it this way, if the US was the only economy how many things simply would never get made because there's no way you could make it profitable with US labor. Many times the decision isn't to make it here or make it there, it's make it there, or not make it at all.
The writing was on the wall and he decided to stay there and accept their paychecks for 6 months without doing the job he was bein paid to do. Sounds to me like they're better off outsourced.
Well, maybe not mine, but someone else wanted/needed the job you have.
Funny how people like you think of karma as something that only effects other people...
Setting up a windows server is about as straight forward as you can get. Setting up a linux anything on the other hand is a complete crapshoot that works only when the planets are in alignment with all the hardware you have. I gave up my last attempt after spending days trying to get any of the network adapters (both wired and wireless) I had working in linux.
You preach tolerance while showing you have none. You're no different than a Christian who hides behind the bible to justify their own bigotry or the racist who points to the minority of blacks who commit crime to justify denigrating all blacks.
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So what you're saying is "As long as you can point to something/someone that's "more" evil then you're alright by me."
Wow. Clearly if you can make the switch from linux to linux seamlessly then it's ready for prime time...
The "my mom/grandma/monkey's uncle has been using linux for..." meme got old years ago (right after everyone realized that they used a $500 computer to do what a webTV box did for $99.)
Do you believe that crap?
pretty much. Maybe during the days of NT 4 did I have to check the HCL, but if it was made in the last 10 or so years you can pretty much bet that it'll work in windows.
The fact that you can't see why the lack of those articles says more about Vista than Linux is funny...
You and the people in that thread are the reason I haven't tried a linux distro since my 3rd and final attempts a few years ago. The guy gave all the information I'd expect a user needing help with 'doze to give (ie. more than enough.) He progressively got more and more frustrated and the kids went for blood. The biggest problem with linux is the community. You pointing to that thread and not seeing that shows everyone else that the fanboys are too obtuse to realize that linux isn't ready for the mainstream desktop.
I deal with typical users every day. Most of them have at least 1 device that won't work at all or at least loses functionality in Linux. These are common things like webcams, digital cameras, mp3 players, multimedia keyboards, Bluetooth/wireless cards, cellphones etc... The fact that you said she uses digital photography because you email her pictures and she views them is naive at best. So you setup a linux box to do what your grandmother could have done with webTV. Call me when you setup a box that your uncle can seemlessly syncronize his PDA/Cellphone on while his 3 kids can update their 3 no name brand $40 MP3 players and his wife can print edit/print photos on her 3 year old canon photo printer taken on their Suprema digital camera...
Tried to install it on my machine and it won't. I'm guessing it's broken. I'll try it when I don't have to buy a whole new computer just to install it. Anyone who praises OSX (which can't won't install on 90% of the computers being used today without hacks) is hereby banned from discussing any compatibility issues with Vista.
I look forward to following it. Then again, anyone would have to be insane to hier you wouldn't they?
Would you please point at any other "pointless and boring" things that I should avoid so that I can be sure to avoid them too?
I hear stuff like this all of the time and I can say that in the real world you don't have to put up with teasing and bullying. Lastly, bullying doesn't make victims stronger. It scars them, and many times it causes lasting trauma that can affect the victim's ability to function in the workplace. In fact, many people who have suffered long term abuse from bullies can't even have a real relationship with another human being. Not everyone is you, stop projecting your experiences and your abilities to cope on everyone else.
I'm using Vista now exclusively on all of my machines. The only app I've had problems with is iTunes. Here's a few that work without a hitch, Photoshop 6.0, Acrobat Pro, Fireworks MX, Flash MX, Dreamweaver, OOo, Gimp, Firefox, Thunderbird, Opera, and half a dozen legacy in house apps. I especially recommend it for any laptop that meets the sys reqs, as the sleep actually works (in XP I had to reboot to get my wireless nic to work everytime it went to sleep.)
So far I've spoke with 11 (yes, this one goes to 11) friends/family/FOAFs so far who just bought a new PC and can't praise Vista enough. I'd be willing to bet that you haven't spent more than an hour using a Vista machine.
My guess is in 2 weeks Vista installs will outnumber OSX...
Can you name a few apps? I'm running Vista here and everything I've thrown at it works (short of iTunes which still won't work using any of the suggestions from Apple.) A few things I'm using just fine here are Dreamweaver/Fireworks/Flash, Photoshop, Acrobat Pro, OOo, and quite a few legacy in house apps.
and the can is still out on Thursday. Clearly it's time for the bomb squad to blow it up.
Your clients keep medical records on workstations? Perhaps they should look into replacing you with someone who can explain to them the problems associated with that.
I've still never seen an OSX computer out of the store...
HARP died because Remo found out it was all a scam.
"Sacrificing jobs in the United States in order to employ the rest of the world isn't something most people here are prepared to do, nor should they."
Imagine for a second I have a factory that makes barbie dolls which I know there's a market for at about $6-$10, but there's no way for me to produce them in the US using American workers for less than $11 so I move the factory overseas. Was my option to make them here or make them there? No. My option was create jobs overseas or don't create them at all...
You look at it like there are 2 options.
1) keep the jobs in the states
and
2) move the jobs overseas
in fact there's usually much closer to this
1) close the factory and eliminate the jobs because it's not profitable where it is
or
2) close the factory and re-open it somewhere profitable.
Think about it this way, if the US was the only economy how many things simply would never get made because there's no way you could make it profitable with US labor. Many times the decision isn't to make it here or make it there, it's make it there, or not make it at all.
The writing was on the wall and he decided to stay there and accept their paychecks for 6 months without doing the job he was bein paid to do. Sounds to me like they're better off outsourced.
Well, maybe not mine, but someone else wanted/needed the job you have. Funny how people like you think of karma as something that only effects other people...
Setting up a windows server is about as straight forward as you can get. Setting up a linux anything on the other hand is a complete crapshoot that works only when the planets are in alignment with all the hardware you have. I gave up my last attempt after spending days trying to get any of the network adapters (both wired and wireless) I had working in linux.
You preach tolerance while showing you have none. You're no different than a Christian who hides behind the bible to justify their own bigotry or the racist who points to the minority of blacks who commit crime to justify denigrating all blacks.