the reason people use phone and email instead of walking to the next cubicle to talk to their coworkers is that it makes them look productive. or at least more productive than standing in someone's cubicle doorway. its all about image!
does anyone else think it is absolutely absurd that this is even supposed to happen? i dont need or want perfect tv. i dont even have a have a color tv now if i dont want. why should i have to get a hd one?
whats the point? does this somehow affect ms? i dont think it does. the only people who can use this are windows users who will NEVER have the use for msn pages. woop de doo. those people dont care anyway. yeah, its funny, but so what. i should make a web browser that changes every page to yiddish! then i'd make slashdot! rubbish.
none to shabby. though i must admit i like what proteus has done as far as "tabbing" your chat windows. check it out if you havent seen it. its pretty sweet.
he created the most powerful yet underused language we have ever seen on a computer. he created it some 40+ years ago and it is still around today. thats special stuff.
"I did not ask for it, you did not ask for it: they offered it, they bound themselves to give you your money back if you don't accept the EULA.
Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp for some people?"
this is not a difficult concept. what is difficult, is the fact that if said refund is promised by the eula, and the eula is a binding contract, this it should take ABSOLUTELY NO EFFORT to get this refund. if it takes going to court, fine. go to court, because if its as clear cut as everyone says, MS loses and they pay your lawyer fees.
once again, i present my case that just the mere fact that no one has attempted such a thing leads me to believe that its not as clear cut as you and the rest of the advocates would have one believe.
Re:The issue is them abiding by their own EULA
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i wonder how many people have read this eula with a legal eye, and how many are going on word of mouth.
if such a clause exists in the eula for a refund, then it shouldn't even be an issue to take ms to court in the event they dont honor. however, since that seems not happen, i lean to the believe that you people are smoking the wild herbs.
"If RedHat were forcing Dell and Gateway to sell only PCs with RedHat Linux, I'd still be pissed."
i think you would be one of the few. now dont get me wrong, the windows users would be pissed. but the entire slashdot community would rejoice. at least for a while. and then they would bitch about red hat being the next ms, blah blah blah.
point is, users dictate sales. slashdot does not. there are a lot more "stupid newbies" than slashdotters who know whats what.
as a reply to the "Iraqi" and "donut" comments...
its a philosophy issue really. say it how you will but, "ignorance is bliss."
remember life sucks when you know you are getting screwed, but its just fine if you think thats the way it is.
i'd like to throw out another theory. there is the argument that dell (and others) is strongarmed into the MS dealings. and that may have some merit, but think about it this way, how many linux/bsd people do you know that are just hankering to get their hands on that new dell machine because its just a great piece of hardware.
in my experience, not many. people who are very against windows on their machines either hate MS or they are using illegal copies.
point is, 99% of dell customers need windows!
i know these companies put a lot of useless crap on a system. but the thing is, most people dont mind, or know any better. i've seen the default dell installs, as dell is what my employer seems to love. so i have seen. but the thing is, if you mind all that crap, you probably know how to get rid of it. if you dont mind it, who cares? ignorance is bliss.
i dont know why people dont like macs. but some dont. i personally love em. i'm saving my cash to get one. i think they are the neatest thing since sliced bread. and i share your feelings about linux. it can be a real p.i.t.a sometimes.
a manufacturer that pre-installs windows on their machines is not the devil for it. like it or not, most people use windows, and its good business practice to be able to pre-install it and probably cut the end user a little bit off the price of paying for the os retail.
not everyone likes linux and mac. not everyone can build machines. most people dont like the attitude on this web site, cuz its so intolerant. its time to quit bitching and understand that the world does not need to "be freed from microsoft."
by the way, before you get a chance to reply with all sorts of snide remarks, i built my two machines and i run linux (gentoo) and windows xp. peace.
i admit, its odd for apple to not be at macworld, but who puts them on? is it apple? from my understanding it is not. so it makes total sense for apple to not go to one.
i'm sure it costs a nice chunk of change for them to do their thing and if they dont have anything "new and improved" to offset that cost, what is the motivation?
we've all seen the new goods apple has right now. give em some time to get something new. they just revealed a lot of new goods this past summer so you cant expect another load of them only 6 months later.
i'm curious as to how it hurts the economy. I too live in Boston, and I haven't noticed a lot of homeless people bitter towards Apple because of the mac world fiasco. then again, maybe you're one of them.
the arguement for functional languages is that programs written with them are faster to develop and maintain as that is an inherant part of the language. the problem is, for programs that become abnormally large (like openoffice) they often become unmanagable.
now i have heard nothing that actually dictates why this is, but i venture to say that this problem could be aided by development environments. i dont see how the development of huge amounts of c code is any different than huge amounts of lisp code other than the fact that lisp (and other functional languages) don't seem to have the same support in terms of a good dev. enviro.
course i think the whole world should be using lisp, that way i'd have some good tools to use with it once!
i disagree. sure you may only have to relatively "budge" the big rock, but you cant take just size into account here. the mass of it is going to be a HUGE factor. i dont know your personal background, but what little physics knowledge i have tells me that there is more to this than what meets the eye.
"Give me an example when "vote with your money" has ever worked.
Thought so."
well of course no one came up with anything. you have to post your question first. then wait a while. then after no one comes up with anything you can come back with your witty "thought so."
some people just dont understand technology.
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the reason people use phone and email instead of walking to the next cubicle to talk to their coworkers is that it makes them look productive. or at least more productive than standing in someone's cubicle doorway. its all about image!
does anyone else think it is absolutely absurd that this is even supposed to happen? i dont need or want perfect tv. i dont even have a have a color tv now if i dont want. why should i have to get a hd one?
whats the point? does this somehow affect ms? i dont think it does. the only people who can use this are windows users who will NEVER have the use for msn pages. woop de doo. those people dont care anyway. yeah, its funny, but so what. i should make a web browser that changes every page to yiddish! then i'd make slashdot! rubbish.
none to shabby. though i must admit i like what proteus has done as far as "tabbing" your chat windows. check it out if you havent seen it. its pretty sweet.
whoa! i didn't know that was in the bible! golly, i guess the bible must be true!!!
i think i need a quote or something. what are you talking about?
to all you people who feel apple is "stomping on your rights", this is comparable to the whole not using products in ways unintended.
basically, you sharing files is illegal 99.9% of the time. so apple wants no part of it. it makes total sense.
John McCarthy!
he created the most powerful yet underused language we have ever seen on a computer. he created it some 40+ years ago and it is still around today. thats special stuff.
lisp!
you boys are just a bit too fiesty. if you have to cuss like a sailor to get your point across, odds are good you are just shooting from the hip.
i run linux, osx, and windows (3 seperate machines), and i will say that windows crashes the most. deal with it. it happens.
yes more software for windows. do you use it all? i doubt it. i'm pretty sure that everything you use on your pc is available in some form for osx.
you like your pc. great. use it. he likes his mac. you guys are just being fight pickers. chill.
"I did not ask for it, you did not ask for it: they offered it, they bound themselves to give you your money back if you don't accept the EULA.
Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp for some people?"
this is not a difficult concept. what is difficult, is the fact that if said refund is promised by the eula, and the eula is a binding contract, this it should take ABSOLUTELY NO EFFORT to get this refund. if it takes going to court, fine. go to court, because if its as clear cut as everyone says, MS loses and they pay your lawyer fees.
once again, i present my case that just the mere fact that no one has attempted such a thing leads me to believe that its not as clear cut as you and the rest of the advocates would have one believe.
i wonder how many people have read this eula with a legal eye, and how many are going on word of mouth.
if such a clause exists in the eula for a refund, then it shouldn't even be an issue to take ms to court in the event they dont honor. however, since that seems not happen, i lean to the believe that you people are smoking the wild herbs.
"If RedHat were forcing Dell and Gateway to sell only PCs with RedHat Linux, I'd still be pissed."
i think you would be one of the few. now dont get me wrong, the windows users would be pissed. but the entire slashdot community would rejoice. at least for a while. and then they would bitch about red hat being the next ms, blah blah blah.
point is, users dictate sales. slashdot does not. there are a lot more "stupid newbies" than slashdotters who know whats what.
as a reply to the "Iraqi" and "donut" comments... its a philosophy issue really. say it how you will but, "ignorance is bliss." remember life sucks when you know you are getting screwed, but its just fine if you think thats the way it is. i'd like to throw out another theory. there is the argument that dell (and others) is strongarmed into the MS dealings. and that may have some merit, but think about it this way, how many linux/bsd people do you know that are just hankering to get their hands on that new dell machine because its just a great piece of hardware. in my experience, not many. people who are very against windows on their machines either hate MS or they are using illegal copies. point is, 99% of dell customers need windows!
i know these companies put a lot of useless crap on a system. but the thing is, most people dont mind, or know any better. i've seen the default dell installs, as dell is what my employer seems to love. so i have seen. but the thing is, if you mind all that crap, you probably know how to get rid of it. if you dont mind it, who cares? ignorance is bliss.
i dont know why people dont like macs. but some dont. i personally love em. i'm saving my cash to get one. i think they are the neatest thing since sliced bread. and i share your feelings about linux. it can be a real p.i.t.a sometimes.
a manufacturer that pre-installs windows on their machines is not the devil for it. like it or not, most people use windows, and its good business practice to be able to pre-install it and probably cut the end user a little bit off the price of paying for the os retail.
not everyone likes linux and mac. not everyone can build machines. most people dont like the attitude on this web site, cuz its so intolerant. its time to quit bitching and understand that the world does not need to "be freed from microsoft."
by the way, before you get a chance to reply with all sorts of snide remarks, i built my two machines and i run linux (gentoo) and windows xp. peace.
i admit, its odd for apple to not be at macworld, but who puts them on? is it apple? from my understanding it is not. so it makes total sense for apple to not go to one. i'm sure it costs a nice chunk of change for them to do their thing and if they dont have anything "new and improved" to offset that cost, what is the motivation? we've all seen the new goods apple has right now. give em some time to get something new. they just revealed a lot of new goods this past summer so you cant expect another load of them only 6 months later.
i'm curious as to how it hurts the economy. I too live in Boston, and I haven't noticed a lot of homeless people bitter towards Apple because of the mac world fiasco. then again, maybe you're one of them.
would it be too much to ask of people to read just a few other comments before they post. for crying out loud.
i cant even count all the people who posted oh so clever "5 years? it aint been out no stinkin 5 years!"
by the way, is it really that hard to believe that someone could come up with a report that trashes you precious linux? comon people, its not perfect!
the arguement for functional languages is that programs written with them are faster to develop and maintain as that is an inherant part of the language. the problem is, for programs that become abnormally large (like openoffice) they often become unmanagable.
now i have heard nothing that actually dictates why this is, but i venture to say that this problem could be aided by development environments. i dont see how the development of huge amounts of c code is any different than huge amounts of lisp code other than the fact that lisp (and other functional languages) don't seem to have the same support in terms of a good dev. enviro.
course i think the whole world should be using lisp, that way i'd have some good tools to use with it once!
are we going to start protesting the "mobo tax" now and demand pcs be shipped without a bios so we can use this one?
i disagree. sure you may only have to relatively "budge" the big rock, but you cant take just size into account here. the mass of it is going to be a HUGE factor. i dont know your personal background, but what little physics knowledge i have tells me that there is more to this than what meets the eye.
this is off-topic. go ahead and mod it.
has anyone ever put a hang glider on a bicycle? i just think it would be cool. ahh to dream...
"Give me an example when "vote with your money" has ever worked. Thought so." well of course no one came up with anything. you have to post your question first. then wait a while. then after no one comes up with anything you can come back with your witty "thought so." some people just dont understand technology.
on my car after those little bastards hit it with an egg!
ahh, but your forget, mac osx is superior to your linux. hehe.
TOO EASY DRILL SERGEANT!