For once, don't RTFA! Journal Du Net may be widely distributed, but the content is a bunch of spin put together by a few editors who can't spell (and they go to print!)
A civil and rational debate about politics on Slashdot? Well done! I applaud both of you, and would like to say I found these arguments very interesting.
Re:Speaking of GNOME, what will happen to Galeon?
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Galeon is no longer GNOME cannon, and its future depends on its developpers.
The Mozilla and Gnome foundations met a while back, but the Gnome people said Epiphany would stick around as long as people kept working on it.
It's too bad they don't have support for Mozilla extensions like AdBlock, because they really nice browsers and a much better user experience (IMHO) than the very Windows-ish and Toy-ish Firefox (I want Ctrl-K to work as expected on a UNIX machine!)
It's unfortunately the sad truth. On the Network Computers we use, the Classic Theme just steals all the colors from the other applications, but Modern makes browsing look like one big acid trip.
This is not about a global website, but the viewing of Yahoo.fr in France! France is not trying to change Yahoo for anyone but the French. They are not trying to "shove this down the throats of the rest of the Internet". (In fact, when the initial case came up, the French government would have been satisfied with Yahoo blocking this off to French citizens only) Since Yahoo.fr specifically does business in France, it therefore has to follow the law, just like any other classic company doing business in France would! If Toyota (or even an online company such as Lycos) were to put up a website calling for physical harm to the president, that would be against American laws, and the US court system would act accordingly.
Because this is not a global website, but Yahoo.fr we are talking about. It is specifically targetted at the French market and therefore has to follow the law, just like any other company doing business in France would!
I would really like to see the shell opened up. Microsoft over the years has really focused on providing a better and better user experience. Based on the current demos, Avalon will only move this goal further.
However, I am unconvinced that a single user experience is right for me. Explorer.exe may be a wonderful environment for 95% of users, but true customization (not just theming and custom animations) can only be acheived by having third parties contribute their own innovations.
Some environments already exist that replace explorer.exe: Litestep and BB4Win. These programs are only marginally useful as they were not programmed against the specs, and will likely no longer work under Longhorn.
I believe that a fair amount of teenagers+ who migrate to Linux do it not for the OpenSourceness, but for the possibility to tweak their environment. Wouldn't it be great if one day we had a variety on Windows such as this ?
I'm a big fan of KDE from a technological point of view. Kparts and DCOP just blow me a way.
However, I stick to Gnome. Not because Bonobo is a superior technology, but because of a really simple reason: Gnome is more focused on usability.
The Keramic theme makes me nautious and Plastik is not much better. Why not have these availble as alternative themes for people who want to mess with them, and install with a really clean, simple *non-distracting* theme?
Really, it's that simple. A QT and a KWin theme that don't look like they're made of candy.
It seems to work pretty well. The system uses fake "X$" which can be redeemed for monetary prizes: Their new "pharma outlook" market has a $10,000 payoff, and the MIT Technology review is also using it.
Predictive markets is actually a pretty interesting passtime.
Take a look at Newsfutures, which is currently indicating that Google has a 27% chance of being worth at least $25 billion
It's a great game, and doesn't use real money.
(and for them, it's a great market research tool)
It doesn't matter if Internet Explorer supports this. The great thing about XForms is that it can be implemented on the server-side.
Take a look at chiba, which is real technology you can use today (and I am using), to develop with XForms.
Servlets not good enough? Take a look at 10 different XForms implementations
Who cares what IE does?
That's definitely not the case everywhere. At Ohio State, in the general public computing labs, there's maybe a 4:1 ratio of Windows to Mac. But... CS runs on Network Computers and Solaris servers -Computation servers on z/OS Mechanical Engineering works on IRIX/Windows EE runs on HPUX/Windows Math dept runs on MacOS/AIX Physics, MacOS/some flavor of UNIX.
Talk about diversity!
(unfortunately, the network computers will soon be phased out for PCs running Windows and X-Win32. Goodbye big iron!)
man does not come with its own viewer. By default, man pages are viewed with 'more', which is the behaviour you see in Solaris. Apparently, under BSD, the pager has been set to 'less', which supports the vi commands.
Under Solaris, I try setting the PAGER environment variable to '/usr/bin/less -isrm' or something similar in your startup scripts. This will change man's behaviour.
The Mono project is huge, and looks like it is very close to becoming production ready.
What I have been wondering, however, is why.NET generated so much interest in the Open Source community? Java has been around forever, and hyped beyond belief, yet for all the talk about needing an open-source java vm and class libraries, it looks like open-source.NET is further along than open-source Java in much less time!
Can anyone offer any insight? Is it because most people considered the Java license 'good enough' and didn't bother re-implementing it, while Rotor was so restrictive that a re-implementation was necessary?
Here's a tip for tech companies, then: make your software so proprietary open-source developers have to reimplement it to use it, thereby assuring the dominance of your technology!
Actually.... I think Red Hat has patented some stuff to "protect FLOSS", so that they could eventually engage in 'patent-swapping': if they got sued over patent infringment, they could swap patent licences.
Both QT and wxWindows show their age in their API's. Maybe not in the scripting languages, but in C++ they've decided to reinvent the wheel (own string class, etc...)
The only modern cross-platform API I've come accross is gtkmm. Know of any others?
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For once, don't RTFA! Journal Du Net may be widely distributed, but the content is a bunch of spin put together by a few editors who can't spell (and they go to print!)
.... Slashdot?
Kinda like
A civil and rational debate about politics on Slashdot? Well done! I applaud both of you, and would like to say I found these arguments very interesting.
Galeon is no longer GNOME cannon, and its future depends on its developpers.
The Mozilla and Gnome foundations met a while back, but the Gnome people said Epiphany would stick around as long as people kept working on it.
It's too bad they don't have support for Mozilla extensions like AdBlock, because they really nice browsers and a much better user experience (IMHO) than the very Windows-ish and Toy-ish Firefox (I want Ctrl-K to work as expected on a UNIX machine!)
It's unfortunately the sad truth.
On the Network Computers we use, the Classic Theme just steals all the colors from the other applications, but Modern makes browsing look like one big acid trip.
This is not about a global website, but the viewing of Yahoo.fr in France! France is not trying to change Yahoo for anyone but the French. They are not trying to "shove this down the throats of the rest of the Internet". (In fact, when the initial case came up, the French government would have been satisfied with Yahoo blocking this off to French citizens only)
Since Yahoo.fr specifically does business in France, it therefore has to follow the law, just like any other classic company doing business in France would! If Toyota (or even an online company such as Lycos) were to put up a website calling for physical harm to the president, that would be against American laws, and the US court system would act accordingly.
Because this is not a global website, but Yahoo.fr we are talking about. It is specifically targetted at the French market and therefore has to follow the law, just like any other company doing business in France would!
I would really like to see the shell opened up.
Microsoft over the years has really focused on providing a better and better user experience. Based on the current demos, Avalon will only move this goal further.
However, I am unconvinced that a single user experience is right for me. Explorer.exe may be a wonderful environment for 95% of users, but true customization (not just theming and custom animations) can only be acheived by having third parties contribute their own innovations.
Some environments already exist that replace explorer.exe: Litestep and BB4Win. These programs are only marginally useful as they were not programmed against the specs, and will likely no longer work under Longhorn.
I believe that a fair amount of teenagers+ who migrate to Linux do it not for the OpenSourceness, but for the possibility to tweak their environment. Wouldn't it be great if one day we had a variety on Windows such as this ?
I'm a big fan of KDE from a technological point of view. Kparts and DCOP just blow me a way.
However, I stick to Gnome. Not because Bonobo is a superior technology, but because of a really simple reason: Gnome is more focused on usability.
The Keramic theme makes me nautious and Plastik is not much better. Why not have these availble as alternative themes for people who want to mess with them, and install with a really clean, simple *non-distracting* theme?
Really, it's that simple. A QT and a KWin theme that don't look like they're made of candy.
It seems to work pretty well. The system uses fake "X$" which can be redeemed for monetary prizes: Their new "pharma outlook" market has a $10,000 payoff, and the MIT Technology review is also using it.
Predictive markets is actually a pretty interesting passtime. Take a look at Newsfutures, which is currently indicating that Google has a 27% chance of being worth at least $25 billion It's a great game, and doesn't use real money. (and for them, it's a great market research tool)
It doesn't matter if Internet Explorer supports this. The great thing about XForms is that it can be implemented on the server-side. Take a look at chiba, which is real technology you can use today (and I am using), to develop with XForms. Servlets not good enough? Take a look at 10 different XForms implementations Who cares what IE does?
That's definitely not the case everywhere. ...
At Ohio State, in the general public computing labs, there's maybe a 4:1 ratio of Windows to Mac.
But
CS runs on Network Computers and Solaris servers
-Computation servers on z/OS
Mechanical Engineering works on IRIX/Windows
EE runs on HPUX/Windows
Math dept runs on MacOS/AIX
Physics, MacOS/some flavor of UNIX.
Talk about diversity!
(unfortunately, the network computers will soon be phased out for PCs running Windows and X-Win32. Goodbye big iron!)
man does not come with its own viewer. By default, man pages are viewed with 'more', which is the behaviour you see in Solaris.
Apparently, under BSD, the pager has been set to 'less', which supports the vi commands.
Under Solaris, I try setting the PAGER environment variable to '/usr/bin/less -isrm' or something similar in your startup scripts. This will change man's behaviour.
That's what libedit is for!
That's why you use "octet" when you want to be precise
Speaking of which...
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Live action, nothing but the actors is real
The Mono project is huge, and looks like it is very close to becoming production ready.
.NET generated so much interest in the Open Source community? Java has been around forever, and hyped beyond belief, yet for all the talk about needing an open-source java vm and class libraries, it looks like open-source .NET is further along than open-source Java in much less time!
What I have been wondering, however, is why
Can anyone offer any insight? Is it because most people considered the Java license 'good enough' and didn't bother re-implementing it, while Rotor was so restrictive that a re-implementation was necessary?
Here's a tip for tech companies, then: make your software so proprietary open-source developers have to reimplement it to use it, thereby assuring the dominance of your technology!
Mandrake isn't dying at all!
It's #! at distrowatch.com
The reason it was in Chapter-11 was dot-COM style expansion by a new management team that has since been relieved of its duties.
Their whole education push a few years back guzzled their profits -- and the debts carved away at their earnings
Visual design ...
So, Microsoft will be porting Piet to .NET?
So, who says code isn't art?
Actually .... I think Red Hat has patented some stuff to "protect FLOSS", so that they could eventually engage in 'patent-swapping': if they got sued over patent infringment, they could swap patent licences.
> installation - excellent
:(
So if I can't get it to work, what does that make me?
I think I'll go try Slackware
Mandrake is now also free and open.
Both QT and wxWindows show their age in their API's. Maybe not in the scripting languages, but in C++ they've decided to reinvent the wheel (own string class, etc...)
The only modern cross-platform API I've come accross is gtkmm. Know of any others?