Yes, when you call an 800 number your number is presented to the called party. Think about it. They're being billed for the call and the charge is partially based on the location/phone number of the originating call. Just because your telco decides to charge you for the privilege of remaining "anonymous" doesn't mean that they don't transmit your information anyway. The money you're paying is "compensation" to the telco because they are presumably not able to pick up the extra coin from those customers that opt to have the caller id revealed to them.
Hope that helps....
But consider the following: someone has 1 billion pieces of candy. You take one, to keep for yourself, without permission. Is it theft?
If someone has 1 billion pieces of candy and you take one away then, yes they are deprived.
However, if someone has 1 billion pieces of candy and you make an exact copy, then they STILL HAVE 1 BILLION PIECES OF CANDY and you have one piece. Not 999,999,999 pieces.
So your analogy isn't quite correct.
Since this is a technically inclined group, allow me to pose a question:
If it were possible to replicate (digitally) matter (food stuff for example), would/should there be grounds for providers of the original matter (farmers) to sue that their product was being stolen by the duplicators?
What do you think about the concept of non-zero sum gain?
You shouldn't have too much of a noticeable problem with voip with a 22ms latency. Now if the latency fluctated between 10~100 ms sporadically, you'd probably have intelligiblity issues...
What are you crazy?!!! You admit to programming (if you can call it that!!) in VD.. I mean VB?!!
But among the many other points about VB (requiring MS technology, huge bloated libraries, instability, & etc,...)...why'd you program that DB front end in VB again...?
Relax, I'm kidding. I suppose if someone paid you to program in VB, what can you do? Unless you're independently wealthy or can at least afford to pick and choose your work.
Yes, I know this doesn't really speak to your opinion that VB is superior as a presentation/front-end development platform.
For similar reasons, I don't like to use C++ for manipulating large amounts of text processing. The right tool for the right job.
One last little jab.... ... So does that DB front end run on Linux?:)
...My guess would be that the good programming langage wouldn't be the one with no safe net (C++) or the one with safe nets that cripple the performance (C#), but the one where you can choose the degree of safety you need, and can play with it at will.
So... that would be what... c++ in the hands of an experienced programmer then?
j/k
Really though, as Stroustrup states in ch. 2 of his The C++ Programming Language book,
"C++ is a general-purpose programming language with a bias towards systems programming..." (emphasis mine)
So it might not be the tool you're looking for it to be. But for it's intended purpose, serves quite well.
No I didn't, I tried to show the "precise order of events" is subjective/relative. In cosmology, we don't start with a universe aged 0, we start with a universe that is already 1 Planck-time old when it comes into existence. Within this Planck-time, there is no causality, no cause and effect.
Why? Rather why is it the case that causality is set aside at that point? Can you give a reason for your belief in this assumption?
So "Eastern religions" like Judaism & Christianity as well right?
While I hardly condone/support Eastern values above other regional values, you're letting your personal bigotry show a little too much, don't you think?
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--- Posted by: Sivakumar Natarajan ®
--- Wed, Apr 23, 2003, 07:10:55
--- Author Profile Edit
--- Hi,
--- I changed the protocol section from PS/2 to IMPS/2. Scroll works. Thank you.
"[snip]...
2. CD-Key: You will have to purchase a copy of the game to get a valid Neverwinter Nights CD-Key. Of course, with this purchase you also get a lovely Neverwinter Nights mapkin, a spiral-bound game manual, and three plastic-coated aluminum-reinforced W1nd0z3 brand coasters.
"
No. Seriously. It made laugh... Really, I thought it was funny....
Altough I agree with most of your points, looking at the common practice in publishing where the discarded magazine is frequently distributed pro-bono to the public.
Though this may not be "legal" does it not also reflect the lack of interest in the material (on the part of the publisher) to assure destruction of the material. Doesn't this imply "abandonment" on their part as well?
If you'd read the article, which I'm sure you had, they specifically stated that the traffic (though perhaps not exclusively) would flow through their network.
Just because it's VoIP, it doesn't mean it has to flow over the "public" IP network. They can simply point the VoIP over their own network and still see massive savings.
For the VoIP/PSTN imparied, VoIP traffic can be optimized (that's compressed) down to 8K (or more, but a cost of clarity) as opposed to 56K for traditional circuit switched telephony traffic. And yes I have worked with the technology.
If he's foolish enough to list his home address as his business address, of course he runs the risk of exposure. Is it not his fault for using personal information?
Re:Classic statistical lying technique.
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Thank you for clarifying your point on causality. However that was not the point of my comment.
I was commenting, OT of course, that the final bullet point was the basis of much of mass-market advertising. That is,
1) Ferraris are very expensive,
2) To buy very expensive things, one needs to be very rich,
3) Those who have a Ferrari are, therefore, necessarily rich, -- (false conclusion, I know)
and
4) Therefore, buying a Ferrari is a sure path to wealth! j/k
There are many more implications that can be drawn , from the ads of course... ...then again I could be wasting everyone's time... ... babbling on... and on....
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* People who buy Ferrari's are more likely to be rich. ----
Isn't this the general point of most car commercials for high end (expensive) cars?? ... buy this car and you'll (appear to) be rich...
Perhaps not a complete revamp of DNS and I don't know enough about the alternate name server software to say, however this story SLASHDOT article might point towards things to come...
Yes, when you call an 800 number your number is presented to the called party. Think about it. They're being billed for the call and the charge is partially based on the location/phone number of the originating call.
Just because your telco decides to charge you for the privilege of remaining "anonymous" doesn't mean that they don't transmit your information anyway.
The money you're paying is "compensation" to the telco because they are presumably not able to pick up the extra coin from those customers that opt to have the caller id revealed to them.
Hope that helps....
But consider the following: someone has 1 billion pieces of candy. You take one, to keep for yourself, without permission. Is it theft?
If someone has 1 billion pieces of candy and you take one away then, yes they are deprived.
However, if someone has 1 billion pieces of candy and you make an exact copy, then they STILL HAVE 1 BILLION PIECES OF CANDY and you have one piece. Not 999,999,999 pieces.
So your analogy isn't quite correct.
Since this is a technically inclined group, allow me to pose a question:
If it were possible to replicate (digitally) matter (food stuff for example), would/should there be grounds for providers of the original matter (farmers) to sue that their product was being stolen by the duplicators?
What do you think about the concept of non-zero sum gain?
You shouldn't have too much of a noticeable problem with voip with a 22ms latency. Now if the latency fluctated between 10~100 ms sporadically, you'd probably have intelligiblity issues...
Of course there's the other human nature to perceive that "the grass is greener" in places other than where you are. No?
What are you crazy?!!! You admit to programming (if you can call it that!!) in VD.. I mean VB?!!
...why'd you program that DB front end in VB again...?
... So does that DB front end run on Linux? :)
But among the many other points about VB (requiring MS technology, huge bloated libraries, instability, & etc,...)
Relax, I'm kidding. I suppose if someone paid you to program in VB, what can you do? Unless you're independently wealthy or can at least afford to pick and choose your work.
Yes, I know this doesn't really speak to your opinion that VB is superior as a presentation/front-end development platform.
For similar reasons, I don't like to use C++ for manipulating large amounts of text processing. The right tool for the right job.
One last little jab....
...My guess would be that the good programming langage wouldn't be the one with no safe net (C++) or the one with safe nets that cripple the performance (C#), but the one where you can choose the degree of safety you need, and can play with it at will.
..." (emphasis mine)
So... that would be what... c++ in the hands of an experienced programmer then?
j/k
Really though, as Stroustrup states in ch. 2 of his The C++ Programming Language book,
"C++ is a general-purpose programming language with a bias towards systems programming
So it might not be the tool you're looking for it to be. But for it's intended purpose, serves quite well.
No I didn't, I tried to show the "precise order of events" is subjective/relative. In cosmology, we don't start with a universe aged 0, we start with a universe that is already 1 Planck-time old when it comes into existence. Within this Planck-time, there is no causality, no cause and effect.
Why?
Rather why is it the case that causality is set aside at that point?
Can you give a reason for your belief in this assumption?
So "Eastern religions" like Judaism & Christianity as well right?
While I hardly condone/support Eastern values above other regional values, you're letting your personal bigotry show a little too much, don't you think?
The Evil Bit returns in it's new form, it's now the "Evil Subject Line"
'... I decided to do my own version, considerably heavier. You can get it in MP3 and OGG format."'
... soo where's the license to download it? Maybe a EULA somewhere??
/. to the RIAA now do we?
Don't want you to be reporting all of
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--- Re: Re: Logitech cordless wheel mouse won't work in Linux -- ben perove Post Reply Top of thread Forum
--- Posted by: Sivakumar Natarajan ®
--- Wed, Apr 23, 2003, 07:10:55
--- Author Profile Edit
--- Hi,
--- I changed the protocol section from PS/2 to IMPS/2. Scroll works. Thank you.
--- I use RH Linux 8.0.
"[snip] ...
2. CD-Key: You will have to purchase a copy of the game to get a valid Neverwinter Nights CD-Key. Of course, with this purchase you also get a lovely Neverwinter Nights mapkin, a spiral-bound game manual, and three plastic-coated aluminum-reinforced W1nd0z3 brand coasters.
"
No. Seriously. It made laugh... Really, I thought it was funny....
Maybe it's just me.... sorry....
Though that maybe, how does this speak to the abandonment issue?
Whether the magazine has any perceived value, from the prespective of the publisher, is not the point.
The fact is that the owner has abandoned the property to become refuse.
Altough I agree with most of your points, looking at the common practice in publishing where the discarded magazine is frequently distributed pro-bono to the public.
Though this may not be "legal" does it not also reflect the lack of interest in the material (on the part of the publisher) to assure destruction of the material. Doesn't this imply "abandonment" on their part as well?
Just a thought.
If I recall correctly, I believe he used Minix as a reference.
a free, unencumbered implementation of *nix.
like the title said...
If you'd read the article, which I'm sure you had, they specifically stated that the traffic (though perhaps not exclusively) would flow through their network.
Just because it's VoIP, it doesn't mean it has to flow over the "public" IP network. They can simply point the VoIP over their own network and still see massive savings.
For the VoIP/PSTN imparied, VoIP traffic can be optimized (that's compressed) down to 8K (or more, but a cost of clarity) as opposed to 56K for traditional circuit switched telephony traffic.
And yes I have worked with the technology.
is a DIY Notebook kit!
If he's foolish enough to list his home address as his business address, of course he runs the risk of exposure. Is it not his fault for using personal information?
Thank you for clarifying your point on causality. However that was not the point of my comment.
...
...then again I could be wasting everyone's time...
... babbling on... and on....
I was commenting, OT of course, that the final bullet point was the basis of much of mass-market advertising. That is,
1) Ferraris are very expensive,
2) To buy very expensive things, one needs to be very rich,
3) Those who have a Ferrari are, therefore, necessarily rich, -- (false conclusion, I know)
and
4) Therefore, buying a Ferrari is a sure path to wealth! j/k
There are many more implications that can be drawn , from the ads of course
* People who buy Ferrari's are more likely to be rich. ----
... buy this car and you'll (appear to) be rich...
Isn't this the general point of most car commercials for high end (expensive) cars??
... don't you mean "dons"
/me dawns the inane spell checker suit
Perhaps not a complete revamp of DNS and I don't know enough about the alternate name server software to say, however this story SLASHDOT article might point towards things to come...
... not wanting to bite the hand that "feeds" him and his party perhaps?...
? In d=B02
This is for all you democrats who CHOOSE to believe that republicans are primarily responsible for the woes of the various RIAA/MPAA actions.
Follow the money.
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.asp