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  1. Re:...and my analysis on Slashback: OpenSSH, Bio, Timeliness · · Score: 1

    > Or as a compromise, set the firewalls (home and
    > work) to only accept connections to port 22 from
    > specified IP addresses

    I suppose I could get into my home system from work
    that way, but my home system is on dynamic IP, so I
    still wouldn't be able to get into work from home,
    if I go that route.

  2. Re:Uhrm. on Interview With WOLK Creator Marc-Christian Peterse · · Score: 1

    It does make sense. The math behind why has been pointed
    out by others, so I'll just offer an analogy...

    Is it faster to drive your car, or walk?

    Depends how far you're going. If you're going several
    miles, it's going to be a lot faster to drive. If you're
    going across the street, it's faster to walk, because you
    avoid the overhead of going out of your way to where the
    car is parked, cleaning the snow off the windshield,
    unlocking and starting the car, parking the car, and
    getting out. When I was in high school, I walked. Once
    a friend who was just arriving offered me a ride from the
    end of my driveway. We ended up parking further from the
    school door than where he picked me up.

    The O(1) scheduler is the car. It'll get you to that
    college in the next state faster, but it's no help for
    getting across the street.

  3. Re:sweet on Interview With WOLK Creator Marc-Christian Peterse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > One of the patches talkaout in the interview was supermount.
    > Does anyone know why this is not in the main kernel.

    Didn't know it wasn't... (Guess you know which distro I use.)

    > This is a must have feature for linux on the desktop.

    Agreed. _Especially_ for expansion into the non-geek
    end-user segment of the desktop market (the largest
    segment).

    > It has been included in distros like mandrake for a long
    > time, so it should be pretty stable.

    It's been stable in my experience.

  4. Re:Teoma toolbar on Comparison Of Google to Teoma · · Score: 1

    > The only version available is for Internet Explorer for Windows.

    googlebar.mozdev.org

    Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to install properly on
    current versions of Mozilla, but it worked great with
    0.9.9, and I suppose the bitrot will be fixed eventually.

  5. One thing I'd really like to see in the kernel... on Interview With WOLK Creator Marc-Christian Peterse · · Score: 1

    Read/Write NTFS.

    I would _use_ that. Currently to transfer things from
    one OS to the other on a WinXP/Linux dual-boot system
    is a pain (I'm using an smb share on a different PC on
    the network...)

    Yeah, I know WinXP can theoretically use FAT, but I
    don't (call me crazy) particularly want to have to
    reinstall it, and it came preinstalled on NTFS.

  6. Decommoditizing Protocols on The Ideas Behind Longhorn · · Score: 1

    Three short snippets, and then commentary...

    > His new role plays to perhaps his greatest skill--that
    > uncanny ability to foresee how emerging software
    > technologies can be woven together and parlayed into
    > must-have "industry standard" products, which, in turn,
    > reinforce demand for other software from Microsoft

    > If Longhorn really does turn out to be a Super Windows--a
    > big if--it will handle so many functions of computing that
    > Oracle, Sun, AOL Time Warner, and Sony may find themselves
    > with less to do...

    > Because Gates' geeks are completely overhauling the
    > operating system, they'll also have to redesign most of
    > the company's other software products and services to take
    > full advantage, including the MSN online service, its
    > server applications, ...

    If I read that right, we're saying three things:

    1. Bill Gates' job is to interweave (i.e., make
    interdependent) previously distinct technologies
    so that Microsoft products are must-have.

    2. Oracle, Sun, AOL, and Sony are targeted for
    takeover. We already know the database filesystem
    will make life tough for Oracle. So, what is the
    threat to Sun, AOL, or Sony? I think I can answer
    about AOL (below).

    3. Read that third quote again. And again. Does
    that sound to you like the MSN internet service
    will have to be changed in order to be compatible
    with the new MS OS? Does that mean, then, that
    _only_ (the revised) MSN will work as an internet
    service for users of the new MS OS?

    Remember what was said in the Holloween Documents
    about decommoditizing protocols? This is it; either
    I've misread something badly, or Bill Gates wants to
    "decommoditize" internet service. We already know
    MSN users have to use Outlook; in a 2006, users
    of this OS will have to use MSN (and, of course,
    Outlook).

    Fortunately, 2006 may be too late. In 1998 Unix
    was not ready for the desktop. In 2002, Unix *is*
    ready for the desktop. By 2006, I expect Microsoft
    to have lost some of that market share to Linux
    and OS X. With any luck, Longhorn will be too
    late to lock down the whole market for them.

  7. Re:...and my analysis on Slashback: OpenSSH, Bio, Timeliness · · Score: 1

    That's how I read it too. He's saying that if you install the
    update and use privilege separation, you won't be vulnerable
    during the time between when the bug and true fix are published
    and the time you get them installed.

    I'm thinking about going another route, and turning setting
    things up so sshd only listens for connections from the local
    network until after the bug and fix are published and I get
    my systems patched. That loses me the ability to login to
    my home system from work, or work systems from home, during
    the interim, but it lets me wait for a stable fix.

  8. DSL vs wireless on Wireless Network or Weird Al? · · Score: 1

    Wireless networking is going to be a while yet
    competing with wired networking. Except maybe
    for line-of-sight wireless (which isn't really
    the same thing; it may not have copper wires,
    but it has lines the information has to follow
    sure enough), wireless just isn't developed to
    the point where it can offer as much bandwidth
    as similarly priced non-wireless options. The
    satellite stuff that's supposed to compete with
    DSL for consumers costs twice as much per month
    and has preposterous installation fees. AirPort
    and similar local wireless options are dog slow
    compared to even vanilla 10BaseT ethernet but
    cost more like gigabit ethernet.

    Basically, wireless just isn't _there_ yet.

    Then there are security and privacy issues...

  9. Err, I don't listen to that stuff on Moby Says Techie Fans = Fewer Sales · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't think tech-savvy persons are more *or* less likely
    to pirate music. I think the two traits are orthogonal.
    Personally, I don't pirate music, but I also don't buy
    this guy's stuff, because it's entirely out of genre for
    me.

    I almost never listen to 20th century music, except for the
    occasional Yankovic or Shickele, or a little polyphonic
    (non-monodic) a capella stuff, or stuff other people select
    and play when I happen to be present. Mostly given the
    choice I listen to baroque (especially late baroque), and
    sometimes a little romantic (in the traditional sense;
    Chopin or whatnot), or _occasionally_ some of the better
    classical (I'm not into Mozart; Dvorak is pretty cool
    though). I tire of monody (one lead melody part with
    support from parts written around it) quickly and have a
    marked preference for real polyphony (interwoven separate
    but equal parts designed to go together) or fugue. So
    as you can imagine I have no motivation to pirate anything
    produced by Perl Jam.

    Now, I'm not suggesting that tech savvy people are
    unlikely to listen to modern music. What I am going
    to suggest is that tech-savvy users have very specific
    ideas about what music they like and will pay for, and
    are less likely to buy an album just because it is
    produced by a popular group, even a group that has
    formerly produced albums they like. Part of what
    makes a geek geeky is that he gets adamant about
    small things other people don't seem to care about.
    A geek will refuse to pay for something he does not
    want, on principle, even if it's considered fashionable
    outside of geek circles. (Unless it's a technical
    gizmo he can mess with and reprogram, in which case
    some geeks will crawl naked over a field of glass
    caltrops to buy it, but nevermind; music does not
    fit that category.) But I don't think geeks exhibit
    a marked tendency to pirate, or not to pirate, any
    more than the rest of the population at large.

    Now, people who listen to baroque are probably less
    likely to pirate music illegally than people who listen
    to modern music, but that's a different matter. (Think
    in terms of, lesse, 2002 less seventy is 1932... The
    artist would have to be, err, 180 years old or so. Yes,
    the performances are copyrighted, but the lack of composer
    royalties drives the prices down a LOT. Plus, the
    ecconomy of scale is quite significant for some of it.
    Bach for example probably sells more albums every year
    than this Moby guy has sold in his life (though perhaps
    not more _dollars_ worth of albums).)

  10. Re:$450 from dell on Home-Built vs. Store-Bought PCs · · Score: 1

    > The most fun part about a non-homebuilt machine is when
    > you've got to get something proprietary replaced

    Close, but the MOST fun is when you have to go to a
    machine shop to get a custom screwdriver made.

    HTH.HAND.

  11. Agreed: Thompson's Computer Warehouse on Home-Built vs. Store-Bought PCs · · Score: 1

    I also have had good experiences purchasing from tcwo.com

    They ship promptly and were good about taking a personal
    check (since I don't do credit cards) given adequate ID
    (a driver's license number). All-around good experiences.
    I've purchased from them several times.

    Their selection is not exhaustive, but it is a good
    representation of the things you are likely to need.
    Most of the things I've needed that they didn't have
    were specialty items that I ended up getting direct
    from the relevant manufacturer (an Avant Stellar
    keyboard from CVT, for example), although once when
    I needed a lengthier cat5 patch cable I had to go
    elsewhere (Computers4Sure IIRC) for it.

    I had a different experience (one I would tend not
    to charactarise as positive) attempting to purchase
    from LinuxWarehouse, wherein I was sold an item that
    was no longer in stock, and my order was cancelled
    without notification, but my check was cashed...
    I eventually got my refund, but it took months.
    (Lest this be mistaken for libel, I can provide
    specific details by email upon request, but I won't
    bore all of slashdot with them.)

  12. Collective -- consider the etymology on SpamNet: Razor for the Masses · · Score: 1

    I think the etymology of the term will best answer your
    question.

    The original thinking was that there are not separate
    plural and singular forms. This goes along with (part of) why
    the term "spam" was chosen to represent the stuff. Like the
    meat, there are no clear divisions between pieces; it's all
    just _stuff_.

    Think about it. If your mailbox contains 100 messages
    (yeah, you wish it were so few...), and all of them are spam,
    and 100 other people (again, never so few...) like you also
    received 100 messages, all spam, and without sophisticated
    IP subnet tracking none of you can easily tell who sent any
    given message, and you're all receiving messages from a
    different subset of the set of all spammers, and each spammer
    sends you a different subset of his set of all messages...

    So, any given message you received is very similar to a
    random subset of the other ones you receved _and_ was also
    received by a random subset of your 100 friends, each of
    whom also has a random collection of messages that are
    very similar to this one, but may not be exactly the
    same as the ones you have...

    What you have (all of you, collectively) is a messy
    conglomeration of mixed parts. Like the Hormel product.

    There is no important semantic distinction between one message
    and the next, or between the same message received by different
    people, or sent using different relays... it's not generally
    useful to talk about an individual message. Collectively, it's
    all just spam.

    When you want to start filtering it, you (or your filtering
    agent) have to look at each message individually. Especially
    if you're building a database of known spam. But otherwise,
    it's all just spam.

    There were at one time some other terms to go along with
    spam: jello and velveeta come to mind. The thinking was
    that junk posts to usenet were different from junk email,
    and that multiposts were different from crossposts, and
    multiposts to one newsgroup repeatedly different from
    (nearly) simultaneous multiposts to multiple groups, and
    so on and so forth. These distinctions turned out to
    be unimportant, largely because the same stuff gets sent
    in all of the above ways, and so now it's all just spam.

  13. Re:Hmm on LindowsOS Softens Microsoft-Compatibility Claim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I concur.

    This is a good thing. Most people have very vague notions about what Windows and Microsoft even are; the advertising campaigns have some of them believing that it's an important part of computing, but only because all computers seem to have these buzzwords "Windows" and "Microsoft" attached to them. Exposure to the idea that computers don't need these buzzwords is a good thing.

    In terms of user experience, users want to do a few simple things:

    • Send and receive email, without understanding anything about how email works. When someone sends them an image attachment, they want it to just display for them, and have a clearly visible "print" button. They also want to be able to exchange inane animated greeting cards (the ones spammers deploy to collect email addresses), so they'll need the Flash plugin. But they don't have even the foggiest notion what a "plugin" is, and they shouldn't have to.
    • Print stuff out. This means mostly pictures, bog-standard word-processing documents (letters, resumés, garage sale signs, ... nothing complicated), and the kind of thing people used to use Print Shop for in the 80s (mostly inane greeting cards with cheesy clip art, but these days they want to do this in color; banners are also popular). Printing pictures is no problem. Word Processing is no problem; Open Office is serious overkill for these people. The thing that remains in this category is the cheesy greeting-card/certificate/banner printing package, and I've discovered that people will crawl over broken glass to do this stuff. The software can be _horrific_ (a la Print Artist) and they'll _LOVE_ it. Quality is not necessary, and ease of use is really not important either, as long as it will let them insert stupid clip art and style bits of text with shadow and outline effects and stuff, and give them prefab templates to modify. Currently I don't know of a Linux app that fits this bill, but maybe that's because I wasn't looking.
    • Surf the web. This shouldn't be a problem. I've been deploying Mozilla for a while now at a public library, where the people who use it have no PC at home and know virtually nothing, and Mozilla works fine; I get very few complaints, and those I do get have to do with printing or with the difficulty of navigating certain sites.
    • Play silly little games. Not a problem. Give em a dozen kinds of Solitaire, Gnome Mines, Iagno, and a handful of others, and they'll be happy playing them quite literally forever. (Yes, there are also people who want cool games, new games, 3D shooters, and such, but those people are younger and know more about computers.)
    • That's pretty much it. Most people don't know they can do more than this with computers.

    I'm glad Wall-Mart is no longer claiming that LindowsOS runs most MS programs. Lindows was not ready for that claim. But Linux *is* ready, or very close to ready, for the consumer desktop, as long as it comes preinstalled and preconfigured. I worry just a little about the silly-greeting-card thing... developers don't do such inane things, and I don't know whether anyone has put together a Print Artist equivalent for Linux.

  14. Re:Dead Tree = Useless on General IT Books? · · Score: 1

    First, I want to say that I don't consider dead tree copies
    to be useless in all cases. There are some books I'd
    actually rather have in dead tree form -- mostly ones
    that I'm never going to need to grep but will want to
    take to the bathroom. For example, _Just for Fun_ (by
    Torvalds), or Knuth's book on surreal numbers. Other
    books (any reference book most programming books) I'd
    rather have in electronic form.

    But I really want to address the eye strain point.

    Eye strain can be solved by changing your colour settings
    and otherwise tweaking your environment.

    Black on blinding white will of course cause eyestrain; even
    most dead tree books that are meant to be read for hours on
    end aren't printed on white paper, but a softer off-white
    shade. More significantly, paper is an absorption/reflection
    medium; it doesn't emit light. On a computer screen, you want
    a darker background and a lighter foreground, if you want to
    sit in front of it for days on end without eyestrain. Also,
    a common mistake is to use the highest available contrast.
    That's great for road signs, where you want to get the
    reader's attention immediately, but for long exposure a
    somewhat lower contrast is better. (Not _LOW_ contrast,
    of course -- that's even worse than really high contrast.)
    The best combination I've found so far is wheat (about
    #F7DFB5; or so) on slate green (#305050;). Soft tertiary
    colours are easy on the eyes. Yes, easier than paper,
    if you have a good refresh rate on your monitor. Having
    incandescent lighting (instead of fluorescent) helps too.

    There's a Gnome/GTK theme, called thEmacs, that works
    pretty well for me on my current (Mandrake distro,
    Gnome session) system. For Windoze, you can do something
    similar pretty easily, and I have. (For W95, you can get
    my wheat on slate green and a couple of other colour
    schemes from my website (click on "Personal", then on
    "Colour Schemes I have Perpetrated" -- the base URL is
    in my /. profile); that may not work as intended on other
    versions of Windows, since gradients and things were
    introduced in Windows 98 the format for colour schemes
    in the registry may have changed).

  15. Oh, and for OO design and reading enjoyment... on General IT Books? · · Score: 1

    The Inform Designer's Manual, by Graham Nelson.
    4th edition if possible.

    Dead tree copies of this one are slightly difficult
    to find in stores, but this book is worth going out
    of your way to get. It's not just loaded with
    interesting examples of OO design in action -- it's
    also one of the most _interesting_ programming
    books ever written. The Inform language is niche,
    but this book is worth reading for its own sake.

  16. Surely you MUST have... on General IT Books? · · Score: 1

    I'm sure it was so obvious you all just forgot to mention it,
    that you all have it on your shelves both at work and at home,
    but it really needs to be said anyway, in case there's some
    poor newbie who just doesn't know...

    You've gotta have the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

    I'd also like to add that the Camel Book (Programming
    Perl, already mentioned) is one of the best of the lot.

  17. Just getting started... on AP reports on renewed "Browser War" · · Score: 1

    The browser war has only just barely begun. When MS first
    announced IE, nobody took them seriously. Netscape bumbled
    the first battle, and fell back to regroup. But the war is
    about to begin in earnest soon. You can see the signs, if
    you pay attention... AOL is getting ready to fight with
    all the (considerable) weapons at their disposal. Including...

    * Bundling. They're testing both IE and Gecko technology
    for their next release. I posit that they're deciding
    whether it's time, and what the response will be if they
    switch. They've lost their AOL-on-desktop deal with
    MS, so they _want_ to switch, but what will the user
    response be? They're waiting to see.

    Why do I think they're trying to decide whether it's
    time? Because you can watch them guaging user response,
    as they do tests with the new technology, distribute
    it among a smaller user base (Compu$erve), and so on.
    They're watching to see how it is received. Netscape
    6 was received poorly, and they waited. Netscape 7,
    now in beta, already has better response than 6. Don't
    think they won't notice.

    When will it be time? IMO, soon. Mozilla's user
    experience shaped up considerably over the winter;
    something happened: people who tried 0.9.7 and
    0.9.8 liked it enough not just to use it themselves,
    but to recommend it. When 0.9.9 came out, mozilla.org
    had to get mirrors and more bandwidth, to handle the
    increased demand. Sure, these are all the lunatic
    fringe, people who will try a new technology before
    it's really popular. But here's my point: Netscape
    6 was branched before all of this, and Netscape 7
    comes after. There has been a fundamental shift,
    meanwhile, in how it is received. AOL is watching
    the response, and they're going to see that the
    response that comes back from Netscape 7 will be
    good. It will be time. That's my prediction.

    * Media coverage. You know what a potent weapon this
    is, and you know that this is Time Warner we're
    talking about. This story on CNN is one of the first
    exploratory feelers. Do people want to read about
    another browser? Do people want to read about and
    hear about alternatives? Well, some don't care, but
    others do. All we're really waiting for here is a
    slow news day. Sure, you cover something once and
    nobody remembers it or cares. Cover it a few dozen
    times and see what happens. They know what they're
    doing.

    * The ultimate weapon: version numbers. They've
    pulled out the big 7.0 -- a step "ahead" of IE.
    Version numbers don't matter? Well, not in terms
    of actual quality they don't, but you just try to
    convince end users that version numbers don't
    matter. I tell you that Microsoft will be forced
    to release IE 7 before they end of 2002, and will
    face accusations in the IT community that it has
    few improvements over IE 6. End users won't care
    about these accusations, but it's a multi-front
    war. To win, a browser has to win end users,
    yes, but also IT people and web developers. IE
    went nowhere, despite huge end-user adoption due
    to bundling, until 5.0 came out and impressed the
    IT crowd and the web developers. Until that,
    the websites all still catered to NS4. All three
    market segments matter. This puts Microsoft in
    a tough position. IE6 already received lukewarm
    praise from the IT people; it is barely better
    than IE5.5, they say. But to keep end users
    happy, IE7 _has_ to come out soon, because
    Netscape is forcing their hand. That gives MS
    precious little time to put together enough
    improvements to avoid another lukewarm reception.
    (They'll do it... this time. Even if they have
    to buy their enhancements from NetCaptor. But
    as I said the war is just beginning.)

  18. Re:It's about flexibility on Gnome 2.0 RC1 · · Score: 1

    > Maybe /. hammered it and it needs some time...

    No, but the computer was turned off for the weekend a few hours
    ago. It's a workstation, not a server per se, so it doesn't stay
    on all the time.

    I looked at the logs before we closed shop, and it _did_ get
    hit more than I expected, but not enough to wipe out a T1.
    (It was, after all, nested a couple of levels into a thread,
    and the comment clearly stated that it was an older version
    of Gnome.)

  19. It's about flexibility on Gnome 2.0 RC1 · · Score: 1

    > Looks like they are doing a good job in creating a Microsoft-like UI

    Only with the default settings. Here's a screenshot showing (an
    older version of) Gnome looking a little different...

    http://adminsystem.galion.lib.oh.us/2002_06_14_1 54 824_shot.png

    (That's on my workstation, so it'll become unreachable when
    I power down for the evening, sometime around 5:30pm EDT. Just
    as well; we're only on a T1 here...)

  20. Re:UNIX-based? on Walmart Ships PCs with Lindows OS · · Score: 1

    Linux is just a kernel. These systems presumably ship with a
    more complete Unix environment: shells, standard unix utils,
    an X server, and so on. It's correct to call them Unix-based.

    It would also be correct to call them Linux-based, but that
    would be a different statement. Not that the target market
    will know the difference, but that's neither here nor there.

    Unix does not mean BSD, per se. (Yes, it's trademarked, but
    IIRC not by anyone in Berkely.) It's a general category,
    more specific than POSIX, but not so specific as to designate
    that a particular kernel is used.

  21. Re:Special Offer from Walmart???? on Walmart Ships PCs with Lindows OS · · Score: 1

    > are they charging after the first 3 downloads?

    As I understand it, they charge for some applications
    and not others. Or something like that. Anyway, if
    the installs go smoothly enough, many end users wouldn't
    mind paying a small amount for the convenience. Those
    that do mind can always go download freely available
    software from the original distributors and take the
    trouble to read installation instructions... as I
    understand it, most unixy things should install as
    smoothly on Lindows as on any other Linux-kernel-based
    unix distribution. Installing Windows-based software
    under WINE would be trickier, and if the Lindows install
    process is smooth it could be a real benefit.

    Of course, I haven't actually tested Lindows, so I
    have no idea how smooth its install process is in
    practice.

  22. Re:My thoughts: on Latest IE Hole Lets Gopher Root You · · Score: 1

    > Maybe sysadmins should know this, but Grandma User doesn't

    Yes, I know this. That's why it's troubling. We know there
    will be droves and droves of unpatched systems out there.

    I'm not sure what the solution is for that. Auto-installation
    of patches (as someone has pointed out XP does) has possibilities,
    but it has its own troublesome issues.

    The real problem is that most users know nothing about
    security and care less. I don't think it's reasonable to
    expect that to change soon, either.

    I also did not mean to completely exonerate Microsoft.
    They know and care more about security than a typical
    home user, but they leave something to be desired as
    well. Still, the problem would be difficult even if
    they cared enormously.

  23. Re:Wal-Mart demographic on Walmart Ships PCs with Lindows OS · · Score: 2, Informative

    > About the crack about rednecks buying Lindows...what do you think
    > the average demographic of a Wally world online customer is? I'm
    > willing to bet it's not ma and pa kettle in podunk Arkansas.

    College students and suburbanites mostly, I think...

    But the point of the original redneck remark was that people
    who buy computers at Wall-Mart are not tech-savvy users, and
    that's true, as a general rule. Tech-savvy users buy their
    computers from small shops that build them, or they build
    them themselves, or they shop around. In any case they
    usually don't buy the true bargain-basement stuff, because
    they're planning to upgrade components as necessary and keep
    the thing running for several years, or if not it's because
    they can afford a new (nice) computer every year or so.
    These are power users.

    People who buy computers at Wall-Mart are end users.

    These are overgeneralisations, of course, but in general
    they are mostly true. Redneck is not the word I would
    have chosen, but the point made is valid. Think about
    droves of people buying these things who previously
    were not aware that Apple computers don't use Windows
    and had never heard of Linux, much less anything more
    obscure than that, and have no idea that Windows XP
    is based on NT ("huh?") rather than the consumer Windows
    line. Whether that makes them rednecks or just regular
    people in some field other than IT, the point is that
    they're not computer geeks. They're end users.

    End user awareness that there are various operating
    systems to choose from is a good thing.

  24. Re: Is it ready? on Walmart Ships PCs with Lindows OS · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of the fundamental principles of software
    develpment is that you can't find all the
    sticky problems until you get real users
    using the thing.

    Consider Mozilla: progress was slow until
    the 0.9.x milestones, then all of a sudden
    it was good enough that a lot of users who
    tried it liked it enough to start using it
    as their regular browser, and whammo, the
    bugs started dropping like flies, and it
    shaped up incredibly in just a few weeks.

    Same thing with Linux. Technical excellence
    aside, it was nowhere near ready for the
    typical end user until quite recently, but
    as the user base spreads beyond developers
    to end users, amazing strides are made in
    its _usability_ for end users. There's a
    breaking point somewhere, where enough
    users adopt a piece of software that the
    bugs show up and can be fixed. You don't
    reach that point without early adopters.

  25. Re:DOS Mozilla users??? on Serious IIS Hole; Minor X Bug · · Score: 1

    Assuming Windows 3.1 systems count, there are certainly still more DOS systems out there than Linux systems, even if you only count systems connected to the internet. However, these systems are mostly older and probably don't have enough RAM to run a modern web browser. I suspect most of them are 486 class or less. DOS on modern hardware is a fairly small niche market. (I personally do keep a bootable DOS 6 partition around on my multiboot system, but I don't use it anything like daily, and I use Arachne for the web browser when needed. And I don't claim to be typical.) There was a DOSZilla project, but AFAIK it is dead. I have heard nothing about it for plus two years.