Anything that isn't formally tested (i.e. run in a van, on a plane, etc) must be shown to not fail in any way; all exceptions handled, no bad data can cause an undesirable state, etc.
but...but...but...
Anything? As in anything...or just software anything? Anything such as main tank insulating foam perhaps being capable of knocking a large hole in a leading wing edge?
As I recall, this particular anomaly was tested _after_ the fact. And only then did they come to a realization that their testing-ala-assumptions were way off course. What's not to believe if this malady happens to puzzle-fit into the same kind of mental fly-by?
...the question as posed suggests issues where none exist.
Second-guessing success does nothing more than reflect the lack of understanding of the questioner. The 'failings' are subjective, reaching no further than the opinions of one person; the process put up for examination are at best simply not known, again, at least to the questioner.
And last, but not least, the questioner hints that perhaps there is some sort of success formula to be captured and applied elsewhere, which is at best similar to pretending that quick-sand is concrete. Even if it were, the playing field to which it applied would have gone subterranean before the ink was dry on any report, requiring a new approach, new analysis, etc.
Best to ponder another research paper topic, Grasshopper.
"...where only its own high priests of security may venture."
The concept of 'programmer priest' came about when mainframes ruled. You were not allowed direct access to your data. You had to present your request to the men in white lab coats and wait for the proper circumstances to occur before, even frequently if, you were deemed worthy of receiving an 'output'.
Today, we continue to hear the phrase 'information wants to be free'. MS, having yet again painting itself into a business model corner, simply shows it hasn't learned how to play nice outside the sacred shelter of the priests private club.
Dell's penchant for hollowing out suppliers is just one of the 'thin-line' tactics that finally knocked the company off. No one wants their business these days and they certainly can't compete in the current growth markets.
Don't expect Dell to ever regain from this...going down, down, down.
"That's really unfortunate. Some of those Japanese shows are hilarious, and watching videos from foreign shows is a great glimpse into another culture."
I know I can't get enough of watching some guy try to escape a lit bottle-rocket sticking out of his ass...
Final Fantasy VII - Advent Children
Final Fantasy - The Spirits Within
Final Fantasy X-2
Doom
Doom 3
Bloodrayne
BloodRayne 2
Resident Evil (Special Edition) / Resident Evil - Apocalypse
Resident Evil 4
Alone in the Dark Full (?) list here...
...is TRON really supposed to be on that list?
Actually, the movie was stopped because MS wanted internet dist. rights and the rest of the group had already made a deal w/iTMS:)
I moved from Mini-Disk to a 10gb iPod in 02' - what happened then was something I wasn't expecting at all.
w/MD, I had to build various discs and carry them around, hoping what I brought matched my music mood. The iPod, however, meant I could bring everything...every song/album I had and it still had room for more.
That also meant I could easily find something I liked, at any time. Naturally, my music library started growing at a much faster rate. The 10gb iPod is still going strong today (one new battery & 3rd set of earphones), but there is no way it could hold my entire collection now. In addition, I enjoyed a portable & bootable HD.
Today, of course, most everyone in the family has an iPod of one version or another. I'll spring for yet another as soon as one w/WiFi hits the shelves.
"... this species relies on radioactive materials and sulfur/hydrogen to facilitate its energy needs"
How you want me to think that those 'radioactive materials and sulfur/hydrogen' components weren't somehow reliant on sunlight at some point in the past?
Admit it or not, but the SB have and will continue to rely on sunlight as part of their food chain.
The planet will heal whether we get out of the way or not. It will take us offline, as a necessary step towards self-correction.
Thinking we have control from the top is a mistake - that is like a giant clam feeling remorse for eating too much plankton. We are simply one part of one large mechanizm that will do whatever it needs to make corrections.
It is only our hubris that allows us to think we are part of the system, yet somehow unique.
We are not unique and it is just a matter of time before the system tosses off what it feels is the source of a major problem.
"...plug the disc into their computer to access a cryptophic key..."
'cryptophic' -- crypto~phic: (OS X Dictionary) No entries found
They weren't secure enough in the raw marketing power of their product on its' own, so they tried to find a more traditional means of making it sound hi-tech and all...which indicates they went the 'Super-Duper Asstonishingly Boss!!!' route and elected to dazzle w/bullshit instead.
If anything, 'cryptophic' seems redundant. 'crypto(phic) key' -- 'crypto key'...which is just a bs way of saying 'key'. And 'phic' is just...well, p h i c.
Yep:)...doesn't sound nearly as cool as 'krrrrip-TOE-fiqk', now does it...?
Right...this must be more of the old myth that the ancestry of modern science is exclusively European.
Sure, if you are willing to discount the sextant, the sundail, extant writing, cast bronze acupunture training dummies, gun-powder, movable type...you've chosen to use the already centuries stale F. Bacon method of narrowly defining science so as to give credit to cultures that followed on the heals of the Chinese by centuries.
A grand laugh then and a grand laugh now...thanks for taking a run at me, but if you intend to make your points by re-writing and/or ignoring factual history, I'll consider your involvement in this thread as a weak attempt at humor:)
>At least, having large parts of the population regularly starve is far from my personal definition of "A-OK".
Are we talking about the same China? Do you mean to say that if we penciled out a simple timeline covering the last 3000 years, and then made a short list of major cultures that existed for at least that long, we would find China as a lone example of one where the shear statistical majority of the population suffered significantly as a direct and sustained result of starvation...?
In contrast to your claim that the Chinese at-large served as a benchmark for lack of sustenance... on more than one occasion, while large populations in Europe were fading into history due to starvation alone, much larger populations were busy sustaining themselves in this part of Asia. It is a common myth that the Chinese are a nation of farmers - in truth, the Chinese are 'water people', having relied on rivers and the ocean for both mobility and food supply throughout their history, continuing even now.
Do you know just how many cultures have come and gone over the last 3000 years, versus how many have remained?
The Chinese relate to a time scale that they alone are comfortable with. China tends to open and close on 500 year cycles. How can any short-lived culture, such as modern America with less than 300 years to look back on, begin to even comprehend what it takes to stick around for 3000? What is a significant amount of time to an American, say 50 years, is not so much as a blink for the Chinese spirit. While Americans measure history in generations (1 = 37 years), the Chinese measure things in dynasties, as an example, with minor segments being ticked off every 150 years or so.
It was very nearly 500 years ago when Chinese mariners mapped the globe, only to be wiped off the seating chart by the Mandarins, who decried science, and did everything they could to erase all they feared from the rise of practical science.
Now, 500 years hence, we find China clearing her throat...she has led the world in technology many times before, and she wants that position back. Your claim of starvation getting in their way is a bit funny, seeing as they are still around, after all those years:)
Sorry, but it looks as if you took a comment towards a statement, as one? Who are you qouting...then perhaps that person can elaborate/respond, thanks.
Yep, I too can confirm the site is accessible from inside China.
"Opening up their economy, moving towards capitalism are some of the bigger steps. Allowing wikipedia is a good step in the right direction."
Those are two very interesting 'remarks'...not sure where to start, as you've taken some fairly significant liberties, speaking as you do, and not being one of 'them'.
To begin, how do you know what is the 'right direction' for the Chinese? Are you sure that your definition would be widely embraced by the Chinese?
Moving along, you casually comment about 'opening up'. Opening something depends on that something already existing. You speak as if it is already in place, and what is happening now is simply broad access in and out. China is a 'developing country'. I believe there is a major difference between 'opening up' and 'developing', especially in regards to something so unique as China's economy. Next, you flatly state 'moving towards capitalism' - I doubt anyone would be comfortable proposing that what is happening is that simple. Moving, yes...but China is in a position of moving 'away' from many things, rather than 'towards' your definition of anything. The Chinese themselves are not clear on what China is moving 'towards'... an outside, casual observer, such as yourself, is that much more incapable of making any type of valid claim. I would suggest that rather than serving up your distant opinions, that you come here and ask them in person.
My point is that your comments speak more of what you don't know, as opposed to what you think you know. How can you claim to speak for them...? I don't get it, sorry.
"I believe the more communication the better..."
The better for whom? Again, I'm left wondering what makes you think you understand the situation. You talk about 'communication' as if all forms of it are good. I know you are trying to frame your points humanistically, however, without looking at what 'communication' means to the Chinese, as opposed to this or that other culture, ignores just one part of their uniqueness.
I urge you to consider that you and many others will soon be judging what the internet is and does using China as the norm, not the exception. I am fairly sure your hubris is in for a shock when you learn that you don't define such things to the Chinese, when in fact they are even now defining it for you... Come on over, I'll be happy to help you find a front row seat to a very interesting time in human history.
'They do it because they know they can get away with it, and they're correct in that thinking.'
"I Fart in Your General Direction..."
Since I live in that province, and work in the telecom sector, I think I'll ask the boys in R & D tomorrow if anyone knows of anyone knock, knock, knocking on USDCs' digital door...
Reminds me of being 'detained' as a teenager, back in the '60s, because the car we were in had a small American flag on the antenna that was upside down...
That was regular cops and they seem to have come around since then. These TSA wonks are more like renta-cops - got shot at by one of them, back then as well, and the regular cops that came out said they would have been 'ok' with me shooting back.
Amazing what a little taste of authority will do for an otherwise flimsy backbone.
"Given Microsoft's position in the video sharing market (dead last), I expected a more aggressive product."
Does this in turn mean that you would expect a 'less aggressive product' from the vs market leader?
You seem to be overlooking the fact that MS has a generally poor record all around when it comes to video, which should mean lower expectations. I simply don't see how anything here comes as a surprise.
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Anything that isn't formally tested (i.e. run in a van, on a plane, etc) must be shown to not fail in any way; all exceptions handled, no bad data can cause an undesirable state, etc.
but...but...but...
Anything? As in anything...or just software anything? Anything such as main tank insulating foam perhaps being capable of knocking a large hole in a leading wing edge?
As I recall, this particular anomaly was tested _after_ the fact. And only then did they come to a realization that their testing-ala-assumptions were way off course. What's not to believe if this malady happens to puzzle-fit into the same kind of mental fly-by?
...do you have any idea how much iTMS is worth? Talk about profit...
...the question as posed suggests issues where none exist.
Second-guessing success does nothing more than reflect the lack of understanding of the questioner. The 'failings' are subjective, reaching no further than the opinions of one person; the process put up for examination are at best simply not known, again, at least to the questioner.
And last, but not least, the questioner hints that perhaps there is some sort of success formula to be captured and applied elsewhere, which is at best similar to pretending that quick-sand is concrete. Even if it were, the playing field to which it applied would have gone subterranean before the ink was dry on any report, requiring a new approach, new analysis, etc.
Best to ponder another research paper topic, Grasshopper.
Wow man......surf's up, man. Fast waves? I'm in! Time to hit the beach!
...the more they stay the same.
"...where only its own high priests of security may venture."
The concept of 'programmer priest' came about when mainframes ruled. You were not allowed direct access to your data. You had to present your request to the men in white lab coats and wait for the proper circumstances to occur before, even frequently if, you were deemed worthy of receiving an 'output'.
Today, we continue to hear the phrase 'information wants to be free'. MS, having yet again painting itself into a business model corner, simply shows it hasn't learned how to play nice outside the sacred shelter of the priests private club.
I told you, Dell is a one-trick pony.
Dell's penchant for hollowing out suppliers is just one of the 'thin-line' tactics that finally knocked the company off. No one wants their business these days and they certainly can't compete in the current growth markets.
Don't expect Dell to ever regain from this...going down, down, down.
Good riddance to bad rubbish!
"That's really unfortunate. Some of those Japanese shows are hilarious, and watching videos from foreign shows is a great glimpse into another culture."
I know I can't get enough of watching some guy try to escape a lit bottle-rocket sticking out of his ass...
Final Fantasy VII - Advent Children
...is TRON really supposed to be on that list?
:)
Final Fantasy - The Spirits Within
Final Fantasy X-2
Doom
Doom 3
Bloodrayne
BloodRayne 2
Resident Evil (Special Edition) / Resident Evil - Apocalypse
Resident Evil 4
Alone in the Dark
Full (?) list here...
Actually, the movie was stopped because MS wanted internet dist. rights and the rest of the group had already made a deal w/iTMS
I moved from Mini-Disk to a 10gb iPod in 02' - what happened then was something I wasn't expecting at all.
w/MD, I had to build various discs and carry them around, hoping what I brought matched my music mood. The iPod, however, meant I could bring everything...every song/album I had and it still had room for more.
That also meant I could easily find something I liked, at any time. Naturally, my music library started growing at a much faster rate. The 10gb iPod is still going strong today (one new battery & 3rd set of earphones), but there is no way it could hold my entire collection now. In addition, I enjoyed a portable & bootable HD.
Today, of course, most everyone in the family has an iPod of one version or another. I'll spring for yet another as soon as one w/WiFi hits the shelves.
"... this species relies on radioactive materials and sulfur/hydrogen to facilitate its energy needs"
How you want me to think that those 'radioactive materials and sulfur/hydrogen' components weren't somehow reliant on sunlight at some point in the past?
Admit it or not, but the SB have and will continue to rely on sunlight as part of their food chain.
Any publicity is good...good publicity is even better.
:)
Keep chatting it up, people. This is exactly what red-o-mundo' wants - how's it feel to be sooooo used, eh?
The planet will heal whether we get out of the way or not. It will take us offline, as a necessary step towards self-correction.
Thinking we have control from the top is a mistake - that is like a giant clam feeling remorse for eating too much plankton. We are simply one part of one large mechanizm that will do whatever it needs to make corrections.
It is only our hubris that allows us to think we are part of the system, yet somehow unique.
We are not unique and it is just a matter of time before the system tosses off what it feels is the source of a major problem.
"...plug the disc into their computer to access a cryptophic key..."
:) ...doesn't sound nearly as cool as 'krrrrip-TOE-fiqk', now does it...?
'cryptophic' -- crypto~phic: (OS X Dictionary) No entries found
They weren't secure enough in the raw marketing power of their product on its' own, so they tried to find a more traditional means of making it sound hi-tech and all...which indicates they went the 'Super-Duper Asstonishingly Boss!!!' route and elected to dazzle w/bullshit instead.
If anything, 'cryptophic' seems redundant. 'crypto(phic) key' -- 'crypto key'...which is just a bs way of saying 'key'. And 'phic' is just...well, p h i c.
Yep
>The chinese did not have science.
:)
Right...this must be more of the old myth that the ancestry of modern science is exclusively European.
Sure, if you are willing to discount the sextant, the sundail, extant writing, cast bronze acupunture training dummies, gun-powder, movable type...you've chosen to use the already centuries stale F. Bacon method of narrowly defining science so as to give credit to cultures that followed on the heals of the Chinese by centuries.
A grand laugh then and a grand laugh now...thanks for taking a run at me, but if you intend to make your points by re-writing and/or ignoring factual history, I'll consider your involvement in this thread as a weak attempt at humor
-1 mod...? For asking the guy if he expected me versus someone else to elaborate? How is that worth wasting a mod point? What did I do to you? :)
>At least, having large parts of the population regularly starve is far from my personal definition of "A-OK".
:)
Are we talking about the same China? Do you mean to say that if we penciled out a simple timeline covering the last 3000 years, and then made a short list of major cultures that existed for at least that long, we would find China as a lone example of one where the shear statistical majority of the population suffered significantly as a direct and sustained result of starvation...?
In contrast to your claim that the Chinese at-large served as a benchmark for lack of sustenance... on more than one occasion, while large populations in Europe were fading into history due to starvation alone, much larger populations were busy sustaining themselves in this part of Asia. It is a common myth that the Chinese are a nation of farmers - in truth, the Chinese are 'water people', having relied on rivers and the ocean for both mobility and food supply throughout their history, continuing even now.
Do you know just how many cultures have come and gone over the last 3000 years, versus how many have remained?
The Chinese relate to a time scale that they alone are comfortable with. China tends to open and close on 500 year cycles. How can any short-lived culture, such as modern America with less than 300 years to look back on, begin to even comprehend what it takes to stick around for 3000? What is a significant amount of time to an American, say 50 years, is not so much as a blink for the Chinese spirit. While Americans measure history in generations (1 = 37 years), the Chinese measure things in dynasties, as an example, with minor segments being ticked off every 150 years or so.
It was very nearly 500 years ago when Chinese mariners mapped the globe, only to be wiped off the seating chart by the Mandarins, who decried science, and did everything they could to erase all they feared from the rise of practical science.
Now, 500 years hence, we find China clearing her throat...she has led the world in technology many times before, and she wants that position back. Your claim of starvation getting in their way is a bit funny, seeing as they are still around, after all those years
>Please elaborate?
Sorry, but it looks as if you took a comment towards a statement, as one? Who are you qouting...then perhaps that person can elaborate/respond, thanks.
Yep, I too can confirm the site is accessible from inside China.
"Opening up their economy, moving towards capitalism are some of the bigger steps. Allowing wikipedia is a good step in the right direction."
Those are two very interesting 'remarks'...not sure where to start, as you've taken some fairly significant liberties, speaking as you do, and not being one of 'them'.
To begin, how do you know what is the 'right direction' for the Chinese? Are you sure that your definition would be widely embraced by the Chinese?
Moving along, you casually comment about 'opening up'. Opening something depends on that something already existing. You speak as if it is already in place, and what is happening now is simply broad access in and out. China is a 'developing country'. I believe there is a major difference between 'opening up' and 'developing', especially in regards to something so unique as China's economy. Next, you flatly state 'moving towards capitalism' - I doubt anyone would be comfortable proposing that what is happening is that simple. Moving, yes...but China is in a position of moving 'away' from many things, rather than 'towards' your definition of anything. The Chinese themselves are not clear on what China is moving 'towards'... an outside, casual observer, such as yourself, is that much more incapable of making any type of valid claim. I would suggest that rather than serving up your distant opinions, that you come here and ask them in person.
My point is that your comments speak more of what you don't know, as opposed to what you think you know. How can you claim to speak for them...? I don't get it, sorry.
"I believe the more communication the better..."
The better for whom? Again, I'm left wondering what makes you think you understand the situation. You talk about 'communication' as if all forms of it are good. I know you are trying to frame your points humanistically, however, without looking at what 'communication' means to the Chinese, as opposed to this or that other culture, ignores just one part of their uniqueness.
I urge you to consider that you and many others will soon be judging what the internet is and does using China as the norm, not the exception. I am fairly sure your hubris is in for a shock when you learn that you don't define such things to the Chinese, when in fact they are even now defining it for you... Come on over, I'll be happy to help you find a front row seat to a very interesting time in human history.
"...will the project be renamed to avoid notoriety?"
Bit late for that, eh?
'They do it because they know they can get away with it, and they're correct in that thinking.'
"I Fart in Your General Direction..."
Since I live in that province, and work in the telecom sector, I think I'll ask the boys in R & D tomorrow if anyone knows of anyone knock, knock, knocking on USDCs' digital door...
My Motorola E680i & A1200 both run Linux, and I've had the E680i for a year now...
Of course, living in Asia makes this a bit easier, but hey, anything beats having MS on a phone.
Reminds me of being 'detained' as a teenager, back in the '60s, because the car we were in had a small American flag on the antenna that was upside down...
That was regular cops and they seem to have come around since then. These TSA wonks are more like renta-cops - got shot at by one of them, back then as well, and the regular cops that came out said they would have been 'ok' with me shooting back.
Amazing what a little taste of authority will do for an otherwise flimsy backbone.
Our take? Apple should be happy blahblah blah blah blahblah!"
Jeeeshh!!
First you bitch about the baby, now you bitch 'cause we're not married! What's it gonna take to shut you the hell up...?
"Given Microsoft's position in the video sharing market (dead last), I expected a more aggressive product."
Does this in turn mean that you would expect a 'less aggressive product' from the vs market leader?
You seem to be overlooking the fact that MS has a generally poor record all around when it comes to video, which should mean lower expectations. I simply don't see how anything here comes as a surprise.
Did you see that?
See what?
That avatar looked at me...
C'mon man...avatars can't 'look' at anybody...
No, man...I'm serious as a heart-attack. I swear. That big red she-male avatar over there by the elevator looked right at me!
Listen. Avatars here are on display...that's all. They have no host and no history files so they can't do ANYTHING - get it?
Ok, whatever you say, but I'm telling you, that 'no-host, no-history' cross-breed stared at me as we floated by.