Oh, and one more thing. Read that wiki article you posted. The CDDL isn't the problem, it's that Linux's license doesn't permit linking. Not the other way around.
So, why not quit complaining about the permissive license ZFS is under, and start complaining about the restrictive license Linux is under? ( your post should read "Please put Linux under a new license" )
Well, it's legally enforceable in so far as you're not legally allowed to change the license anyways. I just put a comment block underneath the license as a reminder so that people don't try it ( like how the Linux people tried to GPL a bunch of openbsd code a while back )
Personally, I want the code I write to remain free, but the code other people write around it, they can do whatever they want with. I tend to release code under a mozilla/cddl style license with a GPL exception ( though I make sure to leave a strongly worded comment that any code contained MAY NOT be relicensed under the GPL, since GPL people tend to forget that importing doesn't imply relicensing )
I can see the argument for TV ( I rarely watch a TV show more than once ), but having archives ( and I'm not even talking pirated here, just regular rips ) of a couple hundred movies isn't too far-fetched.
It becomes a pain after a certain number to flip through the physical DVD's, and much easier to use something like Delicious Library to pick a movie; If you've got a digital copy of that movie on an NFS server in the closet or whatever, it can be played instantly. Also protects against scratches if you've got your physical media in used-once condition sealed away somewhere in storage
"Yea, stay away. If you have a load of 80 on a 32 CPU system, you didn't design the hardware or software correctly."
"it would take the better part of a day to get Solaris set up (have to remember to disable telnet, find the latest patch cluster, reboot, install gcc and other apps). Bleah."
All that stufff is included by default now. You being inexperienced is not a fault of the OS
"ZFS - Are you really using your server for data storage? SAN or NAS should be a better option depending on your price point"
Why not set up a server for data storage? Then you get all the ZFS checksum/auto-heal/snapshot goodness ?
"Zones - I still have yet to see a reason to use this except for dedicated virtualization servers."
Zones are so cheap, I run every single service in a zone so that they can be migrated between machines, any dependencies can be contained, etc. If you haven't seen a use for them it's because you haven't ever used them.
"rcapd - ulimit can do this per process, and there are also multiple 3rd party open source resource limiters."
And yanking the ram stick can do it per-machine. How coarse grained do you want to go before you look like a fool?
In almost every case, the Solaris and other random unix environments could be replaced with Linux at 1/10th the cost."
Solaris is free. Support is 1/3 the price of RHEL. It runs on cheap Dell/Supermicro whiteboxes.
Yeah, Linux has CFS and all... but does it have it/AT THE SAME TIME/ as other schedulers?
Solaris has 5 schedulers and they can all be running at the same time ( they all have different priorities ), no need to pick on boot or compile which algo. you want to use
And burning oil doesn't create pollution either because that carbon all used to be in the air anyways, it was just fixed by living things, so clearly the planet evolved ( it wasn't designed ) to handle that too
"There have also been discussions here on Slashdot about whether any Computer Science curriculum gives students the knowledge they need for the working world."
Should it? I'd feel shortchanged if my university gave me some vocational training rather than bringing me up to speed in the academic discipline of "Computer Science". If I want some vocational training I can go to the local college and take the "Be a programmer in 6 months!" program
Math != accounting, Biology != how to run a PCR machine, CS != how to program.
"there's very little actual difference between the apache license and BSD"
FUD and lies. The Apache license requires you share the code that is under the Apache license. Any file that contains any apache licensed code must remain apache licensed, along with any changes.
The difference between Apache and GPL is that GPL defines some vague "project" whereas Apache uses the clear term "file" as the domain the viral clause applies to
Intel & Sun's compilers have openmp -xautopar flags, such that when you build your code, the compiler is smart enough to find obvious places to parallelise your code (loops, what have you)
But honestly, I think it'll take about 8 or 9 years for the real potential of multicore to start to pay dividends. First universities will need to start teaching OpenMP ( or whatever ), then the kids graduate, and start using it @ work
outlandish or not, it's a reductio ad absurdum for the whole libertarian notion that everyone can be completely equal (don't mean economically... ) and free.
Governments wield a lot of power. Take them out of the picture, and economics will self-organize to another group having a lot of power, if only by virtue that they make a lot of money and continue to make more until the point that they wield enough economic power to be de-facto government organizations
"Slavery is anathema to libertarian ideology, because it allows one person to impinge on the rights of another. "
But at what point do you stop? Hypothetical libertarian land: I have a lot of money... like/a lot/. I pay every business in the state to not hire you, sell you a car, or sell you a bus/plane ticket ( in case you try to leave the state ). You starve to death. My right to spend my money as I wish impeded your right to not starve to death. Capitalism works!
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Oh, and one more thing. Read that wiki article you posted. The CDDL isn't the problem, it's that Linux's license doesn't permit linking. Not the other way around.
So, why not quit complaining about the permissive license ZFS is under, and start complaining about the restrictive license Linux is under? ( your post should read "Please put Linux under a new license" )
Why would they want to do that?
Why not give OpenSolaris a whirl instead? Or FreeBSD? Or a Mac?
Face it, CDDL is just much more compatible and fosters more sharing than GPL. It was a good choice.
no shoes = hippie = HURD
Well, it's legally enforceable in so far as you're not legally allowed to change the license anyways. I just put a comment block underneath the license as a reminder so that people don't try it ( like how the Linux people tried to GPL a bunch of openbsd code a while back )
I agree.
Personally, I want the code I write to remain free, but the code other people write around it, they can do whatever they want with. I tend to release code under a mozilla/cddl style license with a GPL exception ( though I make sure to leave a strongly worded comment that any code contained MAY NOT be relicensed under the GPL, since GPL people tend to forget that importing doesn't imply relicensing )
"it seems that no sooner do the devs get something just about working before they get bored and move on to something new."
That describes a lot of open-source in general...
I can see the argument for TV ( I rarely watch a TV show more than once ), but having archives ( and I'm not even talking pirated here, just regular rips ) of a couple hundred movies isn't too far-fetched.
It becomes a pain after a certain number to flip through the physical DVD's, and much easier to use something like Delicious Library to pick a movie; If you've got a digital copy of that movie on an NFS server in the closet or whatever, it can be played instantly. Also protects against scratches if you've got your physical media in used-once condition sealed away somewhere in storage
you don't pirate much, do you...
I know people for whom a 4Tb array is just comfortable, not "lots"
Umm... a corporation by definition doesn't have an owner, it has shareholders
Heavily modified Linux. Ship of Theseus style Linux ( Is it still linux if only the interfaces are the same? )
Unmodified Solaris scales to > 512 CPU's almost linear
"Yea, stay away. If you have a load of 80 on a 32 CPU system, you didn't design the hardware or software correctly."
"it would take the better part of a day to get Solaris set up (have to remember to disable telnet, find the latest patch cluster, reboot, install gcc and other apps). Bleah."
All that stufff is included by default now. You being inexperienced is not a fault of the OS
Couple points:
"ZFS - Are you really using your server for data storage? SAN or NAS should be a better option depending on your price point"
Why not set up a server for data storage? Then you get all the ZFS checksum/auto-heal/snapshot goodness ?
"Zones - I still have yet to see a reason to use this except for dedicated virtualization servers."
Zones are so cheap, I run every single service in a zone so that they can be migrated between machines, any dependencies can be contained, etc. If you haven't seen a use for them it's because you haven't ever used them.
"rcapd - ulimit can do this per process, and there are also multiple 3rd party open source resource limiters."
And yanking the ram stick can do it per-machine. How coarse grained do you want to go before you look like a fool?
In almost every case, the Solaris and other random unix environments could be replaced with Linux at 1/10th the cost."
Solaris is free. Support is 1/3 the price of RHEL. It runs on cheap Dell/Supermicro whiteboxes.
Yeah, Linux has CFS and all... but does it have it /AT THE SAME TIME/ as other schedulers?
Solaris has 5 schedulers and they can all be running at the same time ( they all have different priorities ), no need to pick on boot or compile which algo. you want to use
and milk comes in bags ( it does. )
Sounds like a problem with bash more than anything
ksh93 can parse XML plenty fine
And burning oil doesn't create pollution either because that carbon all used to be in the air anyways, it was just fixed by living things, so clearly the planet evolved ( it wasn't designed ) to handle that too
why replace one closed source app with another?
Why not just use Songbird or something?
"There have also been discussions here on Slashdot about whether any Computer Science curriculum gives students the knowledge they need for the working world."
Should it? I'd feel shortchanged if my university gave me some vocational training rather than bringing me up to speed in the academic discipline of "Computer Science". If I want some vocational training I can go to the local college and take the "Be a programmer in 6 months!" program
Math != accounting, Biology != how to run a PCR machine, CS != how to program.
Yeah, but they were going up against Sun Microsystems.
"there's very little actual difference between the apache license and BSD"
FUD and lies. The Apache license requires you share the code that is under the Apache license. Any file that contains any apache licensed code must remain apache licensed, along with any changes.
The difference between Apache and GPL is that GPL defines some vague "project" whereas Apache uses the clear term "file" as the domain the viral clause applies to
Intel & Sun's compilers have openmp -xautopar flags, such that when you build your code, the compiler is smart enough to find obvious places to parallelise your code (loops, what have you)
But honestly, I think it'll take about 8 or 9 years for the real potential of multicore to start to pay dividends. First universities will need to start teaching OpenMP ( or whatever ), then the kids graduate, and start using it @ work
except in this case, AMD's the underdog because it has lower price, performance and quality.
Sometimes the underdog deserves to be there...
"AMD is the last bastion of creativity in CPUs."
Have you checked out UltraSPARC T1 and the upcoming UltraSPARC Rock CPU's ? There's still creativity in microprocessors...
By the way, T1 and T2 are also the only commercial open-source processor
outlandish or not, it's a reductio ad absurdum for the whole libertarian notion that everyone can be completely equal (don't mean economically... ) and free.
Governments wield a lot of power. Take them out of the picture, and economics will self-organize to another group having a lot of power, if only by virtue that they make a lot of money and continue to make more until the point that they wield enough economic power to be de-facto government organizations
"Slavery is anathema to libertarian ideology, because it allows one person to impinge on the rights of another. "
/a lot/. I pay every business in the state to not hire you, sell you a car, or sell you a bus/plane ticket ( in case you try to leave the state ). You starve to death. My right to spend my money as I wish impeded your right to not starve to death. Capitalism works!
But at what point do you stop? Hypothetical libertarian land: I have a lot of money... like