And you know what? It looks as though it's working. Getting their desktop act together combined with StarOffice and excellent support may help Sun out of it's doldrums after all.
I have to admit that I wasn't sold on the 'Java' desktop (whatever), but it seems that they are pushing the right buttons here.
...with version 2.0 - at least I think so. There are significant Mac OSX updates planned for that version. Right now, OOo runs as a straight Unix app on OSX - not something Sun would want to support.
Yes, I RTFA just fine thanks. That still doesn't meet my criteria - it's not near specific enough.
Did 300 baud modems connected to Compuserve in 1983 make a VAST difference in the household use of computers? Undoubtedly. Is it fair to compare it to the dot-com boom years of the Internet's privatization - no way!
Did the Amiga change the way a lot of people thought about multimedia? Well, yes, for those who saw it at the time. Many who did nonetheless compared it to a game machine - but who would even THINK about buying a 'business pc' for the home without the ability to play a great game or listen to music nowadays?
Was the Amiga's contribution to multimedia any lesser, or just a case of bad timing? A list like this is just too general to address technology that made a difference at the wrong time.
...trying to pigeonhole only a 'top 10'. Top 10 WHAT? It would be easy to ignore the contributions of 8-bit computers nowadays, but at one time there weren't many other options and each type had a specific advantage.
Hint to the writer: If you're going to do a list like this, try and be more specific.
When I was a kid I actually snuck a tape recorder into the theatre with me under my winter coat. Of course, back in 1977 there weren't too many other options.
It wasn't a microcassette recorder either - it was the BIG honking black Radio Shack model - the one that doubled as a data storage unit for the TRS-80. Amazing I got away with that.
Years later I could still recite pretty much the whole movie by heart. Thank God for those T-120 tapes!
SCO has raised enough issues now that to not crush them utterly would mean that there will be no legal challenge addressed for the GPL. IBM is probably a bit shaken by all this - after all, they've bet the farm on Linux and the GPL.
No, they will end up fighting this to the bitter end. There should be no doubt left about the legal status of the GPL or Unix/Linux. Having those issues settled will clear the way for the comfort level of their clients.
Yep. But I'm talking about the next three - The Third Chronicles of Thomas Covenant. He's talked about it before. Donaldson said that the first trilogy is themed on conflict with the adversary, the second on victory through sacrifice and the third (should it happen) will be about victory through acceptance.
Of course how he will do this now that Covenant is dead and Linden Avery has his ring is anyone's guess. On the other hand, Lord Foul once told him that 'even death will not protect you..' so maybe there's something there.
I agree 'Mouth'. I think the problem is either that Donaldson didn't fully give the reader Covenant's mental state in a way that helps explain his actions, or people refuse to empathize regardless. Some people will never believe in the concept of redemption for a character like Covenant. Clearly this series was not written for them.
The effects of his seclusion and affliction become more clear later on, but often before then, half the readers out there give up (my wife included)! I suppose the author could be blamed, but OTOH, some will just not accept the concept of the protagonist being a bastard.
The thing is, Donaldson loves turnabout. I think we'd all do well to put a real rapist through what he goes through in these books. And don't forget, the consequences of this one act follow him throughout the rest of the series so if you hate him, you'll eventually get your fix.
That said, there's a lot of other stuff to like about this series - focusing on Covenant misses way too much. I loved the races (Haruchai, Waynhim/Ur-Viles, Giants), the concept of the 'Land' and health-sense, and cultures (Stonedownors/Woodhelvin/Unfettered/The Lords). There's great attention to detail and at no time did I feel betrayed by Donaldson's storyline or character decisions - even if I didn't agree with what was happening and to me, that's a major feat.
Now if only we could get him to do another three books...
Uh oh, SCOX went down a few points - must be time for more FUD!
So after reading this latest POS I realized that a minor prediction of mine had finally come true. I was just waiting for SCO to mention the 'Copyleft'. As expected, they've twisted the real meaning and left out a few important details. From Darl's statement: "The software license adopted by the GPL is called "copy left " by its authors. This is because the GPL has the effect of requiring free and open access to Linux (and other) software code and prohibits any proprietary use thereof. As a result, the GPL is exactly opposite in its effect from the "copy right " laws adopted by the US Congress and the European Union."
Uhhhmmmmm... '...prohibits any proprietary use thereof'? Alright, I call bullshit! Last I checked you can use GPL stuff any way you want FOR YOURSELF. A company could conceivably grab some GPL stuff offline, modify it for their use and not have to redistribute the source.
One thing is certain. It hasn't stopped these bastards at SCO from taking advantage of GCC or SAMBA - two GPL-based projects that have NOTHING TO DO with their so-called intellectual property. To put simply: when you distribute the binaries that you must provide the source. What's so hard to understand about this? Well... Nothing if you bother to read the GPL more closely. Darl's main focus here appeared to be intellectual property or the price or worth of software; but no where is it mentioned that one of the GPL's aims is to promote fair sharing.
It's not as if SCO/Caldera hadn't already agreed to this license in the past. As quoted from 'Airplane': "...they bought their tickets; they KNEW what they were getting into!" Unfortunately, more people are going to get sucked into buying their line of BS (and more of their worthless stock) while Darl and SCO's pack of lawyers continue planning their early retirement.
As it has been brilliantly said here before: "Gotta get me somma that SCOX!" (TM)
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So how will getting Windows XP improve this situation? I'm not being an ass, I'm serious. What's the alternative? Keep in mind, just because Lindows defaults to open root access doesn't mean AOL couldn't lock it all down as part of THEIR default image, right?
...Or leave it the hell alone as it is
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You know, as much as it pains me to say this... Uh...
I've actually started to recommend AOL to people!:O OMFG - I SAID IT!
There it is. I'm sorry. But there is some reasoning here, if you all won't mod me down as a troll first.
The main reason has to do with AOL 9's control of spyware, parental rules for Internet usage, and yes, ease of use. For some users out there this is exactly what they need. AOL's numbers aren't near as high as they used to be due to user savvy, but they do still serve a purpose. Think of all your friends/relative's computers you've had to run AdAware or Spybot on recently and you have to agree...
Even on broadband!:O Oh Shit! I just said that too!!!
Bad Dobby! Bad BAD BAD!!!:)
Hey, that reminds me! Aren't we all due..
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...for some news from SCOX anyway?
As quoted elsewhere: "Gotta get me somma that SCOX!"
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I guess what I'm talking about are OPTIONS. No, Lindows won't be for everyone either. OTOH, maybe someone would like to have a computer cost $199 instead of $299 and be willing to learn.
And what's the big dealio about Lindows defaulting root for the primary user? So what? So does XP! This can now be changed in Lindows 4.0 just as easily as creating a user in XP. Problem solved.
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I think with them shipping this with StarOffice that ARE that much closer. Word is that they already have an Linux-based distro but have been sitting on it. You would think that with their fortunes failing, this might be a good time to try a new approach. With this $299 deal, I think only MS will make any real profit.
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It IS StarOffice (with obligatory AOL logos). One step closer to an AOL-Linux release I think.
If this shipped with Lindows instead...
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...maybe they could get the price down to $199, hmmm?
Exactly correct. But there are still production hurdles to overcome. Wall Street seems clueless about a lot of tech things (like the future of SCO for instance), but they do understand reasonable risk.
When these display companies have sunk billions into R&D and plants already, the last thing they want to do is risk what they've already done.
No one wants to be the first to do it, and yet, that company will probably end up leading the revolution (when it finally comes)...
I'm sorry, I assumed most readers would use common sense first before posting.
1 Cent, huh? Give me a break. No major tech change like this will ever be funded at a break-even point. No, they will LOSE money to go to this.
Note that I didn't say that the price would ultimately be cheaper - I think it will. But saying that and having become reality are two different things.
For instance, they still haven't solved the blue LED longevity problem - one of many things that need R&D. You know, Research and Development? You think that sort of thing costs NOTHING? Please, give us all a break and do a little research before posting like that.
The largest problem with this technology isn't that it can't be done on a larger scale (it can). The problem is more financial. With all of these companies having geared up for LCD production and building huge plants while downsizing CRTs, it's unlikely that the shift to LED tech is going to happen anytime soon - no matter how cheap it is.
As always, you have to find a way to pay for the R&D that you use - even if it becomes outdated beforehand.
Oh I don't think anything STOPS. But Intel has a history of renovation rather than innovation. Much of the P4's design was to meet marketing goals rather than performance.
No doubt they'll be using.90 for the Pentium M, great. But right now, their focus appears to be getting the P4 to run faster under 95 watts.
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And you know what? It looks as though it's working. Getting their desktop act together combined with StarOffice and excellent support may help Sun out of it's doldrums after all.
I have to admit that I wasn't sold on the 'Java' desktop (whatever), but it seems that they are pushing the right buttons here.
...with version 2.0 - at least I think so. There are significant Mac OSX updates planned for that version. Right now, OOo runs as a straight Unix app on OSX - not something Sun would want to support.
Yes, I RTFA just fine thanks. That still doesn't meet my criteria - it's not near specific enough.
Did 300 baud modems connected to Compuserve in 1983 make a VAST difference in the household use of computers? Undoubtedly. Is it fair to compare it to the dot-com boom years of the Internet's privatization - no way!
Did the Amiga change the way a lot of people thought about multimedia? Well, yes, for those who saw it at the time. Many who did nonetheless compared it to a game machine - but who would even THINK about buying a 'business pc' for the home without the ability to play a great game or listen to music nowadays?
Was the Amiga's contribution to multimedia any lesser, or just a case of bad timing? A list like this is just too general to address technology that made a difference at the wrong time.
...trying to pigeonhole only a 'top 10'. Top 10 WHAT? It would be easy to ignore the contributions of 8-bit computers nowadays, but at one time there weren't many other options and each type had a specific advantage.
Hint to the writer: If you're going to do a list like this, try and be more specific.
No, but I could confidently quote anything from the movie on command. That was a nice skill to have in 5th grade. :)
When I was a kid I actually snuck a tape recorder into the theatre with me under my winter coat. Of course, back in 1977 there weren't too many other options.
It wasn't a microcassette recorder either - it was the BIG honking black Radio Shack model - the one that doubled as a data storage unit for the TRS-80. Amazing I got away with that.
Years later I could still recite pretty much the whole movie by heart. Thank God for those T-120 tapes!
SCO has raised enough issues now that to not crush them utterly would mean that there will be no legal challenge addressed for the GPL. IBM is probably a bit shaken by all this - after all, they've bet the farm on Linux and the GPL. No, they will end up fighting this to the bitter end. There should be no doubt left about the legal status of the GPL or Unix/Linux. Having those issues settled will clear the way for the comfort level of their clients.
Certainly not everything for the exec bastards and lawyers that cooked up this whole thing.
Somewhere in the Carribean an island calls to them.
Sad.
Yep. But I'm talking about the next three - The Third Chronicles of Thomas Covenant. He's talked about it before. Donaldson said that the first trilogy is themed on conflict with the adversary, the second on victory through sacrifice and the third (should it happen) will be about victory through acceptance.
Of course how he will do this now that Covenant is dead and Linden Avery has his ring is anyone's guess. On the other hand, Lord Foul once told him that 'even death will not protect you..' so maybe there's something there.
I agree 'Mouth'. I think the problem is either that Donaldson didn't fully give the reader Covenant's mental state in a way that helps explain his actions, or people refuse to empathize regardless. Some people will never believe in the concept of redemption for a character like Covenant. Clearly this series was not written for them.
The effects of his seclusion and affliction become more clear later on, but often before then, half the readers out there give up (my wife included)! I suppose the author could be blamed, but OTOH, some will just not accept the concept of the protagonist being a bastard.
The thing is, Donaldson loves turnabout. I think we'd all do well to put a real rapist through what he goes through in these books. And don't forget, the consequences of this one act follow him throughout the rest of the series so if you hate him, you'll eventually get your fix.
That said, there's a lot of other stuff to like about this series - focusing on Covenant misses way too much. I loved the races (Haruchai, Waynhim/Ur-Viles, Giants), the concept of the 'Land' and health-sense, and cultures (Stonedownors/Woodhelvin/Unfettered/The Lords). There's great attention to detail and at no time did I feel betrayed by Donaldson's storyline or character decisions - even if I didn't agree with what was happening and to me, that's a major feat.
Now if only we could get him to do another three books...
"My..... GOD!"
;)
"Shields, SHIELDS!"
"What happen?"
Someone set SCO up the bomb.
Uh oh, SCOX went down a few points - must be time for more FUD!
So after reading this latest POS I realized that a minor prediction of mine had finally come true. I was just waiting for SCO to mention the 'Copyleft'. As expected, they've twisted the real meaning and left out a few important details. From Darl's statement:
"The software license adopted by the GPL is called "copy left " by its authors. This is because the GPL has the effect of requiring free and open access to Linux (and other) software code and prohibits any proprietary use thereof. As a result, the GPL is exactly opposite in its effect from the "copy right " laws adopted by the US Congress and the European Union."
Uhhhmmmmm... '...prohibits any proprietary use thereof'? Alright, I call bullshit! Last I checked you can use GPL stuff any way you want FOR YOURSELF. A company could conceivably grab some GPL stuff offline, modify it for their use and not have to redistribute the source.
One thing is certain. It hasn't stopped these bastards at SCO from taking advantage of GCC or SAMBA - two GPL-based projects that have NOTHING TO DO with their so-called intellectual property. To put simply: when you distribute the binaries that you must provide the source. What's so hard to understand about this? Well... Nothing if you bother to read the GPL more closely. Darl's main focus here appeared to be intellectual property or the price or worth of software; but no where is it mentioned that one of the GPL's aims is to promote fair sharing.
It's not as if SCO/Caldera hadn't already agreed to this license in the past. As quoted from 'Airplane': "...they bought their tickets; they KNEW what they were getting into!" Unfortunately, more people are going to get sucked into buying their line of BS (and more of their worthless stock) while Darl and SCO's pack of lawyers continue planning their early retirement.
As it has been brilliantly said here before: "Gotta get me somma that SCOX!" (TM)
So how will getting Windows XP improve this situation? I'm not being an ass, I'm serious. What's the alternative? Keep in mind, just because Lindows defaults to open root access doesn't mean AOL couldn't lock it all down as part of THEIR default image, right?
You know, as much as it pains me to say this... Uh...
:O OMFG - I SAID IT!
:O Oh Shit! I just said that too!!!
:)
I've actually started to recommend AOL to people!
There it is. I'm sorry. But there is some reasoning here, if you all won't mod me down as a troll first.
The main reason has to do with AOL 9's control of spyware, parental rules for Internet usage, and yes, ease of use. For some users out there this is exactly what they need. AOL's numbers aren't near as high as they used to be due to user savvy, but they do still serve a purpose. Think of all your friends/relative's computers you've had to run AdAware or Spybot on recently and you have to agree...
Even on broadband!
Bad Dobby! Bad BAD BAD!!!
...for some news from SCOX anyway?
As quoted elsewhere:
"Gotta get me somma that SCOX!"
I guess what I'm talking about are OPTIONS. No, Lindows won't be for everyone either. OTOH, maybe someone would like to have a computer cost $199 instead of $299 and be willing to learn.
And what's the big dealio about Lindows defaulting root for the primary user? So what? So does XP! This can now be changed in Lindows 4.0 just as easily as creating a user in XP. Problem solved.
I think with them shipping this with StarOffice that ARE that much closer. Word is that they already have an Linux-based distro but have been sitting on it. You would think that with their fortunes failing, this might be a good time to try a new approach. With this $299 deal, I think only MS will make any real profit.
It IS StarOffice (with obligatory AOL logos). One step closer to an AOL-Linux release I think.
...maybe they could get the price down to $199, hmmm?
;)
Don't flip out on me, it was just a thought...
Exactly correct. But there are still production hurdles to overcome. Wall Street seems clueless about a lot of tech things (like the future of SCO for instance), but they do understand reasonable risk.
When these display companies have sunk billions into R&D and plants already, the last thing they want to do is risk what they've already done.
No one wants to be the first to do it, and yet, that company will probably end up leading the revolution (when it finally comes)...
I'm sorry, I assumed most readers would use common sense first before posting.
1 Cent, huh? Give me a break. No major tech change like this will ever be funded at a break-even point. No, they will LOSE money to go to this.
Note that I didn't say that the price would ultimately be cheaper - I think it will. But saying that and having become reality are two different things.
For instance, they still haven't solved the blue LED longevity problem - one of many things that need R&D. You know, Research and Development? You think that sort of thing costs NOTHING? Please, give us all a break and do a little research before posting like that.
The largest problem with this technology isn't that it can't be done on a larger scale (it can). The problem is more financial. With all of these companies having geared up for LCD production and building huge plants while downsizing CRTs, it's unlikely that the shift to LED tech is going to happen anytime soon - no matter how cheap it is.
As always, you have to find a way to pay for the R&D that you use - even if it becomes outdated beforehand.
Perhaps a Bluetooth/Wi-Fi multiplayer interface could be created? It'd be worth trying to play M.U.L.E. multiplayer on this thing.
Actually, the Tapwave already uses Bluetooth for multiplayer games so this has already been done!
Er.. My Tungsten T1 has a 144 MHz OMAP (ARM compatible) processor. Just loaded Frodo up and it's GREAT!
Now for that Atari 800xl / Amiga emulator... Hmmm...
Maybe a small Linux distro too (he asks, hopefully).
Oh I don't think anything STOPS. But Intel has a history of renovation rather than innovation. Much of the P4's design was to meet marketing goals rather than performance.
.90 for the Pentium M, great. But right now, their focus appears to be getting the P4 to run faster under 95 watts.
No doubt they'll be using