So, your 911 call doesn't exactly have traditional 911 priority, you don't speak to an operator who has your name,address and phone number on her screen, and they won't know where to send the police if your call gets disconnected.
You must realize that if you have a telephone jack in your house you may dial 911. 911 is a public service and requires NO telephone company. So why would you use Vonage to dial 911 when you can from a local land line for free???
First of all, this is a proposal; so everyone can quite referring to it as a "law"
Secondly, consider the applications: A website may now be created that denies all rights of access to it; it never gives explicit rights for anyone to view it, or it may explicitly deny access. Those who break the law are able to access pr0n, WAREZ, and MuZic; however, the webmaster may not be prosecuted because all of the content cannot be accessed.
I bet they would have fun with that one! Let the lawyer fees roll . ..
It would seem wiser to support a solution that favors the best tool for the job, which may not always be an open source product.
Wow. Get off the phone with the Microsoft rep. What mainstream category of software doesn't have an OpenSource counterpart. I say mainstream because I don't think the government of Brazil is going to be the next Pixar. They don't need some super-specialized software! OpenOffice or MS Office --damn what's the best tool for the job. Let's see they do the same damn thing. I should buy MS Office though, because it is the "best tool for the job." I'm sure the people of Brazil are glad you're not in charge cowboy. I'm not trolling here, just leave your unsupported flamebait comment out of the post; it has taken over the discussion here.
More importantly, they will be saving money. There's no way around that for them. They'll also feel less pressured by a company that's interest are far from theirs--the one's that are selling the "best tool for the job" crap like there's no alternative that wouldn't work just as well.
Ah well, just my two cents worth. They're using the BEST tool, they just stopped asking MS what the BEST(tm) tool is.
I think everyone is missing something more important than blocking P2P networks. How about blocking SPYWARE clients (gator, cydoor, et. al.). I've blocked their ip address, but they simply use a different one. What about blocking THOSE packets because of their contents, because of their security risk. That seems like a much more worthwhile goal to me.
The hardware problem is Dell's fault. Not in your case with the DLink NIC, but with the hardware THEY sell. Everything made for them is made to certain specifications-- you're not getting the retail equivalent!
Michael Dell wants CHEAP hardware, and he gets it, at a cost to his cutstomers. Much like FORD has done lately, they've been trying so damn hard to save a nickel they're losing customers left and right because of producing poor quality (of course now they're trying to drastically change all that).
To your last comment: I've been the statistic you're talking about. 6 times out of 30 Dell machines. 20% failure. So the percentage matters when you're buying more than one machine.
Why can't you install Mozilla on a couple of shares and update them. It doesn't have to be on a local machine, and most internal networks remain fairly idle. (The other 60+mbps not being using by an external source.)
On a very different note: these machines are running Windows, right? Why the security concern over IE?
I understand, but the average user doesn't block ads, and doesn't know how. That will probably change, but I also believe ads will be perfected and they'll be more like commercials--less interruptive. Hence, less people will have the desire to change them.
Everything can be copied--some things more easily than others--but that doesn't mean the producer should actively stop copying. Example: If I fax my buddy a cartoon that I think they'll find funny have I done something wrong? Alternatively, if I copy and paste it from the website where I found it--is that wrong?
News/Adspace, isn't so ridiculous that everyone is trying their hardest to protect it.
I don't think Newspapers are going to be too worried about that type of thing. You can redistribute it all you want, if the ad is still in place, they'd probably be thrilled. Besides most people link before the copy-paste the whole damned thing.
Please don't push DRM, not over this, not before it is even a problem.
First of all, segregating the population in any way by age is discriminatory, and therefore ignorant.
No, it's a demographic with a blazingly obvious trend.
Would you like the blonde or the brunette? --Oh, sorry, that's a question that demands you to be discriminatory--how dare I force you to discern something! You must be ignorant. --C'mon that line of thinking makes all statistical analysis somehow emotional, which is inconceivably ridiculous.
The elderly are not necessarily slow to adopt technology which meets their needs - keep in mind that the generation that we describe as the 'elderly' invented the computer, television, modern radio, etc etc.
The elderly ARE slow to adopt technology, they're slow to adopt everything. You're single scenario means nothing. So you mean HIS grandmother helped create the PC??? Just because it happened within a niche in a generation, means that didn't happen in every part of the generation (btw: it would have been a generation about 15 years younger, unless you're thinking PCs as we know them existed in the 60s and 70s-- suggesting a steeper learning curve at around 30 (1970-1940)--oh no I calculated her Date of birth, I'm just being discriminatory now!--.).
My own 75-yr old grandmother . ..
As I said before when everyone becomes the aformentioned 60 year old grandmother or your grandmother then you have a case. Until then, the demographics, as they exist point toward younger generations to be largests users of computer and electronic devices in GENERAL.
You put it beautifully! When I get home from work I don't wanna look at my computer. I always work on it during the weekends, and just play around, otherwise, I'd rather just relax and be without many machines.
Then again, the last time I played a game it was on SNES console!
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Next question . . .
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Erm, no. Sorry.
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$smarty style
You must realize that if you have a telephone jack in your house you may dial 911. 911 is a public service and requires NO telephone company. So why would you use Vonage to dial 911 when you can from a local land line for free???
Another profession lost to technology?
That is what the umpires are afraid of, and who can blame them.
It'd be just a matter of time before all umpires are digital, if this is not at least questioned.
First of all, this is a proposal; so everyone can quite referring to it as a "law"
Secondly, consider the applications: A website may now be created that denies all rights of access to it; it never gives explicit rights for anyone to view it, or it may explicitly deny access. Those who break the law are able to access pr0n, WAREZ, and MuZic; however, the webmaster may not be prosecuted because all of the content cannot be accessed .
I bet they would have fun with that one! Let the lawyer fees roll . . .
Wow. Get off the phone with the Microsoft rep. What mainstream category of software doesn't have an OpenSource counterpart. I say mainstream because I don't think the government of Brazil is going to be the next Pixar. They don't need some super-specialized software! OpenOffice or MS Office --damn what's the best tool for the job. Let's see they do the same damn thing. I should buy MS Office though, because it is the "best tool for the job." I'm sure the people of Brazil are glad you're not in charge cowboy. I'm not trolling here, just leave your unsupported flamebait comment out of the post; it has taken over the discussion here.
More importantly, they will be saving money. There's no way around that for them. They'll also feel less pressured by a company that's interest are far from theirs--the one's that are selling the "best tool for the job" crap like there's no alternative that wouldn't work just as well.
Ah well, just my two cents worth. They're using the BEST tool, they just stopped asking MS what the BEST(tm) tool is.
I use it, and I have to be told. . . (by you, right now)
You: C'mon XML is GREAT!
Me :No it's NOT!
You: C'mon XML is GREAT!
Me :No it's NOT!
You: C'mon XML is GREAT!
Me :No it's NOT!
You: C'mon XML is GREAT!
Me :No it's NOT!
Me :See . . . THERE!
Hah! Your a Tcl (tickle) guy!
Dozen, I wish! more like 98. Anyway it'll be done, in an hour or so.
A light CHEAP laptop: Lindows Mobile PC. That's what I'm taking, along with a powerful desktop of course.
Oh, whoops. Misunderstood
Or they just wouldn't install the module.
Yeah, that'd pretty well make sense.
I think everyone is missing something more important than blocking P2P networks. How about blocking SPYWARE clients (gator, cydoor, et. al.). I've blocked their ip address, but they simply use a different one. What about blocking THOSE packets because of their contents, because of their security risk. That seems like a much more worthwhile goal to me.
The hardware problem is Dell's fault. Not in your case with the DLink NIC, but with the hardware THEY sell. Everything made for them is made to certain specifications-- you're not getting the retail equivalent!
Michael Dell wants CHEAP hardware, and he gets it, at a cost to his cutstomers. Much like FORD has done lately, they've been trying so damn hard to save a nickel they're losing customers left and right because of producing poor quality (of course now they're trying to drastically change all that).
To your last comment: I've been the statistic you're talking about. 6 times out of 30 Dell machines. 20% failure. So the percentage matters when you're buying more than one machine.
Why can't you install Mozilla on a couple of shares and update them. It doesn't have to be on a local machine, and most internal networks remain fairly idle. (The other 60+mbps not being using by an external source.)
On a very different note: these machines are running Windows, right? Why the security concern over IE?
This coming from someone with a Salon.com article in their signature. Are you sure you know what good journalism is? Let alone the best journalism!
How the hell am I supposed to read it in the john?
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I know, I know, show me pictures of the iHole ( *iRoll* (read: eye-roll) ). Until I have a connected bathroom this paper is not going anywhere!
And I could read this too, ooo, fun fun.
I understand, but the average user doesn't block ads, and doesn't know how. That will probably change, but I also believe ads will be perfected and they'll be more like commercials--less interruptive. Hence, less people will have the desire to change them.
Everything can be copied--some things more easily than others--but that doesn't mean the producer should actively stop copying. Example: If I fax my buddy a cartoon that I think they'll find funny have I done something wrong? Alternatively, if I copy and paste it from the website where I found it--is that wrong?
News/Adspace, isn't so ridiculous that everyone is trying their hardest to protect it.
I don't think Newspapers are going to be too worried about that type of thing. You can redistribute it all you want, if the ad is still in place, they'd probably be thrilled. Besides most people link before the copy-paste the whole damned thing.
Please don't push DRM, not over this, not before it is even a problem.
No, it's a demographic with a blazingly obvious trend.
Would you like the blonde or the brunette? --Oh, sorry, that's a question that demands you to be discriminatory--how dare I force you to discern something! You must be ignorant. --C'mon that line of thinking makes all statistical analysis somehow emotional, which is inconceivably ridiculous.
The elderly ARE slow to adopt technology, they're slow to adopt everything. You're single scenario means nothing. So you mean HIS grandmother helped create the PC??? Just because it happened within a niche in a generation, means that didn't happen in every part of the generation (btw: it would have been a generation about 15 years younger, unless you're thinking PCs as we know them existed in the 60s and 70s-- suggesting a steeper learning curve at around 30 (1970-1940)--oh no I calculated her Date of birth, I'm just being discriminatory now!--.).
As I said before when everyone becomes the aformentioned 60 year old grandmother or your grandmother then you have a case. Until then, the demographics, as they exist point toward younger generations to be largests users of computer and electronic devices in GENERAL.
Next time warn me that face was going to be staring at me if I clicked the link. God block images from server Mozilla, BLOCK, BLOCK NOW!
WARNING Link NOT safe!
Ahem,
When I am able to have any degree of privacy (short of living in a bomb shelter) would someone please notify me--contact information below.
Roger Hammond
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Tucson, AZ 8546
U.S.A.
Phone:(520)791-4544
Fax: (520)791-4124
Email: rhammond64@excite.com
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My Server: rhammond.org
I also post here quite often.
Thank you,
R.E.G. [good thing I didn't tell 'em my middle name]
FEARLESS AND STUPID
You put it beautifully! When I get home from work I don't wanna look at my computer. I always work on it during the weekends, and just play around, otherwise, I'd rather just relax and be without many machines.
Then again, the last time I played a game it was on SNES console!
I've never heard of anyone but geeks playing it. And how does one define "geek".
These guys seem like a bunch of geeks to me.
Is privoxy stripping the code? Or does WINE not want you to use privoxy on their site? or both???
Anyway, I'm having the same problems
Fun site: Circle of Legends