"You're wrong on this count. You're not making it appear faster; you really are making it faster"
Sorry I have to agree with b17bmbr. The preloading in my experience is generally done after the user logs in and generally slows the PC (OK, more noticable on old hardware) to a _crawl_ during first minute or so of computer use as the user tries in vain to launch whatever application they wish to use first whilst a batch of other programs (pre-loading apps and in windows all those startup folder items) load.
I would much prefer to have a responsive computer when I gain control after the desktop loading and allow myself a few seconds to look away from the monitor (as every god computer user should...) and relax a little while the wordprocessor loads.
However the article states that they believe that Linksys have removed code that they have _statically_ linked to the kernel. If they were modules they would be _dynamically_ linked.
They have modified the kernel to allow it to work with there closed drivers but not provided the changes to the kernel. They do not need to provide code for the module/userspace code, they _do_ need to provide the changes to the kernel.
The GPL allows you charge a fee to cover distribution costs of the software. The GPL states that a copy of the source code must be available to those that have recieved the software binaries from you, it does not say that a copy of the code must be made availible for free (however only a distribution fee maybe charged). It could be argued that the cost of the Boxed SCO Linux set covered this fee in advance.
If you haven't bought SCO Linux (and therefore paying for the distribution costs) they don't have to provide you with the source code, hence this disclaimer and leading to nothing gained from downloading the kernel source.
However, SCO do not have th right to re-licence GPLed software as they are attempting to do. There attempts to keep the parts of the kernel secret that are appartently infringing there IP, in order to extort money is an awful act, and I hope that the courts see it whis way.
A better way of doing this would be to find someone who had bought SCO Linux as, under the GPL, they would have the right to distribute the code however they saw fit.
Please note: I hate SCO for what they are doing, but I don't see how downloading the source from SCO gives anyone an any more valid right to use the Linux kernel in _their_ eyes.
The simple answer is in the welcome.msg file on the root directory of ftp.sco.com:
Welcome to SCO's FTP site!
This site hosts UNIX software patches, device drivers and supplements from SCO.
To access Skunkware and Supplemental Open Source Packages, please connect to ftp2.caldera.com.
** Please read the following export notice ** Please note that the electronic transfer of this data to a destination outside of the United States constitutes an export (as defined by the U.S. Bureau of Export Administration) and is authorized ONLY to the end user. Any subsequent re-exportation of this data requires that the end user obtain an additional export license. Also note that it is illegal to re-route Caldera product to Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan or Syria and that you must file a special license if you intend to re-route goods to the embargoed regions of Serbia or the Taliban controlled areas of Afghanistan. Placement of this order constitutes an agreement to comply with these stipulations.
NOTICE: SCO has suspended new sales and distribution of SCO Linux until the intellectual property issues surrounding Linux are resolved. SCO will, however, continue to support existing SCO Linux and Caldera OpenLinux customers consistent with existing contractual obligations. SCO offers at no extra charge to its existing Linux customers a SCO UNIX IP license for their use of prior SCO or Caldera distributions of Linux in binary format. The license also covers binary use of support updates distributed to them by SCO. This SCO license balances SCO's need to enforce its intellectual property rights against the practical needs of existing customers in the marketplace.
The Linux rpms available on SCO's ftp site are offered for download to existing customers of SCO Linux, Caldera OpenLinux or SCO UnixWare with LKP, in order to honor SCO's support obligations to such customers.
I think that this phenomenon has been put down to global warming.
During the ice age scotland was covered by a _thick_ layer of ice and the weight of this pushed it down, causing the tectonic plate the UK is a part of to tilt. The lost of all this ice over the last few million years has caused the plate to start pivoting back.
This combined with the slowly rising sea level is what has caused this effect.
The weight of the buildings are more than likely negledgable compared to the overall weight of the techtonic plate.
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Ok, I've been on the piss-up all night, so I'm not in the best frame of mind to be contemplating this, but isn't this a form of internet demonstration?
Physical Demonstration - Loads of people walking slowly down a road bringing traffic to a near stand still.
DDOS attack - even if it is a little crude, brings traffic to the affected site to a near stand still...
In some ways this could be seen as an extension of currently given rights. If anything this should be seen as bringing the perceived problem into persective. There are a lot of people fairly pissed as SCO and they now know about it.
Anyway, it is more likely to be some wannabe script kiddie that got a load of windows boxes to DDOS there site, which is fairly ironic!!
You only read the first article and no further huh?
From the link in the article:
The PC version of Doom III was running all over the QuakeCon floor on 2.3GHz Pentium 4 systems equipped with ATI's next-gen Radeon 9700 card. However, Carmack commented that the game was designed more for the GeForce2 generation of cards and will likely require a 1GHz machine at the very least.
So the XBox's graphics engine will probably (unfortunately) be sufficient and the processor no doubt will be able to cope once the code has been stream-lined especially for the XBox architecture.
However I will be more interested as to whether there will be a Linux port.
The transition to KDE/Gnome is much steeper of a learning curve
much - How? The learning curve from ms Office to say, Star Office; eudora to evolution, ie to mozilla.
Ms Office to Star Office - OK, reasonable learning curve for those that use "advanced features", but not that much harder than re-learning how to do a mail-merge on word xp rather than word 6, on a Correctly configured system. They are likely to get a course on it either way.
Eudora to Evolution - easier than the office part. Those that used the calendar in something like outlook, will need a little more hand holding - won't the company get tax relief for "investing in people" (UK) or something.
IE to Mozilla - I've had plenty of complete technophobes sit down at my PC and use Mozilla instead of IE and not know. Tell then to click on the red star/dinosaur rather than the "E" (I don't know which is worse a red star or and E...)
I would suggest the biggest problem will be in the Tech department, training/replacing the techs so that the opensource stuff is sufficiently wired down so as not to be a problem.
However, given that the desktops are running 95, may I guess that they would probably have to invest in new hardware to run XP and by moving over the a x-teminal opensource based solution they could probably build the back end servers, test them and then migrate people over one at a time by reformating there existing PC's as X-terms cheaper and in a comparable timeframe?
Ok, I see your point, but I also see a few that you have missed.
Gentoo - It allows you to control almost _exactly_ whats on your computer, it can be compiled explicitly for your processor type increasing performance and Package update due to security risks and updates are easy to install and appear very soon after the new release or patch. I know as I jumped from Mandrake to Gentoo with very few problems. It uses a packaging system a little like Debians crossed with Ports from BSD.
Debian - Targeted at servers, where stability and security are far more important than whether 3D acceleration is supported. A lot of the packages marked as unstable are probably those packages that are installed as part of distributions such as Redhat, but Debian's maintainers do not feel they have been sufficiently field tested yet.
FreeBSD - Never used it so I can't comment.
One of the reasons why I switched to Linux was because settings were made in text files. Given good guides (by which I mean those like the gentoo installation guide]) It isn't too difficult given patience (a skill I wanted to learn when moving to Linux) and the wish to _learn_. I find the major distributions a little wired - they are getting to the state where the default config files are completely ignored (RH7.3 wireless for example) making it near impossble to configure without the graphical front-ends given generic HOWTO's, which I feel is a great shame.
Yes of course the Tivo is very closed.
That's why they use the Linux PowerPC Kernel and supply the moded source code on request and for download. I haven't investigated to much further, but this looks like some of their software aswell.
I must back down on my rather generalised statement and admit my obvious lack of indepth knowledge...
I must admit that I didn't think of some of these issues. It would make sense to get more info from the bios (it's there, why not at least use it as a starting point to work out what is in the system), I suppose with the rising use of Linux there maybe a chance some MBoard companies maybe a little more helpful with information (should it be required). We can always hope, anyway it's no skin of their nose if the OS running on the board is Linux rather than windows, the lower cost of the OS may increase sales...
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"You're wrong on this count. You're not making it appear faster; you really are making it faster"
Sorry I have to agree with b17bmbr. The preloading in my experience is generally done after the user logs in and generally slows the PC (OK, more noticable on old hardware) to a _crawl_ during first minute or so of computer use as the user tries in vain to launch whatever application they wish to use first whilst a batch of other programs (pre-loading apps and in windows all those startup folder items) load.
I would much prefer to have a responsive computer when I gain control after the desktop loading and allow myself a few seconds to look away from the monitor (as every god computer user should...) and relax a little while the wordprocessor loads.
However the article states that they believe that Linksys have removed code that they have _statically_ linked to the kernel. If they were modules they would be _dynamically_ linked.
They have modified the kernel to allow it to work with there closed drivers but not provided the changes to the kernel. They do not need to provide code for the module/userspace code, they _do_ need to provide the changes to the kernel.
Finnally some one hits the nail on the head.
I don't see how this is a violation of the GPL.
The GPL allows you charge a fee to cover distribution costs of the software. The GPL states that a copy of the source code must be available to those that have recieved the software binaries from you, it does not say that a copy of the code must be made availible for free (however only a distribution fee maybe charged). It could be argued that the cost of the Boxed SCO Linux set covered this fee in advance.
If you haven't bought SCO Linux (and therefore paying for the distribution costs) they don't have to provide you with the source code, hence this disclaimer and leading to nothing gained from downloading the kernel source.
However, SCO do not have th right to re-licence GPLed software as they are attempting to do. There attempts to keep the parts of the kernel secret that are appartently infringing there IP, in order to extort money is an awful act, and I hope that the courts see it whis way.
A better way of doing this would be to find someone who had bought SCO Linux as, under the GPL, they would have the right to distribute the code however they saw fit.
Please note: I hate SCO for what they are doing, but I don't see how downloading the source from SCO gives anyone an any more valid right to use the Linux kernel in _their_ eyes.
The simple answer is in the welcome.msg file on the root directory of ftp.sco.com:
Welcome to SCO's FTP site!
This site hosts UNIX software patches, device drivers and supplements
from SCO.
To access Skunkware and Supplemental Open Source Packages, please
connect to ftp2.caldera.com.
** Please read the following export notice **
Please note that the electronic transfer of this data to a destination
outside of the United States constitutes an export (as defined by the
U.S. Bureau of Export Administration) and is authorized ONLY to the end
user. Any subsequent re-exportation of this data requires that the end
user obtain an additional export license. Also note that it is illegal
to re-route Caldera product to Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea,
Sudan or Syria and that you must file a special license if you intend
to re-route goods to the embargoed regions of Serbia or the Taliban
controlled areas of Afghanistan. Placement of this order constitutes
an agreement to comply with these stipulations.
NOTICE: SCO has suspended new sales and distribution of SCO Linux until
the intellectual property issues surrounding Linux are resolved. SCO will,
however, continue to support existing SCO Linux and Caldera OpenLinux
customers consistent with existing contractual obligations. SCO offers at
no extra charge to its existing Linux customers a SCO UNIX IP license for
their use of prior SCO or Caldera distributions of Linux in binary
format. The license also covers binary use of support updates distributed
to them by SCO. This SCO license balances SCO's need to enforce its
intellectual property rights against the practical needs of existing
customers in the marketplace.
The Linux rpms available on SCO's ftp site are offered for download to
existing customers of SCO Linux, Caldera OpenLinux or SCO UnixWare with
LKP, in order to honor SCO's support obligations to such customers.
Looks like they have this base covered
The world is a close aproximation of a sphere, hence it all depends where you take your plane of reference to lie.
If you take your plane of reference to run through London, everything is down from it.
I think that this phenomenon has been put down to global warming.
During the ice age scotland was covered by a _thick_ layer of ice and the weight of this pushed it down, causing the tectonic plate the UK is a part of to tilt. The lost of all this ice over the last few million years has caused the plate to start pivoting back.
This combined with the slowly rising sea level is what has caused this effect.
The weight of the buildings are more than likely negledgable compared to the overall weight of the techtonic plate.
You'd think that wouldn't you?
This says otherwise!
Ok, I've been on the piss-up all night, so I'm not in the best frame of mind to be contemplating this, but isn't this a form of internet demonstration?
Physical Demonstration - Loads of people walking slowly down a road bringing traffic to a near stand still.
DDOS attack - even if it is a little crude, brings traffic to the affected site to a near stand still...
In some ways this could be seen as an extension of currently given rights. If anything this should be seen as bringing the perceived problem into persective. There are a lot of people fairly pissed as SCO and they now know about it.
Anyway, it is more likely to be some wannabe script kiddie that got a load of windows boxes to DDOS there site, which is fairly ironic!!
Ok, if it doesn't matter:
user@computer# firebird
Question: what do I get - a browser or a database?
That's a problem and if I had them installed I would care.
Already taken for an open sourced browser, look on freshmeat:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/salamander/
As hard as it is to change the name to something good, it's still wrong to poach and calling the browser firebird is poaching.
Or at least be a dead 'ard penguin.
Preferably with something sharp and dangerous at long range...
You only read the first article and no further huh?
From the link in the article:
The PC version of Doom III was running all over the QuakeCon floor on 2.3GHz Pentium 4 systems equipped with ATI's next-gen Radeon 9700 card. However, Carmack commented that the game was designed more for the GeForce2 generation of cards and will likely require a 1GHz machine at the very least.
So the XBox's graphics engine will probably (unfortunately) be sufficient and the processor no doubt will be able to cope once the code has been stream-lined especially for the XBox architecture.
However I will be more interested as to whether there will be a Linux port.
Abuse departments cost money
So does the bandwidth wasted on spam.
Or a new virus which came through the firewall attached to an email, etc, which _also_ attacked using this exploit...
Ahhh, but generally we don't constantly chide every single move they make.
Of which there is a simple answer:
Neither fit the glass properly - find something else.
The transition to KDE/Gnome is much steeper of a learning curve
much - How? The learning curve from ms Office to say, Star Office; eudora to evolution, ie to mozilla.
Ms Office to Star Office - OK, reasonable learning curve for those that use "advanced features", but not that much harder than re-learning how to do a mail-merge on word xp rather than word 6, on a Correctly configured system. They are likely to get a course on it either way.
Eudora to Evolution - easier than the office part. Those that used the calendar in something like outlook, will need a little more hand holding - won't the company get tax relief for "investing in people" (UK) or something.
IE to Mozilla - I've had plenty of complete technophobes sit down at my PC and use Mozilla instead of IE and not know. Tell then to click on the red star/dinosaur rather than the "E" (I don't know which is worse a red star or and E...)
I would suggest the biggest problem will be in the Tech department, training/replacing the techs so that the opensource stuff is sufficiently wired down so as not to be a problem.
However, given that the desktops are running 95, may I guess that they would probably have to invest in new hardware to run XP and by moving over the a x-teminal opensource based solution they could probably build the back end servers, test them and then migrate people over one at a time by reformating there existing PC's as X-terms cheaper and in a comparable timeframe?
So, no spark plugs or heating coil?
Ok, I see your point, but I also see a few that you have missed.
Gentoo - It allows you to control almost _exactly_ whats on your computer, it can be compiled explicitly for your processor type increasing performance and Package update due to security risks and updates are easy to install and appear very soon after the new release or patch. I know as I jumped from Mandrake to Gentoo with very few problems. It uses a packaging system a little like Debians crossed with Ports from BSD.
Debian - Targeted at servers, where stability and security are far more important than whether 3D acceleration is supported. A lot of the packages marked as unstable are probably those packages that are installed as part of distributions such as Redhat, but Debian's maintainers do not feel they have been sufficiently field tested yet.
FreeBSD - Never used it so I can't comment.
One of the reasons why I switched to Linux was because settings were made in text files. Given good guides (by which I mean those like the gentoo installation guide]) It isn't too difficult given patience (a skill I wanted to learn when moving to Linux) and the wish to _learn_. I find the major distributions a little wired - they are getting to the state where the default config files are completely ignored (RH7.3 wireless for example) making it near impossble to configure without the graphical front-ends given generic HOWTO's, which I feel is a great shame.
Yes of course the Tivo is very closed. That's why they use the Linux PowerPC Kernel and supply the moded source code on request and for download. I haven't investigated to much further, but this looks like some of their software aswell.
Tell me about it. Well atleast my dad gets a free modem connection (Free-Call number as well - UK), but it stiffles any play time I have!
How about:
"It was him"?
Hint KS...
So whys IBM doing so much with Linux?
I must back down on my rather generalised statement and admit my obvious lack of indepth knowledge...
I must admit that I didn't think of some of these issues. It would make sense to get more info from the bios (it's there, why not at least use it as a starting point to work out what is in the system), I suppose with the rising use of Linux there maybe a chance some MBoard companies maybe a little more helpful with information (should it be required). We can always hope, anyway it's no skin of their nose if the OS running on the board is Linux rather than windows, the lower cost of the OS may increase sales...