On the night of August 7th/8th, Saakashvili launched an operation to "restore constitutional order" in South Ossetia. He started by bombing the crap out of Tskhinvali using Grad rocket launchers, resulting in hundreds of dead Ossetian civilians (1500 according to Ossetian and Russian numbers). Why wasn't there an outcry over their deaths in the western media? Whenever the Ossetian death toll was called it was qualified as unconfirmed. However, when a Russian plane missed a military target on August 9th and 5 Georgian civilians died in Gori it was all over the news.
Perhaps it's best to avoid name calling, and re-evaluate the reasoning behind your prejudiced attitude towards Russians. They aren't the bad guys every time you know.
I sure did. Yeah, I wonder how many extraterastrial patents the humanity is infringing so far? And what will we do when they ask us to cease and desist?
I hated 10.1 as well, and stuck with 9.3 for most of the time, than upgraded to 10.0 for the last 2 months before 10.2 came out. I am running 10.2 on all of my machines now and I don't have much to complain about. There is 1 kernel issue with my 32bit TV cards not working because my x86_64 system has 4GB RAM, but that's not SuSEs fault, it's a driver problem, and I already filed a bug for it in the novell bugzilla.
Anyway, I don't think openSUSE 10.2 sucks as much as you claim it does. It's at least as good as 10.0.
It's strange to hear you say that KDE doesn't use exceptions -- that's the first time I hear of it. Do they disable exception handling at compile time in their libraries? I uses exceptions all the time in my multi-threaded Qt based code -- works great. Are you sure this isn't a distribution/packaging/build-time issue?
Where I would like to see you improve -- Please, Please Please implement support for OSX style application bundles -- it would make it so much easier for me easier to make easily distributable packages for you if you would support them.
Don't pay attention to the clueless dorks who are suggesting that you should switch everything from C++ to something else, use GTK libs or reimplement everything to be a GUI front end to CLI commands -- those are incredibly bad ideas. You are pretty much perfect the way you are (especially on openSUSE). Next steps should be to make yourself more accessible for non-core Qt/KDE developers. Adding support for a flexible packaging scheme like the bundles used on OSX would go a long way towards that.
For FFT you should use www.fftw.org. Also, for image processing in C++ www.itk.org can be very helpful (even if it's just for file io). Coincidentally, I've implemented SIFT myself for an automated image stacking application used to reassemble a volume of Electron Transmission Microscopy images.
I've had a similar experience with opensuse 10.1 upgrade. I was hoping they would fix the minor annoyances that bugged me in 10.0 -- no support for legacy NVIDIA chipset driver (GeForce 256, GeForce 2, etc..) -- I was hoping for too much apparently.
The first nasty surprise was the replacement of susewatcher -- zen-updater took its place. I am a KDE user, and it made no sense to me that a KDE oriented desktop distribution would commit the major blunder of replacing a working Qt application with a half-baked gtk alternative that sticks out like a sore thumb under KDE.
YaST Online Update didn't work. I had to use zen-updater but that hasn't worked for me yet either. I was able to get the updates by going into YaST software management and manually setting the installed packages to update (I had to scroll through the entire list of installed packages and find all the blue ones).
Oh, and to add to the frustration beagle was running in background grinding the harddrive and making my old P3-550MHz crawl even slower.
So, SuSE 10.1 has regressed on the following points: 1. Broken package management. 2. The new GTK package manager looks like a turd under KDE. 3. Installing closed source NVIDIA drivers for legacy cards (GeForce 2) is an excercise in patching both the nvidia driver and the SuSE install (device files have to be created by hand,/etc/modprobe.d/nvidia has to be removed).
So, after updating 2 PCs to 10.1 I ended up downgrading one PC to SuSE 10. I decided not to upgrade my server from SuSE 9.3. The one remaining PC that still has SuSE 10.1 on it will be used to test Kubuntu 6.06 this weekend. If what I've seen in SuSE 10.1 is any indication of where Novell is heading, I will probably move to Kubuntu.
My limited knowledge of English usually allows me communication while avoiding ambiguities such as the one being discussed here. As evidenced by the score of my post, a lot of people are either unaware that "to usurp" may be used to mean "to surpass", or agree with me that "to surpass" would have been a better verb to use in this case.
Thank you for your non-hostile attitude while putting me back in my place. I've seen a similar argument from AveryT below, you can read my reply to him if you care.
You may be technically correct, but if you consider that a language is primarily a means of communication of information, "to surpass" fulfills this role much better than "to usurp" - there is no second guessing involved.
Concise and unambiguous communication method is the superior communication method for technical/business information. Save the metaphors for poems and fancy novels.
I swear I meant to write "way" instead of "away". Ain't it funny - I try to correct someones English and end up making mistakes myself. Oh well, it was good for a laugh.
My native tongue is Russian, but even I know that Usurps is not the correct verb to use in that sentence. According to m-w.com, to usurp is "to take possession of without legal claim" - not the same as to surpass a competitor in one away or another.
It's not a full version, you won't get the full SuSE experience for a LiveCD. In particular you won't experience YaST in its full glory. Downloading a live CD is a waste of time and bandwidth, better spent on knoppix.
You'll either have to find someone nearby who would be willing to let you borrow their SuSE 9.3 CDs, or you'll have to order the distribution yourself (not cheap). Your other option is to wait for the FTP release (usually happens half way between releases) and download the DVD iso, mount it, extract it to somewhere on the harddrive and try to install from that (what a pain). Forget about CD isos - SuSE doesn't make those. This option is still better than compiling from source RPMS.
So, if you want to try SuSE, your best bet is to find a friend that owns a copy. Otherwise be ready to spend anywhere between $60 (student or update version) to $100 (regular). It might be cheaper to by a DVD burner at this price point, at least it won't be obsolete 6 months later.
I moved to the US (from Russia) about 10 years ago with my parents and my sister. Even my 45 year old mother enjoys DS9. And so does my younger sister. DS9 had by far the most interesting story line of all the Star Trek TV series. Great actors too.
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There is VLC
There is CMake
There is my project -- https://sourceforge.net/projec...
There is Sorenson Squeeze -- http://www.sorensonmedia.com/s...
I am sure there are others
Reuters video of Georgian troops firing Grad rockets at Tskhinvali: http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=88607&videoChannel=1
Why are you calling Russians bastards?
On the night of August 7th/8th, Saakashvili launched an operation to "restore constitutional order" in South Ossetia. He started by bombing the crap out of Tskhinvali using Grad rocket launchers, resulting in hundreds of dead Ossetian civilians (1500 according to Ossetian and Russian numbers). Why wasn't there an outcry over their deaths in the western media? Whenever the Ossetian death toll was called it was qualified as unconfirmed. However, when a Russian plane missed a military target on August 9th and 5 Georgian civilians died in Gori it was all over the news.
Perhaps it's best to avoid name calling, and re-evaluate the reasoning behind your prejudiced attitude towards Russians. They aren't the bad guys every time you know.
Hi Bryan,
Were you and James able to make the changes you wanted to ir-tweak? I haven't heard anything back since you asked Tolga for OSX build instructions.
Paul.
I sure did. Yeah, I wonder how many extraterastrial patents the humanity is infringing so far? And what will we do when they ask us to cease and desist?
I hated 10.1 as well, and stuck with 9.3 for most of the time, than upgraded to 10.0 for the last 2 months before 10.2 came out. I am running 10.2 on all of my machines now and I don't have much to complain about. There is 1 kernel issue with my 32bit TV cards not working because my x86_64 system has 4GB RAM, but that's not SuSEs fault, it's a driver problem, and I already filed a bug for it in the novell bugzilla.
Anyway, I don't think openSUSE 10.2 sucks as much as you claim it does. It's at least as good as 10.0.
Paul.
It's strange to hear you say that KDE doesn't use exceptions -- that's the first time I hear of it. Do they disable exception handling at compile time in their libraries? I uses exceptions all the time in my multi-threaded Qt based code -- works great. Are you sure this isn't a distribution/packaging/build-time issue?
Paul.
Happy Birthday KDE! I love you!
Where I would like to see you improve -- Please, Please Please implement support for OSX style application bundles -- it would make it so much easier for me easier to make easily distributable packages for you if you would support them.
Don't pay attention to the clueless dorks who are suggesting that you should switch everything from C++ to something else, use GTK libs or reimplement everything to be a GUI front end to CLI commands -- those are incredibly bad ideas. You are pretty much perfect the way you are (especially on openSUSE). Next steps should be to make yourself more accessible for non-core Qt/KDE developers. Adding support for a flexible packaging scheme like the bundles used on OSX would go a long way towards that.
Paul.
For FFT you should use www.fftw.org. Also, for image processing in C++ www.itk.org can be very helpful (even if it's just for file io). Coincidentally, I've implemented SIFT myself for an automated image stacking application used to reassemble a volume of Electron Transmission Microscopy images.
I've had a similar experience with opensuse 10.1 upgrade. I was hoping they would fix the minor annoyances that bugged me in 10.0 -- no support for legacy NVIDIA chipset driver (GeForce 256, GeForce 2, etc..) -- I was hoping for too much apparently.
/etc/modprobe.d/nvidia has to be removed).
The first nasty surprise was the replacement of susewatcher -- zen-updater took its place. I am a KDE user, and it made no sense to me that a KDE oriented desktop distribution would commit the major blunder of replacing a working Qt application with a half-baked gtk alternative that sticks out like a sore thumb under KDE.
YaST Online Update didn't work. I had to use zen-updater but that hasn't worked for me yet either. I was able to get the updates by going into YaST software management and manually setting the installed packages to update (I had to scroll through the entire list of installed packages and find all the blue ones).
Oh, and to add to the frustration beagle was running in background grinding the harddrive and making my old P3-550MHz crawl even slower.
So, SuSE 10.1 has regressed on the following points:
1. Broken package management.
2. The new GTK package manager looks like a turd under KDE.
3. Installing closed source NVIDIA drivers for legacy cards (GeForce 2) is an excercise in patching both the nvidia driver and the SuSE install (device files have to be created by hand,
So, after updating 2 PCs to 10.1 I ended up downgrading one PC to SuSE 10. I decided not to upgrade my server from SuSE 9.3. The one remaining PC that still has SuSE 10.1 on it will be used to test Kubuntu 6.06 this weekend. If what I've seen in SuSE 10.1 is any indication of where Novell is heading, I will probably move to Kubuntu.
Paul.
I wasn't sure who Lysenko was, so I did a search on google and this turned up:
http://www.comms.dcu.ie/sheehanh/lysenko.htm
It's a very interesting article.
Paul.
Unless you've tried both JuK and amaroK and found them both lacking, you can not claim that there are no music "jukeboxes" on Linux.
Paul.
Qt programs are absolutely true C++ programs. If you don't want to use moc, you can write by hand all of the code that moc would generate for you.
Paul.
My limited knowledge of English usually allows me communication while avoiding ambiguities such as the one being discussed here. As evidenced by the score of my post, a lot of people are either unaware that "to usurp" may be used to mean "to surpass", or agree with me that "to surpass" would have been a better verb to use in this case.
Paul.
Thank you for your non-hostile attitude while putting me back in my place. I've seen a similar argument from AveryT below, you can read my reply to him if you care.
Paul.
You may be technically correct, but if you consider that a language is primarily a means of communication of information, "to surpass" fulfills this role much better than "to usurp" - there is no second guessing involved.
Concise and unambiguous communication method is the superior communication method for technical/business information. Save the metaphors for poems and fancy novels.
Paul.
I swear I meant to write "way" instead of "away". Ain't it funny - I try to correct someones English and end up making mistakes myself. Oh well, it was good for a laugh.
Paul.
My native tongue is Russian, but even I know that Usurps is not the correct verb to use in that sentence. According to m-w.com, to usurp is "to take possession of without legal claim" - not the same as to surpass a competitor in one away or another.
Learn your language!
Paul.
Another lame attempt at a joke ;-)
It's not a full version, you won't get the full SuSE experience for a LiveCD. In particular you won't experience YaST in its full glory. Downloading a live CD is a waste of time and bandwidth, better spent on knoppix.
You'll either have to find someone nearby who would be willing to let you borrow their SuSE 9.3 CDs, or you'll have to order the distribution yourself (not cheap). Your other option is to wait for the FTP release (usually happens half way between releases) and download the DVD iso, mount it, extract it to somewhere on the harddrive and try to install from that (what a pain). Forget about CD isos - SuSE doesn't make those. This option is still better than compiling from source RPMS.
So, if you want to try SuSE, your best bet is to find a friend that owns a copy. Otherwise be ready to spend anywhere between $60 (student or update version) to $100 (regular). It might be cheaper to by a DVD burner at this price point, at least it won't be obsolete 6 months later.
Paul.
You are welkome
It's not clan or klan. It's klean ;-)
Blasphemy!
I moved to the US (from Russia) about 10 years ago with my parents and my sister. Even my 45 year old mother enjoys DS9. And so does my younger sister. DS9 had by far the most interesting story line of all the Star Trek TV series. Great actors too.
Paul.
You'd have a better chance at spotting an Mi-26.
. st m5 .st m
One was shot down killing over 100 people on board.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2205199
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/220450
Paul.