i would like to see that...... i really would. especially since the gov't is more likely than not acting in the best intrests of its citizens.
Microsuck is just being a bunch of stuborn assholes, they could very easily use the mac osx hebrew libraries. but they prefer to cripple office for mac by writting some half assed butcher job to implement hebrew. this obviously pissed of the isreali gov't since their native language is hebrew.
they will end up using openoffice/star office, because it already supports hebrew, and they wont suffer from MS's bullshit lock in/overpricing problems.
yeah the india tech might be able to do it for 1/6th, but on average the india techs take 6 people to do the job of 1 american. not to mention property costs in places like mumbai cost just as much has boston and LA.
americans are the most productive employees in the world. its a fact. you can try to offshore jobs all you want, but despite what management thinks not everyone needs to kiss their ass or be passive about everything. its that kind of thinking that leads to disgruntled and unproductive employees. and kills creativity. management is the most mindless and useless bunch of people on the planet, they should be the ones who are outsourced.
actually the.bomb era was caused by PHB with MBA's thinking anything on the "interweb" was going to make them bajillionaires, so they called up there buddies with MBA's+$$ (also known has venture capatalists) and got them to over-invest in EVERY SINGLE FREAKIN THING that came out having to do with the "interweb".
geeks might have been the ones getting paid 80k/year to write html, but PHB's were the ones making millions for coming up with a name for a website, and overspending on half assed ideas.
i hate to break you the news but thats not an american specific thing, EVERY country has the EXACT same opinion on this topic.
The fact is most countries have open economies.
Not really. most countries dont even have industrialized economies, and for the FEW that do not many of the larger ones have open economies.
Typical American. Have you considered that the rest of the world will get along fine without you?
Wanna bet ? i know its all fashionable to bash the US and all but who is going to lead if not the US ? what other nation would spur the global economy the way the US does ? (the US has almost twice the spending per person than the second highest nation)
american (greedy) corporations would suffer. but the american populous wouldnt. the whole reason we got into this mess was the american corporations thinking they needed more customers, and hence pushing for leniency in trading with other countries. it worked. now its bitting them in the ass.
and just to emphasize my point: The US has a deficit because they consume more than they produce. and that money goes where ? to other countries you say ?....
Your job will come back when all nations are equally rich, or all nations are equally poor, and thus share a common economy.
so basically americans are supposed to support other countries ? get a fucking grip pal. if india or russia or china cannot support themselves to_damn_bad its not an american issue to help by driving our economy into shit.
you can claim there is nothing that can be done to stop it, and thats also a load of bullshit, its going to be really amusing in the next few years to watch the unemployment rate skyrocket, and then the american public will demand action, and if the US gov't takes action by legislating outsourced labor who is going to stop it ? the WTO ? please, they need americans and their spend it all mentality more than americans need the WTO.
just give it a few more years until the stink from the bottom rises to the top.
and i would also point out that paying someone in mexico or india does NOT help the world economy unless they are paid enough to spend money on goods and services from other locations. which they are not.
this is the equivlant of improving your sight by going deaf.
And todays humor is brought to us by Paraniod suburbanites, who dont think before they act.
In the Spiffy town of "Oak Park" a few peon.... err parents have decieded to sue the local school district over the usage of a Wi-Fi network in the schools. The reason is unclear has to why they would sue the schools yet still have some wonderful things around the home that are far more damaging Such as:
Think about it, exactly how harmfu.... err helpful could parents like these be.......
I can see it now. the children are forbidden from eating any foods that have preservatives. wearing any clothing that is not 100% organic material. They cannot play outside because dirt may contain BADDDDD things, like toxic waste.
and then of course there is this additional wonderful factiod: "the radio waves in a Wi-Fi network use the same frequency as wireless home phones, and have one-thirtieth the power of cordless phones"
hhmmmmmm, sounds to me like these parents had better lock there children in a sterile room, there be dangerous things out there.... there are even bad things in the air...... maybe they should take up a class action lawsuit against The_almighty_ (TM) for allowing cancer/aids/picksomethingbad ?
i agree. but if there are terrorist attacks constantly*^ then people will grow tired of hearing about it, and change the channel. hence causing the media to cover something else.
*= say one attack every month or two.
^= i would also assume that based on that level of frequency they would be smaller attacks than 9/11. ie a car bomb.
i am not endorsing the attacks nor condemning them anymore so than bush's bullshit wars.
give it a few more years. after the average US citizen starts being noticably effected by these (stupid) laws.
and give it a few more years with no more major terrorist attacks (or alot of attacks) and the american public (hopefully) wont be so happy-go-lucky about endorsing things labeled as "security" or "defense" or.... "patriot" "consumer" etc.....
the scary part is the stupid laws are starting to trickle over to the EU.... (see: software patents)
that all depends on how you think the english language should be used. but like i said i never professed to be an english expert.
i deal with brits, aussies, africans, japanese on a daily basis as part of my job. they dont change their dialect to satisfy me anymore than i change my dialect to satisfy them. and i wouldnt want them to, that would be destroying their culture which is bad.
just like i wont stop using the word hacker in its original context. that would be destroying the hacker culture. and i refuse to do that, no matter what the lemmings on CNN say.
preach all you want. mainframes supposedly died 20 some years ago. to bad they still run alot of critical systems. and there were never "low rent" replacements for mainframes, there were servers made by "low rent" companies like DEC that replaced the old mainframes from IBM. but a PDP still costed millions of dollars, as does a sunfire 10k or 15k now.
If there is enough money to be made, someone will do it.
well first and formost is the fact that the high end server market is worth billions per quarter. second is the fact that 32bit systems cannot replace 64 bit systems effectively. and im not going to argue over chip design or system deseign especially not with someone who thinks intel hardware can go enterprise. the plain fact of the matter is that systems from companies like sun were engineered to be the best possible at what they do. and they have been building them like that for a decade. Intel has tried to go into the enterprise arena, they got shutdown and laughed at (itanium.). commodity hardware has its place, in your desktop. on small servers. not in the enterprise. companies like dell, microsoft etc... have been trying to surpass Sun, IBM, HP etc for years.... software wise Linux stands a good chance of surpassing unix in 5 years. hardware wise i dont see anything close to surpassing sparc, alpha, mips, or power based systems. at least not without some serious re-designing.
To the average man on the street, "hacker" is synonymous with "computer criminal". And when the average man on the street says "hacker" to you, you probably think he means "computer criminal" even as you're itching to correct him.
your assuming i wont ask him what he means by the word "hacker" and then correct him. I have no issue with making sure people have the oppurtunity to be more well informed. if they choose to disregard that information so be it, thats their choice. i choose to use the word the way it was meant to be used.
and i hate to break the news to you but just because australians and brits use the word "chips" in a different meaning doesnt mean that burger king is going to ask if you want chips with your whopper. thats not how this works, despite what the monoculture blind media wants.
mainstream american culture doesnt control everything despite how much some people would like it to, as such i will continue using the word as it was meant to be used. and correcting all those whom use it incorrectly. much to the ire of some.
your right. the real world doesnt have time to care about what a word means. which is why there are organizations like the NAACP, GLADD etc that fight bicker and protest over word meanings. and ass-wipe degenerate fucksticks like you who think your superior because you know code, nah your too busy to worry about the meaning of the word.
funny you found time to write that post being that your so busy. halfwit.
actually if you want to get into specifics anything mid-range or higher uses ECC ddr these days. and ECC ram might be cheap compared to what it used to be, but it is not commodity. look up the definition of commodity:
a mass-produced unspecialized product <commodity chemicals> <commodity memory chips>
that flys in the face of the very definition of enterprise grade systems and what they HAVE to accomplish. nobody invests the kind of money into shitty x86 systems that would be needed to make something fault tolerant, or have hot swapable CPU's, Motherboard etc....
sorry. some low-rent CIO's and windows people might like the idea of having a PC handle their oracle DB backend. that doesnt mean its likely to happen in the next 10 years for anyone that currently runs big-iron.
think of it like this. the military doesnt buy ford tauruses to drive around a war zone does it ? nope. why ? it cant handle the demands. this is the same principal.
they already have partnerships with AMD and Intel. they have for almost a year. the problem is no Intel or AMD system can even touch the high end that Sun specializes in. lets not forget Sun still has a few billion in the bank and has over 30,000 employees worldwide..... they are not a small company. they actually dwarf alot of "bigger" companies with respect to size.
Wine will not help Linux because the overhead from wine will deter the very people it would attract. Sun's Linux desktop project is released sometime later this month, if that takes of then everything is moot. if that flops it will be the begining of the end. either way Sun is going to be going thru some major changes is the next few years.
i hope you know that the only way "commodity" hardware will replace anything Sun sells is when commodity hardware stops being commodity. the people that run Sun servers arent joe blow and the local porn shop, they are large companies like banks, insurance firms, research labs and the like. in other words they are people who buy a server for 1 million and a support contract for 2 million. why ? because they cannot afford downtime. at all. ever.
and intel hardware amd hardware et all suck ass compared to Sun hardware in life expectancy, and overall performance.
x86 and x86-64 have a LOOOONNGGG way to go if they want to surpass Sun, and thats not even taking into account if Sun ever releases ultraSparc4. which if they do will change the market. again.
then i would question what kind of IT people you have been hanging around. could these be the same IT people who were making 85k/year during the.com boom for knowing html ? i would think so since even some of the most commercial hackers still use the word with reverance.
i dont care what self indulgent metro-sexual wanna-be half assed geeks consider the word to mean, and i dont care what the media thinks it means. but it pisses me off when some self annioted geek/hacker/coder whatever says they know what it means and then goes against 50 years of usage because of what the idiot box told them.
wait you mean all hackers arent evil terrorists who write windows worms ? and you dont all talk like l33t d00dz ? wow ! culture shock ! </sarcasm> </humor> </mocking><BR><BR>
the usage of hacker never evolved. it was adopted by people who did not understand it, try to understand it or care about what it really meant.
hacker by the media definition means "person who did a bad thing with a computer that we dont understand". its a media buzzword. that is NOT evolution any more than 3l33t sp32k is. and that is not evolution it is a specific group of people using phrases, mispellings or (gag!) using words however they please without regards to the meaning, i dont profess to be an english major but there are limits to what i will listen to without correcting people.
its like me calling a traffic jam "highway slashdoting" or somesuch cruft.
if tiger is the top golfer, and there is some fictional "swordfish" type hacker out there who is the equivalent then a script kiddie is not equal to a golfer, he is equal to a 10yr old who likes playing putt-putt.
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i would like to see that ...... i really would. especially since the gov't is more likely than not acting in the best intrests of its citizens.
Microsuck is just being a bunch of stuborn assholes, they could very easily use the mac osx hebrew libraries. but they prefer to cripple office for mac by writting some half assed butcher job to implement hebrew. this obviously pissed of the isreali gov't since their native language is hebrew.
they will end up using openoffice/star office, because it already supports hebrew, and they wont suffer from MS's bullshit lock in/overpricing problems.
i agree completely.
......
but isnt it the PHB's job to weed out shitty ideas ? and steer the company correctly ? and invest money wisely ?
or was that only their job prior to the whole SCO fiasco
so if you have no idea what im talking about how can you call me a liar ? why dont you do yourself a favor and do some Research first.
and dont assume shit, it makes you look like a moron.
yeah the india tech might be able to do it for 1/6th, but on average the india techs take 6 people to do the job of 1 american. not to mention property costs in places like mumbai cost just as much has boston and LA.
americans are the most productive employees in the world. its a fact. you can try to offshore jobs all you want, but despite what management thinks not everyone needs to kiss their ass or be passive about everything. its that kind of thinking that leads to disgruntled and unproductive employees. and kills creativity. management is the most mindless and useless bunch of people on the planet, they should be the ones who are outsourced.
actually the .bomb era was caused by PHB with MBA's thinking anything on the "interweb" was going to make them bajillionaires, so they called up there buddies with MBA's+$$ (also known has venture capatalists) and got them to over-invest in EVERY SINGLE FREAKIN THING that came out having to do with the "interweb".
geeks might have been the ones getting paid 80k/year to write html, but PHB's were the ones making millions for coming up with a name for a website, and overspending on half assed ideas.
So basically what your saying is that you work for SCO ?
Im sorry. If you want i'll help you look for a job.
Just because it affects you you don't like it.
....
i hate to break you the news but thats not an american specific thing, EVERY country has the EXACT same opinion on this topic.
The fact is most countries have open economies.
Not really. most countries dont even have industrialized economies, and for the FEW that do not many of the larger ones have open economies.
Typical American. Have you considered that the rest of the world will get along fine without you?
Wanna bet ? i know its all fashionable to bash the US and all but who is going to lead if not the US ? what other nation would spur the global economy the way the US does ? (the US has almost twice the spending per person than the second highest nation)
american (greedy) corporations would suffer. but the american populous wouldnt. the whole reason we got into this mess was the american corporations thinking they needed more customers, and hence pushing for leniency in trading with other countries. it worked. now its bitting them in the ass.
and just to emphasize my point: The US has a deficit because they consume more than they produce. and that money goes where ? to other countries you say ?
Your job will come back when all nations are equally rich, or all nations are equally poor, and thus share a common economy.
so basically americans are supposed to support other countries ? get a fucking grip pal. if india or russia or china cannot support themselves to_damn_bad its not an american issue to help by driving our economy into shit.
you can claim there is nothing that can be done to stop it, and thats also a load of bullshit, its going to be really amusing in the next few years to watch the unemployment rate skyrocket, and then the american public will demand action, and if the US gov't takes action by legislating outsourced labor who is going to stop it ? the WTO ? please, they need americans and their spend it all mentality more than americans need the WTO.
just give it a few more years until the stink from the bottom rises to the top.
and i would also point out that paying someone in mexico or india does NOT help the world economy unless they are paid enough to spend money on goods and services from other locations. which they are not.
this is the equivlant of improving your sight by going deaf.
And todays humor is brought to us by Paraniod suburbanites, who dont think before they act.
.... err helpful could parents like these be .......
.... there are even bad things in the air ...... maybe they should take up a class action lawsuit against The_almighty_ (TM) for allowing cancer/aids/picksomethingbad ?
In the Spiffy town of "Oak Park" a few peon.... err parents have decieded to sue the local school district over the usage of a Wi-Fi network in the schools. The reason is unclear has to why they would sue the schools yet still have some wonderful things around the home that are far more damaging Such as:
1. Cell phones
2. Microwaves
3. TV. its eviillll
4. Themselves.
Think about it, exactly how harmfu
I can see it now. the children are forbidden from eating any foods that have preservatives. wearing any clothing that is not 100% organic material. They cannot play outside because dirt may contain BADDDDD things, like toxic waste.
and then of course there is this additional wonderful factiod: "the radio waves in a Wi-Fi network use the same frequency as wireless home phones, and have one-thirtieth the power of cordless phones"
hhmmmmmm, sounds to me like these parents had better lock there children in a sterile room, there be dangerous things out there
i agree. but if there are terrorist attacks constantly*^ then people will grow tired of hearing about it, and change the channel. hence causing the media to cover something else.
*= say one attack every month or two.
^= i would also assume that based on that level of frequency they would be smaller attacks than 9/11. ie a car bomb.
i am not endorsing the attacks nor condemning them anymore so than bush's bullshit wars.
give it a few more years. after the average US citizen starts being noticably effected by these (stupid) laws.
.... "patriot" "consumer" etc .....
.... (see: software patents)
and give it a few more years with no more major terrorist attacks (or alot of attacks) and the american public (hopefully) wont be so happy-go-lucky about endorsing things labeled as "security" or "defense" or
the scary part is the stupid laws are starting to trickle over to the EU
that all depends on how you think the english language should be used. but like i said i never professed to be an english expert.
i deal with brits, aussies, africans, japanese on a daily basis as part of my job. they dont change their dialect to satisfy me anymore than i change my dialect to satisfy them. and i wouldnt want them to, that would be destroying their culture which is bad.
just like i wont stop using the word hacker in its original context. that would be destroying the hacker culture. and i refuse to do that, no matter what the lemmings on CNN say.
preach all you want. mainframes supposedly died 20 some years ago. to bad they still run alot of critical systems. and there were never "low rent" replacements for mainframes, there were servers made by "low rent" companies like DEC that replaced the old mainframes from IBM. but a PDP still costed millions of dollars, as does a sunfire 10k or 15k now.
.... software wise Linux stands a good chance of surpassing unix in 5 years. hardware wise i dont see anything close to surpassing sparc, alpha, mips, or power based systems. at least not without some serious re-designing.
If there is enough money to be made, someone will do it.
well first and formost is the fact that the high end server market is worth billions per quarter. second is the fact that 32bit systems cannot replace 64 bit systems effectively. and im not going to argue over chip design or system deseign especially not with someone who thinks intel hardware can go enterprise. the plain fact of the matter is that systems from companies like sun were engineered to be the best possible at what they do. and they have been building them like that for a decade. Intel has tried to go into the enterprise arena, they got shutdown and laughed at (itanium.). commodity hardware has its place, in your desktop. on small servers. not in the enterprise. companies like dell, microsoft etc... have been trying to surpass Sun, IBM, HP etc for years
To the average man on the street, "hacker" is synonymous with "computer criminal". And when the average man on the street says "hacker" to you, you probably think he means "computer criminal" even as you're itching to correct him.
your assuming i wont ask him what he means by the word "hacker" and then correct him. I have no issue with making sure people have the oppurtunity to be more well informed. if they choose to disregard that information so be it, thats their choice. i choose to use the word the way it was meant to be used.
and i hate to break the news to you but just because australians and brits use the word "chips" in a different meaning doesnt mean that burger king is going to ask if you want chips with your whopper. thats not how this works, despite what the monoculture blind media wants.
mainstream american culture doesnt control everything despite how much some people would like it to, as such i will continue using the word as it was meant to be used. and correcting all those whom use it incorrectly. much to the ire of some.
your right. the real world doesnt have time to care about what a word means. which is why there are organizations like the NAACP, GLADD etc that fight bicker and protest over word meanings. and ass-wipe degenerate fucksticks like you who think your superior because you know code, nah your too busy to worry about the meaning of the word.
funny you found time to write that post being that your so busy. halfwit.
that flys in the face of the very definition of enterprise grade systems and what they HAVE to accomplish. nobody invests the kind of money into shitty x86 systems that would be needed to make something fault tolerant, or have hot swapable CPU's, Motherboard etc....
sorry. some low-rent CIO's and windows people might like the idea of having a PC handle their oracle DB backend. that doesnt mean its likely to happen in the next 10 years for anyone that currently runs big-iron.
think of it like this. the military doesnt buy ford tauruses to drive around a war zone does it ? nope. why ? it cant handle the demands. this is the same principal.
they already have partnerships with AMD and Intel. they have for almost a year. the problem is no Intel or AMD system can even touch the high end that Sun specializes in. lets not forget Sun still has a few billion in the bank and has over 30,000 employees worldwide ..... they are not a small company. they actually dwarf alot of "bigger" companies with respect to size.
Wine will not help Linux because the overhead from wine will deter the very people it would attract. Sun's Linux desktop project is released sometime later this month, if that takes of then everything is moot. if that flops it will be the begining of the end. either way Sun is going to be going thru some major changes is the next few years.
i hope you know that the only way "commodity" hardware will replace anything Sun sells is when commodity hardware stops being commodity. the people that run Sun servers arent joe blow and the local porn shop, they are large companies like banks, insurance firms, research labs and the like. in other words they are people who buy a server for 1 million and a support contract for 2 million. why ? because they cannot afford downtime. at all. ever.
and intel hardware amd hardware et all suck ass compared to Sun hardware in life expectancy, and overall performance.
x86 and x86-64 have a LOOOONNGGG way to go if they want to surpass Sun, and thats not even taking into account if Sun ever releases ultraSparc4. which if they do will change the market. again.
now that was amusing. if i may make a mockery of the situation and butcher english even further ..... You Go Girl !!!
(PS i will never use that phrase again.)
then i would question what kind of IT people you have been hanging around. could these be the same IT people who were making 85k/year during the .com boom for knowing html ? i would think so since even some of the most commercial hackers still use the word with reverance.
i dont care what self indulgent metro-sexual wanna-be half assed geeks consider the word to mean, and i dont care what the media thinks it means. but it pisses me off when some self annioted geek/hacker/coder whatever says they know what it means and then goes against 50 years of usage because of what the idiot box told them.
wait you mean all hackers arent evil terrorists who write windows worms ? and you dont all talk like l33t d00dz ? wow ! culture shock ! </sarcasm> </humor> </mocking><BR><BR>
the usage of hacker never evolved. it was adopted by people who did not understand it, try to understand it or care about what it really meant.
hacker by the media definition means "person who did a bad thing with a computer that we dont understand". its a media buzzword. that is NOT evolution any more than 3l33t sp32k is. and that is not evolution it is a specific group of people using phrases, mispellings or (gag!) using words however they please without regards to the meaning, i dont profess to be an english major but there are limits to what i will listen to without correcting people.
its like me calling a traffic jam "highway slashdoting" or somesuch cruft.
if tiger is the top golfer, and there is some fictional "swordfish" type hacker out there who is the equivalent then a script kiddie is not equal to a golfer, he is equal to a 10yr old who likes playing putt-putt.
mod parent down for being flamebait.
your lucky i blew my modpoints earlier otherwise youd be digging your ass out of karma pugatory.
Do you even know what your talking about ?
He has to be convicted first you jackass.
..... so i might be a little touchy on the subject.
not to mention colorado has much worse sentencing for sex crimes than the average.
and im a lakers fan