As if there weren't enough virii on the planet already, we have to go making more. Umm... as far as I understand, this wasn't a "new virus", but merely a clone developed from scratch.
The days of "The Customer is Always Right" are long gone. Only these days only existed for retail chains. It has never been the mentality of utilities/service providers.
So let's examine this particular change (for that is what it is,
not just some random 'error'). We are interested in trying to give some
sort of explanation for why this pronunciation might have arisen in the
first place, since, as you point out, it is quite common. [Never mind
what your grammar school teacher told you about 'quite' -- it now means
'very', at least in America.] Obviously, the word 'nuclear' is composed
of at least two parts: 'nucle-' and '-ar'. The second is a predictable
variant of '-al' after a Romance stem which contains an 'l', often at the
end of the stem: scale - scalar. Note that the stem may be an
independent word, as in the last example. Now, when we add -al/ar to a
word or stem, certain changes regularly take place. If the stem ends in
a consonant plus 'l', a vowel is inserted before the 'l': carbuncle/karbunkl/ - carbuncular, circle/sirkl/ - circular, etc. What appears
to have happened here is that instead of a rather strange stem/nukli/,
where the insertion of the 'u' would not take place since the 'l' is not
at the end of the stem, the stem has been reformed by a process similar
to 'folk etymology', and we end up with the stem/nukl/, which will quite
naturally give us 'nucular', just like 'circular'.
In general in English, when a word has an unusual structure in
one way or another, and especially if it is fairly common, it tends to
get restructured so as to make it more like other common words in the
language. Some aspects of this process are what we call 'folk
etymology'.
Stressing is mine. The full text can be found here So, it seems, this pronunciation isn't just some random combination of sounds. It is an attempt to homogenize the english language. Go fucking figure.
Did everyone throw such a fit when Eisenhower pronounced it this way? I doubt it. Just because George W. is an idiot doesn't mean *every* word he says is wrong.
does this require us to accept 'nucleus' and 'nuculus' as interchangable words?
Are bow and bough interchangable? (can you say "-1 offtopic"? Sure you can!) Go fuck yourself. Now that's not only *on* topic, but highly relevant.
I can't believe a dictionary is condoning "correct pronunciation optional" Are there *no* standards to which anyone is held to today?
Apparently, you don't need to use proper punctuation.
Jokes aside, I would like to know what you consider to be a standard and how you propose a standard is defined, especially when considering an issue as hotly debated as pronunciation. Which geographic region has precedence? Which country? Which social class? Which discipline?
Let's not forget that the authority granted to any compendium of pronunciation arised precisely because this was what was in common use. Though, of course, common use was influenced by a variety of factors itself, such as: homogeneity within the language, etymology, ease of pronunciation, etc.
You can have a great set of policies that are very sound but wear the wrong tie and you'll lose a few million people.
You know, a sound policy is only *one* factor that should guide your vote, because "policies" are often faked by a candidate just so they may be elected. Does anyone remember when Bush (as a candidate) said he didn't believe in "nation building" or military intervention? Ha.
Anyways, my point is that individual queries won't need to have the pages parsed on the fly as google is *already* (as in now, today, as I am typing this) preparsing pages. You seemed to have suggested otherwise.
Nice. It's a quote from Monty Python flying circus. So fuck off.
Muffin: (sarcastically) Any clues, eh? Oh, we don't half talk posh, don't we? I suppose you say 'ehnvelope' and 'larngerie' and 'sarndwiches on the settee'! Well this is a murder investigation, young man, and murder is a very serious business.
Doctor: I thought you said it was a burglary.
Muffin: Burglary is almost as serious a business as murder. Some burglaries are more serious than murder. A burglary in which someone gets stabbled is murder! So don't come these petty distinctions with me. You're as bad as a judge. Right, now! The first thing to do in the event of a breach of the peace of any kind, is to... go... (pause) and... oh, sorry, sorry, I was miles away.
Doctor: Ring the police?
Muffin: Ring the police. Yes, that's a good idea. Get them over here fast... no, on second thoughts, get them over here slowly, so they don't drop anything.
check out http://www.docweasel.com/members/05/tv/02/2211murd er.html , asshole.
It's *not* a matter of American, or laziness. People don't revolt until they have *nothing more to lose*. Look at how much the Russians put up with throughout 19th and early 20th century before they revolted.
by using an int data type, you can still suffer from roll-over. Make that an unsigned int, and you *may* begin to understand what the parent poster was getting at.
I don't think you caught what I was saying. You said: "*speaking* from SCO's *eyes*". It would be better to say "speaking from SCO's perspective". Technically, what you said was a mixed metaphor, and a rather disturbing one at that.
As Luskin is a public figure, to sue atrios, his lawyers will have to not only show negligence of fact, but also that actual malice was intended.
Now, as usual, IANAL, but I'm questioning how atrios can be held accountable for *other* posters' comments, especially when considering the demands of proving actual malice.
by privately I mean alone (as an entity, not necessarily an individual person). I see there's a bit of an ambiguity there that may lead to a contradiction with commercial.
which in this day and age REQUIRES private transportation.. Well, transportation at any rate. Hell, let *no one* except those with special commercial permits drive privately... and finally we'll have a decent public transportatin system.
If I thought that IP laws were anything other than a farcical set of laws purchased by these companies for their own express benefit, and if I though that there was anything that the everyman could do in the face of the big money that drove creation of these laws, then I might be more respectful of them.
I don't think that this can be stressed enough. This really is the heart of the matter, couple with the de facto monopoly of distribution. I find it telling that copyright originated in England primarily as a way to control distribution (and thus allow for easier censorship).
There is somethings of a precedent being set here. I personally, am finding it increasingly acceptable to disurpt the distribution channels of these corporations (whether or not it does me any direct good). It is because I feel so entirely powerless in the face of these corporations. I have no voice. My life and what I might be exposed to is controlled by a few big players whose only interest is to control my purchasing (and incidentally my life).
So what if it's illegal? so what if it's wrong? The world is getting fucked and you're going to have to do some unsavory things if that's going to change. Disrupting social order is never pretty.
Of course, these issues go way beyond the current war of the public vs. ??AA.
This will probably come across as total trolling/flamebait, but honestly, my life has changed since I downloaded Kazaa lite. Being exposed to the likes of Alice & John Coltrane, Paul Lansky, Robert Wyatt, Stockhausen, Can, Silver Apples (Simeon),Godspeed You! Black Emperor, etc. has change the way I think (some of my current fav's). How am I supposed to hear the music of my culture (or even know what it is), when all that is played on the radio is pop shit? Am I damned because I live in the MidWest (property of Clear Channel) and don't know any music geeks?
here's a serious question: Does anyone know of any (civil disobediance) organizations in the Kansas City area who are looking for members? I know there's the EFF, but the only thing I can to do help them is donate money (of which I have *none* since I am a poor college student scraping by for meals). Besides, this is a larger issue than digital IP and I fear the EFF is too focused (though they do many great things).
(BTW, I'm nearing sixty years old and I still think that "Clueless" is a great film. Even though it seems that the younger that people are, the more embarrassed to admit that they've seen or liked it.)
I don't like Jane Austin, but if I *did* like Jane Austin, I'd read frickin' Jane Austin, not watch some cheesy derivative of Jane Austin's Emma like Clueless.
Look, after repeating 100 times that we need to "see the second law" [of thermodynamics] you point is not any clearer than the first time you said it. So, please, spare us.
No one is suggesting that hydrogen be used as an energy source. Merely an energy transport. It is a way of disentangling the end use of energy from the source. This is what will allow us to throw off or dependency on oil as soon as we decide an alternate energy *source* is cheaper.
Apparently, though, flexibility is a Bad Thing.
There's no such thing as a free lunch. You can't win. You can only break even. Oh yeah, and you can't break even.
Fortunately, we have a very rich parent (the Sun) that keeps on throwing money at us. Or have you forgotten where all that energy stored in oil came from in the first place?
The first (and last) of these popup's I received informed me that the only way I could get rid of those popup's was to go to some website and install some software. Well, I promptly googled for a solution, found how to disable Windows Messenger Service, and haven't dealt with it since.
I'm sure if I did as they suggested it would have been something like a popup blocker coupled with a keylogger--of course, that's assuming it wasn't *entirely* malicicious and would actually install a popup blocker.
As has been pointed out many times, but obviously not enough, this is not a patent issue. This is an issue about a company breaking contract by failing to pay for it's contracted work.
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As if there weren't enough virii on the planet already, we have to go making more. Umm... as far as I understand, this wasn't a "new virus", but merely a clone developed from scratch.
The days of "The Customer is Always Right" are long gone. Only these days only existed for retail chains. It has never been the mentality of utilities/service providers.
So let's examine this particular change (for that is what it is, not just some random 'error'). We are interested in trying to give some sort of explanation for why this pronunciation might have arisen in the first place, since, as you point out, it is quite common. [Never mind what your grammar school teacher told you about 'quite' -- it now means 'very', at least in America.] Obviously, the word 'nuclear' is composed of at least two parts: 'nucle-' and '-ar'. The second is a predictable variant of '-al' after a Romance stem which contains an 'l', often at the end of the stem: scale - scalar. Note that the stem may be an independent word, as in the last example. Now, when we add -al/ar to a word or stem, certain changes regularly take place. If the stem ends in a consonant plus 'l', a vowel is inserted before the 'l': carbuncle /karbunkl/ - carbuncular, circle /sirkl/ - circular, etc. What appears
to have happened here is that instead of a rather strange stem /nukli/,
where the insertion of the 'u' would not take place since the 'l' is not
at the end of the stem, the stem has been reformed by a process similar
to 'folk etymology', and we end up with the stem /nukl/, which will quite
naturally give us 'nucular', just like 'circular'.
In general in English, when a word has an unusual structure in
one way or another, and especially if it is fairly common, it tends to
get restructured so as to make it more like other common words in the
language. Some aspects of this process are what we call 'folk
etymology'.
Stressing is mine. The full text can be found here So, it seems, this pronunciation isn't just some random combination of sounds. It is an attempt to homogenize the english language. Go fucking figure.
Did everyone throw such a fit when Eisenhower pronounced it this way? I doubt it. Just because George W. is an idiot doesn't mean *every* word he says is wrong.
does this require us to accept 'nucleus' and 'nuculus' as interchangable words?
Are bow and bough interchangable? (can you say "-1 offtopic"? Sure you can!) Go fuck yourself. Now that's not only *on* topic, but highly relevant.
Dictionaries are *normative*, and don't you forget it.
Apparently, you don't need to use proper punctuation.
Jokes aside, I would like to know what you consider to be a standard and how you propose a standard is defined, especially when considering an issue as hotly debated as pronunciation. Which geographic region has precedence? Which country? Which social class? Which discipline?
Let's not forget that the authority granted to any compendium of pronunciation arised precisely because this was what was in common use. Though, of course, common use was influenced by a variety of factors itself, such as: homogeneity within the language, etymology, ease of pronunciation, etc.
You know, a sound policy is only *one* factor that should guide your vote, because "policies" are often faked by a candidate just so they may be elected. Does anyone remember when Bush (as a candidate) said he didn't believe in "nation building" or military intervention? Ha.
Anyways, my point is that individual queries won't need to have the pages parsed on the fly as google is *already* (as in now, today, as I am typing this) preparsing pages. You seemed to have suggested otherwise.
Nice. It's a quote from Monty Python flying circus. So fuck off.
... oh, sorry, sorry, I was miles away.
d er.html , asshole.
Muffin: (sarcastically) Any clues, eh? Oh, we don't half talk posh, don't we? I suppose you say 'ehnvelope' and 'larngerie' and 'sarndwiches on the settee'! Well this is a murder investigation, young man, and murder is a very serious business.
Doctor: I thought you said it was a burglary.
Muffin: Burglary is almost as serious a business as murder. Some burglaries are more serious than murder. A burglary in which someone gets stabbled is murder! So don't come these petty distinctions with me. You're as bad as a judge. Right, now! The first thing to do in the event of a breach of the peace of any kind, is to... go... (pause) and
Doctor: Ring the police?
Muffin: Ring the police. Yes, that's a good idea. Get them over here fast... no, on second thoughts, get them over here slowly, so they don't drop anything.
check out http://www.docweasel.com/members/05/tv/02/2211mur
You think google searches the net every time you click that little search button? They'd just preparse the pages and store the results in a database.
It's *not* a matter of American, or laziness. People don't revolt until they have *nothing more to lose*. Look at how much the Russians put up with throughout 19th and early 20th century before they revolted.
by using an int data type, you can still suffer from roll-over. Make that an unsigned int, and you *may* begin to understand what the parent poster was getting at.
I don't think you caught what I was saying. You said: "*speaking* from SCO's *eyes*". It would be better to say "speaking from SCO's perspective". Technically, what you said was a mixed metaphor, and a rather disturbing one at that.
This is a rather disturbing image. Watch your metaphors.
We better hush about this whole thing then, eh? Since we're talking about someone now, even if indirectly.
Now, as usual, IANAL, but I'm questioning how atrios can be held accountable for *other* posters' comments, especially when considering the demands of proving actual malice.
Fuck Luskin.
by privately I mean alone (as an entity, not necessarily an individual person). I see there's a bit of an ambiguity there that may lead to a contradiction with commercial.
which in this day and age REQUIRES private transportation.. Well, transportation at any rate. Hell, let *no one* except those with special commercial permits drive privately... and finally we'll have a decent public transportatin system.
Moore's law: Whenever you fail to preview, you will have wanted it most.
I don't think that this can be stressed enough. This really is the heart of the matter, couple with the de facto monopoly of distribution. I find it telling that copyright originated in England primarily as a way to control distribution (and thus allow for easier censorship).
There is somethings of a precedent being set here. I personally, am finding it increasingly acceptable to disurpt the distribution channels of these corporations (whether or not it does me any direct good). It is because I feel so entirely powerless in the face of these corporations. I have no voice. My life and what I might be exposed to is controlled by a few big players whose only interest is to control my purchasing (and incidentally my life).
So what if it's illegal? so what if it's wrong? The world is getting fucked and you're going to have to do some unsavory things if that's going to change. Disrupting social order is never pretty.
Of course, these issues go way beyond the current war of the public vs. ??AA.
This will probably come across as total trolling/flamebait, but honestly, my life has changed since I downloaded Kazaa lite. Being exposed to the likes of Alice & John Coltrane, Paul Lansky, Robert Wyatt, Stockhausen, Can, Silver Apples (Simeon),Godspeed You! Black Emperor, etc. has change the way I think (some of my current fav's). How am I supposed to hear the music of my culture (or even know what it is), when all that is played on the radio is pop shit? Am I damned because I live in the MidWest (property of Clear Channel) and don't know any music geeks?
here's a serious question: Does anyone know of any (civil disobediance) organizations in the Kansas City area who are looking for members? I know there's the EFF, but the only thing I can to do help them is donate money (of which I have *none* since I am a poor college student scraping by for meals). Besides, this is a larger issue than digital IP and I fear the EFF is too focused (though they do many great things).
I don't like Jane Austin, but if I *did* like Jane Austin, I'd read frickin' Jane Austin, not watch some cheesy derivative of Jane Austin's Emma like Clueless.
No one is suggesting that hydrogen be used as an energy source. Merely an energy transport. It is a way of disentangling the end use of energy from the source. This is what will allow us to throw off or dependency on oil as soon as we decide an alternate energy *source* is cheaper.
Apparently, though, flexibility is a Bad Thing.
There's no such thing as a free lunch. You can't win. You can only break even. Oh yeah, and you can't break even.
Fortunately, we have a very rich parent (the Sun) that keeps on throwing money at us. Or have you forgotten where all that energy stored in oil came from in the first place?
here's a bit of irony for you....
The first (and last) of these popup's I received informed me that the only way I could get rid of those popup's was to go to some website and install some software. Well, I promptly googled for a solution, found how to disable Windows Messenger Service, and haven't dealt with it since.
I'm sure if I did as they suggested it would have been something like a popup blocker coupled with a keylogger--of course, that's assuming it wasn't *entirely* malicicious and would actually install a popup blocker.
Umm... But it *can* work that way.
> link</a>
Let's see: try pasting this into a html file:
test <a href="http://www.google.com" OnMouseOver="window.open('http://www.yahoo.com')"
If you want, you can replace OnMouseOver with OnClick.
As has been pointed out many times, but obviously not enough, this is not a patent issue. This is an issue about a company breaking contract by failing to pay for it's contracted work.
OT Question: Is this spacing implemented to be word-wrap friendly?