Not even close. You might have more success in the future if you can figure out a way to relate your knee-jerk reactions to the actual content of the posted material. I know that expecting you to actually read it is out of the question. Maybe you could find some way to get Mechanical Turkers to poorly summarize it in such a way as to provide hooks for your hastily composed responses.
police should see you doing this they should sell your car and take your license since you're too stupid to figure out that 3000kg at 100km/h is a force to be respected.
What are we to do the people who are "too stupid" to figure out that human liberty and property rights are a force to be respected?
Could article submitters stop including this in their postings? What is the service that you are providing with this? Either you are making the assumption that the reader already knows what this means (in which case you are adding no informational value) or you are obfuscating the information which you are trying to convey with a cutesy in-joke. Either way, it is completely useless.
This would be a good place for an editor to step in and correct the text of the submission. If only Slashdot had editors.
Until it is discovered that by eliminating the luekemia gene, we left ourselves open for some Antarean Lemon Fever.
Which is more resistant to attack, a homogenous network of fully patched OpenBSD boxes or a heterogenous network of multiple operating systems? Today, it may seem that the all OpenBSD network would be most secure.. but what about when the blackhats discover a remote root exploit is found for OpenBSD?
And we haven't even performed a full source audit on our DNA.
If you live in a world like mine, your locally owned computer store will have a whole box of jumpers, motherboard offsets, Y-adapters for power and the like. I was a good customer, so they would just let me rummage for the little bits I needed.
But given the recent strides made by the Koffice team, it will only be a matter of time before their product is superior to MS Office in every respect.
Except for that little bit about not controlling the de facto standards for file formats, features and user interface.
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How can consumers be sure they're not just throttling what they used to give away for free and that what they're charging is fair?
This one is pretty easy. They probably are just throttling their old bandwidth, but since they paid for it, that's their perogative.
I assume you would determine if 'what they are charging is fair' the same way you determine it when you buy apples or SDRAM or a house. "Are you willing to pay X amount for Y benefit?" If YES, then the price is fair. If enough people decide NO, then Ximian changes prices or business models or what have you.
I don't see the value in providing bandwidth except to larger corporations who do massive amounts of updates but again, how far as Linux and Ximian penetrated corporations as a desktop?
It's quite simple, then. If you don't see the value... don't buy it. It doesn't matter a whit for YOUR purchasing decision what others think or do. The market forest is determined by each little tree like you.
A big thank you to all of you who use Junkbuster and other ad filtering software. You have proven your point. You can make unobtrusive advertising unworkable. Hopefully, you'll soon be able to drive all advertiser supported content off the web.
As a user, there is no real reason to be concerned about the license under which you receive a particular software package, assuming you know the salient points of the requirements (payment, installation and usage restrictions.) It becomes an issue if you want to distribute that software to another party.
I wasn't implying that it was easy.. if it was, they wouldn't give you $10,000 for doing it. I am merely pointing out that the original poster's comments had a fatal flaw.
The content I enjoy is or was for the longest time created by enthusiastic volunteers (Usenet, Yahoo, Slashdot etc.
Exactly one of which is not now, at least nominally, supported by advertising; in particular banner ads.
Furthermore, I am the sole owner of my computer, my monitor and my bandwidth, and I will control how my property is used; downloading and displaying blinking and distracting banner ads is not one of the uses I elect to sanction.
We could argue about the "sole owner of your bandwidth" issue, but I understand your point. I am not saying that you CAN'T legally, or even ethically, use junkbuster. I am merely saying that it MAY very well run counter to your interests to do so. There may always be people willing to provide useful and interesting content completely free (including free of advertising), but I don't think you can count on that.
Sucker. Use Junkbuster. Better living through technology. Isn't that whats the 'net is all about? Not making money. E-commerce can suck my left nut. I'll continue trading on OpenNAP servers or gnutella, etc.
Junkbuster has suffers from the same problems as spam-fighting email filters. You are either going to eliminate non-banner ad content or you are going to still get some banner ads. There are no perfect heuristics which will allow you to determine what is a banner ad and what is not.
Let's make an assumption that there WAS such a hueristic and that the Junkbuster 'solution' was widely used. What are some possible results of that?
The site oerators discover new ways to "hide" their ads. You see this in the email spam community all the time. If a filter is widely published, it can be evaded.
Perhaps more insidiuous then the above would be a site which discovers it must mingle editorial, advertising and even "journalistic" content.. making it impossible to determine what is objective analysis and what is advertising.
Advertising as a means of site support is eliminated. I'm sure many of you think this is a good idea.. until you realize that the advertising not only subsisdizes the content which you are enjoying "freely", but also indirectly network infrastructure costs, and thus your network access charges.
I can understand many people's dissatisfaction with the current web advertising model, but subverting the means by which the content you enjoy is created is counter productive.
Disgree? Then get rid of your CO monitor and smoke detector.
I used to have a CO detector that went off everytime I turned on the stove. I got rid of it. It didn't protect me by going off at the slightest provocation, see?
We don't object to people making modifications, in fact we really want that, we just don't want one of our competitors to do a billion dollar IPO off our work without opening their code.
There's your problem, then. You have two disparate goals in the same sentence.
I think your sentence might be better stated as, "We don't object to people making modifications, in fact we really want them; we want to make you increase the value of our IPO." Or else, "We're trying to pretend like we understand free software, but really, don't I have a right to everything you produce?"
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but these are the kind of debates in which you are forced to engage if you treat "health care" as a right.
that was probably enough though.
Not even close. You might have more success in the future if you can figure out a way to relate your knee-jerk reactions to the actual content of the posted material. I know that expecting you to actually read it is out of the question. Maybe you could find some way to get Mechanical Turkers to poorly summarize it in such a way as to provide hooks for your hastily composed responses.
Are you saying that it should be OK for you to drive however you want because it's your car?
Yep. If you haven't harmed anyone, where is the crime?
police should see you doing this they should sell your car and take your license since you're too stupid to figure out that 3000kg at 100km/h is a force to be respected.
What are we to do the people who are "too stupid" to figure out that human liberty and property rights are a force to be respected?
Yep - there are pools at JPL and Caltech.
What does the market suggest that we are looking at for end of life?
Yeah, we're all Linux zealots here. *rolls eyes* Seriously, might have been true 10 years ago, but today? Not so much.
I'm pretty sure I was here ten years ago. I've never been a Linux zealot. I've never even liked it much compared to the various available BSDs.
Are the Insurance companies any more ethical than the RIAA?
What have ethics got to do with prices? Hint: nothing.
What has cost of inputs got to do with pricing? Hint: less than you apparently believe.
It accounts for what, $20 of your taxes?
I'm sorry, I didn't recognize that the morality of theft was based on the size of the item stolen.
Does anyone honestly think that putting that bit of money elsewhere would solve whatever domestic problems you want fixed?
Yes, I think that we could get government out of the space exploration business and help solve my overtaxation problem.
Would you really rather be politely ignored than impolitely engaged?
LETMESMELLIT!
(Free reg. blah blah)
Could article submitters stop including this in their postings? What is the service that you are providing with this? Either you are making the assumption that the reader already knows what this means (in which case you are adding no informational value) or you are obfuscating the information which you are trying to convey with a cutesy in-joke. Either way, it is completely useless.
This would be a good place for an editor to step in and correct the text of the submission. If only Slashdot had editors.
You need not check the validity of every submission, only the ones which you are going to actually post.
Until it is discovered that by eliminating the luekemia gene, we left ourselves open for some Antarean Lemon Fever.
Which is more resistant to attack, a homogenous network of fully patched OpenBSD boxes or a heterogenous network of multiple operating systems? Today, it may seem that the all OpenBSD network would be most secure.. but what about when the blackhats discover a remote root exploit is found for OpenBSD?
And we haven't even performed a full source audit on our DNA.
If you live in a world like mine, your locally owned computer store will have a whole box of jumpers, motherboard offsets, Y-adapters for power and the like. I was a good customer, so they would just let me rummage for the little bits I needed.
But given the recent strides made by the Koffice team, it will only be a matter of time before their product is superior to MS Office in every respect.
Except for that little bit about not controlling the de facto standards for file formats, features and user interface.
How can consumers be sure they're not just throttling what they used to give away for free and that what they're charging is fair?
This one is pretty easy. They probably are just throttling their old bandwidth, but since they paid for it, that's their perogative.
I assume you would determine if 'what they are charging is fair' the same way you determine it when you buy apples or SDRAM or a house. "Are you willing to pay X amount for Y benefit?" If YES, then the price is fair. If enough people decide NO, then Ximian changes prices or business models or what have you.
I don't see the value in providing bandwidth except to larger corporations who do massive amounts of updates but again, how far as Linux and Ximian penetrated corporations as a desktop?
It's quite simple, then. If you don't see the value... don't buy it. It doesn't matter a whit for YOUR purchasing decision what others think or do. The market forest is determined by each little tree like you.
This is basic economics, not quantum mechanics.
A big thank you to all of you who use Junkbuster and other ad filtering software. You have proven your point. You can make unobtrusive advertising unworkable. Hopefully, you'll soon be able to drive all advertiser supported content off the web.
As a user, there is no real reason to be concerned about the license under which you receive a particular software package, assuming you know the salient points of the requirements (payment, installation and usage restrictions.) It becomes an issue if you want to distribute that software to another party.
Debian is doing a distribution, so they care.
I wasn't implying that it was easy.. if it was, they wouldn't give you $10,000 for doing it. I am merely pointing out that the original poster's comments had a fatal flaw.
You need only search the space up to the square root of the first number, a moments thought will let you see why.
Exactly one of which is not now, at least nominally, supported by advertising; in particular banner ads.
Furthermore, I am the sole owner of my computer, my monitor and my bandwidth, and I will control how my property is used; downloading and displaying blinking and distracting banner ads is not one of the uses I elect to sanction.We could argue about the "sole owner of your bandwidth" issue, but I understand your point. I am not saying that you CAN'T legally, or even ethically, use junkbuster. I am merely saying that it MAY very well run counter to your interests to do so. There may always be people willing to provide useful and interesting content completely free (including free of advertising), but I don't think you can count on that.
Junkbuster has suffers from the same problems as spam-fighting email filters. You are either going to eliminate non-banner ad content or you are going to still get some banner ads. There are no perfect heuristics which will allow you to determine what is a banner ad and what is not.
Let's make an assumption that there WAS such a hueristic and that the Junkbuster 'solution' was widely used. What are some possible results of that?
I can understand many people's dissatisfaction with the current web advertising model, but subverting the means by which the content you enjoy is created is counter productive.
I used to have a CO detector that went off everytime I turned on the stove. I got rid of it. It didn't protect me by going off at the slightest provocation, see?
There's your problem, then. You have two disparate goals in the same sentence.
I think your sentence might be better stated as, "We don't object to people making modifications, in fact we really want them; we want to make you increase the value of our IPO." Or else, "We're trying to pretend like we understand free software, but really, don't I have a right to everything you produce?"