In the Indian voting scenario, there is a separate register where a vote has to sign or put his thumb impression (for illiterate voters) after the election officer has verified their identity. Hence, there is a paper trail for number of votes casted if votes are to be re-counted. Yes, there is no way to audit individual votes in the Indian system.
This was a topic discussed in Indian newspapers a lot. In pre-EVM times you can just cancel or cast a blank ballot or stamp at some random place to cast an invalid vote. However, rules indicate that you can cast a protest vote by asking officer for form and then he will put your invalid or protest vote in a sealed envelope to be counted later on. Hence, it is still possible to cast a protest or invalid vote.
Did it hurt?
I was talking about something else. First, I agree that the Indian companies do not do anything innovative, as of now. However, they do build service architecture, i.e., application software that provides or supports services. But innovation is always built on previous work. American industry built on borrowed/stolen intellectual property of the britishers and europeans. Britishers built their industry by using a lot of borrowed/stolen european intellectual property (the first example is glass beads on which first patent was granted in Italy and the britishers enticed guild workers to spill the beans on bead making). Indians and chinese too will borrow/steal the western IP and build upon it. And looking back Indians invented or discovered a lot of math, which the Arabs borrowed from Indians and Europeans borrowed from Arabs. When you compare U.S. to India, people forget that U.S. is just 300 years old and it got a clean slate to build a country. Yes, I salute the American genius in doing a great job. However, Indians have been running societies since last 5,000 years. Indians invented a lot in those times which would be like quantum jumps by current standard (e.g., Plastic surgery). In short, China and India, the giants of the old world have just awaken results will be there for you to see.
Second, India is just 1/3rd the landmass of U.S. and with over three times the population of U.S. Farming in India and U.S. just cannot be compared. Hence, U.S. production is due to its vast land and water resources. Of course, with better machinery, seeds and education of farmers. However, Indian farming is no behind. Indians are food surplus and do have the food to feed a billion people. With 1/3rd of landmass of U.S. producing food for 3 times the American population is an amazing achievement. You cannot underestimate this achievement of Indian farmers.
Third, when you have a multiple societies that have lived togehter for last 5,000 years you cannot expect them to be homegenous like U.S. Americans instead of letting cultures flower within them just forced others to melt with them. American Indians are just a case in point. Blacks tend to live differently, but are paying the price of being "different" since America cannot tolerate anything that is not christian, not white and not singing praises of America. And all this from just 300 years of co-existence? I am not saying Indians are any better, but social problems will exist where societies exist.
I strongly recommend that you read what J.K. Galbraith, an American intellectual giant, wrote about India. More than that why not just visit India to see how it works and does not work.
Seventy percent of India population, i.e., 700 million people cannot be told to shut-up and just watch American subsidized agriculture run riot. US supports 250,000 cotton farmers with billions of dollars in subsidy. First cut those subsidizes then go about teaching free-trade. Recent WTO decision against US and in favor of brazil is a case-in-point.
A small minority of technically trained out of 30 per cent of India's non-farm population is giving US IT industry run for it money. Wait till many more Indians arise to compete with US. You ain't seen nothing yet buddy.
Pranjal, I grew-up in India. I can say with some certainty that Indian voters are quiet smart even in illiterate. Now, I am saying a lot of them and not all of them. And it is human nature to try to see what would happen if some other (than the one they were tutored to press) button is pressed. I have personally known of instances where voters took freebies from all parties and voted for whom they wanted to. Elections in India run on caste lines. "H(ij)acking" caste leaders is much more effective than hacking the voting machines.
You act like the victims of the system are responsible for it.
Quiet the contrary. I am blaming the system that creates victims. Cultural revolution should be blamed not the victims. I blame American government and its policies and not the American people for the current economic situation. Common people anywhere in world just want to work, earn and live. But I certainly feel agitated by the American public's patronizing attitude. When their government's disastrous policies play havoc with foreign countries they simply ignore. They would prefer to feed on a diet fed by their government and Fox News. Stalin and Mao's victims should not be blamed since they were voiceless, Americans are not voiceless yet they prefer to be mute to a large number of issues affecting rest of the world.
As for return to protectionist era where US threatened Super 301 against all and sundry will never comeback. First, WTO stands firm today. Most cases in WTO have gone against US. Second, if US raises protectionism then rest of the world will too. The most important markets are China and India. China is not just an exporter, it is also one of the top five importers. China has become a monstrous consumer of steel. India adds a million cell-phone users each month, all with American CDMA and European GSM equipment. These countries now have enough economic muscle to retaliate against the U.S. if they block US imports. Where are the markets for US companies to grow?
Another important thing is the demographic profile of the future. India, China and Arab world will have the most young people while American and European people will age. It is important for American capital and government to make sure that profits and innovation keep coming from outside U.S. when its own population ages.
America needs friends and not more enemies, wheter economic or otherwise. America has gone into a parnoid shell of terroism fears and has gone beserk attacking any country on the "axis" of its sight. However, this argument is hard to digest for both American politicians or American public which has been intoxicated with the feeling that American power will never diminish in any sphere. What people forget is just the recent example of British imperialism. Britannia ruled over waves with superior technology, organization, huge wealth and an immensly proud martial race. However, the societies they ruled became progressive and Britain developed it own enemy - Germany. America is in a phase where it is just creating more enemies who might just be pin-pricks today, but will prove to be headache for the giant tommorow.
I always wonder about the Religious-Economic angle to current economic situation. More than anything is the fundamental war that has begun which no one will acknowledge. America christian civilization refuses to progress inspite of all the liberalism of 300 years. America supports Israel to retain the Christian holy lands. This has created so much humiliation among Arabs and Muslims of which the results are obvious. This aspect is important to economics since only non-muslim markets for US are Russia, India, Japan and China. If US economically starves or retaliates against these countries then US is terribly isolated in the hidden religious war. This could be reason why America does not want to retaliate if some thousand jobs go to India or China.
I welcome Americans to the club where you are feeling the pinch of capitalist policies. Hire and Fire rules. Imagine what kind of upheaveals you create for millions when you invade, occupy and destroy other countries whether militarily or through multinational corporations.
Software has historically been "written" but it is pure engineering since it is about design. Once software is out of this historical dogma of it must be written, which is evidently is a relic of VT100 days, more people will realize the values of good design and reusability. Further, this will also lead to acceptance of software as a patentable thing and not a bunch of ideas. Free software will eventually have to accept this work around these patents by innovating for real and not just reimplenting and rehashing the same old ideas.
Where can I buy this one? A pretty neighbor has just moved in and I really need some technical help. Is there a Amazon.com in Israel? Free Shipping over 25 Israeli dollars?
The funny thing is, the editor claims it's not as much about money as because he's 'getting a better interface with producers of the content.'
What so "funny" about Indian quality being better than American? I find it stupid to think that all outsourcing is about money. If cheap products/services do not offer a certain quality then no one in US would consume them irrespective of it being "so cheap". Gotta get that right.
They will have Antitrust problems. MS already owns a chunk of Comcast another broadband provider. Acquiring AOL broadband and dialup business will make them a target for DOJ antitrust investigation. And that a cool thing for Billy and Melinda's kids' future.
American's look down upon the third world as a shitty place. American's think that when they militarily conqured Japan they became masters of it. When Japanese progressed to challenge American industrial might, the American just pooped in their pants and used muscle techniques with the Japanese. This is nothing new to those of us living in places like India. The Britishers had the same arrogance and even racial superiority written all over (Just read any Raj era literature).
When third-world opposed American businesses selling sugar water as cola and repatriating millions of dollars that is a trade barrier. And we are then given lessons in the greatness of free-trade. American's bring is huge industrial production capabilities that disturb the local employment structure. When third world complains it is said the progress is inevitable and productivity is more important than living wages for workers.
When Indians create world-class (CMM Level 5) software delivery systems benefiting the American business they are accused of stealing jobs. Why is improved cost-benefit not a good thing? If a minuscle number of Americans prefer to go to grad schools how are Indians at fault for this?
This is just the beginning pals, more is yet to come.
I use KDE on a laptop and tried to configure a local printer with it. No help messages anywhere. First I had to scavenge the net to find a driver for my common printer HP 632C. Then the famed CUPS had a hard time recognizing it. All the while the great KDE provided no help screens or diagnosis. Windows Plug-n-play is far easier.
Munich might have saved cost of future licences, but who will install a network printer on their Linux machine easily? Unfriendliness of Linux interfaces, the learning cost and uncertainty of changes and upgrades carries a cost. May be large organizations can afford such cost, smaller ones cannot. And apparently the cost argument is to entice the smaller ones.
1. Americans dropped 2 atom bombs on Japense civilian population, where war is usually confined to military installations. Yes, Pearl Harbor was a military installation.
2. Americans (McArthur) forced the Japan to be an impotent state that is dependent on US for security. This another way of ruling country - imperialism - nothing else. US still maintains troops in Germany. Why?
3. America is far more dangerous than a crank getting hold of nukes. Here, a president can hoodwink all his people, constitutional checks-and-balances just because he is a dunce and idiot and his team puppets him to destroy Iraq because it is "evil". Come on this guy just started world-war IV. A trigger happy prezident in US is as dangerous as Osma with a mission. Both are zealots, ideology driven, think violence will achieve their aims and idiots.
4. Except US and Britain which other modern country has practicsed imperialism? Name one.
These are just political views. Now go get back to work.
It is Iranian help to Northern Alliance that got rid of Taliban utlitmately. US hardly did any actual fighting, all of which was done ny Northern Alliance. Where the heck do you get your facts from? For a dumb American president and dumber American public facts just do not matter.
First ask that media to report Israel's nuclear program. I am neither american nor iranian nor israeli. What the heck is America's sole right to posses nukes and others should not?
Iran is an ancient culture. And a very cultured one. American government would like to believe us that it is in the same league as North Korea. I find it utterly strange that there is an international ban on them for no reason at all.
Every time I critisize open source they give me a 'troll' modifier. So much for freedom of speech and expression.
Why should I be embarrased to critisize open source? It may be 'religion' kind of thing for you people. I would rather take an objective view of this circus.
I guess the case of tablet PC, Speech Recognition, etc. shows how the open source movement is good at replicating what others have done. But very low on innovation. I mean open source hasn't bought out the best handwriting recognition engine! Guess the innvotation that can bring in money and food on table is always done by so called close source! If you wanna disprove me give me a link to a open source handwriting recognition that runs on a tablet PC and is better than microsoft's tablet OS.
I am suspicious of onlien bookstores which do not even show the table of contents. So do I just buy this book since it has been '$touch assembly-book slashdot' ?
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The article cites incorrect patent no.
This patent is for a USB powered lamp...
6,575,593
In the Indian voting scenario, there is a separate register where a vote has to sign or put his thumb impression (for illiterate voters) after the election officer has verified their identity. Hence, there is a paper trail for number of votes casted if votes are to be re-counted. Yes, there is no way to audit individual votes in the Indian system.
This was a topic discussed in Indian newspapers a lot. In pre-EVM times you can just cancel or cast a blank ballot or stamp at some random place to cast an invalid vote. However, rules indicate that you can cast a protest vote by asking officer for form and then he will put your invalid or protest vote in a sealed envelope to be counted later on. Hence, it is still possible to cast a protest or invalid vote.
Did it hurt? I was talking about something else. First, I agree that the Indian companies do not do anything innovative, as of now. However, they do build service architecture, i.e., application software that provides or supports services. But innovation is always built on previous work. American industry built on borrowed/stolen intellectual property of the britishers and europeans. Britishers built their industry by using a lot of borrowed/stolen european intellectual property (the first example is glass beads on which first patent was granted in Italy and the britishers enticed guild workers to spill the beans on bead making). Indians and chinese too will borrow/steal the western IP and build upon it. And looking back Indians invented or discovered a lot of math, which the Arabs borrowed from Indians and Europeans borrowed from Arabs. When you compare U.S. to India, people forget that U.S. is just 300 years old and it got a clean slate to build a country. Yes, I salute the American genius in doing a great job. However, Indians have been running societies since last 5,000 years. Indians invented a lot in those times which would be like quantum jumps by current standard (e.g., Plastic surgery). In short, China and India, the giants of the old world have just awaken results will be there for you to see. Second, India is just 1/3rd the landmass of U.S. and with over three times the population of U.S. Farming in India and U.S. just cannot be compared. Hence, U.S. production is due to its vast land and water resources. Of course, with better machinery, seeds and education of farmers. However, Indian farming is no behind. Indians are food surplus and do have the food to feed a billion people. With 1/3rd of landmass of U.S. producing food for 3 times the American population is an amazing achievement. You cannot underestimate this achievement of Indian farmers. Third, when you have a multiple societies that have lived togehter for last 5,000 years you cannot expect them to be homegenous like U.S. Americans instead of letting cultures flower within them just forced others to melt with them. American Indians are just a case in point. Blacks tend to live differently, but are paying the price of being "different" since America cannot tolerate anything that is not christian, not white and not singing praises of America. And all this from just 300 years of co-existence? I am not saying Indians are any better, but social problems will exist where societies exist. I strongly recommend that you read what J.K. Galbraith, an American intellectual giant, wrote about India. More than that why not just visit India to see how it works and does not work.
Seventy percent of India population, i.e., 700 million people cannot be told to shut-up and just watch American subsidized agriculture run riot. US supports 250,000 cotton farmers with billions of dollars in subsidy. First cut those subsidizes then go about teaching free-trade. Recent WTO decision against US and in favor of brazil is a case-in-point. A small minority of technically trained out of 30 per cent of India's non-farm population is giving US IT industry run for it money. Wait till many more Indians arise to compete with US. You ain't seen nothing yet buddy.
Pranjal, I grew-up in India. I can say with some certainty that Indian voters are quiet smart even in illiterate. Now, I am saying a lot of them and not all of them. And it is human nature to try to see what would happen if some other (than the one they were tutored to press) button is pressed. I have personally known of instances where voters took freebies from all parties and voted for whom they wanted to. Elections in India run on caste lines. "H(ij)acking" caste leaders is much more effective than hacking the voting machines.
You act like the victims of the system are responsible for it. Quiet the contrary. I am blaming the system that creates victims. Cultural revolution should be blamed not the victims. I blame American government and its policies and not the American people for the current economic situation. Common people anywhere in world just want to work, earn and live. But I certainly feel agitated by the American public's patronizing attitude. When their government's disastrous policies play havoc with foreign countries they simply ignore. They would prefer to feed on a diet fed by their government and Fox News. Stalin and Mao's victims should not be blamed since they were voiceless, Americans are not voiceless yet they prefer to be mute to a large number of issues affecting rest of the world. As for return to protectionist era where US threatened Super 301 against all and sundry will never comeback. First, WTO stands firm today. Most cases in WTO have gone against US. Second, if US raises protectionism then rest of the world will too. The most important markets are China and India. China is not just an exporter, it is also one of the top five importers. China has become a monstrous consumer of steel. India adds a million cell-phone users each month, all with American CDMA and European GSM equipment. These countries now have enough economic muscle to retaliate against the U.S. if they block US imports. Where are the markets for US companies to grow? Another important thing is the demographic profile of the future. India, China and Arab world will have the most young people while American and European people will age. It is important for American capital and government to make sure that profits and innovation keep coming from outside U.S. when its own population ages. America needs friends and not more enemies, wheter economic or otherwise. America has gone into a parnoid shell of terroism fears and has gone beserk attacking any country on the "axis" of its sight. However, this argument is hard to digest for both American politicians or American public which has been intoxicated with the feeling that American power will never diminish in any sphere. What people forget is just the recent example of British imperialism. Britannia ruled over waves with superior technology, organization, huge wealth and an immensly proud martial race. However, the societies they ruled became progressive and Britain developed it own enemy - Germany. America is in a phase where it is just creating more enemies who might just be pin-pricks today, but will prove to be headache for the giant tommorow. I always wonder about the Religious-Economic angle to current economic situation. More than anything is the fundamental war that has begun which no one will acknowledge. America christian civilization refuses to progress inspite of all the liberalism of 300 years. America supports Israel to retain the Christian holy lands. This has created so much humiliation among Arabs and Muslims of which the results are obvious. This aspect is important to economics since only non-muslim markets for US are Russia, India, Japan and China. If US economically starves or retaliates against these countries then US is terribly isolated in the hidden religious war. This could be reason why America does not want to retaliate if some thousand jobs go to India or China.
I welcome Americans to the club where you are feeling the pinch of capitalist policies. Hire and Fire rules. Imagine what kind of upheaveals you create for millions when you invade, occupy and destroy other countries whether militarily or through multinational corporations.
Software has historically been "written" but it is pure engineering since it is about design. Once software is out of this historical dogma of it must be written, which is evidently is a relic of VT100 days, more people will realize the values of good design and reusability. Further, this will also lead to acceptance of software as a patentable thing and not a bunch of ideas. Free software will eventually have to accept this work around these patents by innovating for real and not just reimplenting and rehashing the same old ideas.
Where can I buy this one? A pretty neighbor has just moved in and I really need some technical help. Is there a Amazon.com in Israel? Free Shipping over 25 Israeli dollars?
Why mention a bra? A large section of slashdot is male (it seems) and sex starved (it seems!).
The funny thing is, the editor claims it's not as much about money as because he's 'getting a better interface with producers of the content.' What so "funny" about Indian quality being better than American? I find it stupid to think that all outsourcing is about money. If cheap products/services do not offer a certain quality then no one in US would consume them irrespective of it being "so cheap". Gotta get that right.
They will have Antitrust problems. MS already owns a chunk of Comcast another broadband provider. Acquiring AOL broadband and dialup business will make them a target for DOJ antitrust investigation. And that a cool thing for Billy and Melinda's kids' future.
American's look down upon the third world as a shitty place. American's think that when they militarily conqured Japan they became masters of it. When Japanese progressed to challenge American industrial might, the American just pooped in their pants and used muscle techniques with the Japanese. This is nothing new to those of us living in places like India. The Britishers had the same arrogance and even racial superiority written all over (Just read any Raj era literature). When third-world opposed American businesses selling sugar water as cola and repatriating millions of dollars that is a trade barrier. And we are then given lessons in the greatness of free-trade. American's bring is huge industrial production capabilities that disturb the local employment structure. When third world complains it is said the progress is inevitable and productivity is more important than living wages for workers. When Indians create world-class (CMM Level 5) software delivery systems benefiting the American business they are accused of stealing jobs. Why is improved cost-benefit not a good thing? If a minuscle number of Americans prefer to go to grad schools how are Indians at fault for this? This is just the beginning pals, more is yet to come.
I use KDE on a laptop and tried to configure a local printer with it. No help messages anywhere. First I had to scavenge the net to find a driver for my common printer HP 632C. Then the famed CUPS had a hard time recognizing it. All the while the great KDE provided no help screens or diagnosis. Windows Plug-n-play is far easier.
Munich might have saved cost of future licences, but who will install a network printer on their Linux machine easily? Unfriendliness of Linux interfaces, the learning cost and uncertainty of changes and upgrades carries a cost. May be large organizations can afford such cost, smaller ones cannot. And apparently the cost argument is to entice the smaller ones.
Just get 1000 DVD players or about 200 5-disc changer DVD players and use a remote controlled multiplex swtich. What is this fuss all about?
1. Americans dropped 2 atom bombs on Japense civilian population, where war is usually confined to military installations. Yes, Pearl Harbor was a military installation. 2. Americans (McArthur) forced the Japan to be an impotent state that is dependent on US for security. This another way of ruling country - imperialism - nothing else. US still maintains troops in Germany. Why? 3. America is far more dangerous than a crank getting hold of nukes. Here, a president can hoodwink all his people, constitutional checks-and-balances just because he is a dunce and idiot and his team puppets him to destroy Iraq because it is "evil". Come on this guy just started world-war IV. A trigger happy prezident in US is as dangerous as Osma with a mission. Both are zealots, ideology driven, think violence will achieve their aims and idiots. 4. Except US and Britain which other modern country has practicsed imperialism? Name one. These are just political views. Now go get back to work.
It is Iranian help to Northern Alliance that got rid of Taliban utlitmately. US hardly did any actual fighting, all of which was done ny Northern Alliance. Where the heck do you get your facts from? For a dumb American president and dumber American public facts just do not matter.
First ask that media to report Israel's nuclear program. I am neither american nor iranian nor israeli. What the heck is America's sole right to posses nukes and others should not?
Iran is an ancient culture. And a very cultured one. American government would like to believe us that it is in the same league as North Korea. I find it utterly strange that there is an international ban on them for no reason at all.
always felt bsd was safer than linux.
Every time I critisize open source they give me a 'troll' modifier. So much for freedom of speech and expression. Why should I be embarrased to critisize open source? It may be 'religion' kind of thing for you people. I would rather take an objective view of this circus.
I guess the case of tablet PC, Speech Recognition, etc. shows how the open source movement is good at replicating what others have done. But very low on innovation. I mean open source hasn't bought out the best handwriting recognition engine! Guess the innvotation that can bring in money and food on table is always done by so called close source! If you wanna disprove me give me a link to a open source handwriting recognition that runs on a tablet PC and is better than microsoft's tablet OS.
I am suspicious of onlien bookstores which do not even show the table of contents. So do I just buy this book since it has been '$touch assembly-book slashdot' ?