Boxed versions of OSX are all "upgrades" not full installs. Apple do not sell full installs. Every single Mac shipped comes with a factory full install of OSX. From there on for the rest of the life of the Mac you can purchase upgrades to your original full install OSX which you purchased with the Mac.
The reason nobody else can preinstall OSX other than Apple is apple currently do not sell OEM or full install licensed copies of their OS like Microsoft does. Clones like Psystar are free loading of the development work that Apple has put into it's OS. Unless the judge in this case throws out the use of EULA's use by everybody in software Psystar have no chance. If for some reason the judge says Apple has to license OSx to third parties then instead only selling an upgrade for $129 they can sell a full install for OEM's for $999 and still only provide support for apple branded computers.
And by the way there is NOTHING illegal about a naturally occurring Monopoly. Anti-Trust claims (which are claims relating to illegal monopolies) where thrown out by the judge.
I know it's/. but if you just RTFA you might realize this matter is now based on misuses of copyrights and nothing to do with Anti-Trust violations.
I can't be too hard to isolate the physical database servers behind a reasonable secure firewall.
Have a web server communicate through a proprietary communications layer, possibly XML, to a dual homed intermediary server behind a firewall which in turn accesses the database server on a local network. No direct net access for the DB server and the intermediary dual homed server simply runs a minimal config and firewall to only accept inbound connections from the web server.
So it's impossible for any direct SQL statements to get to the Database Server without passing through your communications layer, which of course has sufficient integrity checking to ensure no field overruns or unintended access is permitted.
Sure it adds to the complexity but this company earns millions in revenue and is in the "security" business so they should have their house in order.
1. Alien civilization spreads through galaxy at sublight speed.
2. Alien's find planet Earth, ideal for life but currently without any.
3. Alien's place building blocks of life on Earth, sit back and watch for a few million years until humans evolve enough to be worthwhile talking to. ...
4. PROFIT!!
"Unfortunately, we're not cool enough to run on your OS yet. We really wish we had a version of Photosynth that worked cross platform, but for now it only runs on Windows.
Trust us, as soon as we have a Mac version ready, it will be up and available on our site."
If Microsoft want to change the perception that Vista is a dud they need to convince their own staff first. Messages like the one above reinforce the common belief that OSx is better.
Have any of the "open" everything zealots posting here given a second to think perhaps Apple is concerned about the user experience on their platform? By having all software on the platform go through profiling by Apple before it set free in the wild they are limiting virus, malware and general nastyness from getting on the iPhone. If you are a hacker and want to put your own software on you own iPhone or that of a couple mates you can do it.
As an ex-FreeBSD user who has switched to OSx in the last couple years I have to admit I drink Apples Kool-aid. But at the same time I don't have virus, botnet hell or other crap on my system. Yes I had the same with FreeBSD but I got tired of the time it took keeping all my ports up to date.
Thank you Steve for keeping you platforms secure so it doesn't get filled with nasty malware, virus and other shit when I visit p0rn sites.
The Macbook Air is no the answer to everybody's needs, but this FUD about lack of DVD, USB ports and battery life is a joke. There are easy solutions to these problems is you so wish. If you don't want to get around these problems with the easy solutions you are probably not Apple's target market... move alone please...
Not being a developer of P2P software or knowing how feasible this would be I have a plan.
Get somebody to write a program that lists on P2P networks songs from Metellica, Prince and all the other ones that are all over P2P as available for download. But have the open source software coded in such a way as it is impossible to actually download the music.
Then wait for a RIAA lawsuit against you for sharing music. Go to court and prove it is impossible for the software you have running on your machine to actually send out the files listed. Get a precedent set that just having music "available" does not prove it is actually been or is capable of being downloaded.
If a online project is done to do this which some support from a legal team anti RIAA and a few 10,000's being download and run the software wouldn't the RIAA be royally Fscked?
I think one of the big factors stopping major corporate backing of BSD is the license. If people release software under a BSD style license then anybody can use that code. So IBM is not about to release a bunch of software to FreeBSD so Microsoft can just use it without paying them any money.
Linux on the other hand they can release it under GPL and no they nobody can commercially use their code without their permission. By commercially here I mean use it in proprietary software.
Also while linux and BSD are pretty much first cousins it's not an equal relationship. Linux can take and use BSD code and release it under a GPL license, but BSD can not take linux code and release under BSD.
When you are at work how about having a chat to the guys about FreeBSD host support.
I currently run a very old 2.x version on VMWare and would like to BUY and be able to run your latest products.
From the ports collection there is version 3.x of VMWare running under linux emulation but I can't buy any liscences for 3.x. I was reading one post on a newsgroup a while ago that suggested that you have to resort to finding liscences on warez sites if you want to get it running.
With version 5.3 of FreeBSD looking like it will become a stable branch soon I'd really like to buy a dual opteron machine with the new SMP enhancements and run a XP virtual machine for developers that have to use the occasional windows tools.
I love next door to one of the Echelon site located in the Waihopai Valley in Marlborough, New Zealand.
A while after the 911 thing the base had an open day for neighbours to come and have a look through the place. That is the places they allowed us to look at which wasn't too much. They served up nice tea and cakes too:)
The idea I think was to get all the people on neighbouring properties to be on the look out for any unusual activity and let them know if anything happens.
Here is a link to a picture of our very own Echelon spy base.
http://kai.iks-jena.de/bilder/waihopai.jpg
I got to go inside the Big golf ball on the left in the picture.
In 10 years from now I predict I will still be using FreeBSD on my desktop and probably MacOS on my Powerbook.
Apart from the Dell machines I have reciently purchased for my company for a web developer who needed photoshop dreamweaver etc I'd not have a single windows pc in my office. With the speed in which Eric Laffoon is pushing along Quanta and having it built into base KDE I can see a time very soon when I will make Quanta my only development platform, intergration with CVS etc just makes it a great choice for PHP and web development.
For mail I use Evolution and simply love it. Forget about all the virus problems that Outlook has.
In fact the only thing I think windows has going for it is Photoshop. I've tried the gimp and sorry but it just isn't there yet for me, but in 10 years time I'm darn sure it will be!!!
Yes Microsoft could pull the old "Stop using open source or we will sue" if you use our patents. But this action would most likely be seen as anti-competitive behaviour by a convicted monopolist.
If they tried this sort of thing I think they would end up in a world of trouble. Will they try? Probably!!
I don't believe it's like charging the price of a cased based on how fast you're going to drive it.
It is like charging for a car based on how fast you CAN drive it
Last time I checked most fast cars, did in fact cost a lot more than slow ones, even if the owners of the fast cars drove them like Granny's.
The point of this method is licensing is you charge based on your capacity to the software independent of the hardware platform choices you may choose to run the software on. It is just stupid to think that running software on a cluster of 10 old Pentium 200mhz machines should be 10 times the cost of running the same software on one 2Ghz machine if both hardware configurations have the same computational potential.
I can't remember exactly, but back when I was working as a IBM mainframe software engineer I had a feeling the IBM and CA who provided various software for our mainframes charged some software based on MIPS (Million Instructions Per Second) ratings of the virtual machines that the software was running on.
Why don't software companies just do the same thing. Establish a performance benchmark and charge based on that. That way you can use single, dual or multi core processors or multi CPU machines and not have to worry about all this licensing drama. If you real machine or "virtual machine" is bench-marked at x MIPS you pay y dollars, who cares what architecture you are running.
We have a daily humor mailing list with a few 100,000 subscribers and every time a new virus comes out we get blasted from all the unprotected windows/outlook express users.
To make sure we don't get infected and send out virus to all the users we use FreeBSD for our desktop OS and Evolution as our email client.
Oh and then there is all the spam we get sent, thanks to SpamAssassin for filtering most of this out.
OK I'm giving up on trying to join the mile high club, all the air hostesses I've approached where not too keen on my advances. Time now to go straight to the 100 mile high club!!!
Hey tell Nasa that to survice the winters on mars they only have to get some guy to go into the mountain where the alien machine is placed. But your hand on some funny looking device with a hand holder thing. once your hand goes in the hand holder thing the machine will melt all the stored ice and create an atmosphere.
Duh!!
You would think they would have seen "Total Recall" already, what have they been doing?
I take the point you make about pseudoscience and free energy devices etc. It's interesting to note through that Tesla did believe in "free energy". His thought and experiments in wireless transmission of electrical energy was that people around the world could tap into his free energy system. It was free in that anybody could use it without cost, but it still had to be generated and he planned on tapping the massive hydroelectric potential to feed his network. Because there was no way to put up a meter and charge people for the use of this electricity he was considered a little crazy and could not find any serious backers for his project. (J. P. Morgan in fact pulled funding of the Warden-clyffe Tower project in 1905 after learning of Tesla's plans to use it to send free energy with the technology he was developing.) Tesla did, I understand, conduct practical experiments and successfully transmit power through wireless transmission over some distance with little loss.
Tesla's business accumen I'd almost go as far to say was inversely proportional to his genius in invention.
I did a quick search on the 6 million I said I thought Westinghouse owed as royalty. I found that in 1907 Westinghouse paid him $216,000 to settle the royality problem which was a LOT less than the 12 million (not 6 million) that it was valued at that time. ref. I imagine 12 million dollars in 1907 would be worth hundreds if not billions today (if you didn't loose in the two may sharemarket crashes between then and now;)
Off their rocker... Tesla fanatics... them be fighting words!!!
We kind of have a LOT to thank Tesla for after all. Go read some of his patents if you have any doubts Selected Tesla Patents.
In my opinion if Tesla where alive today he would have been one of the biggest Open Source advocates around. The reason why everybody who turns on a light swich fed by AC current generated by one of Tesla generators doesn't thank him for it is mainy due to his lack of capitalist motivation. He believed in information and advancement for all mankind with his work, not making a few million for himself.
In fact Westinghouse owed Tesla many million (I think an estamate was around 6 million) for royalties on patents Westinghouse purchased on AC generators and motors. It would have bankrupted the Westinghouse business if they had to pay, so Tesla wrote the debt off and thanked Westinghouse in believing in AC currents when lunatics like Edison where running about trying to create a DC based domestic electrical system. He died a poor man basically because he donated his work on AC generators/motors to the people of America and the world by not enforcing royalties due.
Tesla is basically the exact opposite of Bill Gates. He actually created and invented things. And he didn't try and change people outrageous liscence and royaltiy fees every time people used his products. He believed in the betterment of man kind through his work, not becoming the richest guy in the world.
The sofware will be licenced for private use only...
Hey doesn't that sounds a lot like Netscapes marketing policy before Microsoft crushed them?
My thoughts also query if giving away software for free to limited numbers of high value customers isn't in fact an anti-competitive business practive by a convicted monopolist. Does giving away the software for free make the real value of the software $0, and by virtue of operating a monopoly in the Office Suite software market are they abusing this monolopy position charging ~= $500 to regular users?
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Boxed versions of OSX are all "upgrades" not full installs. Apple do not sell full installs. Every single Mac shipped comes with a factory full install of OSX. From there on for the rest of the life of the Mac you can purchase upgrades to your original full install OSX which you purchased with the Mac.
/. but if you just RTFA you might realize this matter is now based on misuses of copyrights and nothing to do with Anti-Trust violations.
The reason nobody else can preinstall OSX other than Apple is apple currently do not sell OEM or full install licensed copies of their OS like Microsoft does. Clones like Psystar are free loading of the development work that Apple has put into it's OS. Unless the judge in this case throws out the use of EULA's use by everybody in software Psystar have no chance. If for some reason the judge says Apple has to license OSx to third parties then instead only selling an upgrade for $129 they can sell a full install for OEM's for $999 and still only provide support for apple branded computers.
And by the way there is NOTHING illegal about a naturally occurring Monopoly. Anti-Trust claims (which are claims relating to illegal monopolies) where thrown out by the judge.
I know it's
I can't be too hard to isolate the physical database servers behind a reasonable secure firewall.
Have a web server communicate through a proprietary communications layer, possibly XML, to a dual homed intermediary server behind a firewall which in turn accesses the database server on a local network. No direct net access for the DB server and the intermediary dual homed server simply runs a minimal config and firewall to only accept inbound connections from the web server.
So it's impossible for any direct SQL statements to get to the Database Server without passing through your communications layer, which of course has sufficient integrity checking to ensure no field overruns or unintended access is permitted.
Sure it adds to the complexity but this company earns millions in revenue and is in the "security" business so they should have their house in order.
1. Alien civilization spreads through galaxy at sublight speed.
...
2. Alien's find planet Earth, ideal for life but currently without any.
3. Alien's place building blocks of life on Earth, sit back and watch for a few million years until humans evolve enough to be worthwhile talking to.
4. PROFIT!!
The Problem is even Microsoft doesn't like their own Operating systems.
I just visited the new Microsoft Photosynth install page http://photosynth.net/install.aspx on my Mac and this was the message!!!
"Unfortunately, we're not cool enough to run on your OS yet. We really wish we had a version of Photosynth that worked cross platform, but for now it only runs on Windows.
Trust us, as soon as we have a Mac version ready, it will be up and available on our site."
If Microsoft want to change the perception that Vista is a dud they need to convince their own staff first. Messages like the one above reinforce the common belief that OSx is better.
Security Security Security
Have any of the "open" everything zealots posting here given a second to think perhaps Apple is concerned about the user experience on their platform? By having all software on the platform go through profiling by Apple before it set free in the wild they are limiting virus, malware and general nastyness from getting on the iPhone. If you are a hacker and want to put your own software on you own iPhone or that of a couple mates you can do it.
As an ex-FreeBSD user who has switched to OSx in the last couple years I have to admit I drink Apples Kool-aid. But at the same time I don't have virus, botnet hell or other crap on my system. Yes I had the same with FreeBSD but I got tired of the time it took keeping all my ports up to date.
Thank you Steve for keeping you platforms secure so it doesn't get filled with nasty malware, virus and other shit when I visit p0rn sites.
Enough with the FUD.
How about on the plane you use a power adapter http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=1413E0A0&fnode=home/shop_mac/family/macbook_air&nplm=MB441Z/A
If you need to use a DVD then plug in the Macbook Air SuperDrive. http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=1413E09C&fnode=home/shop_mac/family/macbook_air&nplm=MB397G/A
Depending how many USB ports you need you can take along your USB Hub http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_hub
Or if you will not be needing these accessories on any particular trip don't pack them in your luggage.
The Macbook Air is no the answer to everybody's needs, but this FUD about lack of DVD, USB ports and battery life is a joke. There are easy solutions to these problems is you so wish. If you don't want to get around these problems with the easy solutions you are probably not Apple's target market... move alone please...
Not being a developer of P2P software or knowing how feasible this would be I have a plan.
Get somebody to write a program that lists on P2P networks songs from Metellica, Prince and all the other ones that are all over P2P as available for download. But have the open source software coded in such a way as it is impossible to actually download the music.
Then wait for a RIAA lawsuit against you for sharing music. Go to court and prove it is impossible for the software you have running on your machine to actually send out the files listed. Get a precedent set that just having music "available" does not prove it is actually been or is capable of being downloaded.
If a online project is done to do this which some support from a legal team anti RIAA and a few 10,000's being download and run the software wouldn't the RIAA be royally Fscked?
I have been using FreeBSD on my desktop for years (since 4.2 or 4.3 I think) and this was the first money I've ever paid to support it.
While I feel good that I helped a little I kinda feel a little bad I've never done anything else before!!!
I think one of the big factors stopping major corporate backing of BSD is the license. If people release software under a BSD style license then anybody can use that code. So IBM is not about to release a bunch of software to FreeBSD so Microsoft can just use it without paying them any money. Linux on the other hand they can release it under GPL and no they nobody can commercially use their code without their permission. By commercially here I mean use it in proprietary software. Also while linux and BSD are pretty much first cousins it's not an equal relationship. Linux can take and use BSD code and release it under a GPL license, but BSD can not take linux code and release under BSD.
Hi TimMann,
When you are at work how about having a chat to the guys about FreeBSD host support.
I currently run a very old 2.x version on VMWare and would like to BUY and be able to run your latest products.
From the ports collection there is version 3.x of VMWare running under linux emulation but I can't buy any liscences for 3.x. I was reading one post on a newsgroup a while ago that suggested that you have to resort to finding liscences on warez sites if you want to get it running.
With version 5.3 of FreeBSD looking like it will become a stable branch soon I'd really like to buy a dual opteron machine with the new SMP enhancements and run a XP virtual machine for developers that have to use the occasional windows tools.
I love next door to one of the Echelon site located in the Waihopai Valley in Marlborough, New Zealand.
:)
A while after the 911 thing the base had an open day for neighbours to come and have a look through the place. That is the places they allowed us to look at which wasn't too much. They served up nice tea and cakes too
The idea I think was to get all the people on neighbouring properties to be on the look out for any unusual activity and let them know if anything happens.
Here is a link to a picture of our very own Echelon spy base.
http://kai.iks-jena.de/bilder/waihopai.jpg
I got to go inside the Big golf ball on the left in the picture.
In 10 years from now I predict I will still be using FreeBSD on my desktop and probably MacOS on my Powerbook.
Apart from the Dell machines I have reciently purchased for my company for a web developer who needed photoshop dreamweaver etc I'd not have a single windows pc in my office. With the speed in which Eric Laffoon is pushing along Quanta and having it built into base KDE I can see a time very soon when I will make Quanta my only development platform, intergration with CVS etc just makes it a great choice for PHP and web development.
For mail I use Evolution and simply love it. Forget about all the virus problems that Outlook has.
In fact the only thing I think windows has going for it is Photoshop. I've tried the gimp and sorry but it just isn't there yet for me, but in 10 years time I'm darn sure it will be!!!
Say good night Bill, you are history!!!
Yes Microsoft could pull the old "Stop using open source or we will sue" if you use our patents. But this action would most likely be seen as anti-competitive behaviour by a convicted monopolist.
If they tried this sort of thing I think they would end up in a world of trouble. Will they try? Probably!!
I don't believe it's like charging the price of a cased based on how fast you're going to drive it.
It is like charging for a car based on how fast you CAN drive it
Last time I checked most fast cars, did in fact cost a lot more than slow ones, even if the owners of the fast cars drove them like Granny's.
The point of this method is licensing is you charge based on your capacity to the software independent of the hardware platform choices you may choose to run the software on. It is just stupid to think that running software on a cluster of 10 old Pentium 200mhz machines should be 10 times the cost of running the same software on one 2Ghz machine if both hardware configurations have the same computational potential.
I can't remember exactly, but back when I was working as a IBM mainframe software engineer I had a feeling the IBM and CA who provided various software for our mainframes charged some software based on MIPS (Million Instructions Per Second) ratings of the virtual machines that the software was running on. Why don't software companies just do the same thing. Establish a performance benchmark and charge based on that. That way you can use single, dual or multi core processors or multi CPU machines and not have to worry about all this licensing drama. If you real machine or "virtual machine" is bench-marked at x MIPS you pay y dollars, who cares what architecture you are running.
Heck I get at least 900 virus emails everyday sometimes over 2000 a day.
Thanks to the guys over at Clam Anti Virus and MailScanner most of these get caught at the mail server.
We have a daily humor mailing list with a few 100,000 subscribers and every time a new virus comes out we get blasted from all the unprotected windows/outlook express users.
To make sure we don't get infected and send out virus to all the users we use FreeBSD for our desktop OS and Evolution as our email client.
Oh and then there is all the spam we get sent, thanks to SpamAssassin for filtering most of this out.
OK I'm giving up on trying to join the mile high club, all the air hostesses I've approached where not too keen on my advances. Time now to go straight to the 100 mile high club!!!
Hey tell Nasa that to survice the winters on mars they only have to get some guy to go into the mountain where the alien machine is placed. But your hand on some funny looking device with a hand holder thing. once your hand goes in the hand holder thing the machine will melt all the stored ice and create an atmosphere.
Duh!!
You would think they would have seen "Total Recall" already, what have they been doing?
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I take the point you make about pseudoscience and free energy devices etc. It's interesting to note through that Tesla did believe in "free energy". His thought and experiments in wireless transmission of electrical energy was that people around the world could tap into his free energy system. It was free in that anybody could use it without cost, but it still had to be generated and he planned on tapping the massive hydroelectric potential to feed his network. Because there was no way to put up a meter and charge people for the use of this electricity he was considered a little crazy and could not find any serious backers for his project. (J. P. Morgan in fact pulled funding of the Warden-clyffe Tower project in 1905 after learning of Tesla's plans to use it to send free energy with the technology he was developing.) Tesla did, I understand, conduct practical experiments and successfully transmit power through wireless transmission over some distance with little loss.
;)
Tesla's business accumen I'd almost go as far to say was inversely proportional to his genius in invention.
I did a quick search on the 6 million I said I thought Westinghouse owed as royalty. I found that in 1907 Westinghouse paid him $216,000 to settle the royality problem which was a LOT less than the 12 million (not 6 million) that it was valued at that time. ref. I imagine 12 million dollars in 1907 would be worth hundreds if not billions today (if you didn't loose in the two may sharemarket crashes between then and now
Off their rocker... Tesla fanatics... them be fighting words!!!
We kind of have a LOT to thank Tesla for after all. Go read some of his patents if you have any doubts Selected Tesla Patents.
In my opinion if Tesla where alive today he would have been one of the biggest Open Source advocates around. The reason why everybody who turns on a light swich fed by AC current generated by one of Tesla generators doesn't thank him for it is mainy due to his lack of capitalist motivation. He believed in information and advancement for all mankind with his work, not making a few million for himself.
In fact Westinghouse owed Tesla many million (I think an estamate was around 6 million) for royalties on patents Westinghouse purchased on AC generators and motors. It would have bankrupted the Westinghouse business if they had to pay, so Tesla wrote the debt off and thanked Westinghouse in believing in AC currents when lunatics like Edison where running about trying to create a DC based domestic electrical system. He died a poor man basically because he donated his work on AC generators/motors to the people of America and the world by not enforcing royalties due.
Tesla is basically the exact opposite of Bill Gates. He actually created and invented things. And he didn't try and change people outrageous liscence and royaltiy fees every time people used his products. He believed in the betterment of man kind through his work, not becoming the richest guy in the world.
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I live in New Zealand and we refer to Aussie as a country all the time. In fact I went to Aussie in November for a friends wedding.
But perhaps we get special rights after those cheating aussie bastard bowled underarm against us in cricket. wikipedia
The sofware will be licenced for private use only...
Hey doesn't that sounds a lot like Netscapes marketing policy before Microsoft crushed them?
My thoughts also query if giving away software for free to limited numbers of high value customers isn't in fact an anti-competitive business practive by a convicted monopolist. Does giving away the software for free make the real value of the software $0, and by virtue of operating a monopoly in the Office Suite software market are they abusing this monolopy position charging ~= $500 to regular users?