My reference, the jargon file: Some people are confused over whether this word is appropriately 'UNIX' or 'Unix'; both forms are common, and used interchangeably. Dennis Ritchie says that the 'UNIX' spelling originally happened in CACM's 1974 paper The UNIX Time-Sharing System because "we had a new typesetter and troff had just been invented and we were intoxicated by being able to produce small caps." Later, dmr tried to get the spelling changed to 'Unix' in a couple of Bell Labs papers, on the grounds that the word is not acronymic. He failed, and eventually (his words) "wimped out" on the issue. So, while the trademark today is 'UNIX', both capitalizations are grounded in ancient usage; the Jargon File uses 'Unix' in deference to dmr's wishes.
"UNIX helped users with general computing, word processing and networking, and soon became a standard language."
Also note: Unix should be lowercase - it's not an acronym, it's just that at the same time it was created, so too was the print formatter's (troff?) smallcaps function. They got all excited and started using smallcaps for the word "unix" wherever it was found.
The first time I heard this idea, it was someone on slashdot suggesting it. I also saw the idea of 1x1 transparent gif bugs in spam mail as someone suggesting it on slashdot before I ever saw it in an actual spam.
Just think about that before you go posting things like "but the spammer could easily do X to get round it" - THEY'RE WATCHING YOU!
1) The GNU organisation started a kernel, and loads of programs, the programs were good 2) Linus made (and finished) a kernel, and was convinced to GPL it (although he doesn't care for licences himself) 3) The GNU moved their apps to linux, just until their own kernel is finished
So some questions: 1) Is GNU's kernel finished yet? 2) Will SCO be suing *them*?
I'm not being a troll, just showing my own experience - although slightly mis-phrased. Things like bittorrent and other P2P tech are fine - they have some degree of responsibility - it's just kazaa & friends I've never seen used legally (With the exception of the post above)
And ET too can be downloaded from many places other than kazaa anyway - so let me rephrase:
Is there something that *only* kazaa & co can do, and is also legal?
The only feature I've found that's unique to that family of apps is that they can be used to get things relatively anonymosly - not something that encourages legal use.
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Pre-edit> also, can you explain this? I was just popping up a webserver to get some files to some friends (note: legal), and it came up, strangely appropriately.
Unix isn't an acronym, it was only ever in uppercase because the guy who invented it had just finished a new smallcaps function in his print formatter and wanted to try it out
> avoid platform, compiler, and processor specific features
which leaves you with this --> stdio.h
I have yet to find a program of greater complexity that "hello world" that didn't require some hacking to get to work cross platform. Some things work sort-of OKish by using configure & friends, but they're making changes to the code.
And IMHO,
#ifdef __LINUX__ (one program) #endif
#ifdef __WIN32__ (another program, which does the same thing) #endif
I don't even need to read the links to know that that prof is some anti-java zealot. why? because anyone who spells java in uppercase obviously doesn't know what they're on about:p
From what I hear, SCO are going to go after BSD as soon as they win the case against linux - seeing as they now own all standard POSIX/unix headers, they thus own all POSIX/unix OSes
> Don't most honest, law-abiding people nowadays disapprove of criminals profiting from their crimes?
Yes, but most people don't consider mitnick a criminal - I can't actually remember what he did (I did know, I just forget:/ ), but whatever it was he's been somewhat over-punished for it.
Technicality nazi: Q3 refuses to install on anything with less than 64MB RAM:)
I actually have tried to install it on my box of 200MHz / 32MB RAM / No graphics acceleration, and after buying a bit more ram it gets a surprisingly good ~1fps!
o) Have a list of things OSS has done to death and repeatedly perfected
Then some large company (ie red hat) pays developers to get on with the bits that aren't so much fun, but are needed. The second list also serves to redirect people who are wanting to start their own project to a similar one that's already half done and needs finishing.
How about, instead of having a few dozen networks, we just come up with one? It works fine for things like the phone system and email (even though there're seperate companies, they're one network), so why not just have one protocol with everything built in?
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My reference, the jargon file:
Some people are confused over whether this word is appropriately 'UNIX' or 'Unix'; both forms are common, and used interchangeably. Dennis Ritchie says that the 'UNIX' spelling originally happened in CACM's 1974 paper The UNIX Time-Sharing System because "we had a new typesetter and troff had just been invented and we were intoxicated by being able to produce small caps." Later, dmr tried to get the spelling changed to 'Unix' in a couple of Bell Labs papers, on the grounds that the word is not acronymic. He failed, and eventually (his words) "wimped out" on the issue. So, while the trademark today is 'UNIX', both capitalizations are grounded in ancient usage; the Jargon File uses 'Unix' in deference to dmr's wishes.
Hmmm... methinks it'd be more likely to be distro vs distro, Vim vs Emacs, etc.... /nick Shish[Gentoo]
"UNIX helped users with general computing, word processing and networking, and soon became a standard language."
Also note: Unix should be lowercase - it's not an acronym, it's just that at the same time it was created, so too was the print formatter's (troff?) smallcaps function. They got all excited and started using smallcaps for the word "unix" wherever it was found.
The first time I heard this idea, it was someone on slashdot suggesting it. I also saw the idea of 1x1 transparent gif bugs in spam mail as someone suggesting it on slashdot before I ever saw it in an actual spam.
Just think about that before you go posting things like "but the spammer could easily do X to get round it" - THEY'RE WATCHING YOU!
More accurately:
1) The GNU organisation started a kernel, and loads of programs, the programs were good
2) Linus made (and finished) a kernel, and was convinced to GPL it (although he doesn't care for licences himself)
3) The GNU moved their apps to linux, just until their own kernel is finished
So some questions:
1) Is GNU's kernel finished yet?
2) Will SCO be suing *them*?
Dupe checker on slashdot = good
/.)
Dupe checker in school = bad
wha?
*does the "double standards are fun!" dance*
(PS. I know they're different, but it'd be the same tech, and IMHO dupe checking for essays is *more* important than dupe-checking on
I'm not being a troll, just showing my own experience - although slightly mis-phrased. Things like bittorrent and other P2P tech are fine - they have some degree of responsibility - it's just kazaa & friends I've never seen used legally (With the exception of the post above)
/.hash=68b98e717c724b6a8193ffe3239051d85c3d49c4 HTTP/1.1/ 1/2004 20:12:07] [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] [.//.hash=68b98e717c724b6a8193ffe3239051d85c3d49c4 ] [false]
And ET too can be downloaded from many places other than kazaa anyway - so let me rephrase:
Is there something that *only* kazaa & co can do, and is also legal?
The only feature I've found that's unique to that family of apps is that they can be used to get things relatively anonymosly - not something that encourages legal use.
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Pre-edit> also, can you explain this? I was just popping up a webserver to get some files to some friends (note: legal), and it came up, strangely appropriately.
GET
Host: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:80
UserAgent: KazaaClient Nov 3 2002 20:29:03
X-Kazaa-Username: MateoEsMuySmellyoso
X-Kazaa-Network: AirOnSourDough
X-Kazaa-IP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:2912
X-Kazaa-SupernodeIP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:80
Connection: close
X-Kazaa-XferId: 8845886
X-Kazaa-XferUid: A0PhKs39gORdSkZxy28YB4LCwaL1d1T6rR9Kvf9mfyo=
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Unix isn't an acronym, it was only ever in uppercase because the guy who invented it had just finished a new smallcaps function in his print formatter and wanted to try it out
> avoid platform, compiler, and processor specific features
which leaves you with this --> stdio.h
I have yet to find a program of greater complexity that "hello world" that didn't require some hacking to get to work cross platform. Some things work sort-of OKish by using configure & friends, but they're making changes to the code.
And IMHO,
#ifdef __LINUX__
(one program)
#endif
#ifdef __WIN32__
(another program, which does the same thing)
#endif
doesn't count as portable code
I don't even need to read the links to know that that prof is some anti-java zealot. why? because anyone who spells java in uppercase obviously doesn't know what they're on about :p
Slightly off topic, but is that squiggle the transmeta logo? Their site looks very much the same colour, but I don't see the logo itself there...
My first though on seeing it was "Who made debian green?"
http://www.psillustrated.com/hr_glove.html
:p)
"fits like a glove (literally) and uses wrist movements for control. USES ONLY ONE HAND.(!)"
(I should comment here, but I can't think of anything
> can they survive a barrage of 7.62mm armor-piercing bullets? I think not.
They can too! My server farm is made of XBoxes!*
(* Lie)
Ugh, too much internet advertising - At first sight I thought that was the latest model of X10, the X-Panty-Spy...
From what I hear, SCO are going to go after BSD as soon as they win the case against linux - seeing as they now own all standard POSIX/unix headers, they thus own all POSIX/unix OSes
> Don't most honest, law-abiding people nowadays disapprove of criminals profiting from their crimes?
:/ ), but whatever it was he's been somewhat over-punished for it.
Yes, but most people don't consider mitnick a criminal - I can't actually remember what he did (I did know, I just forget
From the wasabi (WA3 rendering system) FAQ:
/that/, but it was very close...
How long until the linux version?
STFU, BITCH!
Actually they didn't say
What about windows? Hasn't QT/win32 been dropped? (the free version, at least)
Technicality nazi: Q3 refuses to install on anything with less than 64MB RAM :)
I actually have tried to install it on my box of 200MHz / 32MB RAM / No graphics acceleration, and after buying a bit more ram it gets a surprisingly good ~1fps!
> Mozilla is also vulnerable
IE says: microsoft.com
Moz says: microsoft.com%01%00@secunia.com
You lose.
Pretty simple idea:
o) Have a list of things OSS doesn't have
o) Have a list of things OSS has done to death and repeatedly perfected
Then some large company (ie red hat) pays developers to get on with the bits that aren't so much fun, but are needed. The second list also serves to redirect people who are wanting to start their own project to a similar one that's already half done and needs finishing.
Although it works as a fine substitute for IMG in internet explorer - so n00bs who write "image" instead of "img" will be writing IE-only pages...
How about, instead of having a few dozen networks, we just come up with one? It works fine for things like the phone system and email (even though there're seperate companies, they're one network), so why not just have one protocol with everything built in?
Intels are beautiful on the inside? Macs aren't?
Oh yeah, thanks dude :)