No copy protection's nice and all, but I want to evaluate the game. I floated around their site a bit and didn't find a demo or evaluation copy. Anybody know if one's in development?
The only real reason I'd have for wanting a copy of the game (Besides backup) is to give it a run before I buy it. I like their approach here. "Well if he's not going to buy it, at least let him try it, then we can still reward him when he buys it."
I appreciate that they're not treating me like a theif, but I don't want them to forget that demo versions are a must.
"But like MOO3, it doesn't run on linux. Or did this change?"
I hate to sound rude here, but if you're really interested in playing games, you should seriously consider dual booting with Windows 2000 or something. It'll be a while before Linux has a respectable gaming library.
Not trying to troll here but trying to be practical. Why miss out on the good games? I'll be switching to Linux in the next year or so (Lightwave's slowly making it's way over to Linux, so I can finally do my work on it...) but I'm always going to have Win2k as an alternative OS so I can keep playing games.
Personally, I'd rather have the games than flip off MS.
"Case A) Windows XP - you get letters from the BSA and eventually (implied) a visit from the Feds who will take everything whether you're guilty or not, after which the burden of proof is on you to prove you are not another dastardly mass market pirate organization."
Has that actually happened, or is this overactive imagination talking here?
"Why do the yanks always seem to want to change the titles of foreign movies? "
Uh, we didn't have a say in it. Why don't you talk to the Japanese Movie Studio that's prepping it for release?
I mean seriously, did you think we took a vote on it or something? Maybe an American Idol style voting system? It's somebody's perception of us 'yanks', not our preference.
In this case, it's that Cowboy Bebop is a damn good show. It's earned its rep without relying too heavily on being anime.
As for the attraction to it, I honestly can't say for sure. I do know that it's very imaginative visually and very dramatic, unlike American cartoons which are usually too cutesy.
To be fair, though, there's lots of anime that sucks. On the flip side, though, at least there's the visual interest to it. Ghost in a Shell was BORING but it had some damn cool things to look at.
I guess you could say it's thee sci-fi version of Britney Spheres.
"Uh, 3D, ya know? Like depth and all that? Ever seen a 3d movie? Like that."
The answer's not as simple as that. I think by 3D he means "X, Y, and D". In other words, 2D animated image.
Technically a 3D monitor (4d?) would be X, Y, Z, and D. So there'd be depth. Or would there? I mean, you couldn't really have 2 pixels at the same X, Y, and D co-ordinates unless you had either a volumetric display or a multi layered display. It'd be more like 2.5D (3.5D if you count time...) since your depth channel would be pretty limited.
To answer his question, it'll be two images simultaneously that give your brain enough information to extract the depth information. It's not a true extra dimension, though.
"Is there going to be any legitimate non-gaming or high end science usage for something like this? I can't see this being relevant to any more than 1/100 of the computer using populace."
3D Modelers, such as myself, would find it cool. However, I get the hint you're looking for a mass market appeal which 3D Modelling doesn't realy cover.
However, the time could be right when 3D printers become consumer level. There'll be fewer surprises when the object's actually printed...
"Life would be underwater, in an ocean tens of kilometers deep, the radiations won't penetrate that far. So don't rule out Europa."
Just wanted to bring up a point that's not considered very often: Life here on Earth exists in some VERY harsh environments. I don't think there's a natural area of Earth that's completely devoid of life. If you go underwater deep enough, you'll find life forms that exist without any light reaching them near some very hot thermal vents in the ocean floor.
Frankly, I'd be surprised if an ocean bearing planet or moon didn't have life.
"If you are an ISP and you want to charge people for bandwidth caused by worms and DoS attacks, put that in your user agreement. If you are willing to swallow the cost of attacks, put that in your agreement. There's no need for regulations or insurance yet."
One thing I've observed about Slashdot Community is that there's a never ending search for the 'One answer to all problems'. Unfortunately, our world is far too diverse for that. And to tell you the truth, it's better off that way.
The election was virtually 50/50. That means that no matter who became president, half the people would be upset. This conversation would still be happening if Gore made it.
Man this stupid debate's gotten old. He's our president now, live with it. His term will be up soon, you'll have a chance to vote.
"No only do you stop getting ads that even the most brain dead ad-blocker could have gotten rid of for free, you also get to be Taco's personal dupe checker! I can't wait to send my money in!"
"Or would you rather PREVENT everyone from buying any computer unless Windows were bundled and paid for, regardless of what the buyer wants or needs?"
Heh I never said that. Here's what I did say:
"*Shrug* You get more when you pay for it, so it's a feature."
I was trying to explain to the guy that it's not like he gets nothing just becaues he doesn't like Windows. Lots of people don't like MS so they don't want to get the OS, which I'm fine with, but to say or imply it's completely useless is false. There's a very good reason to have it, if you're into games.
That is what I was arguing. I never said anything to the effect of "you should just accept it". I wasn't making the case that MS should be allowed to do it etc.
I find it amusing that a troll's calling me a troll.:)
"I just 'upgraded' to Win2k. It hasn't crashed on me yet, and 95% of what I use it for is gaming."
Good call. I think 2k's a lot more reliable. That's what I run on my desktop. The problem is the future. You can't install DX9 on Win95, if memory serves. MS'll can 2k support before too long.
Interesting. I'd normally suggest downloading the latest video driver, but I can't help but wonder if maybe the sound card's the issue. This isn't a very scientific hypothesis, but I have an SB-Audigy here at work (desktop) that was giving me BSOD's left and right. I ended up having to dump the driver that came on the disc and download the latest one. Once I did that, it's been rock solid. Can't say I'm excited about buying another Creative product for a while, though. I haven't had trouble like that on any other machine.
"If you say it doesn't crash you've just proven you're a zealot arguing in a fact vacuum too. XP does crash. I've done it before. Cygwin XFree86 has some bugs that cause blue screens consistently. Medieval: Total War and Ghost Recon have bugs that cause blue screens."
I've got a Dell Inspiron 8200 running Windows XP since December. I've spent quite a few hours playing Deus Ex, Star Trek Armada II, Master of Orion 3, and Gansters 2 on it. I also do a lot of 3D work in Lightwave. I've had exactly 1 blue screen with XP, and it happened after 6 days of operation using the suspend mode every evening.
Am I a zealot, or am I somebody that's just providing data? I'm no fan of MS, but I've found XP to be pretty reliable. It's definitely reliable enough that I take it for granted. A big part of this equation is that I've got good hardware and good drives. If you're having BSOD's, the first place I'm going to look is at your driver and hardware combination. XP wouldn't be my first assumption.
No copy protection's nice and all, but I want to evaluate the game. I floated around their site a bit and didn't find a demo or evaluation copy. Anybody know if one's in development?
The only real reason I'd have for wanting a copy of the game (Besides backup) is to give it a run before I buy it. I like their approach here. "Well if he's not going to buy it, at least let him try it, then we can still reward him when he buys it."
I appreciate that they're not treating me like a theif, but I don't want them to forget that demo versions are a must.
"But like MOO3, it doesn't run on linux. Or did this change?"
I hate to sound rude here, but if you're really interested in playing games, you should seriously consider dual booting with Windows 2000 or something. It'll be a while before Linux has a respectable gaming library.
Not trying to troll here but trying to be practical. Why miss out on the good games? I'll be switching to Linux in the next year or so (Lightwave's slowly making it's way over to Linux, so I can finally do my work on it...) but I'm always going to have Win2k as an alternative OS so I can keep playing games.
Personally, I'd rather have the games than flip off MS.
"Case A) Windows XP - you get letters from the BSA and eventually (implied) a visit from the Feds who will take everything whether you're guilty or not, after which the burden of proof is on you to prove you are not another dastardly mass market pirate organization."
Has that actually happened, or is this overactive imagination talking here?
"Why do the yanks always seem to want to change the titles of foreign movies? "
Uh, we didn't have a say in it. Why don't you talk to the Japanese Movie Studio that's prepping it for release?
I mean seriously, did you think we took a vote on it or something? Maybe an American Idol style voting system? It's somebody's perception of us 'yanks', not our preference.
"What is it that people see in anime? "
In this case, it's that Cowboy Bebop is a damn good show. It's earned its rep without relying too heavily on being anime.
As for the attraction to it, I honestly can't say for sure. I do know that it's very imaginative visually and very dramatic, unlike American cartoons which are usually too cutesy.
To be fair, though, there's lots of anime that sucks. On the flip side, though, at least there's the visual interest to it. Ghost in a Shell was BORING but it had some damn cool things to look at.
I guess you could say it's thee sci-fi version of Britney Spheres.
"conflict of interest?"
More like interest of conflict.
*Jon Stewart Look*
"This is a godsend ! Gnutella + broadband + 3D monitors + swedish pr0n. Think of the possibilities ! mmmmm.... goes into a deep thought ;)"
You'll shoot your eye out!
Heh. Sorry I just pictured Ralphie delivering that comment.
"Uh, 3D, ya know? Like depth and all that? Ever seen a 3d movie? Like that."
The answer's not as simple as that. I think by 3D he means "X, Y, and D". In other words, 2D animated image.
Technically a 3D monitor (4d?) would be X, Y, Z, and D. So there'd be depth. Or would there? I mean, you couldn't really have 2 pixels at the same X, Y, and D co-ordinates unless you had either a volumetric display or a multi layered display. It'd be more like 2.5D (3.5D if you count time...) since your depth channel would be pretty limited.
To answer his question, it'll be two images simultaneously that give your brain enough information to extract the depth information. It's not a true extra dimension, though.
"Is there going to be any legitimate non-gaming or high end science usage for something like this? I can't see this being relevant to any more than 1/100 of the computer using populace."
3D Modelers, such as myself, would find it cool. However, I get the hint you're looking for a mass market appeal which 3D Modelling doesn't realy cover.
However, the time could be right when 3D printers become consumer level. There'll be fewer surprises when the object's actually printed...
6.7 gigs? Ah! Now we know where that Longhorn beta was leaked.
...what's the latency/ping times like on Internet2?
"Life would be underwater, in an ocean tens of kilometers deep, the radiations won't penetrate that far. So don't rule out Europa."
Just wanted to bring up a point that's not considered very often: Life here on Earth exists in some VERY harsh environments. I don't think there's a natural area of Earth that's completely devoid of life. If you go underwater deep enough, you'll find life forms that exist without any light reaching them near some very hot thermal vents in the ocean floor.
Frankly, I'd be surprised if an ocean bearing planet or moon didn't have life.
"If you are an ISP and you want to charge people for bandwidth caused by worms and DoS attacks, put that in your user agreement. If you are willing to swallow the cost of attacks, put that in your agreement. There's no need for regulations or insurance yet."
One thing I've observed about Slashdot Community is that there's a never ending search for the 'One answer to all problems'. Unfortunately, our world is far too diverse for that. And to tell you the truth, it's better off that way.
"I mean, the toughest part about this plan is the "making friend" bit... but I'm sure that's not too tough, right? Any one?"
But Farscape's on tonight!
"We did not elect him!"
The election was virtually 50/50. That means that no matter who became president, half the people would be upset. This conversation would still be happening if Gore made it.
Man this stupid debate's gotten old. He's our president now, live with it. His term will be up soon, you'll have a chance to vote.
"No only do you stop getting ads that even the most brain dead ad-blocker could have gotten rid of for free, you also get to be Taco's personal dupe checker! I can't wait to send my money in!"
I'm holding out for the Bork edition.
"Or would you rather PREVENT everyone from buying any computer unless Windows were bundled and paid for, regardless of what the buyer wants or needs?"
:)
Heh I never said that. Here's what I did say:
"*Shrug* You get more when you pay for it, so it's a feature."
I was trying to explain to the guy that it's not like he gets nothing just becaues he doesn't like Windows. Lots of people don't like MS so they don't want to get the OS, which I'm fine with, but to say or imply it's completely useless is false. There's a very good reason to have it, if you're into games.
That is what I was arguing. I never said anything to the effect of "you should just accept it". I wasn't making the case that MS should be allowed to do it etc.
I find it amusing that a troll's calling me a troll.
Oops, you're right. I phrased that badly. Meant to say it's not as bad as you were implying.
:)
I'm having a slow brain day.
"Wow, you just don't stop, do you? I - duh - have better uses for my money."
Heh. That's fine, but if you're going to express that try it in a less humorous way!
Seriously though, that's not at all what I was talking about. -duh- I was just offering you a better term to use. Perhaps you could stay on topic?
"I just 'upgraded' to Win2k. It hasn't crashed on me yet, and 95% of what I use it for is gaming."
Good call. I think 2k's a lot more reliable. That's what I run on my desktop. The problem is the future. You can't install DX9 on Win95, if memory serves. MS'll can 2k support before too long.
Interesting. I'd normally suggest downloading the latest video driver, but I can't help but wonder if maybe the sound card's the issue. This isn't a very scientific hypothesis, but I have an SB-Audigy here at work (desktop) that was giving me BSOD's left and right. I ended up having to dump the driver that came on the disc and download the latest one. Once I did that, it's been rock solid. Can't say I'm excited about buying another Creative product for a while, though. I haven't had trouble like that on any other machine.
"Me, I'll choose a nice dinner out with fine wine for me and a date. --M"
;)
$90 buys you a date? Geez, musta been a while since I checked the prices on that.
(You should have said: "I didn't have the $90 because I bought a nice girl a dinner last night...")
"Ah, but then how do you guarantee the CD will survive the retention period."
That's hardly a new question that comes up from using CD's. The same is true for paper.
"In my situation being forced to pay for Windows is most certainly a tax I don't need. --M"
*Shrug* You get more when you pay for it, so it's a feature.
"If you say it doesn't crash you've just proven you're a zealot arguing in a fact vacuum too. XP does crash. I've done it before. Cygwin XFree86 has some bugs that cause blue screens consistently.
Medieval: Total War and Ghost Recon have bugs that cause blue screens."
I've got a Dell Inspiron 8200 running Windows XP since December. I've spent quite a few hours playing Deus Ex, Star Trek Armada II, Master of Orion 3, and Gansters 2 on it. I also do a lot of 3D work in Lightwave. I've had exactly 1 blue screen with XP, and it happened after 6 days of operation using the suspend mode every evening.
Am I a zealot, or am I somebody that's just providing data? I'm no fan of MS, but I've found XP to be pretty reliable. It's definitely reliable enough that I take it for granted. A big part of this equation is that I've got good hardware and good drives. If you're having BSOD's, the first place I'm going to look is at your driver and hardware combination. XP wouldn't be my first assumption.