"Use another account for regular everyday things, and make sure it sin't something simple like abc123@hotmail.com. I do that and never get spam to my real accounts. This whole spam thing is way overblown."
You remind me of the guy who fixed his leaky roof by using an umbrella in his house.
I hope you all realize that at best you're buying time, not solving the Spam problem. It won't take long for these guys to find ways through the filter.
The problems need to be solved on a different level. The problem is not the messages themselves, it's that people are allowed to send these messages to anybody they want without any real challenges as to their authenticity.
Let me explain how I have things set up right now, and hopefully my stance on this issue will be a little clearer. All my messages come into the same mailbox. I have a bunch of email aliases, though. If I sign up for Slashdot, for example, then I create a new alias like 'slashdot@insertdomainnamehere.com'. I then add that email address into my 'email allowed' list so that it gets funneled through into a visible folder. If that address gets abused, I shut down the email alias.
My personal friends are treated a little differently. Once they email me, I add their address into my list of friends, and they get put into a friends folder. I treat this differently than a registration place because my friends all need one address to contact me at, I don't mind them sharing it with each other. If my address changes, then their messages still get through.
I plan on going farther down the road. I'm going to give people an email address, and when they email it they get an automated message with instructdions on how to 'request permission' to send me email. When permission is granted, they don't get that message anymore. It basically means that the only messages that get through to me are the ones that have a human behind them to read the response and then go through the proper channels to reach me.
I'm not claiming to have done anyting new here. I'm basically mimicking the way IM works, and I'm doing it without having to do anything real fancy. Outlook's Rules Wizard is doing quite a bit of the work here. But since people actually have to take the time to request my authorization, it means that it's a message meant for ME as opposed to a message meant for anybody who's out there. With an approach like this, it'd be a lot harder for spammers to get through.
"They must not use Linux on the holodeck. It screws up all the time. That's windoze for sure."
I don't think it's Windows. Nobody on the ship was ever bothered with a message like "There's a Windows Holodeck Update available for download, would you like to interrupt your game to install it now?"
It's probably Linux since all the content they ever viewed in that system was public domain.
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"It's funny that we're able to discuss this point on a site that is essentially comprised of a couple of people and a script."
It's funny that we're using a site built by a couple of guys recreating a well established forum of communication that had alreaady been done a million times before?
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"Not to nitpick or anything, but OnlineChoice.com was the company that could have been run by a script instead of 70 people. Not CalendarCentral."
Yep, you're right. It's too early for me. Heh. Thanks for being polite in pointing out my bone-headed mistake, it's appreciated.
"It is 39284.23429 seconds since the designated marker was set."
*grumble*
"Computer, man time".....
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"How many times can you read about a company and have the comments boil down to "they were dumb, they went out of business"? That's pretty much the outer limits of Kaplan's critical and analytic skills."
Based on the excerpt provided on/., I doubt the guy really knew a whole lot what he was talking about. The Calender.COM example stuck with me. "It could have been done with a script". Not true. First you need people to build something on that level, then you need people to maintain the servers and fix problems that go wrong, then you need people working on making it better and better so that they don't lose to things like Exchange.
I have no doubt that they were over-capitalized, that they could have done more with less. But let's be realistic, the guy claimed they could have done with a couple of people and a script. No. What probably really happened was a good chunk of the 70 people there were sales people making cold calls to get companies to try out their calender stuff. If they could get whole corps to sign on, they'd instantly have a big account with lots of people using it. Doesn't sound so mindless now does it?
The reality is that if they'd gone with a more Google-esque approach, they'd probably have done better for themselves. But who knew that then? They had 20 mil to spend on it and they probably felt they needed to start big and quickly rake in the customers to maintain that.
I definitely won't be buying that book. I don't think the guy's capable of interesting insight into a.BOM. I already read the list off the top 100 business failures in 2000, so why pay for the extended version?
"Basically, you have a bunch of uptight people over there, over a technology that hasn't even been used by the public yet. Fortunately, other cities, like Sacramento, are waiting to see whether there are any problems caused first, before acting."
Yeah, damn San Fran for worrying about public saftey.
So why's your faith so high in humans that you don't think problems will erupt? That's one thing I find really amusing about Slashdot. On one hand, everybody wants cellphones virtually banned because they think nobody's responsible enough to use one, but they're okay with heavy motorized vehicles plowing through pedestrian traffic without incident.
"Are they going to ban skateboards, roller blades, and inline electric scooters as well? Seaways are supposed to be safer then these things."
On the sidewalks (like the article talks about...)? Yes.
"Bleh, fucking lame ass government stifling innovation because of imagined phantoms."
You don't think people riding heavy motorized machinery on sidewalks is going to be perfectly safe? We can't even keep people from being hit by cars, and they don't even drive on sidewalks!
"Certainly they shouldn't be banned until they have been shown to be dangerous!"
Why? Did you fail physics class? But if you'd like me to prove it to you, just stand right there...
"Pretty sensationalist headline for the Journal. For those who didn't read the article, it's about whether the X-Men figurines are toys or dolls. Obviously the status of fictional characters as "human" or not is completely absurd, and not at all what the case was about."
Doesn't matter, the cloning ban is still in effect.
"Huh? That's how I get my dual monitor setup; geforce in the agp, old pci gfx card in the 1st pci slot (some cards still complain if they're not in the first slot). Losing my first pci slot is NOT worth it, as I need my second monitor for photoshopping and 3dsmax."
Starting at $150 you can get NVidia Geforce cards that natively support dual monitor, even if they have the DVI output on the back. You just need an adapter to go from DVI to Analog.
I am running a Geforce 4 TI 4600 right now with dual monitors at 1600 by 1200, works great. Before I was using an Xtasy Geforce 4 MX that had two analog ports, it worked great as well. Get one of those cards, plug both your monitors into them, and you won't regret it. As a bonus, keep your PCI card and you can plug a 3rd monitor in. I have a friend that's doing that today. He seriously has 3 monitors hooked up that way.
"Radio is dead because I can rip all my CDs and store them on my MP3 player of choice. All my songs. I can put it on random and how is that different from commerical free, babble free, excellent reception radio?"
So.. how do you find new music?
"Who wants to be TOLD what to watch or listen to, and when?"
I'm not a big fan of radio, but I find that comment misleading. Radio's something you monitor. You don't get blasted with info about what time a song will play like TV does. And since everything on the radio's purchasable at some point (unlike TV), then this particular argument fades away.
It works great for TV, but I'm not sure you're doing much more than oversimplifying and twisting details around.
"In Cincinnati its no different. Its either Clearchannel or Infinity. Although we do get WOXY [woxy.com] which is independantly owned and operated and quite good."
"wow! this guy's pretty darn wild! I bet for a big night out he turns on the TV and drinks a whole light beer. I mean, c'mon - with all the possibilities for nanotechnology, having self-polishing shoes is the best he could come up with? "
Ugh. Did you even read the F'n A? It's really frustrating when somebody takes the time to understand the capabilities of something they understand only to have the listener get all disappointed because he didn't invent a replicator or something.
The whole point of what he was saying was that nature has solved a LOT of problems we have today, and on the nano-level we can understand what it's doing and incorporate reserach that nature has already done into modern society. His example wasn't cool because it could make the dir resistant shoes, it was cool because it meant that they could emulate nature. The result is future materials would be longer lasting. Dare I say: mold-proof houses?
I'd normally concede that they could have presented their case better, but in this example they described the bits of it that were interesting enough that the application was merely an example.
"it looks that just as with other technologies (www, e-commerce,...) we're gonna have to wait for the pron industry to break new ground and lead the way... oh, the possiblities!!! Wait a minute, don't. Eughh!"
Dude, don't ever leave yourself open like that again. Anybody else here resist the urge to poke fun at a guy who suggested the porn industry use nanomachines to provide a service he might want?
"Real gamers would buy a gamecube to supplement their PC for gaming, not choose the half-assed in-between console."
Half assed? Graphically, the XBOX is not showing any signs of inferiority to the GameCube. Microsoft is not confusing the XBOX for a PC by selling/publishing anything but games for it. As a game machine, it is anything but half-assed. (Maintenance could prove to be an issue, but in the year it's been out that doesn't appear to be a problem.)
What's funny is I'm not an XBOX fan. I love my GameCube, I'm a self-described Nintendo zealot. Even with that, I would not describe the XBOX as a machine that can't decide between being a PC or a game machine.
I hope you all realize that modding an XBox so you can do PVR stuff is going to be twisted into piracy by places like the MPAA.
I'm not trolling here, or telling you you're doing something wrong, I'm just warning you to brace for irrational attacks on it. It's the type of thing that'll keep the DMCA around.
"Every XBox you buy is helping Microsoft partially recover their losses incurred by manufacturing and development. Did it not occur to you that you are paying Microsoft money for the privilege of using an XBox? Or do you just shoplift them from Best Buy?"
Did it occur to you that some of us want to play games instead of pretending that we're "beatin down the man!"?
"Thanks, you Americans are so sensitive. The whole world has to mourn for your disasters, but when people get killed in other countries it's just an opportunuity to make dumb jokes."
Oops. I feel like a shithead.
I clicked the 'parent' link on your post and realized it wasn't my post you were referring to.
I apologize, the mistake is mine. I just got upset at the thought that people thought I was making light of a situation like that.
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I asked about the people that died after I made that post. I didn't even know if people were dead or not. So thanks for putting the worst possible spin on my obviously light-hearted comment. Couldn't be civil and ask me to clarify, could you?
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"Use another account for regular everyday things, and make sure it sin't something simple like abc123@hotmail.com. I do that and never get spam to my real accounts. This whole spam thing is way overblown."
You remind me of the guy who fixed his leaky roof by using an umbrella in his house.
I hope you all realize that at best you're buying time, not solving the Spam problem. It won't take long for these guys to find ways through the filter.
The problems need to be solved on a different level. The problem is not the messages themselves, it's that people are allowed to send these messages to anybody they want without any real challenges as to their authenticity.
Let me explain how I have things set up right now, and hopefully my stance on this issue will be a little clearer. All my messages come into the same mailbox. I have a bunch of email aliases, though. If I sign up for Slashdot, for example, then I create a new alias like 'slashdot@insertdomainnamehere.com'. I then add that email address into my 'email allowed' list so that it gets funneled through into a visible folder. If that address gets abused, I shut down the email alias.
My personal friends are treated a little differently. Once they email me, I add their address into my list of friends, and they get put into a friends folder. I treat this differently than a registration place because my friends all need one address to contact me at, I don't mind them sharing it with each other. If my address changes, then their messages still get through.
I plan on going farther down the road. I'm going to give people an email address, and when they email it they get an automated message with instructdions on how to 'request permission' to send me email. When permission is granted, they don't get that message anymore. It basically means that the only messages that get through to me are the ones that have a human behind them to read the response and then go through the proper channels to reach me.
I'm not claiming to have done anyting new here. I'm basically mimicking the way IM works, and I'm doing it without having to do anything real fancy. Outlook's Rules Wizard is doing quite a bit of the work here. But since people actually have to take the time to request my authorization, it means that it's a message meant for ME as opposed to a message meant for anybody who's out there. With an approach like this, it'd be a lot harder for spammers to get through.
"They must not use Linux on the holodeck. It screws up all the time. That's windoze for sure."
I don't think it's Windows. Nobody on the ship was ever bothered with a message like "There's a Windows Holodeck Update available for download, would you like to interrupt your game to install it now?"
It's probably Linux since all the content they ever viewed in that system was public domain.
Heh. I wonder if anybody'll get that. Oh well.
"get a fucking girlfriend you artless fucker"
Heh. I can see Crossfire has started without me.
"It's funny that we're able to discuss this point on a site that is essentially comprised of a couple of people and a script."
It's funny that we're using a site built by a couple of guys recreating a well established forum of communication that had alreaady been done a million times before?
"Not to nitpick or anything, but OnlineChoice.com was the company that could have been run by a script instead of 70 people. Not CalendarCentral."
Yep, you're right. It's too early for me. Heh. Thanks for being polite in pointing out my bone-headed mistake, it's appreciated.
"Computer, what time is it?"
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"command not found"
*sigh*
"Computer, time."
"It is 39284.23429 seconds since the designated marker was set."
*grumble*
"Computer, man time"
"How many times can you read about a company and have the comments boil down to "they were dumb, they went out of business"? That's pretty much the outer limits of Kaplan's critical and analytic skills."
/., I doubt the guy really knew a whole lot what he was talking about. The Calender .COM example stuck with me. "It could have been done with a script". Not true. First you need people to build something on that level, then you need people to maintain the servers and fix problems that go wrong, then you need people working on making it better and better so that they don't lose to things like Exchange.
.BOM. I already read the list off the top 100 business failures in 2000, so why pay for the extended version?
Based on the excerpt provided on
I have no doubt that they were over-capitalized, that they could have done more with less. But let's be realistic, the guy claimed they could have done with a couple of people and a script. No. What probably really happened was a good chunk of the 70 people there were sales people making cold calls to get companies to try out their calender stuff. If they could get whole corps to sign on, they'd instantly have a big account with lots of people using it. Doesn't sound so mindless now does it?
The reality is that if they'd gone with a more Google-esque approach, they'd probably have done better for themselves. But who knew that then? They had 20 mil to spend on it and they probably felt they needed to start big and quickly rake in the customers to maintain that.
I definitely won't be buying that book. I don't think the guy's capable of interesting insight into a
"Basically, you have a bunch of uptight people over there, over a technology that hasn't even been used by the public yet. Fortunately, other cities, like Sacramento, are waiting to see whether there are any problems caused first, before acting."
Yeah, damn San Fran for worrying about public saftey.
So why's your faith so high in humans that you don't think problems will erupt? That's one thing I find really amusing about Slashdot. On one hand, everybody wants cellphones virtually banned because they think nobody's responsible enough to use one, but they're okay with heavy motorized vehicles plowing through pedestrian traffic without incident.
"I thought one of the main thing about Segway is that it was supposed to be sooooo intuitive like walking? what's up with the multi-hour training?"
When the Worlds of Marketing and Reality Collide, next on FOX.
"Are they going to ban skateboards, roller blades, and inline electric scooters as well? Seaways are supposed to be safer then these things."
On the sidewalks (like the article talks about...)? Yes.
"Bleh, fucking lame ass government stifling innovation because of imagined phantoms."
You don't think people riding heavy motorized machinery on sidewalks is going to be perfectly safe? We can't even keep people from being hit by cars, and they don't even drive on sidewalks!
"Certainly they shouldn't be banned until they have been shown to be dangerous!"
Why? Did you fail physics class? But if you'd like me to prove it to you, just stand right there...
"Pretty sensationalist headline for the Journal. For those who didn't read the article, it's about whether the X-Men figurines are toys or dolls. Obviously the status of fictional characters as "human" or not is completely absurd, and not at all what the case was about."
Doesn't matter, the cloning ban is still in effect.
... at least Michael Jackson will have to pay taxes now.
"Parent should be modded "+1, Pop-culture reference that pre-dates most readers"
Heh I got modded as informative. Part of me thinks somebody didn't get the reference and thought I was giving them a fact heh.
"Huh? That's how I get my dual monitor setup; geforce in the agp, old pci gfx card in the 1st pci slot (some cards still complain if they're not in the first slot). Losing my first pci slot is NOT worth it, as I need my second monitor for photoshopping and 3dsmax."
Starting at $150 you can get NVidia Geforce cards that natively support dual monitor, even if they have the DVI output on the back. You just need an adapter to go from DVI to Analog.
I am running a Geforce 4 TI 4600 right now with dual monitors at 1600 by 1200, works great. Before I was using an Xtasy Geforce 4 MX that had two analog ports, it worked great as well. Get one of those cards, plug both your monitors into them, and you won't regret it. As a bonus, keep your PCI card and you can plug a 3rd monitor in. I have a friend that's doing that today. He seriously has 3 monitors hooked up that way.
"Radio is dead because I can rip all my CDs and store them on my MP3 player of choice. All my songs. I can put it on random and how is that different from commerical free, babble free, excellent reception radio?"
So.. how do you find new music?
"Who wants to be TOLD what to watch or listen to, and when?"
I'm not a big fan of radio, but I find that comment misleading. Radio's something you monitor. You don't get blasted with info about what time a song will play like TV does. And since everything on the radio's purchasable at some point (unlike TV), then this particular argument fades away.
It works great for TV, but I'm not sure you're doing much more than oversimplifying and twisting details around.
"In Cincinnati its no different. Its either Clearchannel or Infinity. Although we do get WOXY [woxy.com] which is independantly owned and operated and quite good."
I thought WKRP was privately owned.
"wow! this guy's pretty darn wild! I bet for a big night out he turns on the TV and drinks a whole light beer. I mean, c'mon - with all the possibilities for nanotechnology, having self-polishing shoes is the best he could come up with? "
Ugh. Did you even read the F'n A? It's really frustrating when somebody takes the time to understand the capabilities of something they understand only to have the listener get all disappointed because he didn't invent a replicator or something.
The whole point of what he was saying was that nature has solved a LOT of problems we have today, and on the nano-level we can understand what it's doing and incorporate reserach that nature has already done into modern society. His example wasn't cool because it could make the dir resistant shoes, it was cool because it meant that they could emulate nature. The result is future materials would be longer lasting. Dare I say: mold-proof houses?
I'd normally concede that they could have presented their case better, but in this example they described the bits of it that were interesting enough that the application was merely an example.
"it looks that just as with other technologies (www, e-commerce, ...) we're gonna have to wait for the pron industry to break new ground and lead the way ... oh, the possiblities!!! Wait a minute, don't. Eughh!"
Dude, don't ever leave yourself open like that again. Anybody else here resist the urge to poke fun at a guy who suggested the porn industry use nanomachines to provide a service he might want?
"Real gamers would buy a gamecube to supplement their PC for gaming, not choose the half-assed in-between console."
Half assed? Graphically, the XBOX is not showing any signs of inferiority to the GameCube. Microsoft is not confusing the XBOX for a PC by selling/publishing anything but games for it. As a game machine, it is anything but half-assed. (Maintenance could prove to be an issue, but in the year it's been out that doesn't appear to be a problem.)
What's funny is I'm not an XBOX fan. I love my GameCube, I'm a self-described Nintendo zealot. Even with that, I would not describe the XBOX as a machine that can't decide between being a PC or a game machine.
"A Small Office/Home Office satelite would do something the big commercial, governmental and scientific satelites couldn't! Amazing!"
You gotta see how fast their people are though. Look at this guy:
http://www.ufomag.co.uk/VidFast.jpg
Now tell me he doesn't look high speed! No wonder they're getting more results than a bunch of beaurocrats!
I hope you all realize that modding an XBox so you can do PVR stuff is going to be twisted into piracy by places like the MPAA.
I'm not trolling here, or telling you you're doing something wrong, I'm just warning you to brace for irrational attacks on it. It's the type of thing that'll keep the DMCA around.
"Every XBox you buy is helping Microsoft partially recover their losses incurred by manufacturing and development. Did it not occur to you that you are paying Microsoft money for the privilege of using an XBox? Or do you just shoplift them from Best Buy?"
Did it occur to you that some of us want to play games instead of pretending that we're "beatin down the man!"?
"Thanks, you Americans are so sensitive. The whole world has to mourn for your disasters, but when people get killed in other countries it's just an opportunuity to make dumb jokes."
Oops. I feel like a shithead.
I clicked the 'parent' link on your post and realized it wasn't my post you were referring to.
I apologize, the mistake is mine. I just got upset at the thought that people thought I was making light of a situation like that.
Sorry for the heated words, man.
Oh, one more thing.
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I asked about the people that died after I made that post. I didn't even know if people were dead or not. So thanks for putting the worst possible spin on my obviously light-hearted comment. Couldn't be civil and ask me to clarify, could you?