not unwary time travellers - just those looking for a paying job.
i'll give them a hint - invest a bit in long term bonds before travelling, folks. beats working for a living.
I've heard the question "You mean that will work here, too?" so many times that I am laughing at your comments, and those who found you insightful.
Not meaning to be an ass, but how did they come to have that frame of mind? this consistency that you deride, was it the norm in computing two decades ago? how about 25 years ago? computer system understanding changes over time. one of the things that designers have learned over the years is that a consistent interface reduces the time it takes people to learn how to use a system. another is that if people learn a bad interface first, they don't get a proper model in their head of how the system works and then they have a hard time learning a good interface.
and since your'e AC, mom, go and re-read "A Guide to Usability" by Jenny Preece. the paperback isn't even 150 pages, and it has funny cartoons. </snarky>
some stupid web site might encode private data using a GET request
such as this website? tho there have been a few changes in the login process recentlike.
just making a nuisance for the guy examining the logs
how exactly? grep will just pass it right over. and if s/he is examining the logs manually, they will laugh every once in a while, and if you're reading web server logs personally, i think you need to laugh more than you need to get the referrer data.
yes, you're using their code. through the API they tell you about. my point still stands, and i'm open to having it struck down through reason and evidence, or having my ancestry questioned.
uh, no, not typical linux FUD. i was hinkey to this concept in 2000, well before i had been exposed to linux. it's just a warranted and general distrust of microsoft. i can't remember who said it here first, but i'll repeat it: "The main problem Microsoft has in defending itself is that it is demonstrably guilty." (i'm sure the original poster will pipe in with a link!)
because they have API's that work better than their documented COM interfaces. they do not tell you how to use them. if your app has to access data in 'Office' documents on a regular basis, your app will not perform as well as theirs. what, that's just my imagination and a tin foil hat? look at other's experiences with SMB. then ask MS if you can look at the source code to prove to me that it's an equal playing field.
as for gettin a patch to "all machines, like my customers'", well, you could contribute that patch to the kernel in your spare time, and let your customers figure it out themselves. you are working on an application, not the OS, right, so it's not your job to fix the OS?
Counter theory:
Governments the world over(though not all) are in the habit of NOT going after people who owe less than it costs to collect. Think about it - how long would it take how may government clerks to prepare the case to be looked at by government lawyers? Then, how long would the lawyers have to spend proving the case before a judge? $%000 doesn't buy a lot of time... And if it turns out they are wrong, the government has just spent a lot of money for nothing. I am given to understand that Roger's despo^W administration put an end to wasteage. With no financial incentive to after him, the next most likely scenario is that they targeted Simpson for political reasons.
Do I still need a tin foil hat? Feel free to correct logic flaws or add details if you've got them. The more facts we have to yell at each other, the funnier this will be (apologies to teela brown).
Yes. Virus is a collective noun, like 'air'. You would not say 'an air', except in the case of a rock star getting too big for their britches. You also wouldn't say 'the airs' if you wanted to be taken seriously, though it might make for a good rock band name.
it's clear i would lose any DSW on this one, but for completeness... "Apple Extended Keyboard II"
1990
the SIIG keyboard i got just for quake broke in about three months. but the apple keyboard just keeps on going.
close second: SuperMac monitor, 1992
They want it to just work, out of the box, without spending hours reading TFMs
there's no way to be kind about this: windows sucks the bone just as much as linux does in that regard.
(disclaimer in case someone cares: i use a dual boot MacOS/debian setup at home) for the past year at school, i have been cursing windows (NT) at first daily, then only wekly as i kept on asking my fellow students why i couldn't (for example) enter a tab as the first character into a word document, or did they really think five point type would render legibly in the alleged help boxes? why do the help boxes usually not help, except to provid definitions for trivial commonly used terms? eventually i gave up asking why, because no one knew, and just started memorizing workarounds. in september, they switched to xppro, and i'm about ready to pick up a clue-by-four. piece of shit, in my arrogant opinion. why sould prining a text document be difficult, and more importantly, why should RESOLVING a printing problem be difficult?
if linux were as 'easy' as windows, i'd have a single boot machine at home. i managed to get debian installed without a cd (network install, command line mode), and it's sure as hell not because i'm a geek. the documentation was complete (there were hours of rtm!), and every problem i had doing the install was a result of not reading the documentation fully. i don't need to understand how the kernel works, i just need to be able to read and follow directions. since then i've done GUI installs of linux from CD, and, well, nope, don't need to understand the internals.
i don't see this big problem you suggest., but i like your closing suggestion. the debian installer would be a lot slicker if it emphasized _why_ it forced you to make a normal user account during the install, and installed enough packages by default that su -c "apt-get -s install yada yada yada" wouldn't be needed for long enough to allow the user to become familiar with the tools. late night ramblings. tyfyp
whoah, dude. you missed it. i will not, for one moment, pretend that i'm interested in their shit when i'm not (except maybe in the context of delivering a joke to a friend) because It would encourage them and i will not undertake any action that encourages them, even temporarily.
in the spirit of nitpicking, who said 'unemployed'?
free beer: someone went out of their way to join the army, only to be flown to some other country and shot at by very poor people so you can keep buying gas and heating oil so cheap that you have money left over to buy beer for yourself and, if you so wish, others.
free speech: we still let the proles say what they like (as long as it's not about us) and we still let them vote ( _when_ can we change that?), but it's not as if we actually listen to them or count the ballots.
this contrary view brought to you by the number e.
well, no evil intenions , perhaps, but the end result was less than spectacular for me. i'm blocked out of YM since wednesday, and i had _NO_ , repeat, _NO_ , warnings about what was going to happen. i use^Hused YM daily. i thought i was going nuts like maybe the gateway was geborken?ed or something because it kept on telling me that it was a password problem, but i could log into yahoo and read my email.
i'm still using OS 8.1, so i'm stuck with YM version 2, until either (a) you buy me a copy of OSX, (b) some clever monkey at yahoo ports YM to linuxPPC, (c) i find an x86 in the trash that is better than my horking custom PPC, or (d) a lottery. way to go, yahoo.
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happy dreams are an option.
let's get this straight:
you tried to stop an inanimate object from being irritating. your wife responded to your efforts by yelling at you. i think you're fine, and your wife needs therapy for stockholm syndrome or something. in all fairness, there are easier ways to silence talking dolls, i would have held it by the neck underwater for ten minutes, vigorously shaking it from time to time, asking the kids to wipe my brow for me because i'm afraid to let go just yet.
The court noted that allowing use of such radio transmitters would mean that 'individuals must more readily assume that they are the objects of government scrutiny' noting that commentators 'have observed that freedom may be impaired as much, if not more so, by the threat of scrutiny as by the fact of scrutiny.'
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i wonder which hard drive company this moderator works for?
either that or maybe someone got a bit too much coke for christmas.
not unwary time travellers - just those looking for a paying job.
i'll give them a hint - invest a bit in long term bonds before travelling, folks. beats working for a living.
and since your'e AC, mom, go and re-read "A Guide to Usability" by Jenny Preece. the paperback isn't even 150 pages, and it has funny cartoons. </snarky>
now ask why you posted _relatively_the_same_ instead of _exactly_the_same_
yes, you're using their code. through the API they tell you about. my point still stands, and i'm open to having it struck down through reason and evidence, or having my ancestry questioned.
uh, no, not typical linux FUD. i was hinkey to this concept in 2000, well before i had been exposed to linux. it's just a warranted and general distrust of microsoft. i can't remember who said it here first, but i'll repeat it: "The main problem Microsoft has in defending itself is that it is demonstrably guilty." (i'm sure the original poster will pipe in with a link!)
because they have API's that work better than their documented COM interfaces. they do not tell you how to use them. if your app has to access data in 'Office' documents on a regular basis, your app will not perform as well as theirs. what, that's just my imagination and a tin foil hat? look at other's experiences with SMB. then ask MS if you can look at the source code to prove to me that it's an equal playing field.
as for gettin a patch to "all machines, like my customers'", well, you could contribute that patch to the kernel in your spare time, and let your customers figure it out themselves. you are working on an application, not the OS, right, so it's not your job to fix the OS?
Anyone (with or without an axe to grind) unfortunate enough to have to use MS software actually does.
Counter theory:
Governments the world over(though not all) are in the habit of NOT going after people who owe less than it costs to collect. Think about it - how long would it take how may government clerks to prepare the case to be looked at by government lawyers? Then, how long would the lawyers have to spend proving the case before a judge? $%000 doesn't buy a lot of time... And if it turns out they are wrong, the government has just spent a lot of money for nothing. I am given to understand that Roger's despo^W administration put an end to wasteage. With no financial incentive to after him, the next most likely scenario is that they targeted Simpson for political reasons.
Do I still need a tin foil hat? Feel free to correct logic flaws or add details if you've got them. The more facts we have to yell at each other, the funnier this will be (apologies to teela brown).
Yes. Virus is a collective noun, like 'air'. You would not say 'an air', except in the case of a rock star getting too big for their britches. You also wouldn't say 'the airs' if you wanted to be taken seriously, though it might make for a good rock band name.
Try removing the space after the ellipsis?
/http ducks, and backs away giggling.
it's clear i would lose any DSW on this one, but for completeness...
"Apple Extended Keyboard II"
1990
the SIIG keyboard i got just for quake broke in about three months. but the apple keyboard just keeps on going.
close second: SuperMac monitor, 1992
They want it to just work, out of the box, without spending hours reading TFMs
there's no way to be kind about this: windows sucks the bone just as much as linux does in that regard. (disclaimer in case someone cares: i use a dual boot MacOS/debian setup at home) for the past year at school, i have been cursing windows (NT) at first daily, then only wekly as i kept on asking my fellow students why i couldn't (for example) enter a tab as the first character into a word document, or did they really think five point type would render legibly in the alleged help boxes? why do the help boxes usually not help, except to provid definitions for trivial commonly used terms? eventually i gave up asking why, because no one knew, and just started memorizing workarounds.
in september, they switched to xppro, and i'm about ready to pick up a clue-by-four. piece of shit, in my arrogant opinion. why sould prining a text document be difficult, and more importantly, why should RESOLVING a printing problem be difficult?
if linux were as 'easy' as windows, i'd have a single boot machine at home. i managed to get debian installed without a cd (network install, command line mode), and it's sure as hell not because i'm a geek. the documentation was complete (there were hours of rtm!), and every problem i had doing the install was a result of not reading the documentation fully. i don't need to understand how the kernel works, i just need to be able to read and follow directions. since then i've done GUI installs of linux from CD, and, well, nope, don't need to understand the internals.
i don't see this big problem you suggest., but i like your closing suggestion. the debian installer would be a lot slicker if it emphasized _why_ it forced you to make a normal user account during the install, and installed enough packages by default that su -c "apt-get -s install yada yada yada" wouldn't be needed for long enough to allow the user to become familiar with the tools.
late night ramblings. tyfyp
whoah, dude. you missed it. i will not, for one moment, pretend that i'm interested in their shit when i'm not (except maybe in the context of delivering a joke to a friend) because It would encourage them and i will not undertake any action that encourages them, even temporarily.
Or, you could do it the easy way.
sorry, it's a dupe. :)
c'mon, michael
in the spirit of nitpicking, who said 'unemployed'?
free beer: someone went out of their way to join the army, only to be flown to some other country and shot at by very poor people so you can keep buying gas and heating oil so cheap that you have money left over to buy beer for yourself and, if you so wish, others.
free speech: we still let the proles say what they like (as long as it's not about us) and we still let them vote ( _when_ can we change that?), but it's not as if we actually listen to them or count the ballots.
this contrary view brought to you by the number e.
well, no evil intenions , perhaps, but the end result was less than spectacular for me. i'm blocked out of YM since wednesday, and i had _NO_ , repeat, _NO_ , warnings about what was going to happen. i use^Hused YM daily. i thought i was going nuts like maybe the gateway was geborken?ed or something because it kept on telling me that it was a password problem, but i could log into yahoo and read my email.
i'm still using OS 8.1, so i'm stuck with YM version 2, until either (a) you buy me a copy of OSX, (b) some clever monkey at yahoo ports YM to linuxPPC, (c) i find an x86 in the trash that is better than my horking custom PPC, or (d) a lottery. way to go, yahoo.
--
happy dreams are an option.
omg its too late. i read that (twice) as "...explain that people with new hard drives need to be formatted."
sleep should arrive any moment now...
or, its called adding apt-get update and apt-get upgrade to /etc/cron.daily.
let's get this straight:
you tried to stop an inanimate object from being irritating.
your wife responded to your efforts by yelling at you.
i think you're fine, and your wife needs therapy for stockholm syndrome or something. in all fairness, there are easier ways to silence talking dolls, i would have held it by the neck underwater for ten minutes, vigorously shaking it from time to time, asking the kids to wipe my brow for me because i'm afraid to let go just yet.
sorry, possible confusion. in case your time zone differs, BigDumbAnimal's posting time was 10:13AM on Fri 12 September on my clock.